The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 1 - What are the 49ers limitations?

Episode Date: December 16, 2022

Thoughts on the Niners winning with 3rd string QB Brock Purdy The Lakers would be making a major mistake sticking with Russell Westbrook Why the NFL seems obsessed with protecting QBs   Guest: Eric M...anginiSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 our Blazing Five Weird Week, a lot of big favorites, popular teams, Bill's a big favorite. Cowboys are a favorite on the road. Jay Mack is joining us. So here's things we do know. The NFC is weaker than the AFC, and it does look like physically, through our television set, Philadelphia and the Niners are easily the two best rosters in the NFC. Can we agree on that?
Starting point is 00:02:44 Collision course in the NFC championship. Colin, I hope the audience yesterday, we talked, we love the Niners. All the perceived sharps were all over Seattle. You got to bet Seattle at home. Not us. Yeah, well, not at all. So we know the Niners are good. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:02 So the whole Brock Purdy experiment. And you look at his numbers last night and you, you know, I watched the game and you watch the game. And, you know, he was 17 to 26, 217 yards, a couple of TDs, no interceptions. But it's interesting now. Let's be critical thinkers now. How long will Brock Purdy's run less? We know they're really good. We know they in Philadelphia look like the two teams in the N.
Starting point is 00:03:27 F. Dallas is back. Now they say once a defensive coordinator gets four games of film on you, they see the holes, they see the weaknesses. So that's coming up. Here's what I see. And this is sort of what they are. Their three best offensive players are Kittle, Debo and McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And they all get banged up. Debo is currently banged up. So here's the hole I see for the Niners. Now because they have Brock Purdy, who's going to, they're going to die. in on two or three things he trusts. They're becoming very Christian McCaffrey reliant. He had 26 carries last night. At this point in his career, he shouldn't be carrying the ball 26 times. And George Kittle was the number one ride receiver. So now because Debo's out, they're going heavy on McCaffrey and heavy on Kittle, who I love and you love and the world loves.
Starting point is 00:04:20 But these guys can't be heavy usage guys in the regular season. And because Debo is out and Purdy is a young kid. So Gino last night had five different guys with four more catches. 13 of the 17 completions for Brock Purdy went to three guys, one of them, McCaffrey. So they're becoming incredibly reliant on Christian and Kittle because of Debo's injuries. Also, the commanders are coming up, a very physical football team. They're going to know take Kittle out. You know, Ron Rivera in that defense, really smart cats, people are going to start taking things away from Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:04:57 So it is interesting. What we love about them is their physicality. But now with Debo out, they're going heavy McCaffrey and heavy kiddle. It's not a criticism. It's their reality. And Brock Purdy is a young quarterback. Right. Gino's been in this league long enough.
Starting point is 00:05:11 He sees the overall field probably a little better. He mixes it up. He becomes a little less reliant on one or two players. But that said, it's a small criticism it feels like because this looks like the Ray Lewis Ravens defense. I mean, they're playing 1980s football. Seattle looked like they were getting pushed around for mostly three and a half hours. Seattle's offensive line is pretty good.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Could not block Bosa. Could not block the Niners. Bowling ball coming down an alley. Get out of the way. It feels a little bit like that Tony Dungee Tampa team. It feels like the Ravens. But the difference is with this Niners team is, whereas the Chicago Bears of 1985 offense was pretty simplistic.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And the Dillfer Super Bowl, Ray Lewis champion offense didn't have dynamic players. They're going to get Dibo back. Between Debo and Jennings and Kiddell and McCaffrey, it's the perfect balance of this tough, intimidating, physical, unblockable defense and this super smart and clever and finessey offense. I mean, that double fake screen to George Kittles. I guarantee their coaches all over college and pro football stealing that thing. Got their notepad out watching that game. So it's a really interesting combination.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Usually the physical teams, the Ravens with Ray Lewis, the Bears in 85, kind of a simplistic offense. They play not to lose. These guys got a lot of skill. I do worry that they're becoming very McCaffrey Kittle reliant with a young quarterback and Debo out. Kittle talked about it after the game. Whenever Chris McCaffrey touches a football, like I think it's going to be a touchdown. You know, he ran his tail off tonight.
Starting point is 00:07:01 He was violent. He was physical. He got downhill, made guys miss. And then for him to get a touchdown too, it's awesome. But definitely, you know, we were in a groove. When Jimmy got hurt, we said, our best players need to step up and make bigger plays. Debo gets hurt. Hey, our best players need to step up even more and make bigger plays.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing. And that's we're going to continue to try to do. So cross your fingers on the health of McCaffrey and George Kittle. Two players I absolutely love. I love Debo Samuel. but this style of football, they literally punish you on offense like most defenses do. They're as physical on the offensive side as the defensive side.
Starting point is 00:07:36 The games for the Niners just look different. Outside of that second half against Kansas City, teams feel like they're waving the flag by the end of the game. Let's just get into a hot tub. Let's get into the ice tub. Let's get into some tub. We're worn out. So I saw this story.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I live in Los Angeles. I like when my local teams win because even though I try to be objective, everybody's happier. It's fun to go to a sports bar and it's all Dodger fans or USC fans. It's fun. According to Yovon Buha of the Athletic, the Lakers have been considering different trade options. One of the most attractive is moving Westbrook in that $47 million salary. We've talked about this ad nauseum. But according to Sam Amick, a guy who I have on the show and trust, too, it is unlikely now the Lakers are pulling back on trading Westbrook because his recent level of play, do the Lakers not have an analytics department?
Starting point is 00:08:44 He's shooting, by the way, his elevated level of play, he's shooting 41% from the floor. That's not good for a guard. And 31% from three. That's terrible for a guard. because he's not toxic, they don't want to make the move. Listen, man, your game is your game. It's why I predicted Westbrook and Cam Newton would age quickly and age poorly. Hyper athleticism in an era of analytics and efficiency and accuracy changes everything.
Starting point is 00:09:16 In the 70s, 80s, 90s, early 2000, you're a quarterback with a big arm. Woo! Got to complete 62, 63% minimum. The game has changed. The NBA, I grew up and I love the NBA. I'm like Rain Man on 70s NBA. I collected basketball cards, not baseball cards. I had some baseball cards, but I collected basketball, NBA cards.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And I had so many guys like World Be Free and all these crazy wild players. I loved them. Analytically, they were awful. But in that era, they were great. But analytics are the enemy of Westbrook. Just go to your analytics department, Lakers. The Lakers have been outscored by 71 points when Westbrook is on the floor. They've outscored their opponents by 28 when he's on the bench.
Starting point is 00:10:12 So like analytics are the home inspector of real estate. You ever walk into a house? Ooh, honey, look at the furnishings. Man, that kitchen, they put some money into that. I love the backyard. How do you come upstairs? You got to see the kids' room. And then the home inspector comes and he takes a flashlight and he goes underneath the house and he goes up on the roof.
Starting point is 00:10:42 And he goes in and looks at the electrical and the plumbing. That's what analytics are to basketball. And he comes back and he said, oh, yeah, you got you need new air conditioning unit. We needed one of those. You got some rot. You got if you took a home inspector to Russell Westbrook's game, you'd find a lot of leaks and faulty wiring and you'd have foundational problems. If the Lakers are pulling back on moving him because his recent play,
Starting point is 00:11:15 they're still awful when he's on the floor and better when he's not. That's why the Warriors, I see this all the time in sports. It's why the Dodgers keep winning their division. It's why the Warriors keep winning titles. Some of these teams in these sports just are not paying attention. I had a conversation about 10 days ago with a recently retired NBA scout, who I leaned on for years, really smart guy. And I asked him about the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And he said, there's just too many family members running the show. He's like it's an eye roll with some of their moves. Like some of their guys just can't play at all. And everybody in the league knows it except the Lakers. But I mean, folks, just go to analytics. they're the home inspector of real estate. They're the truth serum. All jumping and leaping and hustle and what do the numbers say?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Are you good when you're on the floor? Are you good when you're off the floor? When's the team better? Westbrook's a nice guy. Can't shoot, doesn't defend, and just isn't necessarily great with LeBron James. Remember Alex Caruso for the Lakers? Still can't figure out why they let him go.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I mean, most people. I mean, I know what they were trying to do. But in the end, Alex Caruso always felt like when he was on the floor with LeBron, LeBron liked him. Now there's a report they want to bring Kyle Kuzma bat. Why'd you let him go? I mean, this story is like, you want to know how far the Lakers are behind the Warriors? Just forget the players.
Starting point is 00:12:49 But just analytics, brain power. I mean, this is, I just don't get it. All right. People going crazy last night. Fans just hate these roughing the passer penalties. Oh, my God. Plus blazing 5.45 minutes from now. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio,
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Starting point is 00:15:53 The NFL is a television show. The league, just like the NBA and baseball, but especially the NBA and the NFL, make far more money off the television dollars than they do butts in seats. Didn't used to be that way in the 60s and 70s. It is today. The home viewer is worth more than the in-stadium viewer because TV networks can take that home viewer. And when you accumulate all those home viewers, higher incomes, sell them to advert. advertisers that the economy is good. I mean, the NFL is making billions at five different networks or four different networks.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Now they're making it with Amazon. Only 13 quarterbacks have started every game. A third of the league. The quality of football, we also know, deteriorates rapidly when you go to backups. Kyler Murray to Colt McCoy. I think we've all seen enough of Drew Locke for one lifetime. It's a TV show. I know the Nick Bosa, roughing the passer penalty drives you crazy, but think about insurance.
Starting point is 00:17:01 All of you have paid insurance. I've been paying insurance. I'm in my mid-50s, late 50s now. I've been paying it for 40 years. I've used it twice. But it protects me. That's why I pay for it. And I almost never use it.
Starting point is 00:17:17 But I get why we have it. It's the same reason sometimes I over-parent. My kids want to do this. My kids want to do that. Dad, you're so strict. It's to protect you. When you're 25 years old, 23 years old, out of the house, you do what you want. But I'm not let you jumping out of a helicopter yet.
Starting point is 00:17:36 This is all about protecting the quality of football. They're going to overparent. Yeah, this is what you do. We know in this league, the Holmes and Josh Allen play, you literally think about it on Tuesday for a Sunday game. Oh, my God, I can't wait. if Josh Johnson would have played against Gino Smith last night, I do this for a living, and it would have been work to get me to a TV. Even Brock Purdy, a backup, made it watchable.
Starting point is 00:18:05 So the league is doing this for a reason, and Nick Bosa talked about it after. I landed on him. I just kind of, I don't know, I thought he still had the ball. So I was kind of thinking about, well, I was going to the ground, whether you had the ball or not, and I forgot. to roll off. I'm usually better at doing that. So it was a good call, I guess. For the record, I like Micah Parsons. That is your MVP.
Starting point is 00:18:37 That guy is unblockable. And his brother is pretty good, too, and the dad was pretty good. But Nick Bosa and that defense, listen, quarterbacks are getting smaller. Quarterbacks are running more. This is a television show. You got to protect. him. You got to overparent. I get it. And it drives me nuts too. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Protecting Gino Smith. I like that.
Starting point is 00:19:06 You want to protect that franchise quarterback. You got, you got to protect Jim. Hey, but Gino, big, strong, complete passes keeps the game moving. I mean, say what I mean, I'm not a huge Gino Smith man, but I mean, if you go look at his numbers last night, he's an adult. Had a dropped interception. That should have been a pick six. Awful flag. Anyways, all right, Colin. The big NFL story here breaking in the last hour.
Starting point is 00:19:28 As I was driving to work here, my phone just starts blowing up. Mike White will not be able to play. Heartburn this weekend for the New York Jets. The immortal Mike White, who has been a tremendous story the last few weeks, not cleared for contact by doctors, unable to go to a rib injury. Now, they're not saying much more, Colin. He was at practice all week. but he's not cleared for contact.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I don't know what happened inside Mike White's body. Clearly the Jets aren't going to say, and that's fine. But you know what that means. If he started QB, QB1 for the Jets on Sunday against the Lions, and a must win if they want to get in the playoffs is Zach Wilson. So let me be glass half full comment. Oh, I love this, Colin. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:13 You did draft him two. You've got to figure out if he's the guy. It's the game of the season. airs real pressure and he has been humbled. This is a great moment for you. Your chances of winning may be better with Mike White, but this is the biggest Jets game in about four years. You've got to beat Detroit at home.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And you know what? It's real pressure. And the papers and the media and the talk shows in New York are all over it. Okay, kid. Okay, cool, good-looking kid. Your ball. Win the game. Because we know the defense is good enough.
Starting point is 00:20:47 We know the corner's good enough. We know the young receivers are good enough. The only question with that team is, Zach, are you good enough? So let's not give him any layups. He is now rushed into starting duty. Young Mahomes would have won it. Young Burrell would have won it.
Starting point is 00:21:02 This is why this is the moment. I don't want him to get a lap. I want him to be told on Thursday or Friday morning. Dude, you got to play. What? Yeah, you win. Sunday, go. Weather's bad.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Gotta win. Huge pressure in New York. This is why you drafted himself. And by this point, in year two, if he can't take that football and beat the Lions defense at home, you got the wrong guy and draft another quarterback. So there's a lot to say on this. I'm surprised you don't want to dedicate the open of the show to it. But Colin, think about this. If the Jets psychologically have to be wondering, my gosh, we bench this guy.
Starting point is 00:21:39 But we didn't bench him. We made him inactive for three weeks. He's been on the bench with a hoodie on during games. I know. Bouncing back from that immediately? Well, you know what? Baker Mayfield got a phone call. Fly to L.A.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Play. I don't know the play, but I play. That's why you get paid the big box. Zach Wilson wishes he could face the Raiders defense this week. They're okay. They're not great. Aiden Hutchinson's going to be one of the rookie league candidates. It's a lot of nonsense on the back end.
Starting point is 00:22:14 If I'm talking to Zach Wilson, he's watching right now, Zach. Forget about being drafted number two. Forget about big picture redemption. Forget that crap. Detroit Lions. That's it. Focus on this week.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I don't care what happens. Win this game. I don't care if you're nine for 20. I've never worked with anybody in my life who cares more deeply about a team. I find it so charming. You love this team. It drives you crazy when they lose. I love my family.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I love my podcast. The Jets are up there. They're like, they're my team. I root for them. This is a winnable game for Zach Wilson. Oh, of course it is. Focus on the other stuff. And by the way, no floaters into the middle of the field.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Tuck and run, you know, seriously. By the way, Joe Flacco, they just announced his number two. So Mike White not even active this week. All right. We got through that. Next up, Justin Fields. He could join some elite company Sunday. He's only 95 rushing yards away from being,
Starting point is 00:23:10 hitting the 1,000 yard mark this season. We've become the third quarterback to hit 1,000 in NFL history. to Vic and Lamar. Off a bye week, bears are healthy. Are we going to see this in the Blazum 5? Yes, we are. Okay, all right. I think the bears are, when you get these young teams and you give them some extra time,
Starting point is 00:23:29 there's a lot of interesting bets I have this week. Many of them teams coming off a buy late in the year, teams get bait up, they're all a little healthier. I haven't seen the data on that to back it up, but I am curious. Next week, Eagles Cowboys. I just saw the show before us talking about next week's game. I know. Like a full segment dedicated.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Can you imagine cowboy fans have the audacity to think ahead to anybody after Houston? Cowboy fans, look at Philadelphia. Have you watched the Jags in the last month? That offense is tearing it up. I was going to put that in the Blazing Five. And I started looking at all the stuff. There's some wonky stuff happening with the Dallas defense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:06 By smart people said, no, no, no, no, don't. Stay away from it. If you're a cowboy fan, stay away from that game. So Justin Fields. I can't wait to watch that game. You think he can beat the Eagles or you could just have some success in backdoor cover? I don't think they're going to beat the Eagles. The line's nine.
Starting point is 00:24:21 That is a big number on the road. Especially when the Cowboys are next week and you're off a blowout win. So even if you're up 3420 fourth quarter fields against the preventee goes down the field gets a touchdown and you get the backdoor cover. Nine's a lot of points in this league. It's a lot. Final story. Dolphins headed to Buffalo to take on the bills. This is a monster game Saturday night, Colin.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Last Sunday, obviously they got some flack for bringing heaters to Los Angeles. like the soft Floridians they are, but tomorrow night in Buffalo, it's expected to be in the maybe 20s. They're saying this could be the coldest football game of the year. I saw that stat this one. I cannot wait. Yeah. I cannot wait to watch this game. Chance of snow in Buffalo. Mike McDaniel, obviously having fun at practice, he was seen wearing a shirt that said, I wish it were colder. He's dancing around. Look at him. He's struck. Well, we don't have the video, but he's strutting around. McDaniel's really trying to instill confidence in this team. You know they have to be Have you ever not bet a game because you just want to enjoy it?
Starting point is 00:25:18 No. I enjoy money. I'm winning. So this one, I am so interested in the storylines because Buffalo now is starting to run the football, starting to get a little healthier. Are we going to get back to like early season September Buffalo? Because they had a stretch, so did San Francisco in October November, where the Niners and the bills were falling apart.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And now they're getting a little healthier in key spots. You go to the injury report. You know, Buffalo could be back to September Buffalo. Buffalo just saw a great defense last week. Couldn't they play? Oh, the Jets, that's right. And now they stepped down to face the Miami Dolphins who really got shredded by Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Listen, I know there's some concern about Josh Allen's elbow. He had struggled. I just want to bring up two quick games at night in Buffalo. The Tennessee Monday night bloodbath earlier this season, I think it was 45-7 or something like that, and the Patriots playoff game in Buffalo at night last year. This place is going to be crazy Saturday night in Buffalo. You know the fans are going to be lubricated.
Starting point is 00:26:15 All Saturday drinking, partying in the parking lot. This could be a beatdown for the ages. And I know I'm going overboard. I love Buffalo in this spot, Colin. Love them. This is like a car payment on the Buffalo bills here. Now, if you don't go do that at home, I will, obviously. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:32 J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. So a lot of people, I was reading an article this morning, and you know I like Derek Carr. I think he's a top 12 quarterback in the league. Some don't, I do.
Starting point is 00:26:46 He may be closer to 12 than 1, but I like him. He's an adult. He's durable. He's accurate. So people are saying Derek Carr's future with the Raiders could hinge on the final four games. So I've always believed, you know, the media critics like who they like and everybody's got an agenda. If you want to know how talented you are or talented anybody is, who wants to hire you on an open market. If Ryan Day of Ohio State was on the open market, he would not get an NFL head coaching offer.
Starting point is 00:27:18 He would get some college offers, but he's now getting pushed around by Michigan. If Jim Harbaugh was on the open market, he'd get offered seven NFL jobs and virtually any college job that was open. If Sabin retired tomorrow, Harbaugh called Alabama, he'd get the job. Ryan Day would not. So you want to go back and forth on who's the better coach. how good you are is not defined by what fans say or the critics say it's defined by you're on the open market who's interested okay Derek Carr is going to have a market for all of the critics of Derek car the giants are going to kick those tires on that car the Colts are going to kick the tires
Starting point is 00:27:59 Washington's going to saints are going to jets are going to Tampa will if Brady retires Carolina will that's seven teams Brady had two offers when he left New England Chargers bucks. And the other thing that helps Derek Carr is Jimmy Garoppolo's injury, he has no market. Carson Wentz no longer has a market. Baker Mayfield is viewed as a bridge quarterback. So are the Raiders going to move off Derek Carr? My hunch would be no.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's a total guess I have no insight. But if you do look at their final four games of the season, it's very interesting. they play New England this week. That's a go either way game. Then they go to the Steelers. At home, I love it, but Pittsburgh, at Pittsburgh, never know. Then it's Niners and Chiefs. So right now, they have the eighth pick in the NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:28:56 But after that schedule, let's say they lose the New England Steelers and they sit there at Carr. So let's look at the teams above them. This is where they are right now, and I think they're going to lose at least two of their final four games. Texans take a quarterback. Seahawks take a quarterback. Bears won't. I do not think the lion should take a quarterback. They have major issues through the interior of that defense, and I think the defensive tackle for Georgia is going to fall to the lion's lap and they should draft him. Eagles won't take a quarterback. I don't think Arizona will. The Colts will. So, Panthers will. So those teams may have to move up. But the
Starting point is 00:29:39 The Raiders may not have to move up to get it because Niners is a loss. Chiefs would be a loss. At Pittsburgh's go either way. Now, I tend to think they'll beat New England this weekend. But if they don't, you could find the Raiders at that number five spot. And then the decision on Derek Carr gets very, very interesting because there's no big dead cap hit if he leaves. And you could trade him. He's got an absolutely robust market and get.
Starting point is 00:30:09 At least get a first and a second. I think I would give up a first and a second for Derek Carr and a heartbeat. This whole league's quarterbacks now. So the Raiders are in an interesting position where they've got really key pieces. They have their left tackle for the future, star running back, star receiver, tight end slot receiver, pass rusher. They've got some real pieces here. Some really nice pieces.
Starting point is 00:30:28 So it's an interesting time for the Raiders. I would stay with Derek Carr and fix the defense. But if they lose three of the next four, you know, and knowing the Raiders, they'll be close losses because it feels like every game they're in is close. Suddenly they're at the fifth pick, and I think the Lions would be out of their mind to draft a quarterback. If you're watching the Lions and you think quarterbacks are issue, you're not watching the games.
Starting point is 00:30:53 So, Colin, if you look at Josh McDaniels history, he has coached two quarterbacks who are going to be on the market. Tom Brady, Jimmy Garoppolo, both will be eligible. Do you think Josh McDaniels wants a quarterback at five, or one of those two veterans to go to a team that, by the way, made the playoffs last year. And I'll just quickly add, Patrick Mahomes sat out for a year before becoming awesome. Josh Allen was nothing special for like two years. You think he's going to draft a quarterback or take someone in free agency?
Starting point is 00:31:23 Well, the free agent market. Wence is no longer viable. Garopolo's injury. Josh McDaniels is not tying his career. This is his second chance. He didn't work in Denver. So Josh McDaniel's career now. if you and I had had a job, a great job in our careers, and we get fired the first time,
Starting point is 00:31:40 you get one more shot. Josh has to make this work. Derek Carr can win you a lot of games. So if I'm not going Derek Carr, Tom Brady. Sorry. Well, a lot of people think that's the case. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:31:58 So you trade Derek Carr and you get another first and a second. So you have two first, two seconds. You already got your skill people. You don't worry about that. Well, Josh Jacobs, they did not pick up his fifth year, so he will be a free agent. They're going to have to pay a lot for him if they want to keep him. Boy, I know. But boy, I like him a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Now, if you have a second pick, you can take Bijan Robinson and they're running back from Texas. There you go. Okay, so that's a possibility. He's a potential first round. Absolutely. He's very talented. No, he's super talented. So there's options here.
Starting point is 00:32:25 The offensive line's been a little bit of musical chairs there. Remember, they've whiffed on Leatherwood and a couple other guys have really struggled. It's all I know is, this is an interesting spot for the Raiders. Yeah, Brady's not going. there if he doesn't have a left tackle. I think the Colts are a well-run organization, but they're not good where they have to be good. The Raiders actually in the key spots, Max Crosby's a dog. Devante Adams is my favorite receiver in the league. I like Derek Carr. I think Colton Miller's a very nice left tackle. I don't know what PFF says, but they may trade Waller. There's a lot
Starting point is 00:32:55 of speculation. Waller's on his way out. Hunter Renfro is a top three slot in the league. By the way, he's expected to play this week. I don't know if you noticed that. Oh, I know. Eligible off I. Maybe him and Waller could play, and I think we've seen some line movement, only like two points, but still, I was a little surprised. Hunter Renfro's good. Third and Renfro, one of the best nicknames in the league. No, he's really good. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, what's up, everybody? It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVar Arrington, and I couldn't be
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Starting point is 00:37:02 Everybody likes France. Everyone. Not your boy. I'm on Argentina in this one. Messy for the cup. Argentina loves. They love their football. They love it.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I feel like they're going to have a home field advantage. Did you see the semifinal? It felt like all Argentina. So jacked up to talk to Eric Mangini, Fox Sports Analyst, joining us now live on the show. So Patriots Raiders, you face Belichek a few times. So Josh McDaniels gets to face, you know, his mentor. You think he's nervous?
Starting point is 00:37:34 Did you like to do it? I love those games. I thought those were the best games to prepare for because you have such intimate knowledge of what they're doing. And then they understand what you're going to do. So we would do things like use code words that guys would have robotic reactions to and instantly think that we're adjusting to something and make it something totally different. And it was like that every single time where you're adding layers to the game plan because you know what hurts. And you also understand that they know what hurts you.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I thought it was some of the best and most interesting coaching I got to do. So I finally spotted a little hole with Brock Purdy. And I don't think it's solvable. So the Niners three best offensive players, McCaffrey, Debo, and Kittle are all wildly physical and a bit injury prone because of the way they play. their offense hits like most teams' defenses do. They're very physical. So because Debo's out, I mean, McCaffrey had 26 carries last night. And because Purdy's young, they're going to give him a more restrained here.
Starting point is 00:38:42 We're going to give you two or three things to just do. So I thought to myself, this is a little bit of trouble. There's no way at this point in his career. I want McCaffrey with 30 touches in a football game. I mean, I love him. But I did see Eric. I saw that and I thought, that's a little hole right now.
Starting point is 00:38:58 They're becoming very reliant on a guy that gets banged up pretty easily. Your thoughts? It's dangerous because you know you have to support the young quarterback, but you know you're just waiting for the other shoe to drop in terms of injury. And how do you balance that out? Now, they've got a nice situation where they've won the division and don't have to worry about necessarily moving up spots as much. much so they could take some of that that pressure off but they've got to continue to protect the
Starting point is 00:39:32 young quarterback i think there's there's some other things that are going to be really interesting to see column is how well he responds to consistent pressure yeah and and look he tried to throw an interception last night and when you look back at at his college career he his touchdown interception ratio wasn't that staggering i mean there were nine eight nine ten interceptions per year. So he's got that in him. But look, he's done an amazing job better than anybody could have ever expected. But pressuring them and playing really tight coverage, if you can, is going to be interesting to see how he responds.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So I think the most fascinating game, it may not be the best. It could get ugly, but it's Tua against Josh Allen. So I've never been, I've said this, and I got pushed back a month ago. And I said, I know Tua can win at home in 78 degree weather. put them in the cold, put them in Cincinnati, put them in Cleveland, put them in Baltimore, put them in Buffalo, and it's raining or windy with that lack of arm strength. And that's what I want my franchise quarterback to be.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I can go on the road with Aaron Rogers' arm, and he can win anywhere, or Burrow, or, you know, all the guys, Herbert. And so I've always wondered about bad weather Tua and heavy pressure Tua. Well, I've seen him with heavy pressure the last two weeks, it's been Tebow bad and now comes pressure. Not just bad, Eric, but like three for 17 stuff. And I said it this week and I'll get pushback. But if he is unraveled in this,
Starting point is 00:41:10 that feels like to me that GM flies back and that coach and they start texting. And it's a Brian Flores situation like, guys, this isn't it. Am I hyperbolic on this? What do you think? No, I don't think so at all. the San Francisco game, you can understand because you're West Coast, tough defense. Okay, that's a one-off. When you go to the Chargers game, they're banged up.
Starting point is 00:41:35 They're playing a ton of young guys, and he performs the way he does. But when you read the comments, did you read the comments after the game? There's a Chargers linebacker talking about the fact that they were just going to flood the middle of the field because that's where the highest percentage of his throws go. And when you look at his heat map, it's absolutely true. That's where he's going with the ball. and that's what they were going to take away. They were going to see if he could beat them
Starting point is 00:41:59 throwing to the outside. So Tua talks about it and said, we knew exactly what they were doing, and the fact that he couldn't overcome it, knowing what they were doing, the fact that people are going to jam up the middle of the field and force him to throw outside, now factor in the arm strength
Starting point is 00:42:14 and the weather, if he's forced to throw outside, those are the toughest throws to make. There's a lot of things as he continues to play where the league identifies your weaknesses and you have to prove that you can overcome him. And he hasn't, you know, in this string. Yeah. So J-Mack lives and dies with the Jets.
Starting point is 00:42:37 And we talked about this 20- I know that. We've talked about it a million times. So I said this is perfect. I used to give quarterbacks three years. Now it's Thanksgiving by the second year. You had a lot more snaps in high school. You had seven-on-seven camps.
Starting point is 00:42:53 college throws like the NFL now. I'm not giving you three years. Thanksgiving year two, I got to see something. So here we are post- Thanksgiving year two, and it's perfect. He didn't know he was going to start. It's a home game against an average defense. This is perfect. If he goes out, I don't want to hear about pressure late starts.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I got to know if this kid has it in him. And this is perfect. He got benched. He got humbled. He hasn't gotten first team reps. I, and I've said if he comes out and it's a dog, I've made my decision. Again, do I sound too harsh? No, not at all.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Now, this is interesting, too, because Detroit can put up a ton of points. Yes. That's one problem. And their defense, even though it's an average defense, it's gotten a lot better over the last quarter-plus of the season. They've made a ton of strides defensively. If he goes out and it's a function of, okay, he just didn't lose the game for us. That's not going to be good enough. He's got to show that he can help win games.
Starting point is 00:44:03 And now you've got the Purdy effect. Purdy comes in and plays the way he does. And you're sitting on Zach Wilson and the equation changes to some degree. It changes for Trey Lance too. Changes for all these guys. Because you can't make the excuse that he hasn't been given every single advantage you can be given as a quarterback. Yeah. Detroit is as much fun as you can have for kind of an average team.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I love. You know what? And I was a doubter on Dan Campbell. But the one thing is Bill Parcells, who I love, one of the smartest guys in football, loves him. So it's like, well, Parcells knows more than I do, and he loves him. I'll tell you, when I watch Detroit play, they don't look poorly coached to me. They play so hard. And to your point, they get better.
Starting point is 00:44:51 This defense was a disaster in September. They got a pass rush now. And Dan Campbell is authentic. He is, who he is, and he's not trying to hide from that. And that resonates. And when he played, he was like you see as a coach. He was that tough. He was that demanding on himself.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I'm sure he was that demanding on his teammates. And that resonates as well. I'm happy for him. because of what he's done and because he stayed true to who he is. I think that's the right approach, 100%. Eric Mangini, Fox Sports, Saturday games, Sunday games, Monday games. This is so good. The weather is so good right now.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Great storylines. Great scene, you too. Everywhere. Let's go back to the Derek Carr thing. It's interesting. When we put the draft thing up with all the teams in their schedule. So if you're the GM of the Red, Let me ask you. What would you do?
Starting point is 00:45:53 Well, I would listen to what Josh McDaniel says because we know he's running the show. But yes, I would say, can we get Tom Brady in here? Tom Brady's going to do more for you next year in Vegas than any guy you drafted five or eight will do. So a one-year deal. Are we sure just one? It's going to be 46. I mean, does Tom Brady look washed to you, or is it the Tampa Bay offensive line injuries? Remember, he's also working with Byron Lefwich.
Starting point is 00:46:19 who he hates the game plan so much, he's like, you know, changing things that they're doing. I know he's eating avocado ice cream, but he'll be 46. And the guys that I like, the Burrow, the Mahomes, the Allen, the Herbert, they're closer to 26. That's 20 years. This has not been an accountant. You don't get better with age. That's fair. So are you saying I want to go Bryce Young or roll the dice with Will Levis? I'm keeping Derek Carr and I'm drafting a quarterback. Well, what if Josh McDaniels tells you, I came here to win? I tried to win with Carr. Look at his numbers. This is one of the worst seasons he's had in five or six years. I don't think it's going to be fixed in year two. Get me another guy. Get me Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:46:59 What if Josh McDaniel says that? Well, then you have to get Tom Brady because he's running the show. He's making more than the GM. I'm almost certain of that. All right. Driveway.com. Where's your happy place? Buy.
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