The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 1 - Yankees opening season win, where Ty Simpson might land in the draft, Dan Hurley

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

Colin broke down the Yankees season-opening shutout win over the Giants and coming off Ty Simpson’s pro day explained why teams don’t want to show their hand when it comes to drafting QBs in the first round He talks the NFL draft including where Alabama QB Ty Simpson might land   Guest: Dan HurleySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's the herd. So the Yankees have been unbalanced for years, and they didn't really do anything in the off-season. They added like a number four start. And a lot of good teams were upgrading, elevating, acquiring, and the Yankees did. And if I would have told you last night, opening up on the road, Aaron Judge struck out four times, only Yankee not to reach base.

Logan Webb is pitching for the Giants, led the National League in strikeouts. It just said, uh-oh, yet they rolled on the road. Nine singles, eight different Yankees got hits, all except Aaron Judge, balance. They attacked Logan Webb, and no team is more home run dependent. Yankees scored 50% of the runs on home runs. Tops in baseball. They're unbalanced. Nobody relies on the home run.

And they're very erring judge-reliant. I mean, the Phillies have Bryce Harper and other stars. Dodgers have Otani and other stars. They add Kyle Tucker. The Padres have Machado and other stars. The Yankees are Aaron Judge Reliant, and he didn't do anything last night. And they're an unbalanced offense,

and they didn't it any home runs last night? So this is, I know it's one of 62. Judge had a really bad opener. But, I mean, last night it was singles. It was good at bats. It was the bottom of the lineup. Five through nine hitters hit four, 12. So it was what they don't normally do.

They got a bad night from Aaron Judge against a great pitcher. Logan Webb's an All-Star. They roughed him up in the second inning. Max Fried was home-free. And this is, this is, I know it's 1 of 62, but this is not what the Yankees do. They don't always get good at bats. right they don't they don't move guys along they're not great always situationally they got good starting pitching but last night they got great pitching a lot of singles different guys

bottom of the order that was a nice win balance is going to win your trophies not winning home run titles here was aaron boone after obviously Logan webb's one of the best and to put up a five spot there in the second um with just a lot of really good at bats You know, I thought we pressured him. Even in the first, he went one, two, three. But, you know, every bat was tough, and it was a battle. And I thought all night, you know, we were able to do that against a really good one. Okay.

So yesterday, at the end of the show, Ty Simpson, Bama quarterback, had a pro day. And J. Mack said, at one GM is there? Ryan Poles of the Bears and I suggested it's a smokescreen because if you really like him you don't want to go to the pro day well I had two execs

text me after our show yesterday and said we got it right is that you can get filmed from this without being there. Hey the Rams have crushed the draft they don't even go to the combine so also Ohio State had a pro day a lot of people want to see the Buckeyes they've got multiple first and second rounders

also the Jets are going to do a private workout with Ty Simpson. But this is what I think is happening and why nobody showed up. I think it was absolutely intentional. I do think he's sort of the Jackson, Dart, late first, early second sphere. But every year there's seven teams that need a quarterback. And remember, next year's draft, it's big game hunting, but you're going to have to get about multiple ones, multiple twos and threes to get an archmanning. to potentially get a star quarterback.

So if you can get somebody of value who you see as a franchise quarterback, that's interesting. So let's look at the picks because I think he's going to go somewhere between 15 and 21. Even though I didn't think Jackson Dart was a first rounder. He had a very good rookie season when he was out of the blue tent. So if you look at who is picking 16 to 21, 16 is the jet second pick.

They could take him. Panthers at 19, would they consider it? Steelers at 21, would they consider it? So what does this mean? It means if you want to get this kid, you've got to get to 15 and beat the Jets. And who is at 15? The Buccaneers who have Baker Mayfield,

I presume they're not taking a quarterback. But Jason Light is a longtime, general manager. You don't want to give the 15th GM, Jason Light at 15. You don't want to give him leverage and know you're desperate. So this is a decoy move. This to me ensures I'll go the opposite. I think this ensures that Ty Simpson is going in the middle to late first round. And I do. I do think he's a franchise quarterback. I do. But when nobody showed up except the one team you know is not drafting a quarterback. There's about five, six, seven teams aren't drafting a quarterback. Ryan Pohl shows up. That tells you it to smoke screen. Here was Ty Simpson after his pro day.

I'm tough, I'm resilient. I love football. And I want to make other people better. You know, when I come in their program, I'm programmed with you. I don't just make, you know, myself better. I make other people better. So if you draft me and you want me to be your franchise quarterback, I'm not just coming in to look after myself. I'm looking after the whole team and making sure. that I lead it better than where I was listed. All right. His traits, he's not very big. He's not hyper athletic.

But I do think he's got a good arm. He's athletic enough. I think he's a franchise quarterback. What's interesting about the Steelers is they draft the quarterback in the late first round, rolled the dice on Kenny Pickett, and it didn't work like at all. Ty Simpson's better than Kenny Pickett. I don't think he's as talented as Malik Willis, who went in the picket draft. I think Malik Willis is really, really special.

and I think Dolphin fans and the rest of us will see that very quickly. But Todd McShay was on yesterday. The great thing about Simpson is that Kalin DeBore does a lot of NFL things with his offense. So it's not a really difficult evaluation. And as much as everybody says, well, quarterbacks are random. You never know where they come from. Most good ones come in the first round. Go look at history.

Don't go look at Brady or Montana. overwhelmingly GM's evaluations gotten better and better and better. Ty Simpson, that pro day, nobody shows up. I think he's a first round guy. Here is McShay on the offense at Alabama that actually does him a favor. It's transferable. It's NFL stuff. You know, Ryan Grub's there, and they're doing the pre-snap motion,

deciphering what the coverage is. He's on schedule. Everything's clockwork. The decision-making, it's precise. I know he has. the mind. I know he's got a dad who's been a coach, a head coach in college football for 20 years. He grew up with a football in his hand. He's been around ball. And you see it in his play. Yeah. So J-MAC is the reason I put that in the top of the show today because we talked about it yesterday.

It seems strange. And there were headlines today. Whoa, what is going on? Total smokescreen. You can get video of it. GMs don't want you to know. They're interested. So they have maybe a little leverage if they call Jason lied at 15 of the box and want to move up, I think it's all gamesmanship, and I think that's fine. I think we see games on the field. There's a lot of games

being played off the field, and I'm putting on the screen for our TV audience, 16 through 21. I think both the Jets and the Steelers are live to get him. That's a fair take. I like it. I largely agree that, yeah, you can see the film on and throwing. It's more about, like, if you're

drafting a quarterback, Colin, that's how you get fired as a GM if you whiff on the quarterback. You don't get fired if you miss on a linebacker or an edge rusher, at least not as likelihood of getting canned. You miss on a quarterback, especially in the first round early? There's a good chance in a couple of years you're going. I mean, you don't know how to identify quarterbacks. I think Joe Douglas was pretty good for the Jets, but he missed on Zach Wilson. I mean, he drafted a lot of good players and he missed on him. Yeah, as a result, you want as much information. I want to be around Ty Simpson, see what he's like. I personally believe, and I know this isn't going to be popular in NFL circles, we've seen

other sports go so heavy analytics. NFL is kind of the last one to the game. Baseball and basketball are all analytics. You've bashed them and you're kind of right. You know, it's home runs, it's threes, it's layups. I believe we're seeing a tanking going on in the NFL this season, Colin, where we know next year's quarterback class is loaded. And we do say this every year, oh, it's always going to be a no, no, no, this is

different. Colin, if Arch Manning were in this draft, he would go ahead of Mendoza. Talk to any draft analyst, even though Arch wasn't great, his traits, The lineage, he would go ahead of Mendoza. I think teams, jets, dolphins, cardinals, I don't even think they're interested in the quarterback. I think it's a race to the bottom for next year's quarterback. Well, you know, you and I have discussed this,

that the basketball and football cultures in America are divergent. They're totally different. And the football culture is better. Their minor league system is better than, you know, the NBA G-League system, although NBA is smartly now kind of leaning into college basketball. But I would say this. I said this two years ago.

The last two years in the NFL, I have said it reminds me at the bottom of the NBA. It's really unwatchable by like Thanksgiving. It used to be there would be two awful teams. This year, Miami could be tanking. I'm not going to use tanking. Miami, Cleveland, Arizona. I think the Raiders will be interesting.

So I'm not going to put them there. But there's a lot of junk at the bottom. I Yeah, I don't think Because of the physicality You can tank in football I think you can play backups But your rosters are what they are

And there's so many injuries that sometimes You know, you've got to play who's healthy Look at the Seattle model, Colin Seattle built all the infrastructure They rolled the dice with Gino Smith Did not work. Then they went Sam Darnold And the infrastructure was loaded Like you say, the best roster in the league

And they win the Super Bowl Why can't the Jets Cardinals and Brown say, hey, we're not going to go for a quarterback. We're going to load up on defensive end, trenches, everything. And then we get our quarterback next year. I don't want to draft Ty Simpson in the first round. Why? He's not that great.

I could sooner get a good player who's going to be a starter, round out my roster, and then plug and play Archmanning, car from Notre Dame, or whoever pops next year like Cam Ward or Fernando Mendoza. Yeah. Good stuff. By the way,

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It was very intense. and let's be totally honest. There's three teams that can win the championship. And the Celtics and the OKC Thunder. You watched two of them last night. The others, the Spurs. The Lakers don't have the athletes or the defense. The Pistons don't have the offense.

Denver on most nights, way too Yokic reliant. Houston doesn't have a true point guard. Forget about that. They're struggling. And the Knicks are interesting, but they're not as good as Boston. And frankly, Brunson and Kat are their two best players. and their major defensive liabilities. You can hunt both in big playoff games.

The Celtics had six guys in double figures. Now that Peyton Pritchard, with Tatum back, is going to go to the bench. He's a killer off the bench. So they've got the bench. They don't turn the ball over. I mean, they're very, Joe Mazzulus ended up being an unbelievable coach.

We didn't, I mean, the first year you're like, I don't know if that guy's a head coach. He's really good. Players totally respond to him. Tatum, whose shot was kind of clunky for several games back. they're now seven and two with Tatum. So their bigs are young. They've moved off some old guys like Horford and Porzingis.

Their bigs are young. They're athletic. They're healthier. They've got a real guy on the bench. This is a real team. And they're top five and everything this year. And most of that's without Jason Tatum. So, and you say to yourself, Colin, there's more than three teams.

Every year, take out the 1970s. Where it was like eight. In the 70s, it was like the Warriors, Elvin Hayes and the bullets, the Sonics, the Portland Trailblazers. Oh, yeah, Dr. Jay and the Sixers. There were a lot of teams, and they were all kind of good. The Celtics on their best nights are excellent. They take a lot of threes, and they hit a lot, and they can defend,

and they're well-coached, and they don't turn it over. And that was a playoff game last night. So most of my life, there's three teams that can win it. Sometimes two. If you go back to the Warriors dynasty, it was the Warriors' Cavs for a five-year stretch. you can say, what about the Dallas Mavericks during the Hedles? That's the most shocking final finish of my life. You know, LeBron was struggling to post up J.J. Barreya.

It was like an outlier. It was crazy. Shaq and Kobe. It was basically the Lakers and Spurs for five years. Those were the two best teams in the league. And, I mean, I grew up in the Bird Magic era. There were two teams. So, you know, they're just most of my life, there's been a couple of teams.

The Shaq Kobe years. You go back to the Shaq Kobe years. Everybody knew, Lakers, Spurs are the two best teams. Whoever wins that, it's going to win the finals. Right? So I look at Boston, defense, two stars, well-coached, star off the bench, and then I look at, you know, Wemby, you could argue that was the finals last night. You can argue that was the finals.

I don't believe this. I don't believe it, but a lot of people think San Antonio was way too young. Celtics and OKCF guys who have been in the playoffs. guys who have been in the finals. Wemby and those guys, it's regular season stuff. I don't. I think Wemby changes the geometry of the whole league.

Even offensively, you have to double him. There's guys open in the corner. He changes everything. So, I mean, LeBron got, who changed the geometry for a long time, he got to a finals with a bad starting five. They got swept by the spurs, but they got there.

So here's Jalen Brown on the win last night. I think that game was. awesome. I think that one, the intensity level of the game was very high. It felt like a playoff game. The crowd was into the game. And I felt like that was a great encouraging game for JT, like high level, intensity, physical team. And it felt like, you know, that was a step in the right direction. You know, we're still encouraging them to get back to that level of aggression that we know and are used to. But I think today was a great game. sure was jacac with news

no no no turn on the news this is the herd line news well we're going to start with a team that i think has a better shot to get to the finals than the thunder and that's a los angeles lakers colin yes lakers with a spectacular win last night against tanking indiana the story is lucca dants Colin i'm going to hit you some stats here

uh even if you're not buying the luka MVP candidate seat listen up 21 points in the first quarter, Colin. 21. That's his eighth 20 point quarter of this year. He was good. His eight times he scored over 20 points in a quarter. That's the most in the NBA. He finished with 43 and he becomes the first player, Luca,

since Michael Jordan with six straight road games averaging over 40. Colin, take a gander at that. I don't want to hear about some, oh, SGA scoring 20 points every game for 100 games. Who cares? Look what he did. Jordan. Colin, some context. There weren't as many bad teams during Jordan's era.

The Pacers are the worst team in the league. They're tanking. I mean, Jordan was playing with expansion Toronto, but even they beat the Bulls once. The bottom of this league right now is Tankabalooza. So, I mean, the Pacers are awful. They won't be when Halliburton comes back. But, I mean, it's a nice win.

A win is a win. But I wouldn't compare him to Michael Jordan. So as a score, he's going to probably, be past Michael Jordan all time. I mean, the guy's an unbelievable score. Right now, Lakers are third in the West. They are. Here's the interesting thing. So OKC's lost, the Spurs won. So the Lakers have two more games with OKC. There is a world where the Lakers, if they were able to win one or two of those, the Spurs could pass OKC in the West for the number one seat. So the Lakers, I know they got Brooklyn on Friday. They should win by a million. But they are comfortably third right now.

right if the season ended now they would face the Houston Rockets in the first round that's maybe they they match up very well with the Rockets because the Rockets don't have a pure point they miss Fred Van Vleet been her all year and and the Lakers have several guys who can initiate offense LeBron Austin Hel Marcus Smart could Luca the Lakers are a bad bad matchup for Houston that's a that's a double use that's who you want if you're the Lakers you want Houston they can't these teams that don't have a pure point the Clippers battled this for years, with Kauai is getting you into your offense. Houston right now, I know championships don't go through points, point guards, but when you're

struggling to figure out how to initiate offense, Lakers never have that problem. They're as good as anybody in the league at getting into a good shot. So that would be a great matchup for the Lakers. By the way, for all the Luka is fat, Luca can't dunk, he's slow. He's averaging 33.6 points per game, most in the season. He has 1440 point games. It's fair to say. Like, Wembe's the most dominant. Luca's the best scorer.

I don't know what SGA is. I don't know why he's the MVP favorite. Why? Because the Spurs have the best record in the league. Get out of here with that. He's the leader. He's also a willing defender. Luke has no turnstile.

By the way, did you see Jalen Brown attack SGA last night? SGA couldn't stop him? Well, Jalen Brown's stronger than an SGA. And Jalen Brown's a all NBA player. I think he's made the all NBA one-ter. twice. I mean, Jalen Brown's a, how many times, I mean, he's a, Jalen Brown, because of Tatum, and because the Celtics are kind of considered team and roster, we talk about the GM and they've had a coaching change. Jalen Brown doesn't get nearly the love. He's been a great player for the last

six or seven years. He's not dramatic. He's not seeking attention. He's just kind of a cerebral, intense, you know, and everybody, and I do think Tatum's a more natural fluid score. Oh, yeah. It looks like it comes easier. for Tatum than Brown. Jalen Brown's a great. He's going to be a Hall of Famer. Yeah. Jalen Brown's also not a free throw merchant like SGA. So listen, I'm not bashing. I'm just saying Luca's a better overall player than SGA. Look at why are you laughing. Come on. All right. Let's move on to the next story. Colin, yesterday, we talked about this Cade Cunningham situation. He's not going to get to play 65 games, meaning he won't be first team all NBA or even second or be up for any awards.

Well, Adam Silver, I guess took note. Maybe he was watching the segment. And Adam Silver is pushing back against the Players Association for this. Here we go. We always knew when there's a line you draw that somebody's going to fall on the other side of that line. And it may feel unfair in that particular instance. You know, let's see what happens at the end of this year. So, by the way, Kate Cunningham, he's an incredible player. And I'm sorry that he's injured.

And, you know, can't wait to see him back on the floor. But having said that, you know, we also have to remember that the extent that one place, player is no longer eligible. Some other player will then be all NBA. Yes. A slot into that spot. So I'm not ready to standing here saying, I don't think it's working. I think it is working. I totally 100% agree. Listen, you know, you know, that you knew this was going to happen, as Adam Silver said. When you set this up, there was going to be a really good player who just, you know,

rips a knee up or whatever and can't play. But then somebody else steps in and gets an opportunity. the NBA, NBA or National Basketball Players Association. Guys, this was created because of load management. Look in the mirror. It's effective.

I think it is working. And it's not perfect. That's why, I mean, we've changed the Constitution before. Like, nothing's perfect. You have to be amenable to change. This was not, don't go precious and idealistic.

This was created for a reason. The reason was legitimate. It has absolutely worked. And Cade Cunningham is a great player. He doesn't need a piece of paper or an award to validate it. He's a great player, and every guy in the league knows it. Yeah, I think both things are true. It is working, like you said, like Silver said.

And also, we can feel bad that Cade Cunningham is getting screwed by this rule. But more players are playing. I don't know if there's like a happy medium where you're able to say, you know what? We'll make an exception. I played 61 games and missed the last three weeks. No, no exceptions. No exceptions, huh? Rules or rules.

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I don't know how that applies. Not my kids. My kids are angels. Yeah, of course they are. Mine are mostly. Final Story, Con. Let's go to the NFL and the Dallas Cowboys draft strategy, which basically has Jerry Jones just does whatever he wants.

But Brian Schottenheimer said something interesting. He was at the Texas Pro Day, another guy who skipped the Ty Simpson workout. And I don't know. He said we've had an awesome offseason. And here we go. Here's what we're going to do in the draft. I think we did a really good job setting ourselves up to be able to draft natural and draft pure, which is what you want to do.

You don't want to have to be forced to reach for a player. That's when you make mistakes. We've added some really good pieces. We've got some good depth. There's still a few positions that we need to address. That's all part of the process. Like I say all the time, not my line. I think it's Stevens or Jerry's, but it's 24-7, 365, and it never stops. But we're never stopping to look. We're always open for business. Yeah, I mean, I don't know where, I mean, if I was them, I would go Caleb Downs in the back end. I think Dallas about 12 has a chance to go. I would go corner or safety. The best safety may not be available. Caleb Downs, I think he'll be off the board. But I think the best corner, the kid out of LSU may be available. I would go secondary. I tend to think you're going to pay DAC and CD Lamb for the foreseeable future and Pickens for one year. I think the O-Lines young.

You don't have to pay them for a couple of years mostly. And you're also paying Kenny Clark. His salary cap hit goes up. Quinn and Williams. Roshan Gary, you need to get cheap on the back end of that defense. You've got to get more talented and more inexpensive on the back end. end of the defense. So don't rule out, as you see Dallas has the 20th pick as well as 12th. Don't rule out Jerry getting impatient and seeing Ruben Bain drop and be like, let's go grab

Ruben. This is what he does. So in my mock, I have Sunny Stiles going to the Cowboys. And all these people are like, Sunny Stiles is never going to fall that far. I'm just going to point to Shador Sanders last year who dropped to the fifth round. Anything can happen at the draft. And Sunny Stiles is a linebacker. I don't think there's a lot of players. would move up for. I agree. I think, I do think, I mean, I'm trying to think of somebody I would absolutely move up for.

I mean, listen, if Jeremiah Love somehow falls, is that somebody, would you move up for running back? Again, the rule is no. It's a good offensive tackle draft. if if if funno the right tackle from Utah and I need like I think Kansas City is desperate for a right tackle I think there's two or three teams and I think the New York Giants desperately need a right tackle I contend the Giants should take the tackle and and he doesn't you know he doesn't he's not Jonathan Ogden but he was an unimpeachable player for Utah and Utah plays a big boy schedule

I just don't think there are a lot of guys I'd move up for. Like, if I was Cleveland, and Cleveland should go and get Cornell Tate at wide receiver, so I don't think they'll have to move up. I think he's an absolute number one physically, but there's not a lot of guys. In fact, an interesting team to me is, go to the show the picks again.

The Miami Dolphins are fascinating, because they've got two ones and four threes. I could see the Miami Dolphins Using one of their three Maybe go three and a five They've got two ones I could see the dolphins saying Listen we got two ones

We're not going to move up for the second one But I could see the dolphins They don't need a running back either But they don't have a weapon And they're going to fix that O line I could see the dolphins Going from 11 to like eight And say we'll give you a third

And I don't think you're going to get a ton in this draft Everybody knows it's not a great draft Keep your eye on the dolphins. I could see the giants going backwards. I could see the dolphins going up because they have enough picks between the first pick and the end of the third. They have four, five, they have seven picks. I would give one of those up to get Carnell Tate from Malik Willis or get the best right tackle. My guess is, and these guys the dolphins have running the ship now are from Green Bay, a team that drafts and develops well.

they know the value of the draft also with them because of the Tua contract that's still hovering over. They need star players who they don't have to pay a lot to. I keep your eye on the Dolphins being one of the few teams that move. And they're not going to move up to two. But man, Malik Willis does not have a weapon. I mean, they're, and they need major. Maybe they're one of the teams. By the way, to go to the Cowboys for a sec, you saw that screen, we had an image.

They got two safeties at a cornerback in this offseason. So I'm not saying that takes downs off the board because he's obviously, you know, has huge upside. I would just keep an eye on linebacker and in the trenches on the defensive front here, you know? J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lide News. It may be the best game of the weekend.

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I like Purdue. Purdue's a very interesting with Matt Painter is they don't do a lot of portal guys. They pay their own guys. They remind me a little bit of the Villanova way to do it. They recruit high school guys. I like Purdue tonight. I like Iowa to shock Nebraska a little bit. I don't know if it's shocking.

Arizona may be the best team left. I like Arizona tonight. I would take Calvin Sampson and Houston. I'm not sure. I watched Illinois play two or three times. Michigan kind of pushed them around, but Michigan pushed a lot of people around. So I'm not sure.

All right. Tomorrow night, it's Yukon and Michigan State. That may be the best game of the weekend. It's Dan Hurley against Tom Izzo, and Coach Hurley is now joining us live. All right. This is going to be, you know, it's funny. You know what's funny about this,

is that you started the year 22 and 1, your only loss was close to Arizona. And Arizona, there's an argument. It's the best team in the tournament. They're a hell of a team. And you get a two seed. I would argue you could be a one seed, but the sport is thicker. The sport is better.

Do you feel you're more of a one seed or do you think to yourself, coach, you know, we're not quite as athletic. We don't have a Stefan Castle. How do you view your team as a great two or maybe should be a one? I think it was close. I mean, you know, it's great being on a Colin, and I loved your breakdown, and we played a couple of those teams. I mean, Illinois is excellent, and, you know, they have as good a chance as anyone to get to a final four, and we were able to beat those guys. You know, Florida, who, you know, I think it was a lot of people's pick to, you know, to get back to the final four, maybe go back to back.

You know, we beat those guys in the non-conference this year. So, you know, our high-end wins, you know, the performance against St. John's at home, you know, we've showed an ability to be as good as anyone in the country. We haven't always come through in the championship moments, you know, but, you know, the reality is we're a 31 win team. We had as good at non-conference performance as anyone in the country. And then we went 19 and 3 in the Big East in 22 Big East games. So, you know, we feel like we're as dangerous as any team in the country. We know that Michigan State, that is going to be at war. It's a real manly contest.

And, you know, there's a reason why they're called Spartans. They're very physical. Yeah. It's going to be a battle. Yeah, I mean, I watch the UCLA game. And I really like UCLA's guard play. But when you got hot before the half, my take was the second half. It was Yukon basketball.

It was physical. It was tough. Michigan State's fascinating. They have one of my favorite players in the tournament, Cohen Carr. He is a really. relentless player. He just jumps through the television screen. And I want you to talk a little bit about him because I do think you in Michigan State, Carr makes it a very interesting matchup. It's going to be very physical. It's going to be hard to officiate. Does Cohen Carr jump off to you?

I think it's going to be a hard game to officiate. Tell me about Cohen Carr. What do you see with him? Well, we saw him. And obviously it wasn't a regular season game. It didn't count. But in the exhibition, we played these guys in October. So we shared the court. And unless you've seen his athleticism and physicality and the way he runs the court, how fast he gets down that left lane. And when it's takeoff time, it's like, it's watch out. So as a cutter on the baseline, the lobs, the offensive rebounds,

the driving his left hand, the getting out transition. and if you're not dialed into those things, he's going to put you on a highlight reel. And, you know, those are things that are controllable. And now he's made some threes the last couple games, too. So, you know, I love where college basketball is at. I said there was about a 20-year period where I just didn't have enough good players. And then I said a couple years ago, I'm watching your title team.

And I said, okay, they can compete against Billy Donovan's Gators. You got four or five. You got NBA length, physicality coaching. That was the precipice. To me, that was the beginning of all the international guys are coming over. All the NILs keeping guys. I feel like right now, Dan, the sports got so much damn talent. When I watch these games, they don't shoot quite like the NBA.

But do you feel, do you notice it? You've been there eight years. Over the last four years, there's just more dudes. There's more pros. Do you feel it? Yeah. Yeah, you're 1,000% correct. We'll get more of those high-level international players are coming over.

Those younger players that aren't quite at the top division over there making the real money. It's more appealing to come play college basketball. And then, yeah, I mean, you're getting players are now staying longer. Those guys that are fringe first-round picks, those guys that non-lottery players that aren't guaranteed to go in the lottery or in the first 20 picks, Most of those guys are making a smart decision of staying in college where basically they can now get the same amount of money. But you're also going to get developed better at college than you will in the G League. You're also going to live better. You're also going to live better.

You're going to travel better. You're going to stay in nicer hotels. Yes. You're going to be in the actual $40 million practice facility as opposed to being in practicing community college. colleges in the G League. Yeah. So you have 2023, Yukon, five NBA guys, 24, four NBA guys. Castle was on that team.

Lakers made you an offer. You turn it down. The stories now that Izzo came and you talked to Tom Izzo. One of the things I like about college basketball now, the old guys are crushing. Calipari's, Izzo, Patino, Rick Barnes. The NBA has gotten very young, actually. There's a bunch of young guys. But I said at the time, I said, no, I think you're a college coach.

And that's not that you couldn't coach. I think Billy Donovan and you could both go either way. When you look back at it now, the decision to stay is there was there ever one second of regret? Yeah, definitely. Well, I don't know about regret, but, I mean, second guessing. I don't think that there's, you know, many people that would honestly say that you don't second-guess decisions that you make in your life, huge decisions. you know, beyond just career decisions, but marital. I mean, people make, you know, all types of second-guessing on things that they've chosen,

especially when you see how well the Lakers are playing right now. Or, you know, you see the trade for Luca and you watch LeBron playing at the level he's playing at. You know, you definitely do at different times. But I just, I love the control you still have in college, you know, like the, college coach and college football and college basketball coaches still has the control to really run the organization up to his standard and his level of accountability. And I think that's, so you really do control your own destiny as a college coach. And that's something I would never want to give up. So Izzo barks, I'm defending guys that use volume as coaching this week.

I've been saying, guys, you know, obviously Bobby and I went over the line a few times, but you bark at officials more than you bark at players. You're probably tough, one of those guys that's tough at practice, but you're really on the officials. When I wonder, because you have the highest winning percentage of any active coach, you've won almost 80% of your tournament games. That's insane. Do you coach a little differently in the tournament? For instance, if I was an official, I would run you out of an arena.

in November. I'm not running you out now. Do you think you get a little more leeway in March? You can raise the volume a little to the striped shirts. You have a little more, little more leeway. I actually flip it. I think I think I picked up a couple of technicals this year that I really didn't deserve because not a lot of attention is drawn to some of those regular season games on a Tuesday night. some, you know, the 12th conference game of the year on a Tuesday at Providence or whatever the situation is. You know, I think there's more eyes on everybody this time of year. So if you hand out a weak technical foul, you're going to get called out on social media. You may not ref the next round of the tournament. So I think, and then I also feel for myself, I'm more relaxed

this time of year. I think you work so hard to put yourself in position where you're in contention. Now you find yourself with a team that's in contention. You're more relaxed this time of year. When you're coaching in December or January, you're really uptight, man. It's like if things start going bad in December, now you're looking at staring down the barrel of, man, I got two or three more months of hell with this group if we get out of two-game losing streak where you don't worry about picking the pieces up this time of year. If you go down, you know, it's kill or be killed this time of year. If you go down, you don't have to worry about picking the pieces up with your team the next day.

There are no pieces. It's over. Yeah. That Marquette game, was that, you were uptight end of that game. Yeah, I remember. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was crushing. I mean, that was, I mean, that was crushing.

And I was literally breathing down the neck of, uh, of my guy John, who's an excellent official, who refed me going back to Wagner College. I think John was on my game where I really started to believe I can have a career as a college coach. I took my Wagner team. We won at Pitt.

I think Pitt was ranked top ten in the country and it was the second year of Wagner College. And we went and won a road game at Pittsburgh and John was on that game. So anytime I see John out there, I actually feel really good, just not that day in Milwaukee. That was your only bad loss of the season. You lost Arizona and St. John's those are good losses.

You're fun. Creighton's good. All right. Good luck. You're coaching against your mentor. You're a little nervous going up against Izzo. A little tricks from Izzo. You're a little nervous.

I think you're, as you get closer to the game, I mean, the film doesn't love. Like when you coach against the best coaches, you know, their teams are so hard to beat. I remember just so I first got here and Jay Wright was at Nova and you start watching his team and you just say, they don't give you a lot. You know, they don't give you anything free. Like they just, they make you earn it. You have to, you have to play, you have to win the street fight and you also have to outplay him at basketball. So, you know, you just know that you're going to have to earn it. And, yeah, Coach is, you know, he's a great friend and a great mentor.

But again, for both of us tomorrow night, it's killer be killed. Good senior. Great senior. Good luck to you. Kyle, a great senior, brother. You're the man. All right, Dan Hurley. Eight seasons at Yukon won 77% of his tournament games.

That is just one of those. You can win a free beer at the bar with that trivia. That's an unbelievable number. And, yeah, they had a real bad loss. He got ejected really late in the game. I think there's only a couple seconds left against Marquette. They had a meltdown. That was a really bad game.

Lost the St. John's Arizona, Creighton. Creighton's always, I think Creighton's been pretty good. That coach is retiring. McDermott's retiring. So you can look at the schedule one more time. Purdue keep your, they're not a dark horse. So what are they, a two seed? Purdue, they don't bring in a lot of transfers.

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