The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 2 - A possible destination for Tom Brady

Episode Date: December 16, 2022

Colin's new Blazing 5 picks for the weekend Would Tom Brady and the Raiders be a good fit?   Guest: Geoff SchwartzSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What a pleasure to be here live in Los Angeles. It's the herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening. IHard Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FOS, 1. We both loved the Niners last night to win in cover. They did. You know, I was thinking about this. We got the World Cup final, Argentina and France on Sunday. We got NFL games tomorrow and Sunday.

We always talk about the best month of the year for sports. October maybe one. Boy, December could be two. December, I love it right now with a World Cup in. I like November a lot. Plus you get the Thanksgiving games in. I lean November, slightly over March for March Madness is number two. All those games, have you ever noticed this? I have no stats to back this up. Seahawk games in Seattle are always crazy. They're always interesting. Carolina game, nobody watched it because of other games, was really good.

It's a fun game to watch. here we go it's the blazing five i feel really good about it um it's an interesting time of the year are there some teams off buys here i like let's go that's a hot one let's blaze it up it's collins blazing five colds and vikings okay the number was better earlier in the week when it was closer to four and four and a half but i'm going to take the colts plus three and a half at the vikings they're coming off a by they were humiliated in their last game Love teams that have been embarrassed. They had a lot of time to think about that.

The Vikings defense is a mess. Colts are in a lot of close games. Season pride on the line. Right now, the Vikings defense is the worst in the league. It's the worst past defense in the league. It's the worst total defense in franchise history. It's just too many points. They plan too many close games.

I liked it better at four and a half. I'll still bet it at three and a half. Colts upset the Vikings. It's a go-either-way game 24-23. Eagles at Bears. I'm going to take the Bears plus nine. Again, coming off a buy, all four home losses this year have been under nine points. Justin Fields, since week six, I'm getting 60 yards rushing and a touchdown every game.

In fact, since week six, been pretty decent. We've seen growth. I do think this is a very good coaching staff. And that always helps off a buy. The Eagles second game on a three-game roadie. Cowboys coming up off a dominating win. It is a classic, natural letdown spot. The Eagles win, but I'm taking the nine points, 30-24 Philadelphia.

Patriots and Raiders. I'm going to take the Raiders minus one and a half. Hunter Renfro comes back. This is a big game for Derek Carr and Josh McDaniels. He's quarterbacking and he's coaching for, you know, their careers. The Raiders are coming off extra rest. They've outgained each of their last four opponents. And do you know only the Eagles have turned it over fewer times?

They don't beat themselves. They just have certain limitations. Josh Jacobs leads the NFL in rushing yards. Devonte Adams is a beast. Hunter Renfro returns and the Patriots who have lost two of three are 0 and 6 when they allow 20 or more points. Josh McDaniels, I think knowing this defense can have some success. Patriots offense is week seven's pathetic. They have one touchdown drive of 10 plus plays this year, fewest in the league.

They're also all beat up. Devonte Parker, Jacoby Myers, Arizona had a backup. I think the Raiders, Derek Carr quarterbacking for his Raider career, beat the Patriots 28 to 23. Titans at Chargers. I'm going to take the Titans in the United States. the points. They're actually a very good road team. Four and three on the year. Ryan Tannahill's last eight games. A lot better than Tua against this defense that Bosa's gone, Derwin James out.

Ryan Tannahill's last eight games, he has a passer rating over 100. The Chargers don't beat anybody big as a favorite. They're a terrible favorite team, better as a dog. Their defense this year, not good. And Herbert's been sacked 18 times in the last month. More than any quarterback in the league since week 11, and they're just too overly reliant on Herbert. 45 plus passing attempts in three straight games, don't be fooled by this defense owning to them. Ryan Tanniel's playing good football. Titans, desperate, still lead their division.

It's not a terrible team. They're in a bad skid. They're getting healthier. 24, 23, Tennessee. Rams and Packers. This number was six and a half. I liked it more. already made my bet. I'm going to take Green Bay here. Extra rest. Week 14 by. Aaron's been

great at home this year, folks. Twelve touchdowns and a pick and 104 passer rating. Where they've struggled is on the road. Where they've struggled are against physical teams. The Rams are neither. They've also had 100 plus rushing yards in five or six games, meaning finally Matt Lefleur figured it out. Aaron Rogers, Aaron Jones. That's your offense. Romeo Dobbs, by the way, coming back. Christian Watson has emerged, and the Rams are bad. They were getting beat. Baker Mayfield had a great last drive and deserves credit.

But this year, he was completing 58% of his throws. The Rams are 1 and 4 on this season. They don't have many of their best players. Packers went on Monday night at Lambo 30 to 20. Any of those you hated? I'm against you on Titans for sure. All right. I was on the Patriots, but you made a compelling case for the Raiders, so I may stay away.

I did bet the Vikings as well. A lot of disagreement this week, Howard. I'm a little nervous, but I've been hot in the $4 million contest, 12 and 3 last three weeks, so I'm now in striking range of cashing. And so now I'm overthinking everything, and I'm like, oh. What do I know? What do you mean? What do you know?

You devour the NFL 24-7. I know. What do you know? That's right. I am a little bit of a Bengali. Jeff Schwartz. former NFL offensive lineman knows a thing or two about betting Fox Sports analysts joining us in studio. You must love.

So I was saying this, I was texting a buddy last night. I said, you know the Niners defensive front is good when Seattle's pretty good offensive line could hold up for about a second and a half. It looked like they were playing two different speeds, two different sports last night, especially in the first half. The Seattle's defense line was incredibly good. And they were setting guys up with the way they were doing their games. And Seattle's offensive line, you mentioned the tackles are good. They struggled all night. It was a tough, it was a tough go for that.

Did you ever face as an NFL offensive lineman for almost a decade? Did you ever, because I think this is an all-time defense. By the way, this Ward kid they got from the Chiefs at Corner. Yeah, he's playing much better than he did in Kansas City. He's like a one. I mean, there's never a great corner on the market. So, I mean, Corner was their weakness. They got a pro bowler over there.

Pro bowlers at safety. Best linebacker and Fred Warner. Did you ever face a defensive line where you knew on film going in? It's going to be a rough week. Oh, of course. I remember the 2010 49ers, the Justin Smith, Alden Smith, Ray McDonald. That defense line was not fun to play against. The Ravens that same year were very good in 2010.

So they were the Steelers. I mean, you play these teams. And the thing about it now, I feel like there's more good pass rushers. There's more. Each week you're playing someone who can beat you definitively the entire game, where it wasn't, I don't think it was quite that case when I first came in the NFL in 2008. Like now each week,

there's one or two dudes that are legit on each team. So when you watch the Niners with Brock Purdy, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. But if you were an offensive lineman, Trent Williams is like, I love him. Yeah. He is more mobile than Garoppolo. When I watch that offense,

it's the same offense with a more mobile quarterback. The guys like him because he does what the coach tells him to do. If this is this look, you throw here, if it's that look, you throw here, and he does not make mistakes. He doesn't turn the ball over, doesn't fumble the ball, doesn't hold the ball too long, doesn't drop too deep. He does exactly what the coach tells him to do in each and every play, and you can live with a player that does that.

You just don't want him to lose you games. It's not what he's doing right now. He's throwing to the guy that's open each time, They're keeping him out of third and long because they run the ball so well and they scheme up things well for him. But he's not making mistakes. And you can live with a quarterback, a third string guy. Who doesn't make mistakes? He's just doing what the coach tells him to do.

So I saw a story that it really jumped out to me. It got it, it got slow played or underplayed by most of the media. Yes. Where Tom Brady's tweaking the game plan and doesn't tell his coaches. So Brady was asked about it and got ticked off and said, it's stupid. I'm not even going to answer the question. question. But I remember having a discussion with Jeff Saturday, I think it was one time,

about Aaron Rogers. He played with him for a year. And he said that Aaron would get plays from the sidelines and the relationship between Aaron and Mike deteriorated so much that Aaron would just eye roll him and not do it. So when you hear that Brady thing, is there ever, I mean, you tell me in your NFL career, was there ever a quarterback that said, listen, we're just going to do this, don't worry about the coach. No, but also as a player, you might not know because you don't hear what's being said in the headset. You're just hearing the quarterback give you the play call. So if they call in something and Tom call something else, you don't know that to you watch film on Monday. You don't know. And the coach has to then say, hey, I call a different play or the

quarterback is to admit, yeah, I didn't run the play that was called. Very rarely do quarterbacks come in the huddle, even if they don't like the play and say, hey, guys, we're not running what's in my headset, we're going to run whatever I want. So if Tom is changing the game plan, he's doing that without telling the players. He's just go and say, hey, we're going to run this play that I want to run. But they're best when he's calling the offense. They're best in the two-minute drill. They're best when he's in charge because

the offense is so dysfunctional. They run plays that do not work in the run game. They're very predictable. And I don't think they do enough play action pass. And so when Tom is more in charge of the offense, and I'm not advocating for him to do this all the time, right? Like, there's a structure and you need to follow what your coach and the game plan is.

But I get why he's saying, let me do this. We're better when I'm calling the plays. We're better when we're in the two-minute trail. We're better when I'm in charge. So I always believe that you're as good as the market says you are. Yes. Even in my business, it doesn't matter what critics say. If I'm available on the market, who comes after me?

Harbaugh would get eight NFL offers and 30 college offers. Ryan Day would not get an NFL offer and would get maybe, you know, he'd get some, but people could look and say, hey, you got dominated by Harbaugh. That tells you the better coaches. So my thing about the Derek Carr critics is, if he's, you know, he's, you know, He is on the market today. Both New York teams would kick it. I think, I think Washington, Indianapolis, is, so it's an interesting situation.

So right now, let's put up if we can, guys, the draft board. So they end the year against the Niners and Chiefs. Yes. And they face the Patriots and go to Pittsburgh. So if they lose this weekend, you could see yourself saying from eight to about five. It could go sideways. So if the Texans and the Seahawks both take a quarterback, the Bears won't. I think the Lions would be out of their mind to.

They could supplant Philadelphia. Would you, you tell me, you run the team now. Derek's more than capable. But, Jeff, I can get a first and a second easily. If Josh McDaniel sticks around and they say, hey, look, let's say he does. Let's say he does. I think he's going to want his own guy. We know all the time that the general manager and coaches want their own quarterback.

I would imagine if he can get a deal for Derek Carr, he will take it. He'll draft his own guy and he'll build the program up under this new quarterback. But I can also see him saying, look, we'll ride one more year with Carr, we'll draft a player at a position of need, you know, defensive back, offensive line, wide receiver, somewhere around there. We'll ride one more year with Carr. And maybe we stink enough to get ourselves like Caleb Williams or, you know, or May next year. So here's my takeaway, though, I told J-Mack this.

If he would have never had the Denver disaster. And this was his first job. I think absolutely he gets a quarterback. Yes. But this is his last chance. Okay, bombed in Denver. Yeah. Doesn't work here.

The $7 million a year jobs, there are not many on the planet. You're done getting them. So my takeaway is part of him is thinking, well, I can win with Derek Carr if I clean this defense up. Yes, but you're never going to be good enough to win the division, right?

I mean, you'll be close. But the chiefs are about to win their seventh division in a row, and this is a year where they're supposed to be down, right? starting four rookies on defense or playing four rookies, brand new wide receiving core, and you have the Chargers, seems to be maybe over that hump finally. The Broncos can't be as bad next year.

Maybe they can. But like you're in a position where is Carr that quarterback to even win you the division? And I could see him saying, look, we rather go with a young guy who has more upside possibly and let's go get ourselves another first round picked for Derek Carr. So tomorrow night, Buffalo windy to us.

I made this comp yesterday. left-handed SEC, played with great players, religious conviction, physical limitations, get drafted, overdrafted, and people in their building

are split on them, in their building. Yes. And they go on a winning streak and we think there's something they're not. And in the end, if Tua gives us

the third straight game where he is overwhelmed, there is a T-Boe field to it. Now, he's a much better passer than T-Bo. T-Bos a much bigger, stronger athlete, though. And, by the way, Tebow's got a playoff win,

two a dozen. Yeah. And I'll just ask you, if he unravels for a third time, and he's not just struggled, Jeff, it's been three for 17 stuff. It's like Tebow stuff. Do you think he loses the room? Does he lose the organization? I don't think so.

And I think if you like to, you'll find ways to discount a bad game, right, as we do. And if you don't like him, you'll say, hey, look, again, three games in a row. But I do want to see how Mike McDaniel figures out how to stop what the defense are doing to him, right? I mean, there's a clear blueprint now. They're playing press man coverage, and then they're playing kind of a zone on third down saying, hey, we're going to slow you from throwing the three or four type of throws you like. And so I want to see Mike McDaniel in the offense and Tua find the second gear. Might not happen this weekend.

They're playing a good Buffalo team. They're playing in bad weather. But I want to give them a chance to figure that part out before I say, hey, Tua can't do it. This coaching staff can't do it. We're moving off of Tua. The Tibo thing, he's not even close. Tebow's like here, too. I mean, I don't think it's close.

Okay. Well, Tebow didn't get hurt a lot. Fair enough, but he also, he only played three seasons in the NFL. I know. Yeah, I just, I think Tua's far better than Tebow. Okay, that's fine. So, Bosa, roughing the passer, you watch it. We saw it with Herbert.

Yeah. How does an offensive lineman view it? I don't like it. And I think if they want to review them fine, but it used to be like a 30-second review, and I get the argument that, hey, you want these guys to stay healthy. But my question when it comes to calling these and to calling targeting in college football, okay, is that are defensive linemen and linebackers, are they actually thinking in the moment, ooh, I don't want to get a targeting?

I don't think they're thinking, they're not changing the way they're playing because you're calling more of these. And maybe they are in the NFL, they're not kind of diving on those quarterbacks or kind of rolling to the side. But in the end, like, guys, I don't think are fundamentally changing the way they're playing the game to avoid these type of plays. And so I like this is not this is not a roughing the passer. Like it could have changed the game. It was 213. It was going to be 283 and said Seattle scores and now it's a close game at the end.

Like to me that's not roughing the passer. I get what the rule is. But I would not have forced it like that. So watching Seattle last night, it's interesting because you look at the, I don't have them with me. I wish I did. If you look at Gino Smith's numbers, it's like I think like 31 or 32 of 4. You look at his numbers. If I never seen him play, you're like, oh, he spread the ball around to seven receivers.

He's more than capable. He's now, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's he's, he's a adult, he's focused, he's a grown-up. Yes. He's always been big, and he's always had a good arm. So, but my take is Seattle has two first round picks, one of them top five because of Denver, and they're just never going to be there again. So they just have to take a quarterback.

I think Seattle doesn't probably have a choice. But it is interesting because you watch Gino, size, arm, focus, players love him. What do you make of what Seattle's going to do now with Gino? I think they have to keep him on a short-term deal if they can and then draft a young kid. Like I don't think, there's very rare enough of history a player in year eight or nine becomes an elite,

especially at that position, really any position. It doesn't happen that often, right? And I don't know if Gino's going to be that guy. I'm not sure if you're Seattle, you can take that chance. You have a young roster at a young quarterback. Use that money you have saved because you have a young roster, bring some veteran players in. And all of a sudden, boom, your contender probably in 2024 with a young quarterback.

To me, Gino doesn't scream, we're going to beat the Niners moving forward. We're going to win the NFC. He's good enough. He's capable, but he's not special. Correct. And I'm not sure that, you know, in this draft, you know, the quarterbacks will obviously, look, evaluating quarterbacks are so different now, right? it's about more armed talent and what they can be

than what they've done in college. It's a way, it's just totally different way that... There's three of them, and I have a strong feeling on all of them. Bryce Young is plug and play tomorrow, but I really worry about his lack of size. Yes. Will Levis is the most talented, but needs to be refined badly.

Sure. And I don't get C.J. Stroud. Yeah, C.J. Shroud's, I feel like he's in the mold of some other Ohio State quarterbacks. But a guy like Anthony Richardson at Florida, like, are you telling me that, you know, seven, eight, nine years ago, you would never draft a guy down in the first round. But you tell me with his physical talent,

I know he's big and moves. You couldn't coach him up for a year like a Josh Allen and in year three he's an MVP candidate. Like he has the physical gifts. Ten years ago, I would have said no chance he makes it. But we're seeing now that, you know, the gifts like if you are physically gifted, coaches in the NFL will find a way to get you better. Not all coaches, but enough.

Well, if Jalen hurts, essentially, BAM is like you can't throw. Yes. He goes to Lincoln Riley second in the heism. Yes. and so the coaches are finding a way now to who unlock the potential of these armed talent quarterbacks in a way that never happened 10, 15 years ago. And so you

can't convince me anymore that a quarterback can't make it. Coaching matters a lot, obviously. But yeah, I mean, any of these guys I think Will Levis and Richardson, to your point, have the physical tools. Bryson's a little bit smaller, but plug and play. And Stroud has the tools, but there's something about even just Ohio State team in general. I just don't like. By the way, you very like McIntyre, you are very much in the gambling space. He didn't like my picks this week. Bears plus nine, Titans

plus three, Colts plus three and a half, Packers minus seven, Raiders minus one and a half. Are there any of those you really like? I took the Titans plus three in my five this week. We almost took the Packers. We didn't do that. The Bears is tough because I just, the Eagles are like a juggernaut. You're just taking a number. I get that at nine, but the Eagles could win this game by like three touchdown, just running the ball. Cowboys next week. I get that, but

the way their offense kind of runs, like they're just a machine. They just hand the ball off and blow holes in the defense and just run the ball down the field. I like watching them play. What was your favorite pick of the week? My favorite, I like the Jets. now the Jets. See, that was my thing.

You can't bet that now. I can't bet that anymore. By the way, Kenny Pickett's not playing. So that games on. Yeah. Like, there's those, the quarterback injuries. The Titans Plus 3 was one of my favorite because I just think they're going to run the ball, which Miami did not do against the Chargers. Bosa is out, Derwin, James out. It's still, and their defensive lines all beat up. And the Chargers are just untrustworthy at all times.

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They're picking off dudes off the street. So all week, I was so pro-Dalice. And then I got talked out of it and the injury report, which late in the season, I don't worry too much about it, September, October, but you get to December, January. Like, I go to the injury report on the Titans Chargers, like, you know, every six hours. This was a stayaway game for me. I think Dallas wins, but I think it's really, really close. Remember, Eagles next week.

Look ahead. Jags right now, the data tells you. and Greg Cosell said this yesterday. The Jags offense in the last month has been big boy offense. I do worry because they're young. They just come off a big win. Can they handle it? Did they get a little ahead of themselves?

This was a stayaway game for me. It's $100,000 Fox bet they're offering. Yeah, I mean, you just got to, you know, again, Jags beat Tennessee by 14, lost to Detroit by 26. I know. Beat Baltimore by one. Lost to Kansas City did not cover. I mean, they're just alternating good and bad.

Like they're still finding their way. Exactly. Yeah, be careful with that one, ladies and germs. J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Let's start by continuing to pat ourselves on the back for calling the Brock Purdy Niners last night.

Nice W for San Fran on the road. Brock, 217 yards, two tutties. Look at this one. How old kiddle I could have thrown that pass. Goodness and Kittle just dancing around this pathetic. Seattle Secondary. After the game, Kyle Shanahan, big praise for his young quarterback. He's definitely the most poised rookie I've ever had. He's been like that since he's gone here.

From what I hear about him in college, I think he was very similar, you know, just starting as a freshman. And I mean, he's been great. And he was poised all week. Even him being unsure of whether he'd be able to go or not. You know, I think that was uneasy for him because he didn't know what to expect until he got in the game. under our circumstances. We don't have any other options. So this is important to remember.

You know, Kyler Murray starts one year at Oklahoma, goes to the NFL. This kid started three years in high school and four years in college. So think of all the in-game snaps he had. So when he goes to San Francisco, this kid has had far more snaps than like a Trey Lance if he was helping.

I mean, so this kid's seven years of quarterbacking, he was in a very good league in Arizona, Gatorade player of the year. So he started in a very competitive high school league. Then he goes to the wild crazy, throw it 45 times a game, Big 12. This kid's got a lot of snaps. Now, he may have a ceiling, but I mean, Mack Jones started one year and came in and had a very good first year. Now, we may find his ceiling in three weeks, but in terms of get the offense quickly, he obviously, they're calling the exact same game they did first.

Garoppolo. He did have the one dropped interception, which was a terrible throw. Last week he got a break on an official's call, so those are picks in the NFL playoffs. You never want to go overboard, but I'll just say this. Pertie looks capable. This guy can take, can he just

ride the running game, healthy offensive line, and that defense, to at least the NFC championship? I would take him in any playoff game in any place except at Philadelphia, and I think it would be close. Yeah. You go in a minute. Minnesota with Brock Purdy, you're feeling confident.

Oh, you're winning the game. I mean, you hope Debo Samuel's back. But you're winning that game. I think so as well. If I have Debo, McCaffrey and that defense for the Vikings, Purdy's winning that game. Yeah. Vikings slip sliding down the tubes. Next up, Dallas Cowboys, they're in Jacksonville. Big matchup.

Jags are just 5 and 8, but man, the steam behind this team. Everybody loves Trevor Lawrence and his great numbers. Dallas coach Mike McCarthy said it'll be a challenge to slow down Trevor Lawrence. Being a dual threat, you know, for, you know, the type of athlete he is as a 6-6 quarterback. I mean, I've always been intrigued with that. But, you know, his ability to play from in the pocket and out of the pocket is, I would say, exceptional. I think just like anything, you know, young quarterbacks when they go through coordinator changes, you know, that's definitely, I think, a lot bigger challenge than people want to recognize.

So, and a point I'm making, you can see him really starting to come into his own, you know, I think obviously Doug Peterson in the offense that they run the multiple personnel, multiple concepts. So I think he's definitely playing his best football, you know, this past month of his pro career. Fun game. Fun game. It's one of the better games on the slate. Yeah.

It's the loss to the Lions inexplicable two weeks ago. Like they got their doors blown off by Detroit. Well, Detroit's defense in that game, if you remember, they got pressure on Trevor. So Detroit's defense, week two to now, it's better. Adrian Hutchinson's becoming a real problem. He's really good. He and Sauce Gardner are like really good players, elite now. Just file away.

Remember what I kind of said. Like, listen, McCarthy, if he loses that first playoff game, Doc Scott struggles. This game's kind of interesting here. Against the Jacks. I was all in on Dallas. Remember a couple weeks ago? I was like, let's the team to watch.

So I think Philadelphia, not that they're not going to. but if the Jags beat Dallas, because you know Philadelphia is going to play well in Philadelphia. That's going to be the game of the week on Fox. Dallas and Philadelphia. Oh, yeah. I think Christmas Eve, the executives were saying. Yeah, it's going to get one of the biggest regular season ratings in years. So this game for Dallas is tough because players, Mike is already talking about the Eagles.

He's already jabbering about him. So there are guys in that locker room that are not taking the Jags seriously. that's when you get in trouble in this league. Houston Texans. Didn't take him seriously. Jags are significantly more talented and better at quarterback than Houston. And now you're playing them there. I like McCarthy. This is tough.

All right, let's just move on. Final story, Mike Tomlin. Colin, he's coached 15 straight seasons. I don't know if you know this. Crazy fact. Never had a losing record in Pittsburgh. It's kind of crazy. Pretty impressive.

That's the longest streak by any head coach in NFL history. to extend it, the 5 and 8 Steelers would have to avoid a loss for Tomlin to have his first losing season. Now, reports just came out. Kenny Pickett is doubtful. Not totally ruled out. Apparently, he's like a partial participant in practice. Remember, his second concussion in five weeks.

You don't need to rush the kid back. So, it's not a lock that Trubisky starts, Colin. Mason Rudolph taking a lot of snaps this week. Oh, good hell. I'm out. I'm not touched. Definitely not. Sam Darnold? You can be all right?

Hey, if Sam Darno... You see what I did what I did there? If Sam Darnold wins again and his 3-0, win in Seattle, win in Pittsburgh. And Joe Burrow loses to Tampa. Well, no, no. Oh, sorry, sorry, Tampa loses to Joe Burrow. We're all talking about Baker getting a bridge job.

With this defense, which you called about a month ago, Carolina's pretty interesting roster. Yeah. J.C. Horn, that cornerback is real nice. Burns. They got real players. And I think their weapons are a little underrated. They got some decent receivers. I'm just saying, if Darnold wins again, Baker has a good showing at Lambo, loses but a good showing.

Then the two guys enter the league same time, Baker and Donald, I think absolutely become very attractive two-year bridge quarterbacks out of Houston. Do we overlook this game? Do we need to take Carolina here? Mason Rudolph is starting. Now, this morning, right now the second, yes. I thought yesterday with Kenny Pickett, I'd take Pittsburgh. But like now this morning, yeah, I would take Carolina. What's a watchability interest in this game? Mason Rudolph for Sam Darnold?

None. Not even quarter TV. It's like when you hit last on the remote control and you go back to the other game, that's where this game's going to be located. That's funny. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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The World Cup final coverage begins Sunday at 9 a.m. Eastern on Fox and the Fox Sports app. Numbers have been huge, shocking because of the time differences. Nobody's won back-to-back World Cup since Brazil. Like 52 or something? 62, I think it was. So you have the two best players, arguably messy on the way out, his last World Cup. Mbapapé is, they play together at some. PSG, yes.

Yeah. So both have five goals, both unbelievable talents. One older, one a kid, the emerging star. So this is really the way it should work. So you talk a lot about in March Madness how you like some upsets, but you want the big powers there at the end. Duke, UNC and the final four. This is what you wanted.

This is perfect. I mean, Morocco had a storybook run. Croatia. Croatia had a good run. We get basically the two best players in the world going head to head. So good. Massive countries. What if the NFL playoffs were every four years?

That's how big this is. Let's say the Super Bowl. Who would you like to see that's like a version of Argentina, France, this year in February? Or this coming February. Well, there isn't one. It's different if Burrow played, I think the AFC Championship will feel like this, where it'll be Burrough against Mahomes. And Burroughs, maybe not as raw talented, but he has Mahomes number.

Remember, Mahomes met Josh Allen last year in, I think, the second round. It was crazy. One of the best football games ever. So anyway, it was a funny story this week. I know people like don't trust the media. The media is like any other business. They make mistakes. And, you know, Tom Brady's upset.

there was a report. We thought it was a bigger deal than people discussed, is that that Brady was basically on Saturday night taking players in and saying, forget the coaches, we're going to tweak the game plan. Brady was asked about it and didn't love the question or the situation. He wrote that maybe the coaches were trying to follow along almost like in real time. They learned what changes you made the night before when they get to the stadium. Is that true? No, I have no idea. I mean, anybody could write anything and say whatever they want. So no, yeah. Yeah.

I want to make sure that that didn't sound right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to respond to every. Next question. So obviously it got leaked from somebody else. Is it a teammate who's over him, who's tired of Brady barking? Is it a coach who is tired of getting the blame?

Is it Bruce Ariens who got forced upstairs? Although you kind of think Ariens, if he thought that, would just say it publicly. But Brady and Tampa feels absolutely done. I never thought it was a great man. Tom did better than I thought. I thought they'd be a wild card team, if I recall, was my prediction the first year and they won the Super Bowl. I thought pandemic COVID. There's no way. They're not going to get the practices in. They got to buy late in the year. Seven and five turned it around, went in a run, never lost again. So here's the thing about Brady, though. He is 46 and he didn't have much of a market last time he came out. Remember, in New England, when he left New England, I went and looked it up this morning. morning, he had a passer rating of 88. Today, with solid weapons and worse competition, a worse division, he has a passer rating of 88.

So a lot of people, JMAQ believes the Raiders would be interested. And I, you know, here's the advantage is that I think with Josh McDaniels, whether they keep Derek Carr or get Tom Brady, they're not going to be picking top five. ever again. Because I think Josh McDaniels and Carr next year and Josh McDaniels and Brady next year, they would win a bunch of games. With either one of them, they'd win a bunch of games. So I think the Raiders are in the same situation as the Seahawks. Right now they have the eighth pick. My guess is are going to lose at least two of the next four. They'll be down to six or seven. I think you have those are like Seattle's not going to have a pick this good again. You might as well roll it on a

C. J. Stroud or a Will Levis or a Bryce Young. You might as well. And I think the Raiders are in a similar situation, that you probably have to take a quarterback. Now the question becomes if you take a quarterback, forget Brady, do you just, because Brady has no interest at this point at 46 in helping Will Levis or C.J. Stroud. He has no interest. Derek Carr probably doesn't have a ton of interest, but would be a little more helpful. I mean, you know, Brady wasn't going to help Garapolo when he was closer to his prime. He's certainly not worried about helping a guy now. He wants to win games. So my takeaway with the Raiders is I get, if they lose to the Chiefs, the Niners, maybe you're going to, they beat the Patriot Steelers, they draft about six or seventh.

I get them taking a quarterback. Do they then trade Derek Carr, ask the quarterback to play early and get a first and a second? Derek Carr's absolutely got a market. You're kidding yourself, but you don't think Derek Carr is a market. And I would give up, you know, if I was, if I was, you know, just Houston, would I give up a first round pick for Derek Carr and sign him to a four-year deal? Yeah.

If I thought that was my guy, my scouts liked him, and it worked. I think they're going to go get Bryce Young because that'll sell some tickets. It feels big and big swing. Derek's not as big a swing. But the Brady thing is we've got to remember this. He didn't have a market last time and he's the same quarterback. I mean, he's not, he's certainly not better than he was in New England. And he didn't have much of a market then.

He won't take the most money. But the Raiders are one of the rare teams. They can take Brady, they can get a rookie or they can do car. Very few teams have, and all three are fascinating. Brady's going to win games. cars going to win games but has a lower ceiling. And the young kid you get won't be Bryce Young, but he may have a big ceiling. So how often does it happen that you have three fascinating options at quarterback,

and two of them you know we're going to win some games? Can I ask why you're selling the idea of Garapolo so short? Okay, he's going to have a market. He's Jimmy G. He wins with Shanahan. He's a pro. You don't have to worry about this guy off the field, messing around. All he's got is like a foot injury, Colin.

he's going to be back at the end of the playoffs. You think he's staying in Sanfran? I have this theory with men. Men are more selfish than women, especially men who are professionally driven. Yeah, I would agree with that. Okay, we're all a little bit selfish about because we make good money. I've been told that once or twice, by the way.

So everybody's a little selfish. So I've been told that a few times too, right? And by my wife. And the point being is sometimes you do things to protect your job. job legacy income. So Garapolo's one of those, because he's had injuries, that if you roll the dice on Garapolo and he gets hurt, it's very easy to marginalize the GM who got him and say, you're an idiot. They've been hurt his whole career.

If you whiff on Will Levis, half these guys whiff anyway. If Tom Brady comes in and isn't very good, well, the owner liked him. He sold a bunch of tickets. If you stay with Derek Carr, Derek Carr's. a top 12 quarterback. But Garapolo, it's hard to hang as a young GM in Vegas. It is hard to hang your career on Garapolo. I always said this about when LeBron and Carmelo came out, that Carmelo was going to be a great offensive player. But LeBron was seen as a once in a decade player, mellow just as a great player. It's easy to say now. You had to draft LeBron. You had no choice,

no matter who drafted. Because if you miss. on LeBron, it would ruin your career. You'd be the, you didn't, now Michael Jordan, as good as he was, the Blazers had Clyde Drexler, who was great. So they passed on Jordan. You don't remember the GM who passed. Didn't ruin his career. Correct.

Because they had Drexler. It made sense they went and got somebody. I forget who it was. Sam Booy. Sambooy. That's right, right. So there are these moves that you, that I think men, professional men, you've got to protect your career.

And it sounds selfish. But if I'm a general manager, I can go Brady and not lose my job, car and not lose my job, draft a quarterback and not lose my job. I go Garapolo and he breaks his shoulder in week two. My owner's like, my GM's an idiot. Wait, wait a second. Am I selfish? Well, first of all, we are males.

We are selfish. What happened to yesterday's glass half full call in? All I keep hearing is, you pick up Garapolo and he gets injured. Like, what if he's not injured? They went to the Super Bowl with him at Sanfran. Last year, NFC title game with Garoppolo. This year, they're on track to go to the NFC title game with Garoppolo. I know he's out for a minute, but can we get half, glass half full Colin back?

Like, where's the positivity? You know what? Glass half, Colin was around, got kicked in the, you know what, and he's back to cynical glass half full Colin. Cynic. Colin the cynic. All right. Why am I supporting the Falcons? That is so disrespectful. I'm Mr. Garapolo and he gets hurt again.

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