The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD – HOUR 2 – Bills Aren’t Super Bowl Contenders, Dodgers Are ALL IN

Episode Date: August 7, 2026

Colin discusses if the Bills are Super Bowl contenders Despite a 6 game losing streak the Dodgers are all in this season   Guest: Chris SimmsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chris Sims in a couple of minutes. We were talking about Carson Beck last night and Haynes King, although I think Haynes is probably a backup in the NFL. Maybe not. I watched him play it 20 times in college. He's been in college forever. But Carson Beck looked very poised, and it's the NIL

really helping college football. College football is so much, I think it's more the schemes are better. I think it feels I thought Indiana, Miami looked in a national championship game. It looked more like a pro football game with the sets and the motions and the defensive half zone, half man-to-man coverage, I thought it was really

sophisticated. And I think Carson Beck, six years in college, 43 starts. You know, he is a product of the NIL. He would have come five years ago. He would have been in the NFL. So with Dante Moore, Trinidad Chamliss, those guys now were coming back, 15 more starts in college. I think it benefits the NFL. You get a more prepared rookie quarterback. And I think it benefits college football, which we all love. I think the guy to keep your eye on is Arch Manning. You say, oh, come on. give me a break. First of all, Arch Manning loves college football. If the Jets have the number one pick, they ruin dysfunctional teams ruin quarterbacks.

I got to stay in Texas, Austin, beautiful women, Sark, a lot of money, great American city, Austin, Texas, or go to New York, bad weather. Never forget, Eli Manning, it's like, I'm not going to San Diego. I'm not playing for them. The Manning family's American football royalty. There's no way I'm going to the Jets if I'm Arch Manning. Arizona wouldn't be my first pick, but the Jets, unless maybe Sark goes and coaches the Jets and I'm comfortable. But, I mean, Sark talked about this back in June.

Arch Manning likes college football and is well compensated. I would not be surprised. I think Arch really loves college football. I really do. I think he loves the University of Texas. You know, he does pretty good through Red Island. You know, he's got some pretty good endorsements going right now, which is a credit to him. And obviously, the lineage of the last name and the brand of the University of Texas, all those things coming together.

I know you're saying to yourself, Colin, if he's the number one pick, remember, Texas's schedule, the road games are brutal. They're going to have a couple of losses. They're going to have a couple of losses. This is eight. I mean, look at Indiana's schedule. They could run the table. They got one or two games at USC at home, but it's a, it's a, it's a couple of, you know, really, really comfortable. Look at Notre Dame's schedule. CJ Carr has a lot of doubles. Texas

schedule, brutal. Road schedule, double brutal. And so let's say Arch has some bumps in the road, loses a couple of road games. Dante Moore, you know, best Oregon team in a decade goes undefeated. I could absolutely see Arch going, I'm not going to the Jets. I wouldn't unless you, I mean, the ownership group, the front office. We know. what the NFL dysfunctional teams do to quarterbacks. You know, Sam Darnold last year. Looks like a top 10 quarterback. You thought he was a bust.

A lot of people thought he was a bus. Goes to Carolina. Boy, this isn't working. Oh, gets Kevin O'Connell, gets stability, gets the Seahawks. Oh my God, is he a top eight quarterback in the league, top 10 quarterback? So I don't think it's crazy. I really don't. The world has changed.

Archmanning, if Archmanning came back another year to Texas, he's making $10 million a year. in Austin. I'm not joking. He's making $10 million a year with a friendly press, a coach he loves, and they'll be favored in all but one or two games. Chris Sims, eight years in the NFL, like Carson Beck, a third rounder, is joining. You may think I'm crazy, but, you know, sometimes the world changes, Chris, and when offensive interior linemen are making half a million dollars, it's like, what is Arch? I mean, do you think, let's say Texas, you know Texas, schedule's tough. And they get bumped around a little bit.

They finish, they win a game or two in the playoff. They don't win. Is it possible that Arch goes, I love this place? You know what? I don't want to go to Arizona. I don't want to go to the Jets. Do you think it's possible? I do.

I heard everything you said. I think you made a lot of great points. I do. It is a different era that way. You certainly, I mean, you could argue with other quarterbacks that came out in the draft this year and go, wait, you could have gone somewhere and made $5 million. You didn't need to do that. And you're right.

Arch Manning, I think there's two things there. One, yeah, will the situation be right as far as the team that's going to draft him? How does he play this year? And does he feel ready? I think you're right. And I heard what Sark said. I mean, he loves college football. And it's easy to love Austin, Texas.

You know that too. And the other point you made earlier, you know, the college starts matter. You're seeing that in the NFL, right? I mean, the last time we saw Anthony Richardson, what we were talking about? Oh, he's only played 11 games. I don't know if it would be ready in the NFL. here we are in year four. We're still talking about the same thing with them. So yeah, it's very important. And I think he'll make the right decision there as far as evaluating

the year, see where he's at, see the situation of the draft. But I don't think it's crazy to think that he could come back one more year and get more experience and collect a big paycheck and go for a national championship, you know, two years from now. I'm not a personnel guy. I think Haynes King is probably a very good backup in the NFL. When you watch Carson Beck, is he a starter to you eventually? It's borderline. It is. He was great last night.

You could tell you, again, you said all the right things there. All the years in college football, playing pro-style football, really in Georgia and Miami. You could see he's well-schooled in that department. He's getting coached really well by Michael Flore, who's a little bit of an offensive genius himself. So he can make all the throws. But within all that last night, good decisions, accurate throws, right? There wasn't, there's not wow throws. No.

And that's where I'm going to come back with Carson. Beck. I look at him almost like Davis Mills of the Houston Texans to go, maybe he could be a starter, but he's definitely going to be one of the best backups in football. And I think that's kind of where I am with Carson Beck. So, you know, it's really interesting. I was watching Mike LaFleur, and I had tied done on yesterday. Tyler used to work at the Green Bay, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel cover the Packers and the Buffalo News cover in the bills. So I bring him on, he is really tied to Aaron Rogers, Mike McCarthy, Green Bay Buffalo. And I said, last hour, I said, Matt LaFleur is on the coolest hot seat in league history.

Like, nobody, there's not pickets outside the games. But here's what happens in the NFL, Chris, and you know this. You get a reputation. And the reputation is Ben Johnson's aggressive. Kyle Shanan's aggressive. McVeigh's aggressive. Dan Campbell's aggressive. And Matt LeFlewer, smart.

88% of the time his teams take the lead and they can't hold it. And Ben Johnson takes a shot at him and he doesn't fire back. And we're getting to a point with Matt LaFleur where you know this. Coaches have to pull a lot of levers. Smart get you a lead. Tough, get you the win. What if this division now is probably the best coach division in football? If they miss the playoffs, is he in trouble?

Well, I think you'll hear a lot of comments. conversation around it, right? And I know what you're saying. Perception becomes reality in the NFL. But man, I just look at it and go, one, hey, finding really good head coaches is not that easy. Yeah, I think if they missed the playoffs with the team they have right there, he's going to be under tremendous scrutiny. But at the same time, you know, I think we're a little quick in like putting LaFleur there. I mean, yeah, they dropped the ball a little bit. You could say in some ways. He took over an incredibly hard situation. He took over Aaron Rogers, right? He was mad. and all of that. He made him an MVP.

Then the front office drafted Jordan Love. And I don't know if Matt LaFleur knew exactly that's what was going to happen. So he had a deal with that issue. He handled that awesomely. So they go to the NFC championship game. They lose in the divisional round at home to the 49ers. Disappointing. Then they missed the playoffs all together in Rogers last year.

But then they exceed expectations. The next year where Jordan Love, who comes on hot at the end of the year. And they upset the Cowboys. You're the number two seat in the NFC playoffs. and they have the 49ers on the rope in the divisional playoff game, the year they go to play the Kansas City Chiefs. Then they have two wildcard game years in a row where they lose. And all of a sudden we go, man, I don't know.

How good is Matt LaFleur? And I just got to go, I don't know. So I think it's like premature, in my opinion. I think a lot of him, there's been a lot going on there. They don't have an owner that necessarily always makes the big, they don't make big moves all the time and they're not aggressive. So there's some things that work against them. But I don't think you're wrong.

and that that will be the talk. I just don't think that, you know, I would put him on the hot seat. At least that's my opinion, Colin. All right, Josh Allen's got a new coach. He's got a new stadium. He's married. He's got a new kid.

There's a lot of new. They don't have the young 25 and under town of Seattle, the Rams, the Patriots, the Texans. They do not. So where are you on the window? People talk about windows closing. I don't know if Allen's will be ever closed in his prime, but do you kind of feel?

like they don't have a lot of good young talent defense has to be rebuilt rookie head coach where are you on buffalo well i you you you kind of say some things that i say a lot i mean one they're always it's like john elway in the 80s this is the comparison i make they're always going to be in the window because the guy is so great that we or errin rogers in the mid 2000s when we sometimes put the the packers in the super bowl window and i go i don't know if those are super bowl teams it's just one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen so we go oh we think they're in the window. I've been one for a long time here to go,

Buffalo is not a Super Bowl team. They're not to me. They have a Super Bowl first ballot Hall of Fame superstar quarterback that I think fools us. But yeah, I mean, again, I think when you think about it at a base level, if I go on the street and go down New York City and go, hey, you know, who's the best player

in Buffalo's defense? I think most people go, I'm not sure. Right. So your point, exactly what you're saying. The offensive side of the ball, yeah, James Cook in the running game of along definitely and that's a good thing but there's been lack of weapons in the past game up there Josh allen hasn't had a number one receiver really till early on and step on dig's uh tenure there so DJ Moore adds some explosiveness to them but I'm a little down on buffalo I don't see it

with their roster to go for me to go I think they're a Super Bowl team I think they're a playoff team but as you know there's a difference between a team you put in the Super Bowl window and the playoff window and I just don't think they're that I think we put them there because the guy is one of the freakiest players we've ever seen in the history of the sport. Okay, I'm going to throw a theory out to you. I said it yesterday on the show, and it could be totally wrong. Cut it up. I have no problem.

Sean McVeigh's grandfather was a general manager. He coaches like a GM. He has no problem moving off guys the minute they turn. Jalen Ramsey, Todd Gurley, Cooper Cup, he, Jared Goff. He thinks like a general manager. Kyle Shanahan's dad was a coach. Coaches love players who reward them. The Niners have gotten into this space where they're old,

they're beat up, they're brittle, they're expensive. I mean, Brandon Ayuk would not be on the Rams roster still. He would not. They would have moved off that two years ago. And I think what's happening is that the Rams, in nine years with McVay, one losing season, they get ahead of problems. And Kyle is overly loyal.

to players who are smart and have rewarded them. I am down this year. I feel about the Niners like you do Buffalo. Where are you on Shanahan and San Francisco? I had this exact conversation yesterday with my co-host, Mike Floria, who I do pro football talk with in the morning on Peacock. And kind of, again, you and me are thinking a lot of like today. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

But I'm with you and that I don't look at the, I don't look at the, the 49ers is a Super Bowl team. I don't. I mean, I just don't wait. Offensive lines not as special as it used to be. We got receivers that are all old. I don't really know if Mike Evans fits the way Brock Purdy plays. Christian Kirk is older guy who's had injury issues as well. We got, you know, Ricky Pearsall done for the year at receiver. Christian McCaffrey definitely lost a step last year, averaging 3.9 yards for carry and not having a run over 20 yards until the last game of the regular season. George Kittles coming off an Achilles tear.

Nick Bosa's always hurt. Fred Warner's coming off injury. So I'm with you. Like there are another team that I would go, yeah, maybe they've held on to some older superstars and they've been a damn good team that way and they went to two Super Bowls so I can understand that.

But yeah, it's coming back to bite them a little bit. And they are a little bit of an older team that way. And you look at it and go where the big time play is going to come from. So I have the same thoughts about Buffalo and going, I think the 49ers are in the playoff, conversation, but I don't look at the roster and the team and go during the Super Bowl conversation. I think we put them there at times because of the coach. We go, man, Shanahan's awesome. So the team's kind of good. So we put them in the Super Bowl window, just like we do with Josh

Allen and Buffalo. But I tend to agree with you there, Colin. Okay. I ask you a final question. Chris Sims joining us that you know your college football. You study these quarterbacks. You played college and pro football at the position. And everybody's kind of saying, hey, our is the guy. And my take is my favorite is Trinidad Chambliss, but I think he's too small. I admire to me a Dak Prescott, a little more athletic, but I don't know if he's going to get drafted in the lottery because he is small. But if I have NFL people are so split on Julian San, they're not as split on Dante Moore. Is there a quarterback? And maybe it's arts manning. Is there a quarterback you look at and you think, boy, it's going to be hard for him to

fall out of Chris Sims number one, number two pick category. Who is your guy? Yeah, no, it's interesting. There's a lot of talent in this class. And, you know, Julian Sane's really good, but maybe lacks that wow factor like we talk about at times with quarterback. That's where I think the NFL evaluators look at and go, hey, he's got great accuracy. He's got a pretty good arm, but he's not the biggest guy in the world. And I don't know if he's worthy of a top 10 pick or a first round pick that way. We'll have to see this year. So I understand that. Arch has some elite skills. We know that. his struggles last year were just inconsistency throwing the football.

But as we saw at the end of the year, I mean, he's got a pretty strong arm. And of course, he's an elite athlete to go along with that. So I look at that. Dante Moore has an elite arm. He can really step on the gas. But I also go, let's not forget about Lenora Sellers, who I think's really damn good. I think Jaden Mayaba out in USC. Yeah, he's big, he's strong.

He throws it however he wants all over the field. He's an athlete. he and then I'm just going to say one other one that don't forget about this guy he got hurt last year and it messed up his year John Mateer at Oklahoma has elite elite talent now he's a little wild at time and need to rain him in like woo wee horsey hold on a second but he's got some unreal athletic ability and an explosive arm column and I know he impressed everybody at the manning cam because everybody was blown away by his skills yeah CJ car at Notre Dame and he's a Oh, sorry.

Yes, C.J. Car's the man. No doubt about it. He's going to be a guy that's going to be in that conversation. I forgot to put him in there. He deserves to be in that group of guys there, too. Yeah. Hey, buddy. It's great seeing you. Hope your summer's nice. It's been good, man. It's coming into O.N. quickly. But, you know, it's good. It's football's here. And that's what I'm excited about because I was kind of getting bored with life. There's only so much, you know, you can do it every time. Good seeing you. Good seeing you as well, man. Be good. Thanks for having me. All right, Chris Sims. Yeah, CJ Carr. Julian San, what the NFL guys I talk to always say is, and I've said this for a year,

this is why I've always defended Kyler Murray. Most really high-end quarterbacks, there is one wow. Sometimes like Josh Allen, there's multiple, Caleb Williams, there's multiple Mahomes, but there's like a, wow. With Julian, I don't see that. I see competency. Kyler Murray, his elusiveness, I mean, his accuracy moving is like, wow, it's like Russell Wilson plus.

So, and that NFC North, Green Bay is offensively, they've got all sorts of skill. Kraft is coming back at Tide End. They got all sorts of it. Minnesota, Justin Jefferson. Kyler Marie's going to eat. Great offensive coach.

I think Detroit's roster's top four in the league. Chicago's offensive roster is like Luther Burden. Loveland now have exploded. They are big time playmakers. Who do you like in that division, by the way, John? That's a good question. I mean, you've kind of convinced me with your pick on the playoff team in Dan Campbell.

I think I'm Detroit wins at Bears wildcard. I just think the Bears still have a lot of defensive question marks. Same. I mean, you know, they draft what's his name from Oregon, the safety. Kobe Bryant got hurt. And Jalen Johnson kind of fell off once he got injured, so can he bounce back? Because their D-line's not great, so they were going to have to be a. DB kind of led defense.

But now we've got some question marks with the defense. It's probably a toss-up between Chicago and Detroit. But, you know, Green Bay, all my life, whenever you count them out, all of a sudden they're seven and four, you know, right in the mix. Yeah, I think I'm going to go, Lions win it, Bears, and then I think Green Bay and Minnesota, I think Kyna Murray's going to surprise people. I really do.

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podcasts. So you all know the Dodgers have been. a wreck since July 31st. They have the worst record in baseball, the most home runs allowed, the second most runs allowed, and the worst ERA. Now, a lot of that is they face the hottest team in baseball, the Red Sox, who just don't lose anymore. And then they face the Cubs who have elevated their pitching staff during the trade deadline. And the Cubs now are a legitimate World Series contender. I didn't think they were before the deadline, but they've added arms. They probably are now. Jeff Passon's a very respected baseball guy. It's fascinating that he was

talking about this. He's talked, there's a lot of markets in baseball. There's the free agency market. There's the off-season trade market. There's the international free agency. None of those markets to acquire talent is more inflated than the trade deadline market. Basically, it's a suckers paradise. It's the suckers overspend. So why did the Dodgers give up three prospects for Terrick Scouble? Because their analytic model is telling them, don't do it. And the Dodgers, more than anybody, are driven by analytics. But as Jeff Passon says, of all the packages and possibilities that you know are going to fail, it's called negative, expected value when you make a trade. The worst is the trade deadline. It's no man's land,

suckers paradise. Yet, any qualms about that by the Dodgers were decidedly outweighed by by the Dodger front office in their quest to become the first National League team ever to win three straight world series. So the Dodgers know they're probably not going to get value out of this. But they also know, as we've discussed for the last two weeks, they're old, they're increasingly brittle, they are tied to some long-term contracts, they are going to struggle to get out of. They got six more years of Mookie Betts. In his last two years, he is trending this way. down. So, you know, the Dodgers are like, we're just going to go for it. And it's because Jeff Bezos,

Amazon, everybody knows Jeff Bezos, right. He always talks about this. He says, you owe yourself risk that people overvalue the negativity toward failure. You make a move, it fails. Nobody ate you. you're okay. If you're smart person, you work hard, you're going to be okay. People, though, the Milwaukee Bucks did this for four years. Oh, Janus, we can't move. Well, then you're getting, you're getting 50 cents on the dollar by the time you move him to Miami.

You're getting no stars back. Tyler Hero, that's your star? I like him. But he's like a B. So it's like the Dodgers, you're just saying, listen, we know analytically this isn't great. This is a sucker's paradise. We're just going to go for it.

And that's what I've always said about sports. I totally respect that. They're just going to go for it. I mean, when the Warriors went heavy after LeBron, they didn't need a 42-year-old with Steph Curry and Drayma, but they're like, this got me fun. We're going to go for it. We're all in on LeBron.

Totally respect that. The Dodgers, though, as I said, this is not hoarding players. It doesn't make analytic sense. You know, it's another pitcher. And Scoobel's not a guy that's going to give you eight and two-thirds. I mean, he's as likely to go six in their bullpen right now. You cross your fingers. A lot of these good teams have a little shaky bullpins.

So here's Dave Roberts after losing their six straight game and being swept by the Cubs. We're looking forward. We got these guys this series, and they put it on us pretty good right before the break. A week ago, it looked a lot different. And another week from now, it could look even more different. So you just got to kind of put your head down and play baseball. You still got to get good pitching. You got to play good defense.

You got to get timely hitting. But yeah, I mean, the goal was to win. And we've lost six straight. We got to flush it. Yeah, I mean, you can utilize analytics. We always say man-aletics. They're kind of manning up. They're like, guys, we're old.

This thing ain't, we can see the cliff. We can see the cliff coming. We're going to go for it. They use analytics. The Dodgers. aren't beholden to analytics. That's what I respect. I said this about the Celtics last couple of years.

They are too beholden to the three-point shot. Like, guys, get a basket. The Knicks were not a great three-point shooting team. When they took them, they hit them. But the Knicks were not beholden to analytics. It's like, we need a basket. Give it to Jalen Brunson. We need to stop.

Put OG on him. Like the Dodgers, it takes a lot of guts to go, guys, we're not going to be beholden to these things. I don't care. We got to go for it. Because I do think this idea that Dodgers, you know, when the Yankees won three straight World Series, they went 12 and 1 in the World Series. The sport was lobsided.

The Dodgers honestly got every freaking break in the world in Game 7 against Toronto. They got outplayed by Toronto. Those margins for the Dodgers last year were thin. Their bullpen was a wreck until the playoffs. It was a wreck. And this team, you can see, I watched, I went to one of the games and I watched all three with the Cubs. They don't have the energy. They look like a team that has gone through two long playoff years.

They look old and they don't have a lot of juice right now. And they're going all in. John Middlough with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. You know, the talk of the town where you live is Caleb Williams. And obviously last year he took a massive step.

But he also still takes some heat for his accuracy. is 58% completion percentage ranked 32nd in the NFL. Look at this video. He's at practice, just nailing every throw. You know, confidence, it shows you with young players, I don't care what you do in any industry is a very powerful thing. He did it through his play and obviously through the words through Ben Johnson. But if you go back a year ago, Colin, he did a similar drill.

It went pretty viral. And everyone throughout the country was making. fun of them. And then at the end, he like, storn. You remember this? Yep. So. He missed the whole, yeah, he got ticked off. By the way, have you seen Caleb Williams at the podium yet this year? Dude is yoked. He like, he lost like eight to ten pounds. He looks cut. And I'm guilty of this too. We talk a lot about coaching like footwork, arm slot. Sometimes it's just, hey, believe in me. And I think that first year with Iber flus, the coaches all getting fired, that thinks, I don't care if you're Joe Montana or paid manning, you would lose a little confidence.

And Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams deserves a lot of credit for obviously making the plays down the stretch of some of these games. But he feels, I've seen some clips of his press conference, feels very sure of himself. And he's always been a little cocky and confident. Well, first of all, here's what I love about Caleb. So, and I watched every college start, because as you know, I'm a USC honk, won't, whatever you want to call it, you know, Homer. So when he was at USC, there were two criticisms.

One, he could be moody. Absolutely true. Started pouting against Oregon State road game on the sidelines. I mean, and I'm saying this is somebody I know his dad, I like him a lot. He could be a little moody. He is not. He has grown. Okay.

The second thing was kind of erratic. Okay, it looks like he's improved. Last year, remember, he would hold the ball too long as a rookie trying to make big plays. Ben Johnson got him out of that. So what he's showing you is he listens, he's coachable, he's got self-awareness. That's the stuff that quarterbacks don't get credit for. He's like, man, I got to look in the mirror. I can't be as moody.

And USC loved him, but it was one of those things where he'd never failed at any level. And at USC, it's like, ooh, we're struggling here. He's gotten out of the moodiness. He's very positive on the sidelines. He trailed in a lot of games late last year, did not affect his play. So the self-awareness, he's grown emotionally. he's lost weight. I mean, again, that's, it's not like he was heavy.

He said he lost like 10 to 15 pounds. He was in good shape before. I saw a clip recently on the internet of Troy Aikman talking about Jimmy Johnson and alluding to the fact that he was a psychology major in college and he used it to his advantage to motivate different guys. I don't know what Ben Johnson's major was in North Carolina, but I think he is pretty good at pressing buttons with his guys

because the way he's, you know, Luther Burton was a red flag guy coming out of college. and the way he's built him up. Caleb in a different category, but that's a situation that some coaches might not have handled perfectly. And it feels like Ben Johnson, as a human, as a communicator, is just really talented at dealing with these guys. Speaking of players and quarterbacks, Daniel Jones, by all the reports are saying and coming out that he has looked very, very sharp

in Colts training camp. It's only nine months removed from tearing his Achilles. But if you remember, he also broke his leg. Shane Steichen said, quote, he's on fire right now. Colin, is this one of the greatest enigmas in the history of the league? I mean, he's made a couple hundred million dollars. Yeah. He's had one good stretch where he was leading the greatest offense we'd ever seen through 10 games.

I don't even know what to make. If someone goes, what's your opinion on Daniel Jones? Well, it's hard to even know. You just never know what's going to happen. I think he's gotten one break. He got Brian Dayball, and now he's got Stuyken. So he's had better than average offensive coaches to guide him. I don't think he's a guy talented enough to have defensive coaches or guys that don't

fit with him. Stuyken's great. Remember Justin Herbert's rookie year with Stuyken? He broke every rookie quarterback record. So he's had better than average offensive coaches. I think he's bigger and more athletic. I always said he's a bigger, stronger, Alex Smith. You can win playoff games with Alex.

Alex Smith. I think he's a bigger, thicker, a little bit more athletic, Alex Smith. I think there's a ceiling. I don't think he's the most natural fluid thrower of the football. He can be a little mechanical. But he's a big strong guy. He went to Duke. He's no dummy. And I think Stuyken makes the best out of what. That's why I always knew Anthony Richardson wasn't work. Stuyken's like, I can't do anything. It's like, well, that's a pretty good indication. If Kyle can't work with Trey Lance, it's not going to work. If Stuyken can't work with Anthony Richardson, it's not going to work. So I think

I would say Alex Smith Plus is what he is. Yeah, and if you wanted to defend his time in New York, you'd be like, well, their O line was terrible. Terrible. They had Seekwan, who got hurt a couple times when he was playing with. The wide receivers, you know, neighbors hadn't quite showed up yet early. This offense, I mean, they just

draft Tyler Warren a year ago. He's a massive target. They got Alec Pierce. They got Jonathan Taylor. They got a good offensive line. Yeah. They got a lot to work with. I don't know if you saw this, but Purdue football, they haven't beat Indiana in a couple of years. Obviously, since Signetti got there, it has not been close. But yesterday, the new boilermaker athletic director, Tommy McClendon, fired a shot at the rival school. Take a listen.

Every recruit, every current student athlete will hear this message repeatedly. We are here to win championships. If you don't want to win championships, go to Indiana. Yeah. He doesn't watch college football, apparently. Can I read you something, Colin? Signetti got there a couple years ago. In 2024, Indiana beat Purdue, Purdue, 36 to nothing.

Last year, Colin, they took it easy on them. 56 to 3. I'm not a math major, but if you add that up, that's a lot to a little. So, I mean, I don't, you know, Jerry Tiller and Drew Brees ain't exactly walking through that door right now from Purdue. I saw that and I'm like, that's so embarrassing. It's one of those things that you're kind of, you know, it's one thing if you take over the AD at Texas or Ohio State, you're pretty, you're pretty confident things are going to work out, big picture. These type jobs, I do you think you've got to be careful, you get worked up, you know what? You know, you had a couple cups of coffee that morning and you say something that you might not be able to live down.

You know, it's funny is I didn't know that much about Signetti. I'd heard of him. I knew he was on like Sabin's staff. It's really funny. When the NIL started, you know, very early in the process, I had talked to an athletic director who said, you know, keep your eye on like the bander built to the world. The Northwesterns, they have a lot of rich alumni. So just keep your eyes on these schools. And one of the AD said, you know, Purdue is like an engineering powerhouse.

Georgia Tech and Purdue goes, keep your eyes on Purdue. Yeah, I'm still watching. I saw Drew Breeze. They had a long list of quarterbacks going back to Len Dawson,

Drew Burris, Kyle Orton. Jim Everett. Yeah, Jim Everett. He basically said for a long period of time, it was like if you wanted to be an NFL quarterback or an astronaut, you went to Purdue. I mean, to pretty good academic school.

Like Indiana, the problem is now Indiana is basically Ohio State or Michigan in football and they're a basketball school at heart like Purdue So it's Matt Yeah I mean Purdue's got a great basketball program Big Dog Glenn Robinson Yep John with the news

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I was watching Bob Costas. He was talking about we're going to have a lockout. We're going to have a lockout. He's very tied in to Manfred and Major League Baseball. So if anybody would know, it would be Costas. But this thing is predetermined. We're going to have a lockout. I'm watching sold out Wrigley this week.

The Red Sox are on fire. Brewer's games are sold out. What if the Milwaukee Brewers win the World Series? What if they meet Tampa? Tampa's second and batting average. They can go toe to toe with anybody in the American League. The American League's down this year. Tampa could absolutely win the American League.

Absolutely. What if Tampa makes the World Series against Milwaukee? We're going to have a lockout? Oh, the small market teams are in the World Series. I mean, so everybody's got this thing predetermined. And my take is, I'm watching Millwall. right now. Where's the hole? Where's the hole for Tampa? I mean, the Yankees are totally home run and power hitting reliant. They're not a great defensive team. They didn't address their

bullpen. I mean, their starting pitching is good when healthy, very good, but they've been kind of banged up at the plate. I mean, the Yankees are good. They're not great. They're not a great athletic team. They added another bat, but that's, you know, a lot of that's to compensate for the guys that have been banged up. So they're not good in the back end. They won't, they'll struggle holding leads. Tampa's better than them right now. I don't think that's even arguable. And Milwaukee, which has a series coming up at Dodgers Stadium against the Dodgers, Milwaukee's the best team in baseball, strengthen the back end of their rotation and their bullpen. And I'm like, what if Milwaukee makes the World Series? What are you going to do then?

You keep telling me the small payrolls can't compete. Oh, that's right. Tampa first place, Milwaukee first place, the Guardians, the Chicago White Sox. I'm seeing all these Arizona, by the way. Arizona's good. Arizona's got 61 wins right now. So I don't know. I just look at everybody's got this thing predetermined. The Yankees in a three-year stretch went 12 and 1 in the World Series. I mean, there were some criticism that the sport was lopsided.

It didn't reach this level. I don't know. This week in baseball, this week I watched a lot of baseball, and I saw sold-out stadiums in crows. incredible energy, unbelievable juice. And right now, all the teams, you have this great combination of all the teams you'd want to be good. Dodgers, Red Sox, Braves, Cubs, Yankees, all good. Those are huge brands.

And also Houston's a very good brand. Houston's good. And then you've got these small market stories like the White Sox are not a small market, but a small payroll. Milwaukee's the best team in baseball. The raise are number two in batting average and number one with runners in scoring position. So they're a tremendously clutch offensive team in Tampa. So in my lifetime, when rich guys are rolling, they find a way to keep the money flowing. And I have a hard time thinking these rich guys are going to sit down and be like, yeah, yeah, the faucet is on.

Let's stop. And, you know, the other thing is when you listen to a lot of the players, they're making more money than they've. ever made. I don't know. I mean, it's almost every, it's like college football when everybody said, oh, this NIL, oh, I'm really worried about it. I don't know. Let's see. Notre Dame's great. Miami's great. George is really good. Texas is good. Michigan, Ohio State. Seems to me all the teams you want to win. If USC could get their act together, you're like, all the teams you'd want, Oregon's still good. Penn State, I think's going to be one of the more under, I think Penn State's actually going to be pretty good this year.

I think they're, they settled. People think they settled on a coach. Matt Campbell's a great coach. He just like, he was loyal to Iowa State. They just pried him away. So it's like when all the teams that you'd want to win or winning and you have just

enough medium to small teams winning, what, what's the, I mean, ratings up, attendance up. I mean, if you could pick six teams to win in baseball, you'd be like Braves, Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, Dodgers, Cubs, about the only brand that's not winning that's big is the San Francisco Giants. They had a stretch for about seven, eight years. They were great.

And they just, whatever's, you know, I'm not close enough to it to know. But they just, I mean, the manager's a college guy. They've missed on some picks. They haven't retained certain guys. Other than that, all the teams you'd want to win. And just enough small market Milwaukee stories to keep it interesting. So there you go. Robert May is from the athletic, great pod as well.

We'll be joining us. He's been bouncing around camps. He's a tremendous listen. If you've never heard Robert before, he's based in Chicago. We bring him in studio often, but he's bouncing around to the camps. And I think, John, I think if I just texted the Chicago Bears, I think I'm going to drop by and take the notepad and make an impression on the Cubs on the Bears on Sunday afternoon. I could see by like Saturday morning you get a text from the powers that be there,

be like, swing by a little early. You can have breakfast in Ben's office. And you could maybe have some plays ready, some of personnel ideas, you know, maybe scour some rosters to polls, give him a couple ideas for some practice squad additions. I was in a restaurant like six months ago, and I was in this restaurant. And then I heard like a week later,

somebody with the Cubs said, you know, Ben Johnson saw you in the restaurant. Ben Johnson's not going to get up and come over to me. And then I was like, yeah, but I can't go over to him because everybody in the damn restaurants bothering the coach. But apparently, Ben and I were in a space together, and we just didn't know it. Well, when I was rubbing elbows with everyone at the combine, you know, Ben could be a little intimidating. He's not Mr. Come and talk to me. So I said, you know, I got to break the ice somehow.

You had mentioned that. I had dropped that. And he laughed. He said he thought he saw you as well. He was in a great mood. He said, next time we got to break some bread. you know, have one of those, you know, out here on the West Coast, the stakes double the price.

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