The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 2 - Brock Purdy has talent

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

Greg Cosell from NFL Films joins the show to breakdown Brock Purdy's play and why people need to start recognizing his talentSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thanks for making us part of your day. Got to tell you, the story's now percolating. I'm reading one from Jeff. Howe of the athletic on Belichick. People of Tom Landry got fired, Andy Reid got fired. Belichick's not untouchable. You know, we haven't talked about the game we like best this week in the NFL.

You know, usually there's one that pops up, Colin. Like the Patriot game? I don't know. Is it time? Zero points, three points a week before that? Yeah. So the athletic, Jeff Howe, quote, there's a school of thought that suggests Bill Belichick has earned the right to

go out on his own accord, the architect of the greatest dynasty in NFL history, can coach as long as he wants. Robert Kraft doesn't subscribe to it. By the way, you're foolish in any industry unless you own the business to think that way. Everybody's replaceable. And Belichick, by the way, his brand, Belichick now would cut Belichick. That's his brand, moving off players a year early. Belichick wouldn't respect a coach who didn't cut Belichick.

the coach. In a pivoting to offense NFL, he looks like a dinosaur. He cut Asante Samuel on Christmas. Stop with the heartstring stuff. You can move off Bill Belichick. Landry and Andy Reid fired. The longer he coaches, there is an inescapable, unescapable, whatever it is, truth. He doesn't win big without Brady. Look at the graphic we put on television. He is a below 500 coach without Tommy. And he's great and winning rings with him. This is not a Joe Giff. Hebs story, three Super Bowls, three different quarterbacks, the mastermind of all of them. He can't pivot off Tom, which makes us realize Tom was much better than we thought, but I'm not giving you a legacy pass when your brand always was cut a guy early, not late.

Kraft isn't demanding they be great and win Super Bowls. How about just demanding they're not boring and dull and bad? And offensively, and this is something if you paid attention that's been bad for seven or eight years. It's why Tommy left. Tommy wouldn't have left if he had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin in tow. No way. He was screaming at his receivers. Get open. Six, seven, eight, nine drafts in a row. Outside of Gronk couldn't hit on offensive skill people. Even Julian Edelman, Oa's respectful, sees the issue. I think he needs a little help on the offensive side. I mean, you look at the defensive picks. They all look pretty good. I mean,

they always come out and they they perform and I hate talking about coach like this but we have whiffed on a lot of offensive skill position players you know starting from I don't want to call guys out but there are three four receivers when I was playing that we got in top rounds you're looking and I was like what's going on here that's not a first rounder I don't I don't know what's going on so I think he would be the first to tell you that he's he's had some screw ups he's a very accountable guy. And I do think that, you know, that they probably do need a little more help on the offensive side of scouting.

Mike Vrable's name has been suggested. He'd probably be a frontrunner, very respected in Foxborough. But I suggested this at the beginning of last year. Get out of here with this legacy stuff. Like, Belichick's entire brand was cut early, not late. He cut Asante Samuel on Christmas. Asante said on the phone before Belichick hung up, Merry Christmas Bill. You can fire Bill in February.

It's not the end of the world. Landry, Andy Reid, it happens. Greg Kosel, 44 years NFL films. Not saying it will, but it wouldn't be outrageous. So young people in any industry improve. They even say I learned this years ago with my kids. Young kids learn languages better than older people. I don't know exactly the brain chemistry, but sometimes we have to say, listen, I see something.

It's not working, but I see something. Whereas Mac Jones, I don't see anything. I do look at Justin Fields and go, there's a lot of wow there. Can he just sustain it week after week? So he's played better. Greg, what does the tape say on Justin? Very interesting because the last two weeks he's clearly played better. Against Denver, obviously not a very good defense.

But the Bears did a lot of play action movement with fields. Play action boot got him out of the pocket. They ran half field reads. He was very, very effective. This past game, which was last Thursday night against the commanders, it was more playing in the pocket. And he did some really good things, reading it out. The touchdown that we just saw to Moore was a really good example of that,

the one for about 20 yards into the left void, the left corner void. So he played better from the pocket. You know, you're seeing incremental improvement. It'll be very interesting this week, Colin. You never know what you're going to get from a Bryant Florida's defense. It could be high pressure. It could be high frequency blitz. He could back off and play zone.

You just don't know. So this is going to be a really intriguing challenge for Justin Fields. But there has been incremental improvement in his game. And as you've discussed many times, and we've discussed, he's a talented kid. Oh, yeah. He can throw the ball really well. He's 6-3-2-30. He's got great movement.

You just have to put him in a situation where he can see it well and see it better, and then he can play with a little more confidence. I know most people did not get up early on the West Coast and watch the Bills Jags. I did. And listen, I've always been a Trevor Lawrence guy. I love the kid. I thought he made a couple of throws. You could hear the whip from here in London.

Yeah. I think he's playing. Last couple of weeks, I think he's playing really well. I think he had, like Lamar Jackson, his receivers dropping footballs. What's the tape say on Trevor Lawrence? Yeah, I thought in this particular game, he played exceptionally well, and I think he's played well all season. He has not been the problem with the Jaguars when the offense has sputtered.

I thought he was outstanding on third down in this game. He was nine for 10 for 114 yards, and the key thing was eight of those nine completions resulted in first downs. And believe it or not, I think his arms gotten a little juicier over the last year. and I don't know if that's a comfort level. I don't know if that's a fundamental technique thing because they had to work on that last year when Doug Peterson and staff got there. They had a work on his lower body technique in his drop, his set, and his delivery. And maybe that's the reason.

But the ball came out with some really good juice this week. He sees things well. He knows where to go with the football. To be honest with you, I thought in that game, I thought it was high-level quarterback play on both sides. I watched the tape. And I thought it was high-level quarterback play. play on both sides, but there's no question Trevor Lawrence is playing really, really well.

Yeah, by the way, Josh Allen, any time you have a London game or a Thursday night game, one team never looks right. And I thought Buffalo was just out of sync. I thought Josh was fine. The tape said he was fine. Yep. Tape said he was really good.

You know, of course, they want to try to run the football and they could not do it in this game. Their run game really lacked any kind of synchronicity to it at all. It just didn't look right. But Allen played really, really well. Look, when he threw that deep ball, the interception by Williams, that was on Diggs. Diggs has to make that catch, or at least make sure it's not an interception. That was a well-thrown ball, touch underthrown. But Diggs has to go up and make

that catch. He's your number one receiver. But he made some really, really good throws, played extremely well. Like I said, it was high-level quarterback play. That's what the tape said. It was high-level quarterback play on both sides. But there's no question Trevor Lawrence is becoming a fun watch. So I said this earlier this week. I think the Lions or the Cowboys is that we look at the coach, Mike McCarthy and Dan Campbell, and there's still some people pushing back. We think Dak is great, but Jared Goff's actually a better distributor of the football. We talk about the great cowboy O'Line.

Detroit's is probably better. We talk about a great pass rusher, Micah. Hutchinson's also unbelievable. And I look at them and I think they're basically the Cowboys with better players and less hype. I mean, Jared Goff and Ben Johnson, we know coordinators matter. This is about as well as they ever played, isn't it? Oh, and you're 100% right. I mean, you watch the Lions tape and it is really a joy to watch because the way they run their route concepts, the spacing of the route concepts, the way they present clear, defined reads and

throws for Jared Goff. You and I have discussed Goff many times. You know, he's from the Bay Area, as you know, he's a pretty thrower with the football. You know, he's a much better thrower than Dak Prescott to begin with, just in terms of pure throwing of the football. And then you see the way that offense is structured and scheme and design. And it's really a thing of beauty at times. The Cowboys, their offense, you know, again, on tape, it's a little bit of a struggle. We've talked about Dak. At this point in his career, he's a ball distributor and an executor. He needs to do that better than he's doing it now. But that offense is not. not as well-schemed as the Lions offense.

It doesn't present him with the kinds of reads and throws that the Lions present Gough. By the way, Cooper Cup comes back. There are times I think they almost depend on Cooper Cup too much. I wouldn't be surprised. They just let Van Jefferson go. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't make an offer for a Jerry Judy or one of the Vikings guys if the Vikings are moving off this season. I watch Cup and I'm like, as good as Pooka Nakua is, there are times it looks like,

staffers paying attention to nobody else on the entire team. What does the film say on that? Yeah, well, Nuku was not as good a receiver as Cup. Obviously, he did extremely well, but Cup's special in terms of his route running ability, his understanding of pace and tempo, his understanding of how at the top of his route, Sam, to stick his foot in the ground and get a corner to react a certain way. He did that beautifully against Darius Slay, I believe, on his 39 yodder, where he beat Slay. It was just a beautiful route at the top of his route, and you can move him all throughout the formation. He's not just a slot.

Yeah, it's always hard to know with the quarterback, Colin. I mean, we can sort of make that speculative judgment that a quarterback relies on a receiver too much. But Cup is just so good, and he just seems to be open. He just seems to be available. He makes himself available. It'll be interesting to see going forward because their run game's been a little up and down, you know, and they need a run game.

They quite, honestly, they need a run game. And their own line is just not good. enough to sustain a pass game if you're going to need Stafford to drop back 40 times. So, you know, it's interesting. Lamar Jackson came into this league and he was so dynamic as a runner that he's never been kind of given the respect he deserves as a thrower. And I think he's gotten better and better at it. He's gotten stronger, a little more patient.

Again, we go back to young people grow. They make big leaps from 21 to 23, 23 to 23 to 25. six years old. I watch Lamar. When I watch him, I'm like, I think he's, I think he's the best he's ever been. His receivers can't catch. What does the film say? I got to tell you, you know, people might look at his numbers and the score of that game without watching the tape. And I watched that tape in great detail because I'm kind of fascinated with the new offense, what it's going to look like. But I thought the score did not reflect it at all. But I thought Jackson played at a high level within the structure of the past game. He played from the pocket with

efficiency. He read coverage. He delivered the ball to the right receiver at the right time with the right kind of throw. You know, those were legit drops. Those were not drops where, you know, we say, oh, the receiver got a hand on it. He should catch it. Those were legit drops with perfect throws. They should have scored four or five touchdowns in that game. He played really at a high, high level in that game. And I think they're ironing out some of their route concepts. You know, I spoke about the spacing with the lions. I think that's what you're. I think that's, what Todd Monkin's trying to do with his route concepts, but it's not quite working yet. Receivers are a little too close together. It's just not quite in sync the way it will be

over time. But Lamar played really, really well. He was fun to watch. You know, I said it this week that if you look at what's working in the NFL, Clever is McDaniels, Kyle, McVeigh, some of the stuff Baltimore is doing and will continue to do. Clever is, as well, working. I watched Dallas and I, it just, it's kind of a boring watch. I mean, I know that doesn't matter, but San Francisco intrigues me. Miami, the Rams. Yeah. I can't ever predict what they're doing. The motion, the multiple sets. What does the film say about DAC and this offense? Yeah, well, we just mentioned that. They're, they're a tough offense to watch. And I'm just speaking from film and I'm going to be very curious to see what they do going forward.

Because, you know, in some ways, and again, this is just my interpretation of it, some might disagree. I feel like with the way the NFL is moving and you just hit upon it, that they're a little old school. Yes. Yes. By the way, if you have unbelievably great talent, sure, can that work? Because you and I both know there's 10 ways to play.

I mean, there's not one way to play, but it has to reflect what you have in terms of talent. So we'll see going forward. But I love what you said about those other teams. I mean, you talk about the use of motion. And keep in mind, when you use motion and you have a ton of formation variation, that puts a burden on your quarterback as well. We all think, oh, that makes it hard for the defense.

But don't forget, the quarterback has to call all those plays in the huddle. There's a lot of moving parts. There's a lot of different formation looks. The quarterback has to understand all that. And again, you're anticipating a certain response from the defense when you do certain things, but you might not get that exact response, Colin, and the quarterback within a second has to understand that there's a difference there. And that's why someone like Purdy, and we can get into him in a moment if you like,

but someone like Purdy is so much better than people think, because as we all do, we just look at physical traits. And there's no question he doesn't have a hose. But I got to tell you the other thing, too, as we get more into it, is his ball's coming out this year with a little more juice. Yeah. Yeah, no, let's talk, Brock Purdy, because I said yesterday he's good. I don't know if he's very good, but some of these throws are big time throws.

That's correct. And let's understand something else what I just said. You know, coordinators, coaches, they work, as you know, 16, 17 hours a day putting in their game plans. That's what they do. And for the most part, they expected to be executed as scheme. Now, there's always going to be a few plays in a game. Defense wins, and it doesn't work out the way you want it to work out. But it's the job of the quarterback to execute what is being done, okay, and what is being installed.

Brat Purdy is executing what is being installed on a play-to-play, snap-to-snap, quarter-to-quarter, game-after-game level at a really high level of execution. That's what you want your quarterback to do. We can sit in debate the traits, but I tell you what, you know what's a trait? A trait is being able within this two to three seconds that you have when you take the snap drop back and deliver the ball. To be able to do that correctly, snap after snap, that's a trait. Well, you know, it's interesting. If you go back the last four years, Joe Burrow has struggled in September and early October, even the Super Bowl year.

And my takeaway is he's had two major surgeries and a calf injury. And for whatever reasons, it could be a coincidence. He's scuffed. I watched that game against Arizona, and I'm like, okay, here goes Joe Burrow. That's what I said. He made the throws. He went over the top. He stepped into it.

I don't know. I looked at Cincinnati and I'm like, I put him in my top 10 at the end this week. I put him 10. I'm like, folks, I've seen this story before. Bingle struggle, Burroughs banged up. I don't know. I watched last week and I thought they're back to be in the Bengals. That was my take.

Yeah, he looked like what you've come to expect, Borough. to look like, right? That's basically what we're saying. And there was a very rhythmic feel to their past game. Now, I think coaching helped a lot, too, because early in the game, they gave him basic greed, simple stuff, which is really smart, so he could hit that back football could come out. The offensive line would not be an issue, so he didn't have to worry about that because the offensive line is still not great. And then he settled in the game really well. And when he moves, I always feel like his movement, Colin, isn't really secondary action movement. It's kind of calculated pocket movement.

Even though he might leave the pocket a little bit, he's not running around like a Josh Allen or even a Mahomes. It just looks very composed and calculated. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah, and I think Joe, I think Joe, maybe it's dad's a coach. He is the rare athlete. He's better on third down. I always said he had a little Tony Romo.

He can get at times a little loose and fun and play. You know, he's going to experiment with Jamar Chay. But if it's third and four, and he's got to throw a football, I'm not sure the league has a more accurate deliver of the football up that sideline. I think he's brilliant. Yeah. And he just knows where to go. That's the other thing. He knows where to go.

You know, when you mentioned the long touchdown to Chase, that's going to be our play. Yeah. Yeah, that's our play this week. So let's take a look because one of the things about this play, as we look at this long touchdown, is a lot of people need to understand that quarterbacks don't have to read five guys on given plays. You know, it's what's called functional knowledge. You see him in the gun here, okay? Now, what you're going to get here is you're going to get Erwin on the boundary side of the field, run a little curl or sit route, okay? You're going to have Chase with a reduced split.

That's important. He's going to run the deep over route. So now, basically, Burrough is going to be reading that safety. That's what he needs to look at. Is that safety going to sit on Irwin's curl route, or is he going to get depth and try to get underneath the over route, the deep over route by Chase. Well, you see him sit. Look at his body language. You see him sit on Irwin's curl route. Now, there's the deep over route by Chase that we spoke about. Now, the positioning of Chase with the other safety, the other safety's not going to be a factor on this

throw. He's running a deep over away from him. So all Borough has to do is see what that boundary safety does, and he sat. So now he knows he can go over the top. So he basically had to read one defender on this given play, and you can see from this angle that that's where he's looking, and then he goes over the top. He actually threw it a little too far inside, and Chase made an unbelievable catch. He probably should have taken him across the field a little more, but just to give people the sense that quarterbacks don't have to read five, six different players. It's all functional knowledge based on the route concept. Greg CoSell, as always, magic. We're all smarter. Great. Seeing you again.

Great, Colin, thanks. Really appreciate it. You bet. Yeah. So Brock Purdy's good. The film says Brock Purdy's good. Again, very good. We have nothing, we have no knowledge of no Kyle Shanahan. It's a little like Tua. I've seen, with Tua, I've seen him with Brian Flores. I've seen him being taken out. And now Mike McDaniel. So with Tua, I've got another coach, another system, and he's okay. And he's great with this. I suspect Pertie's a little like Tua with the system and the Tula. With the system and the Taurus. talent, he's great. If he gave him a defensive coach, took away some weapons, Purdy'd be okay. Tua was very okay, pre-McDaniel. So again, Herbert overcomes the 32nd ranked O-line. Herbert overcomes a bad coach.

That's not what Tua and Purdy are, in my opinion. So we get Purdy, I agree. But the Burrell one is a little more difficult, Colin. Do you think he's officially back? Yes, absolutely. He torched a terrible Arizona secondary. It got shredded by Daniel Jones. And basically, everyone else.

they faced. Yes. Okay, because that's going to impact your Seattle Cincinnati pick. That, to me, is becoming a fascinating game because I respect a bunch of guys I talk to about gambling. Who do they like? And they're divided on it. Usually that's a walk away from me, but I feel like I'm pot committed to one side. It's the Seattle side. And I'm a Northwest kid heading there this weekend. I should be all over Seattle. But the Cincinnati I watch is the Cincinnati that has marched. But that's just one, that's just one game against a terrible Arizona defense. American Idol, eight seconds. That's a star. By the way, Cincinnati, he had a pick six in there.

So they did only have 27. You think Seattle's going to let Jamar Chase go off like that? They're just going to let him go. They're not going to maybe double team him? Jamar Chase is better than any of their corners. You were in love with the cornerback last year, Wollin, who was incredible. Yeah, so am I. And what about Witherspoon?

He's very good. How many blitzes for Jamal Adams? 20? Just make Joe Burrow run? Like, that's all. Adams is coming off the conunds. Sounds like you're talking yourself into the Seahawks sign. No, I just, it's tough, man. This is what I love about bouncing stuff off.

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I'm sure you saw this over the weekend. Stefan Diggs, during that loss of the Jags in London, digs kind of lost his mind on the sideline, busting up a tablet, cursing up a storm. Yeah. Heated, you know, they look bad. in the loss. Josh Allen, though, defending his wide receiver.

I know a lot of people are throwing different ideas of what he was mad at on the sideline. You know, he was mad at himself for running the wrong release on a route, you know? So he's a competitor. He's a fiery competitor. I'm tired of hearing all this nonsense from people because there's a lot of guys in the league

that have that same fire that don't get talked about. But, you know, he's a lot of our juice on the sideline, you know, making sure that the offense staying up and as energized as possible, and we feed off of that. I like that. I like passion. You like Diggs or Allen's response? Well, I like the response to it.

I saw that. My takeaway was, oh, boy. And then Josh Allen's like, no, he ran the wrong route. He was ticked off at himself. I like people who get mad at themselves. I hold themselves accountable. I like that. He's a thing with Dix.

He likes these outbursts. He's very emotional. A lot of passion. Emotion. You've run a company before. Passionate people is what you're trying to find. People that care about it as much as you. You do?

So do you remember the summer when I said the Buffalo Bills window for the Super Bowl was closing? Well, I was going to float this. I don't hear anybody else talking about it because we like to see around corners. Yes, we do. So, you know, Josh Allen got his big deal. You know what his cap hit goes from this year to next year? What? 18 million this year.

Jump to 47 million next year. Go in this year. Very similar to Patrick Mahomes situation when they had to offload. Who was that wide receiver they had to leave? Tyree Kill. Yeah. Josh Allen's cap. hit significant jump. You know who else has a big jump?

Stefan Diggs jumped from 14 to 27. I will go out on a limb. Not worried about being wrong. Diggs is not on the Buffalo Bills next year. I don't think it's crazy. Yeah, I think once you, I mean, listen, the Chiefs had to get rid of Tyree Kill. I think they drafted Kincaid. Looks like a great tight end. I think they'll draft, I think they drafted a receiver this year, I believe. They'll draft another one. Yeah, I don't think that's crazy. And by the way, side-line stuff. It's just noise. I would have no problem with Stefan Diggs. Keep your eye on the Rams. Well, I don't know about the Rams.

I'm thinking quarterbacks on a rookie deal, right? That's where Diggs went from Minnesota to Buffalo when Allen was on the cheap. So if you're C.J. Stroud, hey, Stefan, how you doing, buddy? Come on down. Anthony Richardson, there's good, I'm just telling you. Diggs is going to have a market. I mean, the guy's awesome, right? You like that.

I see that grid. No, I just, McIntyre's on one today. No, I think you're, I think this is, and for the record, this is sort of a, he's kind of a Rani Moss where he doesn't deteriorate a locker room. You get three, four years out of Stefan Diggs, and then over time, maybe he can wear some people out or whatever. But like he's going to be, he's got probably three to four great years left. I'd take him.

Say that about Jim Horball, right? He wears on. Here's another one. New England. If you put Stefan Diggs in New England, you're not paying a quarterback, and they're probably going to draft another quarterback. They have no playmakers. So now all of a sudden, Juju Smith is a two or a three.

Devonte Parker's a three. Then the receiving court feels different. Their problem is. Basically, they have a bunch of number three. starters if it's a baseball term. Patriots have no ace and don't have a two. Stefan Digg solves a lot of problems for New England. And you're not paying Mac, and it looks like you're going to restart the quarterback

clock potentially next year. To me, New England can't draft skill players. Go buy them. Go trade for them. That's not a bad idea. It worked with Randy Moss. Did it not? Well, they had this guy a quarterback named Brady who was decent.

Mac Jones is not in class. Next up, Kellyn Moore and the Chargers. their offense is rolling this year. He did spend five years in Dallas, meaning they face off Monday night in an awesome game. Cowboys safety, Jayron Curse, says he expects both sides to put on a show. I'm pretty sure he wants to go out there and put it on us.

But, you know, you've got to put into perspective of what we just went through on Sunday and how we're jumping at the big to get out there and get our next game on the road so we can go out there and kind of just get this taste out of our mouth. So, you know, I'm pretty sure he's jumping up. that and we're trumping that as well. That's one of the best

Monday night football games going into what I remember. This game is gigantic for the Cowboys. Massive. If Kellyn Moore has them running in circles, Mike McCarthy is officially on the hot seat. We said before the season started,

Mike was on a very precarious hot seat. Oh, that thing is an inferno. If they not only get beat, but it's a clever showcase. As Greg Cosell said the film tells you Dallas's offense is old school. It's dull. Remember

I texted you one of those gifs over the weekend during the Cowboys. GIFs, yeah. I think that's how they pronounce. I don't even know what it's like. Where the guy was sitting in a chair and there's a fire around him. He's like, this is fine. That was during the McCarthy game. By the way, did you see Kittle and the Niners? He told this story about how they were watching

the Lions last Sunday and they did that reverse play and LaPorteur was wide open. And Kittle says, I texted the O.C. And we're like, we got it. We have this play. Why aren't we using it? And they ran it that night. Isn't that great? The Dallas defense pushes up.

They're very aggressive. You know this. The defensive line, the linebackers, everybody gets sucked in. Chargers, Kell and Moore, going to dial up some special stuff? By the way, Layton Vanderesh. Looks like he's injured. Doesn't know if he's going to go. Oh, boy.

That's not good. Chargers, two and a half? I don't think that line's going to be there much longer. Where do you think it's going? I think it's going to the Chargers. How is that? Is Dallas that good? Are we sure?

I, you know, again, I think, I just know this. The Chargers, if Bosa plays, have good pass rushers, and Dallas has shown an inability to play from behind. Go ask the Raiders what Khalil Mack was like. So if the Chargers get out to a 10-0 lead and play from behind with that charger pass rush, that's the feat. Like, you're from Dallas, you've got to score first. You've got to get, Dallas has shown no ability to play from behind.

But Dack, when forced to throw, is an average thrower. He needs a lead or a run game. Dax at his best when it's third and two, second and four, and he can throw. If Dax's third and 11, Dax bad. At this point in his career, he's not a good third and 11 quarterback. Yeah, I like Chargers a lot. Final story, the Houston Astros clinched their spot in the ALCS with a three-two win over the twins last night. Their seventh consecutive trip to the championship series,

Justin Verlander gave a passionate and expletive-filled speech to his team after the dub. Boys, this is one of those seasons, you know, nothing went our way early. We battled through injuries. Yeah. We grinded. I wasn't even here. I'm happy to be back. Seven time.

Seven time. All right. Don't look that, don't take that for granted. On seven, everybody pop these. Say what you want, Dodger fans. They win a lot of big series and big games. What's that look? I'm out on these cheaters.

Come on. Cheating. We call the Patriots cheaters after deflategate all that stuff. Oh, please. I didn't. You never said they were cheaters? By the way, you ever had a glass of wine written it off your taxes, but it really wasn't a right off? The Houston Astros were banging a drum in center field to alert people what the heck's going on.

A lot of flexible morality in America. We need the Yankees to go fencing. Get A-Rod in the front office for the Yates. We need to fix that and knock these guys down. Five years clean and still winning. Maybe they just adjusted their cheating. Maybe a janitor banged into a drama or a garbage can made some noise. A lot of conspiracy theorists on Reddit.

Is our regular Houston sports fan in your ear right now defending these cheating frauds? I'm just saying. Justin Perlain are good guys. Five years clean. Five years clean. They're still winning all these big games. Until the next expose comes out that they're bending the rules. People make little flexible moral mistakes.

Much to do about nothing. Surely, Colin. I think I like the way Houston plays. How about, I'll tell you right now, if you sold me, Houston, Philly's World Series. Oh, my God. Go Phillies, please. Well, I think I would root for Bryce Harper, too. But if you gave me Philly, Bryce Harper and the Phillies and the Bank against Houston and the World Series?

I saw the Braves have their number one guy going tonight, a pitcher. Well, Braves are not going to go down easily. Go Phillies. As your mentor, let's just say, people get flexible. Wait, wait. So you're my mentor and Nixon? How many other mentors? What do you got? Like a school going on here?

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Like, what is this? Apparently nobody else has a. top 10 yet. All right. We'll see. So this is the story. Michigan football head coach Jim Harbaugh is on the verge of signing a lucrative contract extension. They were about ready to run him out a few years ago. It is funny. All the critics of Harbaugh have all, they're all running and hiding now. You can't find anybody on the internet that now is critical of Jim Harbaugh. He now owns Ohio State. I think it's the best team in the country I've seen. P.J. Fleck said last week, he said, I've been in coaching 15 years. That's the best college football team I've ever seen. They do not have a weakness. In fact, the strange part about Harbaugh, the former quarterback, I couldn't figure out for years

is at Michigan, why can't he get a great quarterback? He got Andrew Luck at Stanford. He figured out everywhere. San Diego was first job he had it. He made Kampernick better. What? Why can't he get a quarterback at Michigan? Home with Tom Brady? And he finally did. But I will say this. I think people think NFL jobs are better than head coaching jobs. And I've told people this for years in this little business I do. Local jobs are better than national jobs, unless you're Joe Buck or you're Kevin Burckard, right? Or you're Jim Nance. You're better to be the voice of Michigan football and Michigan basketball, the voice of Oklahoma football and basketball.

If you can get the top job at a network, take that. Michigan football is better than 99% of all jobs in the world. get the lunacy of SEC fans or the unrealistic expectations at Ohio State. You don't have to live in the middle of nowhere. Ann Arbor's got a world-class medical center. It's got arts. It's a cool place to live. It's the cold version of Austin, Texas.

It's a sophisticated small town. Harbaugh's got his dad living right across the street, seeing his grandkids. So this is a great job. People say, what about the Bears and Caleb Williams? In the history of the Bears, they've never been able to get quarterback right. Not once. Name their great quarterbacks. Thanks, they don't have one.

Best receiver ever. They don't have one of those either. It's a defensive culture. They'd probably screw up Caleb Williams. Well, what about Washington? Defensive coach, new ownership. What about Washington? You have to be in a division with Philadelphia.

They're great. My takeaway is Kansas City's the best gig in the NFL. Hunt family, great GM. You got a quarterback in his prime. Andy Reid's not. retiring. That you take. The Chargers have a coach, and now he's winning. Justin Herbert, good GM Tom Telesco, who drafts well, that's fascinating. It dries up real quick. What about Dallas? The owner loves DAC. Dak's now a BB minus quarterback. It's not a great job. I mean, in the NFL,

you have things that you don't have in college. I got no salary cap. I can recruit and land and bring into school three quarterbacks a year. I don't have a crazy impulsive owner. I don't have any of that stuff. I got the NCAA. They're toothless. I mean, what do they really matter? Basically, the NCAA just follows a newspaper reporter who once a decade breaks a story and then they go snoop around and suspend you for a game. They're toothless. So, and I think the NCAA could be going away in football. So I just don't think, I don't think there are five football jobs in the world better than Michigan. And Ohio State's a great job, but you know, they ran John Cooper off. He I was running like 10 games a year.

Michigan will accept you when you have a bad season. I mean, they gave Rich Rod. They almost gave Rich Rod another season. Like, they gave Brady Hoke another season than I would have. Ohio State will run you off if you're going to the Rose Bowl back in the day. And that doesn't make it a bad job, but it doesn't make it as good as there is some lack of lunacy at Michigan where they'll give you an extra year or two. and I think Harbaugh is much more valuable to the college game that he is the NFL game. I just don't think there are many great NFL jobs.

And when they are great, you're an injury to your quarterback away from being a bad job. Mahomes gets hurt out for a year. That job is not the same job because now I've got to pay for Mahomes and I don't get him. So it's just, it does. In college, Michigan gets two four-star quarterbacks. They can both play. One tends to elevate above the other, but they can probably. both play. And there's not a gigantic gap starter to backup. Now, there is with Caleb Williams

or Sodor Sanders to the backup, but most college quarterbacks, even in Michigan. They're better than the backup, but the backup can play. He's a four-star kid, a high school star, who's been in the program two years. So there we are right there. So I think Michigan, Harbaugh, all the critics, crickets, apparently a power outage in the South, a power outage in Columbus, Ohio. Where are all the critics of Harbaugh? Colin, what job do you think it takes more time and energy and probably time away from your family. Coaching NFL or coaching college football? Okay.

Yeah, but you got to remember, Michigan's a brand. I'm not here at Minnesota. I don't have to bang the drum. Hey, we're Michigan. They call you, pick the phone up. It's easier to recruit at Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, USC. Charlie Weiss wasn't a great recruiter. He was landing play.

Paul Hackett bombed at USC. He got Carson Palmer and Troy Polamalo. USC recruits itself about 75% are recruiting at USC. Clay Helton got five-star guys. So Michigan's always had Brady Hoke had talent. He didn't know what to do with it. But Harbaugh took Brady Hoke's talent

and won 10 games year one. Bob Stoops took, there was a guy that a coached at Oklahoma, Blake, I think it was John Blake, a rare Oklahoma miss. I mean, Barry Switzer, Bud Wilkerson, Bob Stoops, Lincoln, Ryan. Brett Venables looks like it's going to work. Everybody works at Oklahoma. They had one coach who didn't work. Bob Stoops took it over, second year won a nattie.

So these big brands, it's hard to recruit, but they do a lot of the lifting for you. Michigan closes a lot of the kid flies up. He goes to a Michigan game in the big house, and he signs. He commits in the locker room after the game. That happens a lot at Michigan. We also know that even though that kid is committing, you've still got to keep recruiting him because people are coming after him. You know, it's sharks in the water all the time.

I do want to ask, you know, Harper's, ball's kind of runs hot in places. Three, four, five years, and then he's out the door. On to the next one. Three, four, five years on to the next one. Yeah. He's been at Michigan for a minute now. He did graduate. I think he graduated from Michigan. Well, I think people like him as they age.

The governor comes down a little bit. I don't think he's quite as intense as he was five years ago. He's got kids. He's got his dad living next door. His wife probably keeps him in his place. I mean, it's a whole different. When you're a young coach trying to become something, it's different than you are a rich veteran coach with something.

Like it's a different ballgame for him. He sees the world differently. His kids matter more. Not that he's not ascending, but he's ascending now within Michigan. He was like San Diego, Stanford, NFL. I feel like Jim's like, yeah, this is probably as good a job. He's a Michigan man. The one that I could see open that I think he would jump at would be the Chargers.

If that job opens up, I think that's a great, great job. You know who else would be calling the Chargers? Not Lincoln Riley. Everybody. Okay. Jim Harbaugh is better than like 95% of applicants. Well, I'm just saying that job's going to have a lot of people lining up. And I think Jim's, I think it may end here in Michigan.

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