The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - Colin's Blazin' 5 NFL picks, thoughts on the Rams loss last night, Julian Edelman

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

Another edition of Colin’s must-hear Blazin’ 5 NFL picks for Week 5 — his top five best bets against the spread. Plus, Super Bowl MVP and Fox Sports NFL analyst Julian Edelman joins ...the show to react to the San Francisco 49ers shocking Thursday Night Football upset over the Los Angeles Rams. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:53 J-MAC, last couple of weeks, been a little turbulent for your picks. I went four and three last week but the Alabama game puts me over the edge college in. I've done some over-unders this year because the audience is doing that. I almost did a prop this week on over-under for a receiver.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I did an over-under on CD lamb catches earlier this year. So the reason I'm people, say, why don't you just make picks? Because that's not what people are doing anymore. People are doing props. They're doing over-unders. And so I've always said audience drives the bus. I watched the percentage of picks people make.
Starting point is 00:03:27 And I've got another over-under. We hit it last week. We told you last week. Take the Patriots. Panthers over. And I got another one this week. So you're ready to go? Let's fire away.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Here's my Blazing 5. Let's blaze it up. Fire it up. It's Collins Blazing 5. Raiders and Colts. I like the Colts at home to win and cover. First of all, they lead the NFL in yards per play. That's a big stat for the wise guy is 6.5.
Starting point is 00:03:56 an incredibly efficient offense that scores on 66% of the drives. O-line gives a run game in Daniel Jones plenty of space. In fact, in two home starts this year, he's completing 71.5% of his throws. The Raiders are beat up, tied for the most giveaways in the league, 22nd ranked defense. They're now missing their left tackle, Colton Miller, who's their best offensive lineman. So I think right now I get a better O'Line significantly,
Starting point is 00:04:24 a better consistent run game. I think the Colts are really, really talented. I've been saying this for years. I think they're going to run away now with this division. 28 to 20 Colts win. It won't feel this close. They win and cover the spread. Cowboys and Jets.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I like the Jets when the numbers plus three. Three of their four losses have come in one-score games, and when Justin Fields plays, they average 27 a game and almost 400 yards. The Cowboys are beat up. players on the injured list. A lot of guys in the secondary in the O line. And it wasn't a good pass blocking unit when they were healthy. They've allowed 30 plus points has Dallas in three straight games, probably the worst defense in the league. They're bad on third down. They're bad on the back end and they're all beat up. And they've also allowed a ton of big plays and Justin
Starting point is 00:05:15 Field with those legs can create those. I think the Jets at home healthier win 2827, Take the points. Broncos at Eagles. I'm taking the hook. Denver plus three and a half is the side I'm on. Sean Payton ranked second in October win percentage in the Super Bowl era behind only John Madden. Both losses for Denver this year have come on game-winning field goals as time expired.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Best team in the league is Denver at getting to the quarterback and protecting the quarterback. Really good offensive line in Denver. and their defense is tied with Seattle. It's only given up 16 a game. I think this roster is outstanding. Eagles have been outgained in all four games. Now you got A.J. Brown drama. The offense is 30th rank.
Starting point is 00:06:05 That means the coordinator does not fit. And they're not getting to the quarterback this year. They've only got five sacks in four games. So this team is kind of not right now working on all cylinders. Maybe if it's a three-point spread, no. but at three and a half, I'm going to take Denver to win close, low-scoring game, 24 to 23. Buccaneers at Seahawks. I like Seattle here.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Second best point differential in the NFL. They're great at home. Second-leased team. They don't beat themselves. Sam Darnold is having himself a year, and he's not as reckless as he used to be. I can like Baker. Baker, though, has nine turnover-worthy plays this year. TFF said that's tied for the most.
Starting point is 00:06:51 in the NFL. And Tampa, it's in too many close games. They make more mistakes. Also, Tampa's got 16 players on the injured list. So Seattle is healthier. They're at home. They're less penalized. I like them here. Tampa's defense has beat up last couple of weeks. Does not feel as dominant. I'm going to take the Seahawks minus the three to win and cover 28 to 23. I like the over 41 and a half. Neither team pressures the quarterback. So Cam Ward and Kyler are going to have time to operate. Cardinals also coming off extra rest. They're at home where there can be feisty and I think they're going to win this game potentially by blowout. Listen, the Titans have faced four pretty good defenses, Broncos, Rams, Colts, Texans. So this is a little bit of a breather. It won't be as dominant. A defense. And again, unrest, Arizona skill people are outstanding. Defense for the defense for the. Titans, not great. Don't get to the quarterback. Their defense doesn't do anything particularly well. The over is 41 and a half. It's a low number. I think we have a blowout on the horizon. Cardinals win at 31.13. Take the over in this game. And with that, Julian Edelman is now joining
Starting point is 00:08:09 us live, Fox Sports Analyst, and we appreciate that on a Friday. So I got to ask you about last night, I can remember this years ago. I always thought fumbles Julian were random. but they were except for the Patriots, which a team that didn't fumble. So I'm watching that game last night, Blake Corrum, Kyron Williams had five fumbles last year. And like ball security,
Starting point is 00:08:33 Matt Stafford had one of the best nights he's had as a pro, and they lose at home, much healthier team. What did New England do all those years? Because after seven or eight years are not fumbling, it's not luck. Did the Patriots just concentrate on it more? Yeah, you know, we used to have a motto, ball securities job security and bill would literally which i'm sure right now north carolina's
Starting point is 00:08:58 here in the same pitch if you carry the ball in your hands you're carrying the fate of the whole organization in your hand from nancy meyers upstairs to the marketing department to the guys in new hampshire that are rooting for the team that's that's how important the ball was and we would start off every day of practice after our warm up we would do a ball security drill where we'd sit there We have, you know, you run down 53 yards and back with the guy in the back, you trying to take the ball out. You'd hold two balls and you have two guys hitting you. We'd do the stumble bum on every third step. You would go down to the ground and try to simulate when you put your hand on the ground, how vulnerable the ball is when you pull it up.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And you're always trying to get three points of contact on the ball with your forearm, the top, and keeping it nudged in. And so we used to talk about it. And when you talk about it, you subconsciously think about it. We would also have cut-ups of that defense that we were playing that specific week, a 30-play cut-up of if they were a ball-hawking team. You know, I vividly remember the Ravens. They'd always come after the ball. And you'd have Chad O'Shea come up there and have 30 plays of plays of the defense
Starting point is 00:10:13 trying to get at the ball may not have been a fumble, but just to show that they have that in their weapons. So we were very conscious about it. I could still remember the three times that I fumbled because it was such an important thing, ball security's job security. So, you know, I've seen Darnold and Baker and Daniel Jones and now Mack Jones be reborn. I was so impressed with him last night. First of all, any time a player gets hurt and stays in the game, I mean, that's something.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Because he's hurting way more than I've ever been hurt in my life. Kenrick Bourne was his go-to guy. What did you make a Mac Jones last night? He played great. I mean, he threw for what, 342 yards, two touchdowns. He's 3-0. This is a heck of a start for the San Francisco 49ers.
Starting point is 00:11:05 They've really had to overcome some adversity. I thought it was really going to hit him hard last night, not having Nick Bose out there, because how were they going to get that closing stop at the end? and they were able to find a way to win the game. Kendrick Bourne and Mack Jones, they clearly have some chemistry from New England. And look, we've seen Mack Jones play good football in New England.
Starting point is 00:11:29 It was never about him playing good football. It was about how he handled success and his body language. And he's obviously matured over these last couple years because he looks like a different player. You can see him on and off the field, how he handles himself with how he spoke at the podium after the game. game. He's been humbled. This game humbles you in some form of fashion, and it varies some guys. And Mac Jones, you know, he's showing that he's resurging from it.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah, accurate, good velocity, back shoulder throws, really impressive. I'm going to get. Yeah, yeah, I want to talk, Drake May, I've got to tell you last couple of weeks, he doesn't make a lot of mistakes. They're not putting a ton on his plate, but he moves well. What are you hearing from Brable in New England on Drake May? Because it looks like they found their guy. Yeah, I think they found a guy that they can think can become the franchise guy. I mean, it's still super early in the evaluation process. Last week or two weeks ago, they turned over the ball five times.
Starting point is 00:12:32 He had a couple fumbles. He's, you know, he's taking care of the ball throwing it. But, you know, he's still got to win these games. And this is a good situation for him now because after the loss, how did he come and show up the next week. They go out and blow out the panthers. They're a great slump busting team to play when you're not playing very well. And he handles them the way you should handle
Starting point is 00:12:52 them. So this is going to be the ultimate test when you've got to go play the big brother in the division who's been, you know, embarrassing the team for the last few years. And it'll be really interesting to see if he could carry over all the success he's had these last couple,
Starting point is 00:13:08 or last week, not taking care of the football, making plays in the red area when, you know, he has to with his legs, not overusing his legs, not getting hit too much, offensive lines playing well. I think that they match up very well against Buffalo, but they're going to have to play a mistake-free game to beat the Buffalo Bills. You can't go in there and turn it over two times, one time. They're going to have to play sound football. And if he can continue that, then you look at Drake, man, you say, this is our guy. But he's still super early. He's shown signs,
Starting point is 00:13:38 but you can still see that Brable is out there, you know, they each challenging him to be a leader. to see more. There's, there's, there's, he's still a baby. He's still a baby. So it's been great to see some of the success he's had. And there's been great situations. Lose a game you should have won, come back, you know, ignite the offense and play a, a mistake-free game the next week against the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Let's see how he rolls into against the Buffalo Bills, because this is the ultimate measuring stick for him. Well, it doesn't happen often, but I've spent the last week defending Aaron Rogers. And my take is he is the lowest-gritted quarterback. according to PFF, and the reason being is he's not throwing the ball down the field. My take is that Aaron, and this happens in real time, realizes his defense has been so dominant in field position and taken the ball away, that Aaron over the course of the game is like, well, what's the point?
Starting point is 00:14:31 If we're running it okay, I'm not throwing the ball down the field. He's developed a relationship with D.K. Metcalfe, who's a great player, but kind of an emotional guy, still very young. And my take is, and it's nothing against PFF or a grading system, but I do think a quarterback, part of his job is over the course of a game. If you're watching your defense, take apart the other team's offense, okay, put away some of the, you know, erase
Starting point is 00:14:55 some of the big swings down the field. And I think Aaron's being conservative might take as no, he's being smart. There's no reason to take big swings. What's your take on his season? I agree with you 1,000%. This is what you signed up for when you wanted Aaron Rogers. There's a guy that's going to get you in the right play.
Starting point is 00:15:14 He's going to take care of the football, play situationally right on third down and in the red area. And that's what he's been doing. He's actually moved around a lot better than he has in the last couple years, too. I mean, two years off the Achilles, he looks great and he can still throw the ball. Aaron Rogers has forgotten more football than probably 70% of these other quarterbacks. And the fact that he can go out and manage the game the way he has shows that.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I mean, it's been really impressive. I think this is one of the biggest surprises of the season. Yeah. And, you know, you look at them, and I think they're only going to get better. Because time on task together, they've only had four weeks. You know, they didn't have a full off season. And good quarter, I remember Tom always used to say, you know, the older he got, he would always say the game gets easier because he knows the answers to the test.
Starting point is 00:16:04 It's if their body can allow them to do it and his body can still allow him to do it. He understands that he doesn't need to take a, big hit on a second and 10 early in the game, just throw the ball away. He's not going to put his team in jeopardy of throwing crazy deep balls and triple coverage because he doesn't have to because like you said, his defense would get him a couple turnovers. He's playing the game the way the Steelers kind of used to play the game with Big Ben when Big Ben was rallying the team.
Starting point is 00:16:32 You know, you'd have one or two big plays, but it was always kind of a muddy game, play to the defense, have a good couple special teams play. the Boswell guy is a great kicker. So he's got a lot of great things going in his favor. I'm super interested to see how he does in these next four weeks. So the Eagles aren't doing anything well offensively, and it's obviously not personnel. So Seriani's not a big scheme guy.
Starting point is 00:16:57 He's more the walk-around CEO, kind of the culture builder. So he's very reliant on his offensive coordinator. When he had Stuyken Super Bowl, he went to Brian Johnson. It didn't work. That he's Kellan Moore, okay, it works. And now he brings in a new guy, it's not as good. So it could be a coordinator thing. But my question to you is, you mostly had the same coordinator.
Starting point is 00:17:21 But from your experience in football, what's the difference between an okay coordinator and a great coordinator? Because Philly, based on their offensive coordinator, has been a different offense through the years. Well, I was fortunate enough to play with two really good offensive coordinators, Billy O'Brien and Josh McDaniels, which they had different wrinkles, but a lot of the same similar values of how they want to call the game. I still think this is early in the season for Kevin Pluto or Kevin Petulow and this offense. I mean, they've only been together for four games. Last year at this point, we thought the Eagles were not going to make the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:18:03 whether they were one and three or two and two. They weren't playing good until that by week came. So I still think that they're trying to figure out their offense what they are in their identity this year. I mean, and that takes a while. I mean, they're still four and oh. They're collecting wins and winning ball games when they're not playing their best. So you can anticipate that they're going to figure out, all right, well, we do these things very well through the first four weeks. We don't do this very well. Let's scrap that.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Let's get to this. Let's try to kill this tendency. and I think that's the part of the season that they're in. I think it's a little too early to say that they're just broken on offense because there's only been four weeks and they have four wins. You know, you have A.J. Brown, who's a talented receiver who can make your plays on the outside. I'd anticipate they'd start moving to him around and scheming them open because it seems like the only route he runs is a nine-yard-stop-stop-rout
Starting point is 00:18:56 on the outside, on third and long when you know it's man coverage. And a lot of these corners are now squatting on it. So, you know, they're taking that away. I think a good offense coordinator, they'll start moving AJ around, trying to get them the ball early to get them happy because you got to keep them happy. I'm still kind of broken on how to like evaluate the Eagles team because last year I thought all the distractions were going to be a lot and they won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:19:22 It seems like they're going down that same road, but they're even better this year than they were through the first four games than last year. So let's just keep on watching this thing out and see how it unfolds. I think they'll continue to get better. So the Chief's offense had been, I mean, like a water pistol. They bring in Xavier Worthy, who's not a number one. He's kind of a speed gadget guy. And they bring him in, and it looks like the best, it looks like the Tyree Kill,
Starting point is 00:19:48 Chief's offense of four or five years ago. And I'm like, well, Worthy's not a number one. He is kind of a gadget guy, but it does illustrate when you bring in an over-the-top player, it opens up stuff for even running backs. give me your experience on that we don't look at worthy as an elite justin jefferson or puka Nakua but it's like just inserting him change the entire offense this reminds me a lot of when we have a guy like philip dorset or brandon lafell and our offense was cooking the most when they would make one or two plays down the field because it's it's it uh it makes the
Starting point is 00:20:29 offense have to defend every blade of grass and that's what speed does i mean it If you look at the Kansas City Chiefs the first four weeks, they were slow on offense, very slow. So then you can condense the middle of the field and the production for all the guys that eat in the middle of the field are going to be harder to get because they don't have anyone that threatens them down, threatens them downfield. And that's what he does. I mean, the speed, all he's got to do is make one play and get behind the defense once. And it changes the whole complexity of how that defense is going to defend them. Because if they don't want to get beat deep, They'd rather have Kansas City go on a 14-play drive
Starting point is 00:21:05 and try to make them lose in a situational battle on third down or in the red area and collect three points. So I think it's a huge addition to get Xavier worthy because the speed, it opens up the offense, and they're going to get even better when they get Rishi Rice back. You know, this could be a scarier team than they were last year. They're going to have more offensive weapons this year once they start getting their guys together.
Starting point is 00:21:29 So I'm excited to watch them in this next four. Finally, you got inducted into the Patriots Hall of Fame. That's pretty cool. I mean, considering your life where you're from, take me there. What was it like? Yeah, it was an absolute unbelievable honor to be on the same stage with, you know, Coach Parcells, Braves, Stanley Morgan, McGuinness, Coach Scar, all the guys, the former inductees. It's just absolute honor.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And, you know, to say back in my rookie year when I was changing positions from quarterback to receiver that I'd be in the Patriots Hall of Fame, which is arguably, you know, a top top one to two, three organization, it's pretty surreal for me. It was an unbelievable honor to have my family there, my little girl, my brother, my sister, my parents, because it's ultimately an award for them, for. for them being in my corner through the highs and the lows. You know, football is such a family sport. There's so many sacrifices you have to go through
Starting point is 00:22:40 if you want to be a competitive professional athlete. And those sacrifices are saying no to, you know, your loved ones and you're really a mercenary and to have people that were in my corner and understanding what I was trying to do in my career, you know, help me get through it. So it was an unbelievable day. Thanks to the Kraft family.
Starting point is 00:23:00 had an awesome production and you know it was a pretty cool surreal moment julian edelman fox nfl kickoff sundays on fox it's great seeing you man on fox great seeing you too guys yeah he joined us on fs one regularly and he's on fox on sundays plus games with names is his highly entertaining podcast blazing five is in the books i will watch games without a cause without a nervous reaction i feel very strongly about my picks. J. Mack has his an hour and a half. And man alive. It's scary because I like your picks a lot, Colin.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I do. That Denver pick. I'm on them. I don't know. This could be your first five and all of the season. I don't know about the total. The Titans just got shut out. Okay, the Titans are garbage. We know that.
Starting point is 00:23:52 They cannot move the football. But you know, Calhant's fighting for his job. This is the first mediocre defense the Titans have played. So you know, and Arizona's on extra rest. And we like Arizona's offense. And Conner's not healthy, so they'll have to throw the ball. And I think even if the Titans get crushed, they'll throw the ball back door it. Cam Ward will keep chucking.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Quick note on the Bucks, I'm waiting for the injury report, but Bucky Irving, the stud running back, hasn't practiced this week. So Tampa could be without Mike Evans and Bucky Irving against a top three defense in the league in Seattle. Not great for the Bucks. Yep. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours. Today, seven days a week within the IHeart Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm originally calling it One of the early names of our band Before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down Yes I have a very different memory of this We were talking about a thing A bit for the podcast For people could call in and say hey Jonas
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Starting point is 00:28:29 up on Bill Belichick. Really interesting story. A coach calls him out and think you're going to like that J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. We've been watching this one all week, Colin. That's the Ravens Injuries. It is bleak.
Starting point is 00:28:50 John Harbaugh just spoke to the media. Kyle Hamilton now added to the list of guys not practicing. I mean, goodness gracious. You see that line, Texans minus two and a half. Colin, it was Ravens minus nine and a half last week before week four games. Okay, Ravens are way. better, but they're down a billion guys. Here's Mark Andrews talking about the mindset of the team through the injuries. Everybody here in this organization is we're all fighters. We've been through
Starting point is 00:29:18 adversity. We know what that looks like. And there's no quit in this group. And I'm excited to show the world that the beautiful thing is that we've got a lot of fighters in this group and, you know, a deep organization with a ton of players that are going to step up and make plays. And I just got a lot of faith and trust in the guys. So, this, I mean, the screen, this is almost unfathomable. You know, this is like, I don't know, what, 90% of these guys are pro bowlers or that level? But the Niners last night, same situation, and they beat McVeigh and Stafford. Well, they had Mack Jones and Kyle Shanahan, and now you're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Cooper Rush, come on. I got CJ Stri. I mean, Cooper Rush, you had a winning record. When Mike McCarthy used Cooper Cush for a month, Cooper Rush had a winning record. Cooper Rush had a winning record. Yeah, that's Mike McCarthy. Really good offensive coach. I don't know if Baltimore can match that.
Starting point is 00:30:11 You do have a good point, obviously, that the Niners are beat up and they still won. But, Colin, it's the defense that scares me. Roquan Smith, he calls all the plays defensively. Okay, then your back end, Kyle Hamilton, they have no pass rush, no Van Nooy, your guy who comes on the show. Their top cornerback, Wiggins, is out.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Humphrey, who couldn't guard me out of the slot right now. He's down. I mean, they are in rough shape. I just, on principle, I got to go with the Texans here under three. Do you have the stomach to take Baltimore? I don't have the stomach. I just, when I watched the Niners last night, I think they're in worse shape than Baltimore. And, I mean, Mac Jones, nobody thought.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Mac Jones is now three and no. Mac Jones was dead and buried in this league. Like, worse than Daniel Jones at least won a playoff game. Mac Jones, the Jaguars had him. He's a hometown kid. They're like, not interested. So, I mean, my takeaway on this is I wouldn't count the Ravens out. I watched the Niners last night.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I wouldn't count them out. I'll just say Mac Jones, you know, got to the playoffs as a rookie with the Patriots. I know they got smoked like 47-7 or whatever by the bills. But he at least got to the playoffs. I mean, Cooper Rush, four-game sample size. He's like a – so Lamar runs around does all these awesome things. Cooper's a statue. He's not mobile.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I think you have to totally change your offense, don't you? Well, but they have some good pieces. They have good pieces. Maybe it's a Derek Henry game. I don't know. I'm back in Willie Anderson in this one. So let's go to the next story. And that's the great Chargers commanders game out here at SoFi Sunday.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I will be in the building for that one. I don't feel great about the Chargers. Colin, big news here. Terry McLaurin has not played or practiced. He will not make the trip out west for the commanders. And their offense, I know they got I think 27 on the Falcons with Marietta. But I just, I didn't see it totally with Washington. There were totally a different team without McLaurin.
Starting point is 00:32:02 stretching the field. Debo Samuel, obviously underneath is good. And for the Chargers, Joe Alt is doubtful. I'm just, I'm staying away from Charger games. Yeah, that's probably smart. I mean, again, love the coach, love the quarterback, love some of the defensive players. But if you don't, it's like Minnesota now. I'm staying away from Minnesota, Cleveland. If you're missing two and three starters in the offensive line, you know, if your run game works, it works, but it's stay away time for me. On Minnesota and the Chargers, I'm just staying away from those teams. Let me ask you about so running quarterbacks have given the Chargers problems. Jackson Dart last week was the latest.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Do you think Jaden Daniels coming off a knee injury and two weeks out is going to be running at all? I don't, he came back. Remember last year he was injured again? We're not going Glass Joe Burrow on him, but he was banged up last year and didn't run for a bit and it kind of took away his superpower, which is the Josh Allen Lamar. I could just make things happen. I'm rooting Chargers here, obviously.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I think the Chargers get it done. kind of a big swing game for them. You don't want to lose two games to Washington and the Giants back to back. Because now the Chiefs are playing the Jags, and if they win that, they're creeping back in the division. Here comes Denver, which played very well against Cincinnati, and I think he has a chance to beat
Starting point is 00:33:15 Philadelphia. So this division's going to go down to the last two or three weeks. Yeah, probably will. All right, let's go to baseball for the final story Colin. There was some controversy in the Cubs Padres game. If you're watching on the screen, you could see that pitch was definitely low to Xander Bogartz clearly out of the strike zone.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Bogartz loses his mind. The Padres were irate. Here's Bogart's on the terrible call after the game. We talk about it now. It's a ball. And yeah, it's just messed up the whole game.
Starting point is 00:33:47 You know what I mean? Can't go back in time and talking about it now. I won't change anything. So it was bad. And thank God for ABS next year. You know, because it's just terrible. I know you're deep.
Starting point is 00:33:59 in the baseball right now. I'm just curious where you are on this system. Like, why test it in spring training and not use it in the postseason? Well, I mean, the pitch clock was, I remember years ago being on a flight, and I sat next to a, the Richmond minor league baseball general manager. And they were using the pitch clock already in the minor leagues for a couple years. So they wanted to, you know, the pitch clock was dramatic. Traditionalists hated it. Pitchers, the union.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Everybody, you know, people were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So they used it in the minor league for a couple years. Well, now this system, you're going to get rid of the, you know, you look at that system is the traditionalists, the umpires don't like it, so you want to get things right. By the way, they used it in the All-Star game, super efficient, super quick, and it works. So they're just, I have no problem with baseball doing due diligence here. Baseball for the last three years has made multiple changes.
Starting point is 00:34:49 They've often gone to them. One of the great advantages that baseball has over every other sport, they have a minor league system. And they can experiment in the minor leagues and then bring it, into the show. So it's, you know, it's funny about baseball. Baseball fans will say, well, football only got one game a week. We're at a big disadvantage. The advantage of baseball, it's every night. So you get so emotionally invested. Like with baseball, I'm not going to sit and watch beginning to end regular season games. I'll see highlights. I'll see three innings.
Starting point is 00:35:24 But like last night, I could all day, I'm sitting around waiting to watch the Yankees and Reds. socks. And I think the emotion in here in Chicago, it's like nobody was on the train. Everybody was home watching the Cubs listening on radio or at Wrigley Field. So I mean, my take is baseball's made a lot of changes
Starting point is 00:35:42 over the last three years and they've nailed all of them. So they use the minor league system. They tried it in the All-Star game. Next year we'll have it. And I'm going to back baseball. I think they've had a hell of a three-year run. So this is similar to in the NFL where you can challenge plays and in
Starting point is 00:35:58 NBA, they have this new challenge system with the Hawkeye camera. But the Padres were so ticked off. There's video of their reaction at the end of the game. Like, I mean, they were losing their minds going after the officials and the umpires. Like here they are leaving. And look at the Padres. They kind of got to be held back from going after the umpires. And listen, man, I understand the frustration.
Starting point is 00:36:19 It's the ninth inning. And everyone watching with five million people watching can see that it was out of the strike zone. Like, don't you want them to get it right? It's just disappointing. Yeah, I mean, there's, I think most umpires are great. I, you know, I was at the Illinois USC game this weekend and two different officials. Three actually came up to me and thanked me. They said, hey, I appreciate you always.
Starting point is 00:36:42 You have a reputation as you, you will defend officials. And my take is, I didn't grow up with all these 37 replays. Think about this. In a football stadium in 2025 or in a baseball park in 2025. There's only one person who only sees the play once, the umpire or the official. They get it once in real speed. So everybody crushes these guys. These games go fast.
Starting point is 00:37:11 The guys are now throwing 104. It's just harder to officiate. And then you're subject to criticism because you have fumbles last night happening in the Rams Niners game at the bottom of a pile. And you can see it. And so I think we all, I don't like crushing a. officials, because first of all, you get fans worked up and they already get tons of abuse. The first baseball game I ever went to was a kid in the kingdom. They were booing the umpires, so they already get death threats and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And I think last year, um, you just last year, Fox, during the Super Bowl last year, think about this. Fox used 240 cameras. The first Super Bowl had like four. We used 240 cameras. But doesn't that apply to your work smarter, not hard? like let's just bring on the computers bring on the robots bring on the cameras let's get it right i i would over listen the NFL doesn't have full-time officials if you could just use cameras and chips
Starting point is 00:38:11 i wouldn't i wouldn't football yeah i don't think you'd ever do that with pass and it's down i mean i i i'm but i think people beat up the officials and it's like guys it's a hard job that's gotten a lot harder colin you work eight master yeah the padres worked what eight months for this they get to the ninth inning they're down three one runners is scoring you get this crap? Like I would be pissed. I would be ticked off. No, I get it. J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. Very, very interesting article. So Bill Belichick at Carolina has been nothing short of a disaster. Like, they're not competitive. They're getting blown out by average teams. I don't think any of us thought this. I mean, not all of us thought they were going to roll the, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:56 roll through the schedule. I thought they would lose to Clemson. but this one coach has an explanation next be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to us. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:39:36 So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 00:39:56 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. we could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people. who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife-Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
Starting point is 00:41:38 The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jen can win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me.
Starting point is 00:42:04 And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Big Noon is back in Ann Arbor, and Michigan's own El Presidente is leading the charge.
Starting point is 00:42:33 The pregame party starts at 10 a.m. Eastern. Then it's quarterback Bryce Underwood and the Wolverines, going head-to-head with Wisconsin at noon. Big Noon Saturday, only on Fox. So Bill Belichick assembled a very poor roster. We said that after the first game against TCU, they're not many good players. So a coach, a group five head coach said this. They miscalculated the way they were taking guys in the portal and paying dudes. It made me wonder, did they actually understand the landscape they were in?
Starting point is 00:43:12 Did they understand they're in the ACC, not the conference USA or Sunbelt? Like, we got beat by North Carolina on a bunch of kids, and I like, why the blank is North Carolina beating us on kids? They're recruiting the guys we recruit. and this is a coach in a smaller program and a smaller conference. So Belichick, 73 years old, basically, and I have a theory on this. Number one, to get the best guys in the portal, because Carolina had some money. To get the best guys in the portal, you've got to kiss a lot of butt, and you've got to work much harder. And Bill wasn't up for it.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Secondly, a little of the Charlie Weiss thing when Bill comes in thinking maybe, you know, schematically, I'm dealing with a bunch of ACC football coaches. We're going to outsmart these guys. And, you know, we're going to build a culture. We don't need to have five-star guys. I don't know if that's true. But I will tell you, one thing that is unequivocally true, and one of the concerns I had when Belichick and Mike Lombardi took it over,
Starting point is 00:44:11 I'm like, they're pros. They're pro guys. Charlie Weiss is a pro guy. He's not going to understand. He's not going to have that feel. He's done a butt kisser. It's kind of that New Jersey rough personality. And that's fine.
Starting point is 00:44:22 But that's a pro personality. You have to kiss butt. you know jimmy johnson jim harbaugh are one those one and two pete carroll it worked both ways pete's got a big personality jimmy's got a big personality and harbaugh you know can really turn it on and off personality wise bill doesn't and i've said this for years there's only i remember telling rex ryan this one time i said dude you'd be a great college coach you did well in the nfl you could do college because rex can talk to talk rex is very verbal big emotion good looking guy big smile full of laughs, Rex Ryan would have worked in college, but he wasn't as good as some of the other NFL coaches.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And John Gruden, to me, I would hire him in a heartbeat in college football. Gruden, again, personality can turn on the charm, he could recruit. So Rex Ryan and Gruden were the two guys to me that would always work. Mike Tomlin, I think, is kind of a dude. He'd walk in, you know, the mom would be impressed. The dad would think he's cool to play. I think Mike Tomlin can work at the college level as well. But my theory is not all these got Bill Parcells in college.
Starting point is 00:45:27 He'd have no time for nonsense. Bill Parcells would spend five minutes with one booster and be like, get me out of here. Belichick's not built for college football. He never had any interest in it. I love Urban Meyer. Urban's not a pro coach. I remember talking to Urban about this. And Urban said, I spent my Sundays watching film because I didn't watch NFL football.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And it's like there is a sensibility in the NFL. Well, Saban, perfect for college, dominating personality. That's not going to work in pro football. So Bill was always a little cranky and difficult and, you know, distracted it feels like. And I think a lot of this is, I mean, you watch them against TCU and you're like, they don't have enough players. They don't have any speed here. Average quarterback, no big speed, no great pass rushers. And I think some of it is to get those kind of guys, you got to turn on the charm.
Starting point is 00:46:17 And Bill doesn't have any interest in that. That's just not who he is. I'm not blaming him. Great legendary co. I don't think Andy Reid would love college football. Andy wants to sit down and design plays all day long. Sean Payton could put on a, you know, he could recruit for a little while, but he wants to sit in a room, get the glasses, look at the play sheet, design plays.
Starting point is 00:46:37 He's brilliant at it. Peyton would be a pretty good recruiter. But, you know, Kyle Shanahan, to me, is not a college guy. Kyle Shanahan, his dad. Those are pro guys. They're pro guys. Not all TV guys can do radio. Not all radio guys can do TV.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It's communication, right? It's storytelling, right? Not really. So college and pro is different. I don't think Bill works. I will say this. For about a year, the Mack Jones-Belichick thing worked.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I thought it was very interesting. Julian Edelman talking about he's been humbled and he's grown up. The knock on him was, I remember hearing this about Mac Jones, is that he was called McEnroe Jones down in Alabama. He had a big temper. He was a dominant high school player,
Starting point is 00:47:26 dominant college player, and he didn't have a lot of time for nonsense. And he went to the NFL, and he got humbled fast. And I heard, remember he did a couple, he'd like kick guys. He had that weird sort of Grayson Allen thing from Duke. And I heard there was a little uprising in the Patriots locker room and a couple of the guys went to him and said, hey, stop that stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:47 that cheap shot stuff you know who pays for that us lineman guys will do that to us and so i mean go back to the kicking stuff it was like brutal it's like when you're eight but yet last night after uh the win in which he performed very well he was very humble at the mic they brought me here um to play as a backup and that's my job and brocks the start of this team and right now he's dealing with something and i'm just trying to get some wins for him so it helps us down the line and And at the end of the day, that's what it's all about. Like, I've been in his position. I'm in a starter, and you want your backup to go in there and win,
Starting point is 00:48:27 because at the end of the season, that could be the hit or miss between a playoff or not. I will say there are times that an athlete wears a suit that I know will not look good on me, and that is one of the instances. I'm not even sure it looked good on him. But anyway, so that's good for him. And I will say, Sean McBay had the bite of the day. if you were watching that game in overtime last night, and if you're on the East Coast,
Starting point is 00:48:53 you were probably watching the Yankees in the post game. So there was a fourth and one for the Rams in overtime, and Sean McVeigh went, he went really, really vanilla on the play. And I hate banging on coaches for play calling. I absolutely hate it. But, I mean, McVeigh felt so bad, I don't know what to say.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I mean, it's hard to criticize a guy when he says this after the call. It's a bad call. It's a bad call by me. It was a poor decision by me right there. In hindsight, I wish I would have. But, no, we came in here to try to win the football game. It didn't go down for us, Gary. That wasn't even a thought.
Starting point is 00:49:38 But the play selection was very poor. I'm sick right now because I put our players in a spot. Yeah, and he's a guy that takes losses hard. For the record, if you look at the 9th, schedule the next nine weeks, Rams and Bucks may be the only playoff teams they play. That was a huge win for San Francisco last night. And I thought they had a couple of calls go against them.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I thought there were a couple of bad calls in that game that went in the favor of the Rams. So, I mean, you start looking at that schedule. I mean, it was not daunting to begin with. But outside of the Rams and the Bucks in the next nine weeks, that was a monster win for San Francisco. Monster. Ram's schedule is much tougher. Hour number three on a Friday.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Man, these baseball games are crazy. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Nice. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick.
Starting point is 00:50:51 tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman
Starting point is 00:51:09 help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game.
Starting point is 00:51:32 This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves. their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Winning on Clay is an art.
Starting point is 00:52:06 The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moment's set to find Roland Garris. Genschen win. She's an outsider to win the French name.
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