The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - Cupid Cowherd plays matchmaker for some NFL teams, how the NBA can fix tanking

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

Colin talks to Ethan Strauss, host of the “House of Strauss” podcast to share how the NBA can fix their tanking issue and why the Dodgers dominance is not a bad thing for Major League Baseball. “Cupid Cowherd” makes an appearance ahead of Valentine’s Day to play matchmaker for QB needy NFL teams.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're live in Chicago. It's the Heard. Ethan Strauss. How do you fix the NBA All-Star game? How do you fix tanking? Camingo Warrior story in about three minutes. So LeBron last night became the oldest player to ever have a triple double. And, you know, through the years, I told the story years ago,

my wife went to the doctor in Los Angeles, and she doesn't know sports or anything. So she sat down, but she used to live in Chicago, and now she does again. And then she saw this guy, and she's like, yeah, that's kind of familiar. He looks like a sports guy. It was Phil Jackson. And so they started talking. She said Phil was very nice and everything. And she said, Phil said at the end, tell your husband he's wrong about LeBron and Michael Jordan.

Because I've said before, LeBron James does more things well than any basketball player I've ever seen. I always felt he was more Magic Johnson, where he really did love initiating offense for other people. But he's a better athlete and a better defender than Magic Johnson. But I think his game, Kobe was more Michael. LeBron's more Magic Johnson He's got the power elements He loves to elevate others He's fun

His sheer size Like magic came in at 6, 8 and a half His sheer size Nobody knew how to defend a guard That was 6, 8 and a half LeBron is still I've stood next to LeBron Two or three times

He looks like a pro football player He looks like an NFL defensive end And last night He really is remarkable But when you really really love a player I love Derek Jeter I love John Elway You know, I love certain actors.

I don't want to see them in straight to, you know, rental video, the old term in their movie career. I want to see, like, you know, Martin Scorsese, the director, like, direct every three years have a great film, the Irishman. Spielberg still feels like he's in his prime. His primes lasted forever. Yeah, but it's like, you know, every couple years do a great film. You don't have the energy when you get older or whatever.

It's like when you really love people, I like nice, clean endings. I don't want an Elvis ending or a Marlon Brando ending. And so I think this should be LeBron's last year. He's still like a top 15, 16 player. He still has moments. I went and saw him in Chicago. He literally was the best player on the floor. And then Luke was the best player after that.

And Luke ended up with like 40-some points. But here was LeBron on becoming the oldest player to ever have a triple double last night and I went over the math. I've never been sorry that basketball. So, yeah. I've been good ever since I started playing. Any given night, like if I need to turn it on, I could turn it. The fact that you can go out and be able to have an impact in three facets of the game,

you know, rebound and the assist obviously is what I love the most being able to get my guys involved. During my career, I've always loved that more than anything. And I'm being able to put the ball in the basket, obviously, that's part of this game as well. Yeah, and he can still do that. And I have no idea if he's going to retire, but it does feel like it would be. I think John Elway could have played another year. Jeter probably could have. Brady certainly could have three years after his retirement.

Who knows? If LeBron plays, he'll be good. But when you really like a director, an actor, an athlete, I just like cleaner endings. So the NBA is, and I don't want to overstate this, because every time the NFL season ends, we start paying more attention. And baseball hasn't started. We start paying more attention to the NBA. and I feel like there's a month.

It's like mid-February to mid-March. All we do is crap on the NBA, and the playoffs will be amazing they always are. But when Bill Simmons comes out, and I think it's something I, because I talk about this a lot, the business side of sports, it's like,

is Adam Silver the right guy? The tankings feels like it's really bad. The load management's almost comical. And with that, Ethan Strauss, one of the best substacks out there, House of Strauss, NBA Warriors and Culture Podcasts is joining us. Listen, tanking's been going on forever. I said about an hour ago, with David Stern, you had it,

but Stern was an ominous, threatening, loud presence. And he would call GMs and coaches and players, and, you know, he was brutal. He wouldn't apologize. Adam Silver, more pleasant. And I think at times it feels like star players take advantage of Adam Silver. Do you have a belief, Ethan, on how to fix the tanking problem. I do, and I have to disagree with you right off the bat. I don't think tanking has been a

problem forever. I think there's a time when you were an NBA fan when it wasn't. And sometimes the old ways work better than some of these crazy big-brained ideas I'm seeing floated around out there. The NBA used to do it this way. If you miss the playoffs, you had an equal chance as every other lottery team to win the lottery. Now, some people might say that's not fair, you know, that you're the worst team and you get the 13th pick or whatever. But guess what? I don't think we want to reward losing to such a degree. And let's just do on the one hand, on the other hand, right? On the one hand, maybe the worst team in the league gets the 11th or 12th pick and they stay bad. On the other hand, we have what we have now, which is a third of the league intentionally losing for months. I would

say that outcome is worse and I would say go back in time. The league made a mistake in the past. When they flipped out after Orlando got consecutive number one picks and they got Shaq and they got Penny Hardaway. The funny thing about that is the owners freaked out.

That was objectively great for the NBA. That was a charismatic team. If that's the bad outcome, I mean I think that they made a huge mistake way back when. I think return to the old days. You make the playoffs, you get a bigger playoff share to incentivize making the playoffs.

You miss the playoffs. Everybody's got the same long shot. Do it that way. Get rid of all this tanking. The All-Star game, and for the record, in fairness, the Pro Bowl's unwatchable. The only All-Star game that's any good is baseball. I do think we've moved into a time

now. The All-Star game in baseball was great because you didn't see all these players and all these games. Now that I can watch any team anytime, even a baseball, All-Star game doesn't feel as big. It's good. It's the best, but it doesn't feel as great. Pro Bowl is unwatchable. and was for years. The NBA All-Star game, listen, could I say this?

The players are so rich now. They just want time off. It's not solvable. Or do you have a way to fix the NBA All-Star game? I do have a way to fix the NBA All-Star game, but I don't think it's ever going to be implemented. And no, it's not Nick Wright's idea, our guy Nick Wright's idea to have the black guys play the white guys,

which that will never be implemented, but that would be interesting. That would be interesting. I guess the first thing I would say about it is this. The NBA's general problem with Adam Silver is doing too much. It's doing too much. The NBA, it's like a celebrity that gets so many plastic surgeries, a good-looking celebrity that you go,

I don't even recognize this. So the first thing I do to the All-Star game is stop with all the crazy reforms. I don't even know what this thing is right now, or there's a round robin, you know, before they had the players pick the guys. They have the Elam ending. Here's a crazy idea. You get the most popular players from the Eastern Conference,

and they play the most popular players from the Western Conference. It's something that makes sense to my dad. It's something I can explain to my son. Well, how do you get them to try hard? That's the thing everybody's thinking about right now. You hear about money. The All-Star Games is not about money.

It's about status. What I think should happen, and that Adam Silver will never do is he chooses the players. He makes the selection based on what he's seen in the popularity. And if you dog it, if you loaf, well, guess what? Maybe you're not getting invited to next season's All-Star game. Because the players, they might not care about trying in the All-Star game, but they care about being an All-Star.

They care about having that designation. And when Hall of Fame voting happens, that's something that they want on their mantle. So if you have a little bit of that incentive of the commissioners choosing the guys, we're choosing the 12 best entertainers in our sport on each team. And if you're not going to be an entertainer for our sport, you're not showing up. I think that's enough incentive not to try to the point where you might get yourself hurt, but at least not to dog it, not to loaf, not to launch from 50 feet away. That's what I would do.

Always always have great ideas. Okay. So you know, I mean, you really covered the Warriors forever. You wrote a book about it, The Victory Machine, the making and unmaking of the Warriors Dynasty. I've always felt you should love your kids like your superstar players. The Warriors fell in love with Steph Curry. And they've tried to make everything work through that ecosystem.

And the truth is, young players can't play with current Steph Curry's offense. It hasn't worked. And now they're old and slow and small. And it's just like hard. If he's not on the floor, it's hard to watch. So the Kaminga story is one, and I talked about this two days ago. I was never, I've never been a G-League fan, especially G-League Ignite, Scoot-Henerson, Jalen Green, Jalen Green, and Kamenga.

Yeah, you got it. G-League Ignite. I would call it G-League Ignore. It was overstated. There's never been a great player from G-League. You don't get the coaching. You don't get the marketing. You don't get the development.

And I think college basketball shouldn't be demonized. that being said it clearly comminga as he improved as a player played less under cur so i mean it's like you would think he starts here but the last three years it's like it's fewer games it's fewer minutes

he's in the doghouse what do you make of it they all say nice stuff curse has nice stuff on the way out but like what happened do you believe okay so when you started with the parenting analogy I thought it was going to be about Kaminga because Kaminga reminds me

of something I try to tell my son all the time, which is the Roman proverb. Before you can lead, you must follow. And so I'm reading these reports by Anthony Slater and other people that Kaminga's offended that Kerr wanted him to be an Aaron Gordon or a Sean Marion.

Well, guess why? In the NBA, before you get to be what you want to be, you've got to build a basis of what the coach needs you to be. It's not a charity. The coach needs to win. And afterwards, you can build out your game. You can be more than useful to your coach.

But it's got to start with useful to your coach. And I think a lot of these guys, okay, so here's something I was told last time I was at Summer League because I was asking is the big money screwing these guys up because there's so much money in the league. And somebody who's in ownership told me, no, you know, it's funny. The big money's not screwing up the guys who get it. It's screwing up the guys who don't.

The young guys like Cumminga who feel, hey, I'm just as good as this guy getting crazy money. In the new CBA structure, it's halves and have nots. So if you're on the outside looking in, it creates this dynamic where I think I'm a superstar already. I want the money already. It's right there. And a lot of guys, a lot of young guys, I think are foregoing the process. And that's what that G League Ignite thing was all about. It was guys who wanted to be a superstar right now.

now as opposed to paying dues as opposed to getting through their paces and i would say one more thing i'm not saying steve ker is perfect but i do think he's had a good track record on this we can say steve cur doesn't develop young talent and i would say well who's the young guy who left the warriors and flourished who was he wrong about is patrick macaa putting up any triple doubles anywhere he's been correct about these guys for the most part i just don't think he's had the horses I don't think Kaminga ever developed a three-point shot. He's up and down in the interior. He's a lousy rebounder.

I'm on, I think Kerr knows that. He got frustrated with a player who didn't grow and develop. You know, people by now know this, you know, the redemptive arc of Sam Darnold. And I do think every year we learn things in pro sports. And we'll see it with Mendoza in with the Raiders. He's going to get beat up. He's going to lose a lot of games. He's going to throw a lot of picks.

And I do think I would. will be, and I think I try to do this all the time, is let's not bail on young people. Young people's success is largely beholden to who are their bosses. And when you get to be 40 or 50, you're established, you know, Tom Brady by the end in Tampa, guys, I'm going to run the offense. So I don't really care. Is there anything that jumped out to you on Sam Darnold that maybe hadn't been said, or how did, through your prism, how did you view it?

Well, I know you love Sam Darnold, so I don't want to denigrate him. and say that he didn't turn into some great player. But I think Sam Donald's average. And I think that's okay. And I think that's what my lesson was on this whole thing. He played really well against the Rams. I thought he was okay in the Super Bowl. The advanced stats say that he was pretty average.

And maybe the lesson is that we overrate the quarterback because this isn't the NBA. We act like it's the NBA. And you're one of five guys. If you're a superstar, I mean, that just means so much. I feel as though the bills get overrated every year for their playoff chances because people act as though Josh Allen's greatness can overcome a talent deficit. And so I think the lesson with Sam Darnold is perhaps we might even make too big a deal of the surrounding weapons quarterbacks have on offense

and not a big enough deal about all the other help that allows them to win. If you've got the best defense and a good running game as the Seahawks had, that goes a long way. You can win with an average quarterback. We say, hey, this guy's not a Super Bowl level quarterback. I think a Super Bowl level quarterback is just a guy who's competent. I think we saw it this Super Bowl, and I think we saw it last Super Bowl with Jalen Hertz,

when we were trying to make him out to be somebody that he wasn't. He was fine, and that's the lesson in the NFL. You can win with a quarterback who's fine. It doesn't have to be Mahomes. You just have to be great at the other stuff. I like that take. I don't have to agree with it. but I like it.

I was saying this, Ethan, Ethan Strauss joining us for the radio audience. Check him out. House of Strauss is probably my favorite podcast I listen to in a regular basis. I was saying on LeBron, I didn't like the way MJ's career ended. I love the way it ended for Jeter,

Kobe's last game, John Elway. I don't want my actor to end like Marlon Brando, my musician to end like Elvis. LeBron is still very good. Two and a half, three minutes left, in the game because his lack of stamina late. He's not the defensive player.

I don't trust him at the free throw line in big spots. He's still a top 15, 20 player, but I wouldn't take him over, like right now, Kauai late in the game, Yokich, Wembe, SGA, and all that. I think it's the perfect time to go. We have great memories. It's amazing. He doesn't need the money. How do you think the Lakers ends?

And he, does it matter? It won't hurt LeBron's legacy. but would you prefer a clean ending if the Lakers are like, we're not bringing you back? How do you think it ends and how do you want it to end? I believe the story is kind of run out. And you're already seeing signs of it. I know you've famously talked about worrying

when a guy gets really into golf. I saw it reported that LeBron got a track man in his house. For people who don't know what that is, that's this thing that shows you exactly how hard. and where you're hitting a golf ball and how you're hitting a golf ball. That's often a sign that the mind is on something other than the hardwood. So it almost seems like he's spiritually removed from it. But then you've got this other thing happening,

which, again, the money is so big. I'm not saying LeBron's motivated by money. He clearly has a ton of money. But it has gotten to this point column where you're walking away from, you know, $60, $70 million a year. That's not nothing. So I kind of wonder with some of these older players, some of these millennial players in the NBA, if they're all going to stick around a little too long because it's hard to walk away from this amount of money.

And it's already hard to just say goodbye to the sport that you're used to. So I think that one's tough. I'd expect him to at least do another year, get the farewell tour. LeBron likes attention. That's my expectation. I think it would be better and cleaner if you ended it now, like you said. but I think we're getting at least one more season. Oh, you know, I didn't have this written down, or maybe I did.

I love your macro take on this. So if the Dodgers, my take is the outrage for the Dodgers signing Kyle Tucker is based on the Dodgers winning game seven. And they start, now they're stacking trophies in succession. We don't like that. We didn't love the tush push. It was outrageous and needed to be banned. and then the Eagles went belly up this last year

and nobody cares about the tush push, right? They weren't as good at it, the team isn't as good. We don't like separation. We watch dynasties, but sometimes we resent them. And my take is the Kyle Tucker, who the Cubs couldn't get rid of fast enough, drew all this outrage. The Yankees and the Mets and the Blue Jays

are often outspending the Dodgers, but the Mets aren't run well. The Yankees don't care. hair as much and the Blue Jays don't have a title and that a lot of this with the Dodgers isn't the spending. It's that now that they put them back to back, Kyle Tucker, who's not Mooky Betts, who's not Freddie Freeman, who not close to Otani. We're bothered by the titles, not necessarily the acquisition. And I don't think baseball should have a salary cap. Mets, Cubs, Astros, Dodgers, Padres, they're all interesting. Small market Seattle.

Evelyn, interesting. Where do you land on this labor stoppage that is imminent because of the Kyle Tucker signing? I'm 100% with you on this, and it reminds me of something from my career as a beat writer. People, they almost forget about this, but do you remember when the Warriors added to Marcus Cousins one summer? And how everybody flipped out. Indeed, it inspired the NBA owners. to restructure the CBA to punish the Warriors and prevent this stacking of talent. You know what DeMarcus Cousins did for the Warriors? Absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing.

He frustrated Steve Kerr, even more than Jonathan Cominga. It wasn't anything for them. But because of that impression that they were unbeatable and had such a massive edge, people flipped out about it. And I think it's the same with the Dodgers. I think it's been great for baseball that the Dodgers are a recognizable brand and that they've been winning. And I don't think that their victory is as assured as people think it is.

Baseball's still got a lot of randomness. A lot of randomness. They almost lost that game seven, like you said. And look, I think it's better for the MLB that the Dodgers are competitive than these weird world series like the Rangers versus the Diamondbacks with apologies to fans of those teams. I think it's been great for the MLB. And this is one of these situations to bring this whole conversation full circle, like when the NBA screwed up their whole draft lottery system where the petty resentments

of owners get in the way of the best product for everybody and for the fans. Ethan Strauss, he does such a great job, his substack. Read that every time one's out. His podcast, The House of Strauss, covers everything.

Big thinker and football season's over. We have to work a little harder. There's not as much juice out there in material and content, but your stuff remains just viable and interesting and good seeing you again. Great seeing you, Colin. Love being here.

All right. Ethan Strauss. If I'm going to go on a 45-minute walk, that's one of the podcasts I put in. Always makes me think. Yeah, the baseball thing, pitchers, catchers report this week, Dodgers today is, I remember the DeMarca's cousin signed with the Warriors,

and it's all this, listen, right now, the Yankees are relevant, the Mets are relevant, the Phillies are relevant, the Cubs are relevant, the Dodgers are relevant, the Padres are relevant.

The Astros, if they're healthy, will be. And small market Cleveland and small market Seattle, although I don't think of Seattle, a small market, were excellent last year. And I could be wrong on this. Wouldn't Baltimore really good? Everybody looks at, well, what about St. Louis? Well, the economy in St. Louis has died.

Is that L.A.'s fault? You don't build leagues to protect the bottom eight teams. You should build teams for the middle class and above. and like networks, ESPN and Fox have no responsibility or NBC to air the bottom 12 teams. The television ratings are up nationally. Why? Because you're airing these really stacked, excellent teams. So for the record, Milwaukee was great last year.

Seattle was great last year. Cleveland was great last year. Big market, D.C. wasn't. The Mets underwhelmed. So it's, and there's also, as Ethan said, there's so much randomness in baseball. Dodgers couldn't keep pitchers healthy for two years. And if not for Dave Johnson, in one of the craziest games ever, ever,

pulling every right lever, I mean, substituting, you know, an infielder who hadn't been hitting, Dave Roberts, excuse me. I mean, literally Dave Roberts pulled every stinking lever in game seven, and they all just happened to work. There was a randomness to it.

That's why the Dodgers won the World Series. Because, and I think if Dodger fans were truly honest, the more consistent team at the plate was Toronto. I mean, for a lot of that series, I felt Toronto was the better team. When they had runners on or big spots at the plate, I trusted Toronto's bats more than I did the Dodgers. And it just so happens. The randomness kind of worked in the Dodgers favor. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app.

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And Jason Kelsey even spoke to Brown's frustration and how he can be a detriment to the offense. I think there's got to be a reason that AJ is well liked in the building by coaches and players. He's well respected. I think part of it is that he's a great player. And, you know, teammates want him there and know that he can be a dominating force for them. But, you know, those frustrations, he's just. the unfortunate player who allows his internal frustrations to manifest into his play. And it makes him play worse.

It makes the offense worse. And it makes his energy worse. Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it. Like some guys can contain it to compartmentalize it. AJ Brown's probably not that guy. You know, I think, I guess I would ask you this. I think there's a chance the Eagles unravel this year a little. bit. Like last year, we didn't know they weren't going to win until they didn't win because they

would have these halves of football and they kept winning a lot of close games. I kind of think it's going to unravel this year. Siriani hurts, AJ Brown, and there'll be moves. Do you? Well, I mean, I don't know unravel because the GM's so good, they'll be talented, but they got a lot of question marks. AJ Brown's gone. He's going to be traded here in a couple weeks, right? Unofficially. A.J. Brown will not be back on the team. Lane Johnson reports he might retire Landon Dickerson, Pro Bowl, might retire. Did you see the guy they hired to be their offensive coordinator? He's never called

plays. So this is not one of those. Kellen Moore had been a play caller for a long time in Dallas. Yeah. Right? Shane Steichen was a rising star. Philip Rivers was telling everyone that would listen that years ago. You know, you go Sean Manion at this new quarterback, or I mean, new coordinator, you just never know. We saw it with

Brian Johnson. We saw it last year with Kevin Patola, who's Seriani's guy. I think the AJ Brown situation To me, you know, he makes $32 million, Colin. Look at the drafts. You could find a guy for a million bucks and gave you 75 catches. AJ last year had 78 catches. So I'm going to trade, you know, people, all the Patriots.

Patriots are going to trade their second round pick. They just made it the Super Bowl for a guy making $32 million. I'd be stunned. You know, I think his value, and I'm pro A.J. Brown. He's a very talented player. I think his value, though, is going to shock people when they have one of the best GMs. He's great at making trades. but I don't think it's going to be easy for him just to get like, you know, pick 40 for A.J. Brown.

I think those days have passed. Interesting. You know, speaking of troublesome wide receivers, George Pickens, he obviously had a great first year in Dallas, but he already could be on his way out. Reports indicate the Cowboys expected to franchise him this offseason. They could then return around and trade him for a second round pick. I don't know about you, Colin. I don't see any team in the league trading.

they franchise $28 million and then trading Jerry a second round pick. I don't see that one happening. Well, I think we know the one position where college players can come right in and have immediate impact as wide receiver. I think DAC has shown an ability to work with

Amari Cooper and C.D. Lamb and tight ends. I think Dak, I think they've got, Ryan Flournoy is an interesting player. I think C.D. Lam's an absolute legit number one. I think they're going to draft fairly early at tight end. I just, I wouldn't do it.

I, you know, I think what happens sometimes, Jerry, the GM, and I think this happens in all businesses, you make choices to validate earlier decisions. And they gave up a third. I think did they give up a third and a fifth? And it's like, okay, now they feel like they have to sign him. And I get that. So that's, you know, they're going to validate their earlier decision and pay him. But I've got two examples last year for a strike. in Dallas and at

Pittsburgh, and for the record, there were red flags out of Georgia that he can be a bit disruptive. So I thought he had a great year, but I would struggle to pay him big money. Yeah, I think the Cowboys are pot committed on this. Jericho's proven. Micah Parsons is kind of the outlier

situation where he pivoted. I think they'll go all in, they're paying DAC big money. Listen, if they can keep him on the straight and arrow, there is no, it'd be hard to argue that their offense wouldn't have a chance to be one of the best in the league if George is playing well. Okay, Colin, last but not least, the Rams and the Seahawks.

They went head to head three times last season, played some great games. And the Seahawks obviously went on to win at all. But Jared Verse spoke to how he feels about their rivals up north. I genuinely, like, I don't like them. I got like a disdain in my heart for them. Like, I hate them. I don't like the Seahawks. Like, at home, like there's nothing I like about them.

I don't like their players. There's nobody I like about their staff. I don't like them. I think that's incredibly realistic and healthy, and I'm glad that he went out there. And I think that for the next year or two will probably be the best rivalry in the sport. Well, you know what's funny, Colin,

is forever the Steelers against the Ravens. And then some of the NFC East, you know, with the Eagles and the Giants and the Cowboys over the years. You could argue the three teams in the NFC West. I mean, the Niners of Seattle have been rivals since Harbaugh and Pete got there. now Seattle with Mike McDonald

going at this defensive mind going up against McVeigh and Shanahan you kind of have a three-way rivalry because the Niners don't like Seattle or L.A. L.A. doesn't like San Francisco and now them in Seattle are at each other odds. It doesn't even matter that the Cardinals aren't that good. You've got those three teams that are three of the better teams in the league.

It is, it's interesting about, I mean, you just go to like a replay here or a replay there and the Rams were in the Super Bowl and they would have beaten New England or the Seahawks. Like the Seahawks. Seahawks Super Bowl, this is a really, really good team. But you go back to those Ram games, and Matt Stafford multiple times walked up and down the field against the Seahawks defense. And so I kind of feel like everybody else did that as great as the Seahawks team is and the story is, the reality is it could have just as easily.

If you don't get this replay overturned or this call, it could have been a Rams Super Bowl. There is such a thin line between what Seattle and the Rams and the Niners. and the Niners produced. Niners had really unforeseen injuries. But, I mean, I would argue that the Rashid Shahid, the special teams for Seattle, eventually sort of catapults them slightly ahead of the Rams. That's about it.

Colin, even the Rams winning the Super Bowl this year, which was on the table. What about last year when they were a couple of plays away from beating the Eagles, then they would have played the commanders who they would have killed. They would have had a one-game situation against a pretty flawed Chief's team.

So McVeigh's probably lost some sleep the last couple of years knowing he could have a couple more rings. Yep. John Middlough with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. Yeah, the Julian Edelman last hour, Ethan

Strauss, this hour. It's this has always been an interesting week. This week and next week have always been really interesting weeks to be a talk show host. Because this wildly popular sport, it's probably like the week after

the Stanley Cup in Canada or the week after like the English Premier League you know, the championship's been settled. You get this sort of, oh, everybody takes a deep breath. And we all kind of beat up on the NBA here for about a week before it goes into the All-Star game. Ethan Strauss, I thought was really good on it, is I do think the playoffs will be excellent. I mean, and the money the NBA made with our last deal is substantial. But I think the NBA should not look at the NFL.

I think the NBA should look at baseball. And baseball's had a two and a half three year renaissance because of tweaks. And I contend it's too repetitive. There's too many threes. You know my feeling on that. I would take the three point arc and move it into the bench. I would not allow these corner threes. It would force players to defend the three ball more from the arc.

Centers would not have to leave the circle. Therefore, there'd be more collisions at the rim, more physical. It would be harder to get open threes on the arc, and it would become more of a situational, get a bucket, get a stop league, which I think the playoffs become, and it's much better to watch playoff basketball than regular season three-point shooting contests.

I don't know what exactly to do with the tanking. Ethan Strauss had his opinion. But I do think the NBA is making a lot of money, and the playoffs are really really exciting. I don't know about shortening the league. I mean, they're playing two games a week. I think it's fine. Oh, what about all the injuries?

I think they could play through a lot of these injuries. I do. I really do. I think a lot of this stuff is sort of managing for the postseason where the game gets more physical. But I think the NBA between the money, between their social relevance, and between playoff basketball, I think it's fine. I don't think the trajectory, though, going forward is as promising as baseball. It's not as popular as the NFL. And I just read a Pete Tamill story this morning about college football potential.

expanding the playoff in college football to 24 teams, which would make the committee much less relevant, which I would like. I don't know if I like 24 teams, but I feel like baseball's moving up, NFL's moving up. College basketball ratings have been great. College football ratings were great. I don't know if the NBA's in that space. They got their money. They got their bag. Doesn't feel like it's as tight as it needs to be. There's just too many lingering issues here. Cupid Cowherd. I'll be a matchmaker. Quarterbacks that are available and teams that need them.

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I'm going to play Valentine's Day is tomorrow. I'm going to play matchmaker, teams that need a quarterback and quarterbacks who are available. John set me up. Here we go on the eve of Valentine's Day. Okay, Colin, who are you pairing with Kevin O'Connell and the Minnesota Vikings? Well, the Vikings are ready to win now with their personnel. I would go get Aaron Rogers. Aaron, will you be my scold mate?

I think it works. First of all, J.J. McCarthy is going into year three. It is beyond durability issues. It's little stuff, it's big stuff. You can't depend on him. You got Justin Jefferson, an elite left tackle. Minnesota's got good players, an excellent head coach. Minnesota's got an elite defensive coordinator.

By the way, Chicago's getting better. Green Bay is better. The Lions solved their offensive coordinator issues. You could be in fourth place very quickly with another J.J. McCarthy injury. I'd go get Aaron. Okay, Colin, new GM, new coach. Who are we pairing with the Dolphins? I would retain.

I would stay with Tua for one more year. He's under contract. Nobody's going to buy it out. It's sort of fantastic, right? For a year. He's got an out after next season. season. The dolphins can go big game hunting in a year. But John, he's good enough to win games now. There's limitations on the market he has. There's a new GM. There's no reason to commit unless you

could get a Fernando Mendoza. There's no real reason that Stephen Ross in this organization could commit. They have some roster rebuilding to do before they worry about the quarterback. Two is expensive. He doesn't have a market. I'd stay with him. Okay, we have a new sheriff in town. Who are we pairing with the Steelers? Okay, this one makes sense to me. I would go get Malik Willis. Okay, McCarthy has a connection to Green Bay.

He's going to have Intel. Also, the Steelers need to get younger and more athletic. Malik Willis. I mean, there are people in the building and people out of the building that are saying he's better than Jordan Love. I don't think so, but he is electric. He played very well in Green Bay.

McCarthy has a history of getting the best out of quarterbacks, despite the criticism he gets, he's got that connection. I mean, let's face it. With Aaron, Aaron did the best job possible. But do you really think Aaron and Mike McCarthy? I mean, McCarthy's went and hired a new staff. One of them doesn't really see eye to eye with Aaron. It doesn't feel like an ideal fit.

I think Malik Willis works for me. Okay, Colin, this could be a team fresh off a divorce looking for love. Who are we pairing with the Cardinals? Okay, I think Kyler Murray has served at his time. There's not a good vibe with ownership and Kyler Murray. I like him. I'm in the minority. I would move him out and eat his contract.

I would go do what Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos did. I would eat the contract. They just wanted Russell Wilson out of the building. We're going to reach a little bit on Bo Nix. It was viewed as a reach by many in the league. I would not take Ty Simpson from Bama at three. I would trade down to 10, 11, 12. I'm much more comfortable.

if I can accumulate more picks. Okay, if I can get a fourth or a fifth and move down from three to ten or twelve, then I'll reach on Ty Simpson. And for the record, you got a young offensive coach. Jacobi Brissette, he may not be able to beat him out. But you'll know in a year from practice in some play whether you should go for another quarterback or keep the kid. But if you think he's got the ability to be your starter, get him in a year.

in house, former Rams assistant, work on him for a year. Listen, it's not a great situation, but I do think occasionally with Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray, and this has happened before, I think it's just time the locker room needs to be cleared. You eat the contract to Kyler for a year. Well, this is a team that once got famously left at the altar right before the start of the season. They've been looking for love ever since, Colin. Who are you pairing with the Colts? I think Riley Leonard let him play for a year. I liked him more than most people out of Notre Dame. He had one start last year. The Texans wrested a lot of starters. Shane

Steichen will get the most out of anybody. Now, they gave up first round picks for Sauce Gardner, so I wouldn't be giving up picks to move up. Play the kid. I don't want to commit long term to Daniel Jones. Who we pairing with the Jets? I would take Greg Nussmeier, LSU quarterback

in the second round. Not because I think he's going to be amazing, but Justin Fields gets hurt. This is going to be a terrible team. Whether he's a starter or a backup, I think he's absolutely at some point at least a spot starter or a bridge starter, I'd get him in the building. Will Cleveland ever find a quarterback? Well, I'm going to be a matchmaker here.

I should do or do love having you as a friend. I would keep Shadur Sanders. Why not? They're still stuck with the Sean Watson's contract. I think he's entertaining. Merch sales, interest. I like watching him play. I'd give him another year.

You're not a title team anyway. Strongest opinion on my matchmaking. You know, I think you left out a name, Derek Carr. Rumors have been circulating about him making a comeback. I think he makes sense. Minnesota, Indianapolis, two dome teams. I mean, Aaron Rogers, there's no guarantee. He might just stay in Malibu, Colin, work the beaches.

Derek Carr, Shane Stike, and Kevin O'Connell. I think he'd be an upgrade for both franchises inside. Makes some sense to me. Good stuff, John Middlecock. We head to hour number three on a Friday. Julian Edelman, the three-time Super Bowl. Chant will stop by. Chicago's where we're at.

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