The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - Getting the right coach for Josh Allen, the future of the Eagles, Dianna Russini

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

NFL reporter Dianna Russini joins the show with the latest on the head coaching search across the NFL including who the Bills will pair with QB Josh Allen. She also provides the latest on what the Eagles will do with WR AJ Brown The NBA continues to pander to the playerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I saw this this morning. The Steph Curry, year 17, still leads the NBA in Jersey sales. They just don't know how to try. the page. Warriors aren't even good. It feels like a problem to me. It's like the Marvel universe where a bunch of years ago they did

end game and they're like, well, that's the end of it. Aren't they releasing Doomsday? They can't figure out how to turn the page in the Marvel universe. The NBA's got too many players nobody cares about. The regular seasons are relevant. Star players don't even want to play. Too repetitive,

too many three-pointers. And I'll tell you, the problem of the NBA, all the ratings are exploding, people can say, well, the NBA ratings, they went from cable to broadcast. Of course, the ratings are up. Is that when you're a player-led league, you're going to have major dips based on the popularity of your player. When Michael Jordan left, they lost 50% of their ratings. In the NFL, you don't have big dips because people love the Packers, not just Jordan love. They love the Niners, not just George Kittle.

They love the Eagles, not just Jalen Hertz, or Lane Johnson. but in the NBA, it's all about the player. It's all about the player. It's all about the player. Take care of the player. It's not about the franchise. So, and that's why the NBA has these massive dips in interest is, and the NFL doesn't. For a lot of reasons, you can bet on both.

They're both pretty good on TV. But, well, there's a lot more NFL games than there are a lot more NBA games. Then there are NFL. Well, there's double the baseball regular season games as the NBA games. and baseball's ratings are on fire. And they didn't just go cable to broadcast. Why? Because people love the Dodgers, not just Otani.

People love the Yankees, not just Aaron Judge. They love the Cubs, not just the players. The NBA is so player-driven that your ratings and the interest, I mean, if Steph is still leading in year 17 in Jersey sales, Tom Brady's last year, he wasn't anywhere near the top seven or eight in jersey sales. And he was the goat. He was the Jordan of the sport. Number one, I think, was Josh Allen.

Micah Parsons was way up there and Tom's last year. Mahomes was up there. Joe Burrow, I think, was three or four. Because the NFL's not dependent on you liking the player. It's about the team and the franchise. Baseball does a good job, too. You love the Cubs. It's great when the Cubs get good players, but you love the Cubs first.

Diana Rusini, with that is now joining us live. Man, there's a lot going on. The Athletic Senior NFL Insider. So there's a bunch of different stories out there. One by Vic Carucci, who's been in Buffalo forever, about Sean McDermott telling the owner and the GM, hey, I don't love the personnel. I mean, was the firing of Sean McDermott completely unexpected, or had you heard for five or six or seven weeks? It was tense.

What do we know today? Yeah, I don't think ownership was as irritable or frustrated with it until the end of the season. at least towards the end of the season. That is when Word started to get out. Probably like week 17. It was starting to get around, keep an eye on Buffalo. If they're won and done, look for McDermott to be out. And so then obviously when they won, it died down a bit.

And then Saturday night is when the conversation started again. And at the athletic, we actually already wrote a piece that Sean McDermott was getting fired because at that point I'd found out that, that ownership was really, they were done with it. They were sick of the eight years with Josh Allen and just not getting over the hump. And I really truly don't think it was lack of respect or belief in Sean McDermann. It's just when you look at it historically, if a coach has not won within the first 10 years of him being a head coach, it's tough. Yeah.

And some of these owners just think a change, something new on top of the fact, you're watching a lot of these organizations with this new breadth of fresh air, these new guys come in. Obviously, we're seeing in Chicago, we saw in Jacksonville, seeing in Boston. You see these guys come in and change the entire team. And I think that's what's tempting. Will Josh Allen have any say in the next coach, Diana? He absolutely will. They're going to have, wouldn't you? Right? Like, Josh Allen is the team. And I do think his influence here is going to be important. And I think his overall comfort with who this head coach is going to be a big factor in this, which is why I do think they'll go to wind up leaning towards more offensive-minded type coaches.

Because look, they made a move because they know the window is going to just get, you know, tighter and tighter here. And that's why they moved on from Sean. So patience is already not something that they have. And they're going to want to coach to come in here. I think they're going to lean more towards someone who's done it and get this thing going because they're going to want to be in the Super Bowl next year. Okay, what do you make of the reports or suggestions?

What are you hearing about Bill Belichick in Buffalo? Nothing. Bill doesn't have a market in the NFL. You know, so I think, look, he has been, his people, including Coach Belichick, have been very open with people, media, with people in football. They want to stay in North Carolina. So I think he obviously has information. You're not doing that unless you know.

you don't have a shot. And I have yet to have a conversation in this coaching cycle, even last one, of anyone who seriously was considering bringing Bill in. I didn't mean to come off mean, by the way. That was just more of like the facts, you know? Well, sometimes Bill was mean. I mean, it's not the end of the world. Oh, Bill's. Bill's real mean. Bill was, I've had some tough press conferences. Let me tell you. I remember sitting there. I was young. My shirt was soaked. I was so afraid. I asked him if he ever considered treating Jimmy, no, if he regretted treating Jimmy Garoppolo

after that practice. Remember when Tom jammed his finger, helmet, like cut his finger? And that was the question I asked in that post practice, and it was, it was memorable. It was awful. I love John Harbaugh. The hard balls are so,

they love football so much. They can't even hide it. They're like kids. They're like kids. I got to tell you something. I've been critical to Giants for a long time. I think they're good now. I think they need a right tackle, a tight end, some secondary help.

Are you surprised? What was the word around the league in your sources when Harbaugh immediately jumped on this opportunity? Did people think it was this good of a job? Because John's like, no hesitation. He wanted that job. Yeah. And a lot of candidates felt the same way about this Giants roster. This was one of the golden ones.

Just based on some of these players, and obviously the history, the ownership, look, they haven't wanted a while. We know it hasn't been great with Joe Shane at the helm. But ownership has always been really fair to their head coaches. And while they're involved, they're not hands on telling you what to do. They're just going to listen and trust you. And that's valuable. It was all about ownership and quarterback this cycle. And it continues to be as we have these openings. So John, I think, brings accountability. He's going to bring vision, focus. And really, an adult in the building. That is what someone there said to me. That is what they're going to get in New York.

Yes, we joke that he's a little bit of a football Labradoodle, but he also knows what he's doing, and I think the New York Giants are very excited to hand him the keys. Yeah, I would be excited. I think they're close. Okay, the Steelers, we joked earlier, like they feel like, you know, guys married for 35 years,

then all of a sudden he's single, and he doesn't know, he thinks apps are like appetizers at Chili's. He doesn't know what dating apps are. They don't look for coaches. they don't know what they're doing. They don't do this, ever. And so all of a sudden, the Giants don't know how to do it. Atlanta knows how to do it.

Like some of these organizations, they're pretty good at the, let's go, let's get a coaching search. Pittsburgh doesn't do it. I'm hearing Mike McCarthy, and I'm thinking, well, he's a Pittsburgh guy. That's an easy one. Where are the Steelers at? I made a joke during the Giants Harbaugh situation. Someone had texted me that the Giants were behind on the contract. Like, they weren't getting it done.

I'm like, don't they just have a template ready to go? They do this all the time. Like, how hard could it be to do a contract in New York? You're always doing it. Where in Pittsburgh, you know, they're like looking in old files. Like, how do you do this again? And look, here's what I know from that ownership, especially. They're going to go with what they know, right?

And what they're comfortable doing. And look what they did with my time. And they took a young, you know, black defensive coach with tons of energy. And they took a shot on him. And it worked pretty darn. well. So yes, I can see them gravitating towards a guy who's done it before because it's comfortable. This isn't a fantastic roster. They don't have a quarterback. This is one of the jobs that I don't believe a lot of these coaches that are hungry to get in or are fighting

for him. Just because they're not, first of all, you got to fill in for Mike Tomlin. That's tough. But you're not coming in here and winning. And I don't necessarily believe that that's the way the franchise is seeing it. I don't think they think that they're in rebuild. Totally agree. Yep. Totally agree. So you got to be. be able to have someone to come in here and be able to communicate. Like, look, we have a lot of work to do. Anthony Weaver is the name I want you to watch. I think he has somebody that both the Baltimore Ravens, and remember Anthony Weaver,

he's the defensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins. He is a former Raven himself. He's a former coach for the Ravens. John Harbaugh overpassed him to be the D.C. He left Baltimore, went to Miami. That's where he is now. So he's up for the job in Baltimore, and he's up for the job in Pittsburgh. And I think he's got a really good shot of getting one of these.

Buffalo also recently put in for him. So he's going to be meeting with him as well. And doesn't it just make a lot of sense if you're going to go with, hey, this is what we've done before, young, hungry, culture builder, player guy. But of course, you know, he's going to have to try to beat up Brian Flores and Mike McCarthy. And also these coaches that are playing this weekend. That's a whole other layer to this. I'm kind of fascinated with the Raiders job because Fernando Mendoza's,

is a franchise quarterback. How great, I don't know, but he's darn good. Brock Bowers, Ashton Gentie. They got to get their old line fixed. Colton Miller, I think is still around off injury. They got to get the old line fixed for Mendoza. But their defense is okay. Brady's on the sideline of the national championship game. Like everybody's watching. I don't know if it's a good job. I know this, that when you get a really talented quarterback in a rookie deal for four or five years, you can stack the roster. And that usually Denver with Bow Nix, Drake,

New England. Justin Herbert initially, it's usually a pretty good thing if you get the right coach. Do we know anything on Vegas? Yeah. First of all, you got to make sure you hit and we got to hope that if the readers do decide to go in that direction, that he turns out to be the players that you just listed. You never know, right? So you got that gamble.

But look, the Raiders are not one of these jobs that I'd put them in the same category. I'd put the Steelers above them, actually, in terms of guys that want that job. and I think it has to just do with the fact that it's been a place to die over the last few years. You know, it's been hard to have success. You've got Max Crosby who's disgruntled. What's his future going to be in Vegas, right? He's the face of that place. If you don't have him, who do you have in that locker room policing and setting the tone of what you want and the expectations?

So look, I think that they're leaning more towards offensive-sided, offensive-minded type coaches, right? So Davis Webb is a name I keep hearing. Obviously, he's the Denver Broncos quarterback coach. Are you going to bring in a first-time head coach with a brand new quarterback? You know, that's a big challenge. But Tom Brady's running the show there. He is the one having all the say on what they're going to do next year, which I think could be a good thing.

You know, the jury's out on whether or not he can pick right. All right. There's so many openings, right? We can have a whole show on just this because there's so much. Yeah, I mean, let me throw this out there. I mean, I thought the Ravens were the best job until Buffalo opened up. And I still think the Raven, Steve Boshadis great. Roster's very, very good.

O-line stable, Lamar Jackson. I mean, Jesse Mentor feels like the play, but I'm not hearing about it. What's the Baltimore situation? Well, Jesse Mentor's with them right now, actually. So we'll see how that pans out. I'd love to know what his plan is at OC. That's all that matters. All that matters in Baltimore right now.

Who is going to coach Lamar Jackson? Steve was shot. It was very transparent. They're all in, right? They're all in because they fire John Harbaugh. And they want to make this work. They want to get to the Super Bowl. And this is another organization that's looking at it as a window, right?

We got to get the most out of them. So while I understand that you're bringing in the leader of men, and that's important that you have the CEO, the plan for OC has to be there, right? So Cliff Kingsbury is a name that's out there. I can tell you, I know for a fact that Lamar Jackson, and those receivers would like Cliff Kingsbury to run their offense. They have shown support. They've been vocal about it.

They've been part of some of these interviews, too. Lamar Jackson's part of these. He's zooming in. He's in touch with the decision makers of what he likes, who he's liked. And so, you know, we'll see how this shakes out. But I think the, you know, Anthony Weaver's one of those again that I mentioned a few minutes ago that is going to be in the running for this job. And from what I understand, Cliff Kingsbury would be his OC.

and I think that would be a pretty tremendous fit when you think about what Cliff Kingsbury did with Kyla Murray. Now insert Lamar Jackson, one of the best quarterbacks in football. All right, finally, A.J. Brown drama, I've said I would have moved him at the deadline. I think he's great. I think Buffalo should be interested. I think there's all sorts of suitors for him. I think he's impossible unless you have big, long, young corners. He's hard to defend.

And I think a lot of these guys, I mean, Stefan Diggs is a great example. By year three, he can wear people. out. But Stefan Diggs everywhere he goes for the first couple years. Productive. Everybody likes him. He's great in the room. A.J. Brown for a couple years in Buffalo is interesting to me. I think he'd have a market. Do you think Philadelphia will move him? I just saw Diggs on Sunday night after the Patriots game. I mean, it's like he's 22 years old now. Yeah. Like he is stressed. He is rejuvening. He's the leader of that team. He's basically Vrabel's little soldier. Like what Raibald tells him to do, he tells the locker

room. It works. It's a good, it's a good match, right? Because there, there is a lot of ego there, as you know, and you got to feed that and you got to manage it. And good coaches know how to manage it. And they're all in on the quarterback there in New England. So now let's transfer this over to AJ Brown. And it's pretty obvious. He is not happy. He was not happy from really this going back to last year, right? But it's different. They won the Super Bowl. That kind of masks all the problems. So here we are this year. And I think it's going to be up to him. I think the bottom line, Philadelphia is not stupid. They're not going to waste their time. And they can't go through what they just did again.

This team has to revamp how they approach this season. And they're not moving on from Jalen Hertz, right? So you're picking A.J. Brown or you're picking J. Brown? Or you're picking J.L.R.T.R.R.T., who you're picking? You're picking the quarterback. That's just how it works. Plus, the owner loves them. And he also was the Super Bowl MVP. So I think for A.J. Brown, I could easily see Buffalo showing interest. I could see Kansas City showing interest.

Imagine him with Patrick Mahomes. So we'll see if they wind up working out a deal to get him out of Philadelphia. but I'd be surprised to see them as an eagle next year. All right. You're crushing. You're just all the time I see with stories and crushing and intel and all that stuff. No, I like it, but I feel like sometimes when I'm dumping the information, it sounds so robotic and I don't mean to. But it's just like, you're just like taking all these conversations and all the writing and recording.

You're just like, I've got to get my best stuff. So, yeah, no, it's fun. This is awesome. This has been the wildest coaching cycle. ever covered people everyone has talked everyone wants to talk to about it right now because there's so many moving parts right you got brian dable up in buffalo tennessee wants him to be the o c philly wants him to be the o c if he takes one of these jobs and he doesn't go to philly who's the oc for the eagles that should be a good job right it doesn't appear to be so there's this like all these

like little tentacles to all of this that i just find really interesting great seeing you as always great seeing thanks for having me all right she's awesome uh diana russini at the athletic. Like the hard balls, great energy. It brings it every single time. Man, that, I'm telling you, some years at Fox, we get breaks. Like the World Series last year. I mean, you're just like, how lucky did we get?

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you get your podcast. No, I don't know if you guys saw this. Cody Bellinger, World Series champ, MVP, NLCS MVP, just signed a $162 million deal five years with the Yankees. Where's the outrage?

Oh my God. Cody Bellinger's just as good a player, if not better than Kyle Tucker. Where's the outrage? There is none because you don't think the Yankees are well run. They don't threaten you. The Dodgers have money, and they win. The Yankees have money. That's the, that's why this is just ridiculous. Oh,

Kyle Tucker signing. Terrible for baseball. If ratings and revenue are up and attendance is up, check, check, check. And the Cubs, Yankees now have signed another pitcher and Cody Bellinger, good offseason for the Yankees, Cubs, Dodgers. If the Astros are healthy, they'll contend for a World Series crown. Atlanta's got to stay healthy. They're good. And by the way, Seattle, of Cleveland, Milwaukee, all doing very, very well, small markets. I don't want to hear about Pittsburgh. They're irrelevant. They're billionaire owners cheap.

I don't care about them. But I said this. I just ran it on this an hour ago. There's a big story that Kyle Tucker Dodgers trade of that, that or that move, that acquisition, that sent everybody over the top. But Cody Bellinger, 162 million five years Yankees, that's okay. This guy's an MVP. This guy's an NLCS MVP.

He's a World Series champ. He's got a better resume than Kyle Tucker. Why aren't you bothered by? Am I wrong on this? Because of deferred payments, I think the Yankees led baseball last year in payroll. And they just signed a great pitcher, Weathers and Cody Bellinger.

Where's the outrage? This is not a pro-L-A rant. It's a pro-common-sense rant. You're bothered because the Dodgers, when they get guys, always come home with the ring. If the Dodgers would have lost game seven of the Blue Jays, nobody'd be outraged by Kyle Tucker or very few. It's that they're winning not just the money.

Again, pool holes Josh Hamilton. In today's dollars signed 15 years ago almost for $540 million. Nobody cared. Why? It's the Angels. Soto goes to the Mets. Nobody cares. Why?

It's the Mets. You just don't like that the Dodgers sign them and then hoist a trophy. That's at the heart of it. As the kids say, let's keep it 100. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.

All right, I want to go to this Rams Seahawks Showdown, very excited for the rubber match in Seattle this weekend. It's on Fox, and Matt Stafford talked about the task at hand with a Super Bowl trip at stake. It's a huge challenge to go play in Seattle. We've done it once this year, and what a hell of a game that was. You know, they've got such great players on their team. They're really well coached.

I'm sure excited to be in this opportunity and be in this situation to, you know, go see what we're all about. Can we go into their place? Arguably the toughest place to play in the league, a team that's played really good football a year and then find a way to win it. And, you know, continue this journey because that's what it's about at this point in the year. Can we find a way to work together for another week? And, you know, we have the opportunity now and it's exciting. How good is that going to be? If you put those two rosters together, J-MAC, and did a Pro Bowl team,

you could have Stafford and Darnold to your quarterbacks. I mean, just look at the receivers. Puka, JSN, Devante Adams. Go look at your defensive front. I mean, if you just took the Rams and Seahawks and said, we'll play the league, you do your Pro Bowl, we'll do ours. I'm telling you right now, you could compete. Your own line, you'd get like, you know, you'd get Gray's Abel who's good.

Rams have, you know, a couple of pieces and the interior that are very good. Your O-line wouldn't be full of pro bowlers, but everything else, you could go toe to toe with almost every. Take Seattle's secondary. Rams, receivers, and backs. I mean, the backs would be Walker,

Kairn Williams. I mean, these rosters are loaded. Are you going to do one of my favorite things where you rank the top 10 players in the game? Yeah. I don't even know if Sam Darnold's top 10 in this game. I'm not even joking. It's load.

There's so much talent. Donald's good, but he's no all-pro. You know, he's fine. I don't think he's top ten, but I'm sure you'll find a way to crowbar in a minute. Let me ask you something, Tom. So in that second meeting, Ram C-Hawks, did you know that the Rams did not punt until there were like nine minutes left in the game? They went up and down the field, did whatever they wanted,

and that's when McVeigh made the catastrophic mistake. Let me dial it back, get a little conservative, milk clock, and then the punt return happens at all hell breaks loose. I tried to break down in quarters Like if there saw a boxing match The eight quarters that they faced And I think Seattle's only got one of the quarters And that would be the fourth quarter

Of the second meeting Otherwise it was even or Rams And it's like And you got the coaching The skill players The pass rushers And it just there's so many good players In this game

And this is what we should have Philadelphia's got the players They don't have the coaching one of the arguments I heard was the Rams peaked right around this second meeting. The Seahawks are peaking now. And the Rams are kind of, I don't know about leaking oil. They've only covered once in their last five games. And that was Week 18 against Carolina.

I got to tell you, I'm going to disagree. I think Chicago peaked at the end of the year. I think that win in Chicago was way more impressive than people think. They needed no turnovers, no penalty, no drop passes. And they won an overtime. with McVan Stafford. Chicago would have beaten virtually everybody in football, not named the Rams and Seahawks.

I think right now in the NFC today, Chicago's the third best team. And I think it goes, Seattle Rams Bears. I think that, you look at that, you go. Well, I mean, Ben Johnson. You can't argue that. I mean, Chicago, everybody's just, well, of course, the Rams won, their experience.

Chicago was a really good football team. They needed, the Rams played a perfect game. No penalties or drop passes in freezing weather. You can say that, but Colin, we both said it on Monday. Like, McVeigh might have called his worst game of the season. He even criticized himself for his run-pass ratio through three-quarters before realizing, oh, that's right. You know, I've got an awesome ground game with Kyron Williams.

And, oh, let me dust off Blake Corum. Yeah, maybe I'm complaining because I bet Blake Corum over props, because it was such a great matchup. And then he doesn't get carries until the fourth quarter, and he can't eclipse his total. But it was a bizarre game plan. You know how sometimes you think, overthink the room?

I feel like McVeigh might have done that against the Bears. That's the downside to being smart. Smart people tend to overthink stuff. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. All right, let's move on to the Baltimore Ravens.

Colin, listen, it's the offseason almost. You like hot takes. This is about as good as it gets. So obviously the Ravens have moved on from John Harbaugh, Well, you know, the Raiders have the number one pick in the draft in Fernando Mendoza. I feel like we speculated this a couple weeks back. But there's a report that claims the Raiders, sick and tired of losing, are looking for a big swing. And they may say, hey, we got the number one pick.

Do you want it? We want Lamar Jackson. And there is some chatter about this. Now, Lamar has the brutal cap hit, right? $74 million. I think it's number one in the league. And he has two years left on his deal. He's looking for more money.

You'd have to move Max Crosby with that contract. But, yeah, I think you should. I don't. First of all, I'd feel bad for Lamar Jackson. That Raider O-line at the end of last year was a disaster. Raven's O-line ain't any great either. I mean, it was shoddy. Well, Limbaums are very good center. Okay, that cancels out Colton Miller, who's an excellent left tackle.

So I think there's a bigger question here. So, you know, maybe we can ask Brady this next time he comes on. but a lot of front offices, they don't want to wait. Everybody's impatient in society, whether it's movies, TV, sports. By the way, nobody has any patience. Mendoza's not going to be a star, Colin, instantly. Jason, it's going to take a couple of years? Zero of the top 15 quarterbacks, paid quarterbacks in the leader in the playoffs.

Yeah. The way to win Super Bowls mostly is get a really, really super talented guy on a rookie deal or get Darnold on a team-friendly deal. So Lamar Jackson's too expensive. So the Raiders would get him and have to give up stuff to get him, and they wouldn't have the draft capital to surround him with really good young free players. A hundred percent agree. I'm with you.

My question is, are the Raiders going to be disciplined? Are they going to say, we've been so bad? We've been so awful. We're in the cellar in this division. Well, Brady's a very disciplined human, and Tom has influence. So my guess is, listen to Brady if he has influence. His career can be defined by discipline. You have to be disciplined to make this work.

Bringing in a guy that's worth a zillion dollars and giving up draft capital. It'd be one thing if I could bring in Lamar like in a trade and some way, you know, not have to give up two ones of three of four. But if you bring him in, you can't now pay Max Crosby. And now I have to replace Max Crosby. Well, I need multiple draft picks. That doesn't work. I agree. I totally agree.

Like people are saying, oh, the Jets should go after. or Lamar or Kyla Murray. Like, no, I'm starting from scratch. But again, we're in an impatient society. These owners, Colin, they want to win now. Okay? We're seeing a lot. Ten coaches got fired.

That's insane. So I would not be shocked if the Raiders did something goofy here, but I'm with you. I ain't trading that number one pick. Final stories to the NBA, Colin, where last night, Jonathan Cumminga made a surprise appearance, but only because Jimmy Butler's hurting out for the season. Obviously, Cominga and Kerr do not get along. He's really in the doghouse.

And remember, Cuminga requested a trade as recently as last week. How about this one, Colin? This is how ugly it is for Golden State. Before last night's game, GM Mike Dunleavy addressed this trade request that Jonathan Cominga made. As far as the demand, I'm aware of that. I think when you, you know, in terms of demands, when you make a demand, there needs to be demand. on the market.

So we'll see where that unfolds. But heard, always with these guys, I tell them I'm willing to work with them. You don't want to help people out, whether that's JK or any player on our roster. So we're good with, you know, that's his wishes, trying to

figure that out, but we've got to do what's best for organization. I'm getting old. I watched him play in high school. His dad was coached the Blazers. He was a star basketball player, I think, at Jesuit high school. Great. Is that the best way to be politically correct and be like nobody wants this guy? He said

there needs to be a demand. Kaminga could score 20 a game. I wouldn't remember any of the baskets. He's a long athletic guy, long history in the NBA of guys who can fill, get your buckets, but don't necessarily win you games or matter. I've covered them before. Kaminga's

a really long athletic guy, but I don't remember, you know, do you remember his baskets? I've covered guys where you remember it feels like a lot of their big baskets. Like, you know them, I know them. You can remember Jordan's big shots or Kobe's big shots. You can remember LeBron's great moments.

Kaminga's just a really long athlete. And again, if you think you're going to build around Kaminga, I don't know, my take so has been, after four years in the league with a really smart coach and a smart superstar, I mean, Draymond, Kerr, and Curry are hoping he would be a star. They're not rooting against him. They, like Jordan Poole.

It didn't work. They didn't like him. If Kerr, Curry, and Dremon, these are high-functioning NBA guys. They wish Cominga scored 18 a game, and the points mattered. He'll score 24 and they won't feel like they mattered. So, you know, I don't want to beat up on players, but if Kerr can't figure it out, he's pretty good. If Curry can't figure it out. If Draymond has loved a lot of his teammates, he's not a guy that needs the ball in his hands.

They want this Kaminga thing to work out, and it doesn't. Well, he's 23 years old. They just turned 23. We've got to at least give him a chance. I mean, Kurt's buried him on the bench. Field goal percentage, three years in a row, gone down. He doesn't fit with the Warriors. So why would they sign him?

Why did they keep him? There are eight points better a game when he doesn't play. I agree. But why did they keep him? Why didn't they move off him? Because there's no market for him. I mean, you tell me you can't get anything for community? Well, you can get anything.

You don't want to give him away. You put so much time into him. There's no market for him. It's weird how badly they bungled James Wiseman. Remember he went second overall? I don't even know if he's in the league anymore. That was a terrible draft. I don't blame him.

That was a terrible draft, and they were in their championship window. He was too young. He didn't have enough games. I mean, if you enter the Warriors with Draymond and Stefan Kerr, they're asking a lot of you. Like, Wiseman just, he didn't even be barely played five, seven. What are he playing college? He almost played no games.

Yeah, this was like the Golden Era Warriors with Curry versus LeBron. It's over. It stinks for the league, man. I miss these warriors. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News.

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Sam Darnold spent a lot of years in New York and Carolina. And then he caught Kyle Shanahan and Kevin O'Connell's eye. what did Andy Dufrein say? He found freedom after 500 yards of you know what? Yeah, he went through that same kind of tunnel. Sam Darnold's a good guy, never played the victim, kept improving, got along with teammates, respectful to coaches. Same with Matt Stafford.

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I give Mike and their coaching staff and John Schneider, you know, they have vision for players that are these jokers that allow you to basically be able to be stout enough against the run, but still really good in coverage, you know, where a lot of the explosives come up. They've got a vision for guys and they can be stout. against the run versus what they would say is typically most people would just look at and say it's a lighter grouping yeah i mean they just they don't miss on draft picks a lot of what seattle does is because they have a plan a lot of what the rams do is because they have a plan you're not just drafting players

you're you know you're drafting employees that fit into your culture that's why it's so important when you hire mcvay and mike macdonald very similar people that you've got to build the culture oh it's about building the roster there's a reason so much many teams miss on draft picks. It's not that the players aren't any good. They often leave and go other places and fit. You got to hire a CEO who can build a culture, and then you're drafting employees to fit into your culture. That's what Vrable gets in New England. They got like five rookies making an impact in New England. If you gave them the wrong coach, those five rookies wouldn't make that impact. I mean, it was not a very good draft last year. By left tackle standards,

Will Campbell was okay. By great, like this year has, I would imagine, the two of the top left tackles this year are like really high-end prospects. Will Campbell, his arms were a little short for left tackle. He's good, but it was not a very good draft last year. One of the weaker I can remember. And yet the Patriots have five guys, five rookies, who actually are making an impact.

Why? You're not just drafting players. You build a culture. You draft employees who fit into your culture. that's why so many good employees out there struggle at a company they go to a new company and they crush right we always want to blame the employee we want to blame the draft pick i think if you put keon coleman and the rams he would have been better as a rookie than he was with the bills or you put it with kyle shanahan right there's a reason that brought purdy seventh rounders a star in san francisco and joan jennings was he a sixth or a seventh rounder is a star in san francisco Why would that be? It's the culture. We did this the other day with the Rams.

The Rams have a left tackle undrafted. Nate Landman, inside linebacker, undrafted, got him through Atlanta. The Rams have more players that are highly productive star players in the third, fourth, fifth, sixth round than any other team in the league. Why? Because you're not just drafting players. You have a culture. You're drafting employees who fit into it. And so when I watch these two, I see like smart head coaches, really good GMs that are really good at drafting employees who fit perfectly into their plan.

And we did that graphic the other day with the Rams. It's insane. How many really good undrafted left tackles have we ever had? Not many. I mean, Pooka and Akua could be offensive player of the year category. Fifth rounder. Tyron Williams. Fifth rounder.

They're tight ends. They got third, fourth, fifth. brown guys. By the way, I had Diana Rusini on top of the last hour, this hour, and we were asking her about, you know, Buffalo right now, there's a rumor that Bill Belichick could get it. I don't buy it. I think Brian Davel to me, been there. Great fit. I think Josh Allen would choose him probably if he could. Here's Diane on the decision why they moved off Sean McDurman. look they made a move because they know the window is going to just get you know tighter and tighter here and it's why they moved on from Sean so patience is already not something that they have

and they're going to they're going to want to coach to come in here I think they're going to lean more towards someone who's done it and get this thing going because they're going to want to be in the Super Bowl next year so Harbaugh's off the market Jeff Halfley's off the market Stafansky's off the market. Who else? Who else am I missing? We've got three guys off the market. Sala.

Robert Sala, Tennessee, he's off the market. And also remember this. So are many of the best assistants. That's why hiring quickly matters. There's only a finite number of great coordinators on the market. So you want to be prudent. You want to take your time. But the Giants and the Falcons,

They got a head start in everybody. And all it takes is getting involved very quickly. And that's why the Giants didn't waste any time. They've done this several times. You start waiting. You become the fifth, six, seven team. I mean, somebody said that the Steelers are waiting for Chris Shula. Okay.

Oh, by the way, Mike McDaniel. Is this official? Chargers. It's official now. Yeah. Mike McDaniel. Justin Herbert, Ladd McConkey. Jim Harbaugh. Sounds like an AFC West champ to me.

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