The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 2 - How good are the Jets?

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

Dalvin Cooks says Jets are Super Bowl contenders Belichick says overspending isn’t sustainable   Guest: Jake Butt   #douggottliebshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We hear something. You'll be the, well, you'll be the first to know. You'll be one of the first. As soon as we get information, we'll share it with you. Let's dive in, though, to something that Dalvin Cook had to say in regard to the Jets. Now, obviously the Jets have replaced, I don't know, the Browns in previous years in terms of most discussed offseason teams. And, you know, Dalvin's been close. He's been the playoffs with the Minnesota Vikings previously.

He comes over after signing as a free agent. He told the New York Post on Monday, I think it's very realistic. He's talking about the chances of making a Super Bowl. Obviously, you look at the roster, you look at the people we've added, the things that we've already had. just combining that and one, I think there's something to be excited about. We've got to go out there and do our part. Now, I think it's very reasonable to say

there's parallels in some ways to Tampa. Some ways to Tampa. Well, I'm talking about when Tampa won the Super Bowl with Tom Brady. And I actually believe that when Tampa beat Green Bay, that was a big part of the seeds that were planted for Aaron Rogers to one out. I actually think it wasn't just Aaron Roger. I think Russell Wilson the same because two weeks later they're at the Super Bowl and Russell Wilson was sitting there with Roger Goodell.

And they're both watching a late 30s quarterback go to a franchise that has a lot of talent, but just didn't have a quarterback that could put it all together. And then if you remember at the end of that Tampa win in Green Bay in front of, remember that was COVID years, there wasn't a full crowd. But Brady takes off his helmet and, you know, he looks like a million bucks. Rogers takes off his helmet and, I mean, he just looked like the oldest man on earth. I'm sorry, Brady's in his 40s at that time. And Brady looks, you know, like his early 30s.

And, I mean, really, Aaron Rogers looked like a cowboy who had been sleeping out in the range for nights on end. And you look over, you're like, this guy, are you kidding me? The weather's better. You get more control of a different organization because you come in as a winner, as a Hall of Famer. You get to kind of do it your own way. You get to pick who you surround yourself with. Obviously, one big difference is Bruce Ariens had had success as a head coach previously. More success as an offensive coordinator.

and quarterback coach, you know, in terms of the guys, the Rothensbergers, the Mannings, the Kurt Warner's that he had dealt with previously. So he had a little bit more equity in within the league as opposed to Robert Sala. But the Jets have, whether they've drafted well or just drafted high, you know, so many of these teams that we've seen now become successful teams. The Chiefs were good. And then you part with Alex Smith to bring in a superstar quote. quarterback, and they become great.

But let's take them and set them aside, right? The Bengals, bad for, you know, almost. The year before they drafted Burrow, going the last two weeks of the season, they had the worst defense statistically in the history of the league. Bengals have been bad for a while, drafted high for a while. The difference was, I mean, remember, early on, they wanted to get rid of Zach Taylor. and Burrow getting hurt early probably helped them because they got the draft high yet again. But, I mean, there's no secret.

That helped him get Jamar Chase. But there's no real secret there. You draft in the top 10 for multiple years. And eventually, you think you're going to figure it out. Jacksonville is the latest of that. You draft relatively well for years. You load up on talent. and then you get a high-level quarterback,

and then, oh, yeah, by the way, that high-level quarterback is on a rookie contract and you just take off. That's what happened to the bills. So the Tampa was close. I mean, they just, James couldn't stop turning it over, but they had a lot of talent, and you just get the right guy in that spot.

Now, that's what the Jets have. The Jets have talent. Obviously, questions with the offensive line, and there were questions with the offensive line with Tampa. They drafted Tristan Worf's that same year that they end up taking, getting Tom Brady. And the Jets are still trying to figure out the jigsaw puzzle that is Mackay Beckton. And where to put him.

But I don't think it's unreasonable. The difference is the AFC stacked. The difference is that division stacked. The difference is, man, their schedule is a beast. But if you remember for Tampa, you know, people want to talk about the four-game winning street they put together at the end of the season. Two of those wins were against Atlanta who was terrible. They beat all non-playoff teams, but it got their confidence going, got them together, and then,

I mean, they beat the Packers, but that was kind of survival. Remember, they really survived against the Saints who had swept them in the regular season. Saints have the ball in Tampa Territory, Fumble. So there were some things that went their way, but I don't think it's crazy to think if things go right, the Jets could be right there, and they do have Aaron Rogers. The issues with it are, man, that offensive line, you know, makes me nervous. And outside of Aaron Rogers, who are the culture of winning guys they have?

And I guess you could say the same thing for Tampa. But the division is far tougher than that Tampa team. Yes, New Orleans was good. But Atlanta was not. Carolina was not. there are no easy games in the AFC East, and they're out of AFC East schedule is really difficult. But I don't think it's crazy.

I wouldn't label them a favorite. I wouldn't say they're going to be there. I wouldn't go all Jason McIntyre and start buying tickets to Vegas for the Super Bowl. But that doesn't mean it's not plausible. It's not possible. It's possible. likely? No, but it's more likely that they make the playoffs that they're really competitive than it is than they fall completely apart. Again, but things have to go right. Dalvin Cook has to stay healthy.

One of the reasons that he was available for as long as he was available is, didn't he have a bummed shoulder? Oh yeah, by the way, Colin has been on this. I've been the biggest defender of Aaron Rogers throughout his career, but Colin's been on this. He's been right. when Aaron Rogers is in a good place and he's motivated and he's having fun, like he's awesome, awesome. There's no way you can watch hard knocks and go like, man, I kind of get the, I kind of like Aaron Rogers. But when things are not great, when adversity strikes,

when he's constantly got guys in his face, when he doesn't love the things being sent in from the sideline, oh, yeah, everyone's on the same page in August. Are you on the same page in late October into? November. That's the question. And it's a very, very fair question. I've Doug Gottlie been for Colin.

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Welcome in. Look, there's lots of going on, obviously in the NFL, and we'll get you to heard line news, probably some of the names that are cut. You'll not be surprised. not be surprised at the number of former saints who are now Broncos, part of what we like to call the rabbi in the room. We'll get to that upcoming. But first, let's talk some college football. Jake Butt joins us.

Of course, he was a star at Michigan, and then the NFL where knee injuries derailed his career. Now he covers college football for the Big Ted Network, and he's kind enough to spend some time of this year in the herd on Fox Sports Radio. Jake, before I get to what Harbaugh said about, revenue sharing with players. Let me first get your thoughts on the suspension. It was supposed to be four games.

It was during the COVID year stuff. Then there were no games. Now it's three games. How do you think this affects this Michigan team that a hardball won't be the head coach the first three weeks of the season? Jake? They should be able to sleepwalk to a victory regardless.

But when you think about this, I look at this in the bigger picture and say as we go into the season, Michigan is the hunted, right? They are the favorite to win the Big Ten now. They were the hunter. And with that in mind, this is a great test, especially knowing Jim Harbaugh won't be on the sideline.

How well prepared are these guys to take on all the weight that they're carrying on their shoulder as being the favorites? And look, they haven't won a playoff game in a number of people in sports media are picking them to win the national championship. So without their coach on the sideline, we're going to get the chance to see the maturity and the leadership, especially early in the season on how they handle it. this team should be able to lead themselves and call their own plays to a three and no start. What's different about this year from last year? I think the main thing is, it's the quarterback position.

You go into last season, and at this point in the year, it was Jim Harbaugh made the announcement that Cade McNamara was going to start week one, and JJ was going to start week two. So there was some question marks there. And it was also year one of Jesse Minter's defense and year one replacing Aiden Hutchinson and David O'Jabo as the edge russers. well now we know that defense is going into year two with Minter and I think the defense is going to be fine that it's a they called it a no star defense

everyone stepped up last year they'll be one of the best in the country once again this year but now for the first time I mean Doug you've been covering the sport for a while when was the last time we went into a season and we're this confident about the quarterback position for the Michigan Wolverines I think the sky is the limit for JJ the only limits he has from a production standpoint is that Jim Harbaugh wants to run the ball 34

40 times a game. I think if Michigan wants to win a national championship or at least compete for one, even though they can run the ball 30 times a game and sleepwalk to 40-point victories, I think maybe you sacrifice some of that margin of victory and let JJ air it out 25 times a game early in this season to just kind of put some deposits in the bank. You'll need to draw on that, especially if you meet George in the playoffs or again some of the better teams in the country. You can't just dominate every single team on your schedule running the ball. I couldn't agree with you more, right? like this is what we've been waiting on for Michigan, right?

Where you have consistency. They seem to have the speed defensively to keep up with the SEC schools. And now the next step is you're going to have to be able. You can't be conservative offensively and just kind of ground and pound. You're going to have to let your quarterback win some games for you. And the best way to do that is let him win some games early in the year so that you know you can always line up and ground and pound and shorten the game. But can you play from behind?

and maybe sometimes almost play as if you're playing from behind against more talented teams, even though you're playing against inferior talents. Is that the philosophy? Oh, 100%. And listen, you look at this and you set the boundaries with the floor and the ceiling. The floor is extremely high for this team. Like you just said, like I just said, they got the best running back room in the country, a veteran offensive line.

They can hand the ball off and probably go. I mean, they did it against Ohio State, too. They could probably go undefeated and win the Big Ten championship. being heavy, heavy run. But once you get to the playoffs like you saw against TCU last year, like you saw against Georgia the year before, especially against Georgia, you're not just going to physically dominate that front. But even TCU, you struggled to run the ball on the first half when you went into that

game expecting it was going to be an easy sailing day rushing the ball. And all of a sudden, you're kind of back on your heels because you didn't put enough deposit throughout the season to give J.J. the confidence. And it showed early. But once the second half came around, you saw J.J., even though it wasn't a perfect game, saw that natural playmaking ability come about. And as I look at this team, too, they have some solid pieces that receiver. There's no Marvin Harrison Jr. or Mecca Igbuka.

But we need to find out what's the ceiling for that group? What's the ceiling for this passing game? And that's how we'll set the ceiling for the bigger picture for this team as a whole. Jake Butt joining us here in the herd. Let me play for you something that Jim Harbaugh said yesterday in regards to sharing revenue with players. Take a listen. We have to try to make it work. And we do.

We have to try to make it work. We have to try to make it better. And right now, the current status quo is unacceptable and won't survive. In my opinion, when we capitalize on the talent who should pay the talent for their contributions to the bottom line. I'm calling for a system that's fair, equitable, and benefits all involved. Don't exclude the student athletes from the profits. You can't say you're about diversity, equity, and inclusion. conclusion, if you aren't willing, conclude the student athletes in revenue sharing.

Okay, that sounds really good like on a stump speech, but first, like, aren't all the players already getting paid? Yeah, they are. They are, but how are they getting paid? You know, it's through boosters and collectives, and it's not, it's certainly not a revenue share. Let's just call this what this is, right? It's not amateur sports. This is big business, and it's big business that's growing exponentially. Think about how we used to consume content. We would, you know, live TV, we'd watch all the different networks. Nowadays, that consumption of live TV is decreasing, right? And that means there's a premium on live sports, particularly football. So with that in mind, more and more resources from a network standpoint are going to be poured into football at the NFL and the college level,

which means the revenue is going to continue to grow. With that in mind, let's just think about how delayed the NCAA, has been in acting on things that are inevitable. NIL, transfer portal. The NCAA has done a poor job of getting ahead of issues. To me, Jim is starting this conversation, and to me on a long enough time scale, Doug, that this is going to be multiple, multiple billion dollars a year.

There is going to be a union at some point, and revenue-share conversations are only going to pick up. So if I'm in a leadership position, and I have a saying this, I'm getting ahead of this conversation, and I'm going to try to get a fair deal struck in place that's going to allow these players to feel good. Both sides feel good about it, but get ahead of it. Be proactive and not reactive. I do think, you know, even if it's 15, 20 years from now, there will be a revenue share with the football players and the TV networks.

Yeah, but the reality of it, the true professionalization of it, changes so much. And honestly, I don't think for the better for the players. I mean, I just don't because it will, I mean, look, the big issue, and you tell me, I mean, you cover it, I do as well. But it's the portal combined with the NIL where it's not like professional sports. You don't have a multi-year contract. You can go one place and then you go another place where you can get a higher bidder or more opportunity next year and you bounce from place to place. That's what's kind of upset the industry. they're already getting compensated.

Oh, yeah, by the way, if you take from the revenue that's generated from the TV money, then that means the Olympic sports fall by the wayside. That means so many other things that revenue is used for fall by the wayside. And that's when you fight the diversity and inclusion, Title IX aspect of it, is you're Robin Peter to pay Paul. But the big thing is, like, it sounds great to say you want to be pros, but now they're going to get taxed on everything, and that eliminates the sports tax loophole, which currently exists.

Look, they're getting taxed on NIL anyways, right? Those are issues to me that are minor in this. And I agree with you from the Olympic sports standpoint, but I also know this. Football is the revenue-generating sport. And frankly, I don't necessarily disagree with you that this is going to negatively affect people. But when we talk about the truth of the reality,

that the revenue that's being brought in is going to boom exponentially. This conversation is going to heat up further. The players are going to sit here and say, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. How will we bring in nine, ten figures a year? And we're not getting any single piece of this, right? The conversation is going to increase. Again, I just think it's inevitable. Jake, they are getting a piece of it.

Not of the TV deals. I mean, where the money comes from? How does that actually matter? Right? I mean, and like, look, if you want to do based upon profits, they're going to do the same thing that they're going to do the same thing that the NFL does. Well, they'll bury the profits and make it just revenue that's spent and talk about it. It will end up worse, not better.

If you make them employees, that means they can be fired far more easily. And I know they can be run off now, but it will be the opposite. opposite of the intended effect. And like, what's... Go ahead. Those are all fair points. Those are all fair points. But I don't think that that's going to prevent this conversation from heating up.

No, I look. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. Listen, we talk about the transfer portal and we talk about how that, you know, guys can just jump ship. Well, you know, revenue share can actually help some of that. Because if you're sharing in the revenue, then you kind of, you have to earn that money, right? So maybe that can sit here. There's a good side to this, too.

You bring up fair points, but there's a good side of this to say, hey, listen, guys, you want to share in a pot of the revenue. Well, you can't just transfer every single year. That's going to hurt your financial gain. And guys are getting paid right now, but it's NIL. And frankly, this is a whole subjective thing. Who's to say I can't pay you $10,000 per autograph you sign, right? The boosters are getting involved in it.

We all know what it is. Now, the revenue share is a percentage of the revenue generated through TV deals. That is something separate from NIL. It completely is. Ohio State named a quarterback. He happened to be Marvin Harrison Jr.'s high school quarterback. As a Michigan guy, what do you think about that team in the South? Well, I'm excited to see this team take on the challenge.

You know, I never beat Ohio State when I was playing. So it's a new time really in the Big Ten conference where Michigan is the unchallenged favorite pick to win the conference here. I think rightfully so. That means how does Ohio State respond this year? As you just mentioned there, Kyle McCord's the starter. This dude has experience. He's been in the system. Here's what we know about the Buckeye system.

Going back to J.T. Barrett, any quarterback that has been named the starter has went on to get drafted in the first round of the NFL draft. The system knows how to develop great quarterback plays. So I'm not as concerned with McCord, or even if it's Devin Brown, that gets some playing time throughout the season. one thing I have my eyes on specifically is they have three offensive linemen selected in last year's draft. Any time you're introducing a new quarterback, it's about the pieces around them as much as him. We know that the two best receivers in college football, you have a deep running back room so that weapons are in place.

But the offensive line is there to help you establish a run game to take the pressure off you, to give you a clean pocket to take the pressure off of you. I have my eyes on that unit as much as I do on Kyle McCord. and that in mind, this schedule is tough. Notre Dame looked pretty darn good last week. And Ohio State has to go on the road. They got Penn State this year. There's going to be a lot of challenges for Ohio State

that we'll get to find out about the DNA of this team way before they travel to Ann Arbor to play Michigan at the end of November. How much pressure you think on Ryan Day? Because he's in that kind of hardball-reverse situation, right? As you said, you guys didn't ever beat Ohio State. That was the one thing he had to accomplish. They've now done in a couple years in a row. All of a sudden, now Ryan Day, who is the golden boy, can't beat Michigan.

What do you think the pressure's like on Ryan Day and Columbus? It's kind of like a paradox, right, Doug? Because you look at that Georgia game last year, they're a field goal kick away from playing in a national title. And they probably would have been national champions, in my opinion, last year. So how do you measure that year? You lost the Michigan two years in a row, almost won a national championship this year. But for every reason, I grew up in Columbus. I actually grew up on the east side of Columbus in a town called Pickering.

so I know what Ohio State football is about. You are judged specifically on that game when you play Michigan. And Urban Meyer even once had a quote. He said he'd rather lose every other game on his schedule and beat Michigan than to do the opposite. And I don't know if he really would stand by that, but it speaks on the importance of that specific rivalry. So as good as Ryan Day's been, he'll be judged by his record against Michigan. And it's been a long, long time since Ohio State's dropped three straight. So there is a certain level of pressure definitely needs to be a certain level of urgency

for Ohio State to go up to Ann Arbor and at a minimum be extremely competitive this year. I'm going to ask you a question that's probably unfair, right? Because I'm trying to gauge an entire conference's response, but since you work for the Big Ten Network and you cover it and you play it in it, Jake Butt joining us from the Big Ten Network. Doug Gottlieben for Collins, the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. What's the buzz around the league over the West Coast coming into the league next year? the buzz is it's probably the same evenly distributed across the league as it is across the country

you have college football traditionalists that say man this is not good i don't like it what about oregon state what about Washington state cal stamp but what about those teams and then you have people like myself who say listen just like we were talking about with the potential for revenue share expansion was inevitable this thing was set in motion years years years ago we the reigning Heisman trophy winner, Caleb Williams, is playing in week zero, and no one can watch him. So to me, it's inevitable. That in mind, I can tell you this, Doug, and I know you probably agree with me at least to this point. And I know a lot of fans that may not like it agree with me.

When Oregon plays Ohio State, when USC plays Michigan, when UCLA plays Penn State, when Washington plays Wisconsin, late in November, and there's conference title game implications on the line, whether you like this move or not, we will all be tuning in with excitement to watch those matchups. No question. I would guess most of the traditionalists in the Big Ten think Pac-12 is soft, right? They don't play defense. They can't come out here and win.

Like, Caleb Williams, is there another level from him that you need to see? He is phenomenal, man. I mean, he's probably one of the best, if not the best quarterback prospect we've had in a number of, number of years. And the question is, can he go back to back? And you've got to go all the way back to the 70s for Archie Griffin to go the last two-time, back-to-back-back Heisman winner. To me, I know he's going to put up big numbers.

I know he's going to put up big stats. In order to go back-to-back and avoid fatigue syndrome, voter fatigue syndrome, you have to do something more. I think it's less about his individual performance. Remember, they didn't go to the playoffs last year. They didn't run the table. They had some heartbreaking losses down the stretch of the season. if Caleb Williams can put up even similar numbers or slightly better numbers, and if UFC can go undefeated and run the table and find themselves in the playoffs,

I think that's a strong case to the Heisman voters to say this guy, we might have to vote him as back-to-back Heisman champion. It'd be hard to see, considering how many other great players have not been able to do it, but if there's a guy that could do it, it could absolutely be Caleb Williams. What about, speaking of the real, speaking of, in a row. What about Georgia? I mean, you lose Stetson Bennett,

so now you have anybody who will be younger, and they lose more attrition to the draft, but still a loaded team in your mind, likelihood of a three-peat, something that hasn't been done in 70 years, 80 years. Yeah, man, loaded is true at this point. Kirby's got that thing, like a well-oiled machine, man. They're going to reload every single year.

And I think the funny part is, I don't understand how you can bet against them at this point. The funny thing is you look on some other networks, and you see everybody's picking Alabama, and then I saw a screenshot of the Georgia locker room, and I blasted on every single TV is that screenshot of all the analysts picking Alabama. That's just free juice, man.

Look, Tom Brady was the unchallenged best quarterback of all time, and he still was talking about how he felt slighted when he was picked in the sixth round. Georgia, you're the back-to-back national champions, and everyone's picking Bama? Come on, man, that's free juice for them to go out there and play with a certain type of anger and play with something to prove.

And maybe most of all, Doug, why I like Georgia to win, you know, I played tight end. They have the best tight end prospect. Best tight end in college football, probably the best tight end prospect ever in Brock Bowers. And me being a tight end guy, I give a little extra bonus for that one.

Tighten on tight end love. Pause. Let's just take it in for one second. Jake, but Jake, can't wait to see it this fall on the Big Ten Network. Thanks so much for joining us, man. No problem, Doug. Take care, man.

Let's get to Ryan Music with the news, right? No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. We'll turn our attention to the NFL, a curious bit of news out of Arizona, where they decided to cut veteran quarterback Colt McCoy, while also confirming that Kyler Murray will start the season on the physically unable to perform list, meaning he will miss at least the first four games of the year.

So the Cardinals will now be starting either fifth round pick Clayton Toon or Joshua Dobbs, who they just recently traded for. I just, yeah. I mean, nothing says tanking like Clinton Toon or Joshua Dobbs. And this is not like Joshua Dobbs hate, but... What? Really? It does not feel like a recipe for success. And it's, I mean, I don't think any.

Yeah, I mean, it's just, you can't be more obvious in your tanking, and you don't have to, there doesn't have to be an investigation. It's just, it is what it is. They're trying to be bad. The big question to me is, if they accomplish the task of having the worst record in the league. Okay. What do they do with Kyler Murray? Because it's a different GM, a different head coach than the ones that drafted him

and the one that gave him the contract extension. And next year is the year that his new contract. kicks in against the salary cap? Can they find a taker? Or do you trade away the rights to Caleb Williams and use all of that draft equity to rebuild your team? I think it's a great question, one of which I do not know the answer to.

I don't know their plan. I think all of us think you draft Caleb Williams and you trade away Kyler Murray, but Kyle Murray's not a terrible quarterback. He's got some flaws. He's tiny. He has been injured when he didn't. When he didn't have new Copkins in the playoffs, he looked completely, completely unnerved. But it's not like he stinks.

And if you put it, if you could trade away Caleb Williams for the best, you know, the best trade possible, is that an easier way to rebuild instead of around one guy? It feels like the answer to that question that the Cardinals are potentially looking for is how does Kyler look when he comes back? Now, we've seen several athletes come back and recover from an ACL surgery and be just as effective as they once were. Now, the one big difference is outside of like an Adrian Peterson, someone who relies heavily on their athletic ability to play their position at a high level. It does take time or you're never quite the same. Yes, Tom Brady came back and won plenty and was just as effective, but Tom Brady being a primarily,

pocket quarterback didn't necessarily need the athletic twitchiness that Kyler relies upon and was actually the reason why he got hurt, that non-contact injury. So I think that's, if I were the Cardinals, the only issue then becomes you're not going to get nearly the package you would expect if Kyler comes back, doesn't look right, and you're ready to move on. Other teams aren't going to be like, we don't want your damage good. Well, the other thing that's interesting, again, is he's really been successful. He's only really played in one system. Talking about Kyler.

Right, right. Right? He's only really played in one system. And now you bring in, Drew Petsing is their offensive coordinator. And he was in Cleveland the past couple of years, okay, as their quarterback coach. He's never been an offensive coordinator. Matter of fact, if you go back when he was in Minnesota before he came to Cleveland as their quarterbacks coach with Jacob, Jacoby Brissette and Deshawn Watson last year, he was a wide receiver coach. So what kind of system do they put in and is it one that is even made for Kyler Murray to be successful in?

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None of it works without the students being part of the process. Are we going to compensate them for their piece of the pie? It's a question. It is a question. I heard this. This is an interview with Bill Belichick. And there's lots of talk of the Patriots. I don't know what this team looks like.

I don't know what the top end of it. They're obviously going to be far, far better coached offensive. when he got Bill O'Brien, knows what he's doing. I'd been there before, obviously been with Alabama. He was a pro head coach. His GM work got him fired in Houston. But what kept him employed was he's really good with the offense. And that's what Mac Jones needs.

Now, outside the numbers, do they have the wide receivers? It appears, you know, with Ramon J. Stevenson, and now they go out and get Zeke. they have two good, solid running backs. It feels like we know what they're going to do, right? Run the ball, shorten the game, try and be fairly conservative offensively, and then try and win with their defense in a division where, you know, you have potentially high-scoring offenses with the speed and crazy talent that you have in Miami, and, of course, all the scoring that you have in Buffalo and the same with the Jets.

It's a fascinating look at different ways of doing the same thing. Okay, the same goes for the spending. Patriots are almost bottom of the league, I think, 31st in cash spending, but 15th in terms of their cap spending. Take a listen to Bill Belichick in this interview and what he says about the difference in the two philosophies. Can't you create cap space by spending more cash and guarantees? So teams like the bills are...

Temporarily, you can. You can't sustain it, no. I mean, you can't sustain the 20 years of success that we sustain by overspending every year without having to eventually pay those bills and play with a lesser team. Do you think it is possible? So I think if you look at the teams that, you know, have done that, that's kind of where some of them ended up. You know, Jacksonville back in 14, the Rams are going through it. Tampa's going through it now.

So I'm not saying there's any right or wrong with it. It's just a different way of doing things, and there's the results for doing that. And the point he makes is a good one. And even the Patriots, people forget. Now, they had all the opt-outs after Brady left, but they also, they were in a little bit of cap hell there. And that was a readjustment year. Even that year, they did go seven and nine. It might have been his best coaching job in all things to consider.

I mean, Cam Newton couldn't throw a football. He threw for less than 100 yards in, what, three-season? starts and they still nearly got to 500. Kind of crazy. But it's the idea of, would you rather have a successful team for a sustainable portion of time, a successful team for a sustainable portion of time? Or, okay, or would you rather have a successful team for a, or would you rather, hey, every once in a while, we're just going to go for it, go all in, and the hell with the

ramifications, like the Rams. Two soups, and two at least at this point, terrible seasons, and this one doesn't feel like it's a good season. There's a healthy mix there. You can do it both ways. But I think Belichick, he's telling you and has told you over time

what he believes. And maybe the point should be made that the greatest part about the Brady and Belichick marriage was that somebody convinced Brady not to take the most. And whoever did that, that's sustain that success. Many are applauding what Jim Harbaugh said.

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