The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 2 - How good are the Longhorns?

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

Fox Sports college football analyst Joel Klatt joins the show in studio to talk about Texas' win over Alabama and why the Longhorns are real national championship contendersSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hour number two at a Wednesday. Live in L.A. It's the herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Joel Clatt, five minutes. Can't wait to have Joel Clatt stop by the show. Texas, Bama, USC on fire.

What to make a prime time, Dion Sanders. Of course, Joel Clatt. Sadly, many of his records being broken by Shadur Sanders. We don't love that. But we do love Platt, and we do love. Shadur Sanders in prime time. The numbers for Colorado, it's just the power of stars. It's incredible to me.

I mean, I thought it would be an interesting story. They'd get blown out by TCU, and they'd limp to three wins, and it'd be fun. The fact that they're the highest rated college football program in America, they beat Texas Bama. What? Texas Bama, we sat before the season. We couldn't wait for that. That was the game of note in September in college football.

I, you know, one of the things I love about sports, it just gives you gifts you never knew you were getting Linsanity. Sosa McGuire. You're like, you know, stuff comes out. You don't know, expect it. It's just, it's amazing. And it's just, it's almost like sometimes in sports, like in horse racing, I'm not a somebody that knows much about it. But like, like, all of a sudden, a horse wins the first race. And then they win the next.

And all of a sudden, it's like, we got a triple crown winner. And it's like, that story doesn't last very long. And it's magical. And it goes away. and you don't talk about it again. You know, is, is, what if Dion just bolts? Could happen? He could be in play.

You've also got to ask Clatt. Remember last week he was really hyping how Texas didn't have a chance at Alabama and road teams going against top ten? Remember that? I agreed with him. Wow. I tried to tell you. Texas is for real. And this Alabama team, this quarterback situation ain't good for Nick Stapman.

He's just not very good, no, Roe. Yeah, he's not. So it's really. is interesting, though, through two or three weeks of college football, I do not ever remember a conference having more amazing quarterbacks than the Pac-12. Oh, yeah. They got six NFL guys. The guy that came to Oregon State via Clemson, I was down on, what do we got there?

Clemson probably wishes they still had him. They looked awful in that loss to Duke, yeah. So it's, I don't remember a year, and I don't kid yourself, all these NFL execs, they're watching college football on Saturday, and it's changing some opinions. Like Minnesota right now with Kirk Cousins, they, as you suggested, letting Dalvin Cook go, why would they do that? Maybe the takeaway is, all right, we have the 12th draft pick. We move up a little and get a Riley Leonard at Clemson.

I mean, the Kirk Cousin story is, I think it's documented. Freeze is in big games. Great guy. Not a lot of it. Certainly had a wonderful career. It's Andy Dalton-esque, where it's like nice guy. games, get you to the playoffs, but there's a clear, it's not the trajectory has flattened out. Yeah, and they had a great team last year with a good run, very fortunate with the, you know,

11 and 0 in close games in the regular season. It felt like the charm season. Now it's time to move on and Kirk will get another big payday from somebody. Although that Niners talk, like, remember Shanahan and McVeigh, they love Kirk Cousins. They go back and read the story. I don't think you can move off Purdy. Well, I would agree. If you do, you've got to move off some of your.

weapons. But the McVeigh angle is the interesting one. Does McVeigh make a play? What do you do with Stafford? Listen, Stafford, if the O-line did not allow, only allowed a couple of quarterback hurries, and the Rams are clearly, because of Havenstine's in his 30, 31 years old, they're going to draft the tackle at some point next year. Where they drafted, I don't know. They have like an undrafted left tackle, I believe. So they're, they're, they look pretty good in the interior right now. But my takeaway is, is they need a defensive end and a tackle. I don't know if they're going to take a quarterback early.

I mean, if Stafford plays well, when Matt's healthy, he's a top six quarterback in the league. So by the way, so I said this yesterday. If I'm Robert Sala, here's what I can sell to my locker room. This is the best defense in the league. We finally have a big time running game that can compete with anybody. And Zach Wilson sat around for six months and learned how to play this position from Aaron. You can sell that to the team. There's Robert Sala on the new Jets with Zach Wilson.

I don't know why people are trying to put an obituary under our team name. I do want to make it very clear. Zach's our quarterback. We've got a lot of faith in Zach. We're really excited about his opportunity. But we're rolling with Zach and excited for him and, like I said, this opportunity that he's going to get. Now, there are three things that would trouble you. He has the worst passerating in the NFL in the last two years.

He's never had a single game in the NFL where he's completed back-to-back over 60% of his passes. And he averages 17 points a start. That's not great. In fact, the highlight play of the game by Garrett Wilson was basically because it was a remarkable catch due to a poorly thrown ball. Okay, so that was the highlight offensively. This game, thank God for Josh Allen's four turnovers and an electric punt return. but I do think you can sell to the team. Defense run game is the best the Jets have had in 10 years.

Don't lose us the game, Zach. But he has a history of playing hero ball. I was never a big fan. He panics. He's small. He runs when he shouldn't. His decision making, especially against zone, is a problem. But listen, if you've watched him play, he's just not accurate consistently throwing the football.

And he just not. And so I said this yesterday. I don't think they're going to win a ton of games with Zach Wilson, but I think because of the defense and run game and special teams, they'll be in games. They're not going to get blown out. This defense, even against Dallas, and Dallas is a nine and a half point favorite, that's one of the scary games.

But you could see the Jets defense if they could sustain any drives offensively at all against the Cowboys. I think the first half, if I had to bet, I'd bet the first half Jets, because I think they'll keep it close. Because I don't think Dax going to move the ball in the Jets. I just think over the course of time, if I've got 39 to 40 minutes of possession, the Jets defense wears down. And eventually, DAC will be able to extend some drives, 8-10 play drives, keep the cowboy defense on the sideline. That's the thing. You've got to get out of three and outs.

That's when defenses wear out. We never got worn out of Joel Clatt, the voice of college football at Fox Sports. Joining us now on a Wednesday. Well, well, well, well. You have got to be feeling very, now you're taking a brief sabbatical off Colorado football. You have Penn State at Illinois. That's right.

So let's start with Texas Bama. I was as surprised as you. Quinn Ewers had not been good against good teams, had struggled on deep balls and he was magical. The other thing that jumped out to me, Texas looks just like Bama with a better quarterback. Like, I think Sark has a top three roster in the sport. So this looked way different than the other times that Bama can get beat here and there, right?

You either do it like Georgia did where you line up and you're like, hey, we're as good as you and we can win. Or you do it like Ole Miss did back in the day or Texas A&M and it's wild plays and turnovers and the such. This was just a team that lined up in Bryant-Denny and said, we're better than you. And we're going to prove it. Now, namely, and let's be fair to Alabama, because this is still a really good team, they're deficient at quarterback. They don't have a quarterback that's going to go out there and be able to against a good team and a good roster going to that 30, 35 point threshold.

Texas has a quarterback like that. And then more importantly, and more to your point, Texas has an offensive and defensive line that can go play with anybody. Anybody. And they dominated at times on both sides of the ball up front. Here's the evidence of that. If you look at the second half when Alabama really needed it, in particular in the passing game, that pass rush was great from Texas. And then, this was my favorite part.

7.14 left in the game. It's a 10-point game. Alabama's got three timeouts. If you're looking at that from an Alabama standpoint, you're thinking to yourself like, okay, we've got to save our timeouts and get the ball back with about five minutes to go. And then it's a two-possession game with three timeouts, five minutes to go. It's like, okay, like that's manageable. Maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't. Texas ran the ball three straight times for a first down. Not on a zone read, not on an RPO reading straight handoffs. Steve Sarkesian, who's one of the best, most creative play callers in college football,

knew that he was better up front and handed it off three straight times. Then Bama's got to use their three timeouts. Now there's five minutes to go. No timeouts. It's a 10-point game. It's third and seven. What did Sarkesian do? Handed it off again on third and seven.

Bam is playing a pass defense. I believe it's a pass. Everyone thinks it's a pass. A first down basically ends the game. It's two possessions. He runs it. Not with a read. Not with an RPO.

Not with a trick. Straight up the middle. Third and seven, first down. Texas walked onto the field with 714 left offensively and never left the field. That's the mark of a team that can go the distance, can go to the playoff. That was a really great performance from the Longhorns. Alabama can't throw the football. Is this the one Sabin year? Where they're just not really a national title contender?

Well, it's still hard to say that because if you look at their schedule, Texas is really the only team on their schedule that can do to Bama what they did Saturday night. Not many teams are going to force Bama into a must throw. You're in a deficit mode. and if they don't play in that mode and they have a lead and they can run the football, then they're going to be fine. So I hesitate because maybe they make a change at quarterback. Maybe they don't. Milrose starts getting a little bit better.

They're going to win most of their games. LSU's not stopping them. LSU doesn't know how to play with Harold Perkins all of a sudden, who's the best defender in college football. And they've got them off the ball as a linebacker, can't make a tackle for loss. It's wild, wild the coaching mistakes that are going on at LSU. So I look at Bama and I'm like, nothing prevents them from running the table in the SEC and at least playing Georgia in the SEC championship game.

So at that point, like I just don't buy into this Bama's done type of talk. I just think Texas is really good this year. Yeah. All right, Colorado. Don't be so begrudging. No, I'm not. I just is, you know, I don't buy it, do you? Well, no, no.

Sports gives us McGuire Sosa, Butler in the national championship, Lynn Sanity in New York. This doesn't feel like, I'm not saying it's just going to now unravel. What is the ceiling of this team? Okay, so that's a good question. Big ceiling week after week, have a couple injuries. This year. This year, what's the ceiling?

Okay. Number one is you have to, and this is exactly the route I just took with Alabama. You have to be fair and evaluate what the team is and who it's, going to face. Just did it with Bama. I told you Bama is still going to be favored the rest of their schedule. Okay. A fair. Colorado has to play as tough a schedule as anybody out there because the Pact 12 is the

deepest conference in the country. Right now it is. Yeah. They face Oregon in two weeks. Is it that? Eugene? That's in Eugene. Oh, boy.

Then you've got to come home the next week and play Caleb Williams in USC. Oh, brother. They still have UCLA on that schedule. They still have Utah on that schedule. They still have Oregon State on that schedule. So what is the ceiling for Colorado? And by the way, I'm going to say this, and Dion will play it for his team because he'll feel like this is disrespectful. I think Colorado is an eight-win team with the schedule that they have.

You would have taken that a month ago. Of course. Eight wins is great. Of course. That's plus seven in the win column. That's unheard of. That's unheard of. Remember, this is a one-eleven team.

They played seven ranked opponents last year. The lost by an average is 36. their 2 and 0 ranked 18th in the country and they've got a quarterback that some are considering a top 10 pick this year if he decides to come out. He's leading the country in passing. As somebody who went to Colorado, sparingly to class, but nonetheless, you went to Colorado. You know what? You're actually pretty accurate with that. Would it bother you if they win eight games, win a bowl game, and he bolts to the NFL?

Would you feel used? Well, let's just play hypothetical. But I don't need to. He's not going to the NFL. I don't know if he's going to be at Colorado for sure. I can't say that, but he's not going to the NFL. Why? Deanne doesn't want to coach in the NFL. He's told me that point blank to my face. He believes that his role is more as a mentor. He loves coaching kids. And this is where he feels called. In fact, the word that he used with us in our meeting, and you'll know this because he's very forward about his. his faith, he believes this is his ministry. To be there for kids in college, be a father figure to kids in this moment in their life, guys like Jimmy Horn Jr. or Dylan Edwards, who's he's been coaching since he was in Little League. He's not going to the NFL, period. Now, whether he's at Colorado for any length of time, I'm not sure. I'm not sure because there can be a lot of people that come calling. I obviously hope that he stays. Dion is not going to coach in the NFL. Okay, since I'm older than

barely. If I was your father and you were my quarterback son, and you came with me as I took over a program, I would say, listen, son, strike when the iron is hot, I think you, if you had a

Sederer Sanders year, I'd say listen, Joel, trust father, go pro. So I just think you don't get the money back. I absolutely think after Caleb Williams, there'll be people that argue he's the second best quarterback. What do you do? What do you project? I mean, I mean, it's a great question and a great problem to have, right? You talk about a champagne problem.

Right. That is a champagne problem. Having said that, I have seen Drake May live and I don't want to take away. Like, Drake May is unbelievable. Quinn Ewers now is playing great. Michael Pinnock's is going to be right up there. Riley Leonard is going to be up there. And this is all outside of Caleb Williams already. So you always have to take your draft evaluation in context of the strength of the position group that year. And this year looks like it's going to be a ridiculously strong quarterback. I think just the PAC 12 alone.

I totally agree with that. Five guys. By the way, five or six guys in the PAC 12 would start everywhere in the SEC. Think about that. So if I'm Shudor Sanders, then other things have to be called. into question. Now, would anyone fault him if he was rated as, hey, you're the second or third or even fourth best guy? We think you'd be a top 10 pick? Yeah, yeah, he might go. Absolutely. And I don't think anyone would begrudge him that opportunity. But if you're him, and it's the NIL era, and you've got

Sanders on your back, and you can make multiple millions playing for your dad, and you know that your dad's staying probably next year. Why? Because Travis Hunter followed him. there and Travis Hunter can't leave. I don't think Deon's going anywhere because of Travis Hunter. Travis followed him to Jackson State. Now to Colorado. He can't transfer because he hasn't graduated. So Deon's going to stay for Travis.

I think Shadour might stay for Travis. In particular because of the draft strength of the quarterback position this year. And when you project it forward, potentially he would be in the number one conversation the next year. I don't think he gets into that conversation with Caleb. No, he won't. He won't. And by the way, Drake May.

Drake May is big moves, big arms. Drake May is a great prospect. At this point, they're all playing like top five picks. Right? So that's a, again, that's a champagne problem if you're Shador Sanders. Yeah. So I'm just going to say it. The USC looks really good.

Oh, I didn't know what you're going to say. Let me just listen. We do something on this show, and it's a tricky word. It's called journalism. Big J. look right down the barrel of truth. I got to tell you something. When Mason Cobb plays, that linebacker, NFL guy,

I look at that team and I think, I just watched Alabama. You don't think USC could go toe to toe with Bama? Okay, so what, what, what, I see a smirk coming. Something snarky is on your tongue. Go ahead, I'm ready for it. It's actually, it's the pain. What you're seeing right now, America,

if you're watching, is the pain of me about, to utter the phrase, I agree. Tasted like vinegar. They are, I'll say this. They're good, man. Offensively, I mean. Just as good or better than last year. Oh, I think they're better.

The lines better. I don't disagree with that. And they've got the weapon of Zachariah Branch. And they've got this Lloyd, this running back they got from South Carolina. He is a, he is a game-breaking player. I never had questions about their offense. Okay, so like whether they were as good, just a little bit worse, a little bit better. Their offense was going to be their offense, okay?

And I think their offense is a little bit better than it was a year ago. Now, that's not the question for USC, and it's not the question for any Lincoln Riley team. The question has always been for Lincoln Riley to play at the top end, to put them in the echelon of a Bama or a top four team in the sport. Would they play requisite defense? and I'm here to tell you, when I watch the game film, they are better up front. Now listen, I still don't love their scheme. I don't like their corners. I just don't love their corners. They're disruptive up front. Bear Alexander gets after it up front.

Their linebacker core is faster and better tacklers than they were a year ago. That disruptive nature that they have means that they are now, what I would consider, is a good defense. They're not a great defense. But Lincoln Riley's never had. a good defense. And I don't think this offense needs a great defense. I don't either. I don't either. So to your point, in the in the playoff, folks, if you actually study the playoff and what the nature of games are in the playoff, at some point, you've got to go win a game 45-42. This team can absolutely do that. Not a question in my mind. They're better than the Baker-Mayfield,

Oklahoma team that took Georgia to overtime in the Rose Bowl. The only question I have for USC is It's only one. It's the depth of that schedule. Again, we go back to the PAC 12. They've got to play a lot of great teams in a row at the end. In fact, they play nine consecutive weeks against Power 5 opponents to end the season because their last week on Thanksgiving is a buy, which is wild. Nine consecutive weeks against Power 5 opponents is unheard of in this sport. And so the fact of the matter is that their most difficult opponent, I believe, is their schedule. Yeah. All right, I want to circle back to Alabama. So Joel Clatt has his top 10. I agree down the line. I really do. You know, the only one that I felt like was too low was USC. I was USC. I was going to say I would flip SC in Penn State. Okay. I would put USC 6, Penn State, seven. Other than that, I agree down the line. This is awkward today. A lot of agreement. Hey, journalism doesn't have to be conflict-driven. The truth is the truth. It's just making me rethink all my positions. Okay. So as I look at that, and I look at Bama at 9, I know a story.

Saban, you know, his agent Jimmy Sexton years ago, said, hey, I'm not, I don't want to be sitting there in my 70s and not competitive. Tell me when it's time. So he'd get a TV job wherever he wanted. He's just very good at that stuff. I look at BAM at 9, and I don't think offensively, they are close. to eight of the seven or eight of these teams. Like I mean, with Cam Rising healthy,

they're not close offensively to these teams. No. Most of these teams, not even in the same ballpark. You think Saban, after that thing, look at Texas and thought, here they come to my conference.

And Sark is going to be, do you think Saban has thought about for the first time? Let's put it to, let me put it to you this way. Retirement. I view, I view Clemson and Bama very differently, right now, and they're both one-on-one, and lost big games.

Okay? Now, Clemson loses to Duke, and these were the powers, right? Remember four years ago, we thought, like, are we ever going to get a national championship game that is not Clemson and Alabama? I view these totally different, and the reason is, because Alabama is still, when you look at the talent composite, the best roster in college football, they're a quarterback away from being just fine. They're a quarterback away from being a winner in that game against Texas. Well, come on now. Well, so with the I mean, you got to have the quarterback. I understand, but in the transfer portal era, it happens like that.

Look at what happened at Colorado. Well, I don't doubt. I don't doubt next year. But I'm saying today. Well, he's not going to walk away in the middle of the season. And I don't think that he's looking in the crystal ball into the future with the way that they've recruited in the roster that they have and thinking to himself like, boy, we're in the middle of a slide. I sat on this show years ago. And I made the mistake of saying the dumbest thing I've ever said on TV ever.

I said, Alabama has a Nick Saban problem. It's the stupidest thing I've ever said. It's the most regret I have of anything I've said on the air. And I won't repeat it. I will not repeat it. And the reason is, is that their roster, his drive, and the reckoning that is the Alabama program can and will fix itself. They get one player in the transfer portal,

and they will be a national title contender like that. Very good stuff today. You know what? You were really good, too. Yeah, well, sometimes. Jay Mack was, waiting for the tension, the angst, and it never got delivered today. I didn't feel like it did.

Now, sorry to disappoint, Jamie. Penn State, Illinois, will it be competitive? You know, Illinois has struggled. Remember, they lost all those draft picks, three players in the top 66 picks. And so they're 0-2, and Penn State's really good. Yeah. Really good. Their quarterback, by the way, he's going to be in the conversation next year as potentially

the number one pick. Champagne. Champagne problems. Have you ever been there before? Yes. I have been there. In fact, we showed up to do an Illinois, Ohio State game in the COVID year, and it got canceled. So I drove about 118 miles an hour back to O'Hare.

You fly into O'Hare and then drive? Yeah, that's right. Is that how you doing? I'm going to be in Chicago this weekend. You are. Come on down. I'm busy. Hey, Colin, can I ask him a question?

What if Arch Manning had picked Alabama? Would he have started that game against Texas? No. He would have started the third quarter. Yeah, their group didn't want him to start. I think the better question, is like, what if Shudor Sanders would have not followed his dad and gone there? What if Sam Hartman would have picked Bama and not Notre Dame?

That's a good one, right? Like the Sam Hartman sweepstakes. Yeah. We're going to see that maybe next week in the Ohio State Notre Dame game. I think that's a good one. Oh, that's next week? That's next week. Oh, that's fun.

I agree. That is big. I agree. You know what I mean, though? Like, that's... Sure. It's, to me, it wasn't about Arch. Arch wanted to sit.

The family wanted him to. sit for a year. Because he went to a small high school. Correct. And this was going to be a big jump. The question for me is like, how did none of these people, you know, like land Hartman? If Hartman was going to transfer, that was the sweepstakes of the offseason. Yeah. He's good. He is. I think he's a second round good. I think he's good. Or Chador was that guy. Joel Clatt. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart Radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like.

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He would be interested in the future, depending on the success of the show. I kind of like that. Apparently NFL Network has already been filming with Stafford and had him miced up in the season one blowout in Seattle. His wife is interesting, so will she be part of it? Yes, probably. Yeah, I think they were college sweetheart. So we got Matt Stafford's one. Yeah, I have been on record.

I don't see... I would love to see Jimmy Garapolo. I would love to see Garoppolo. Well, he turned it down. That's a list of people who said no. I've heard from several people that Jared Gough is going to be one of the guys. We'll see. Is that what your sources are saying?

I mean, Goff bought a house. How about Justin Fields? Now, he turned it down too. That would be interesting. All those guys said no. So if you remove that and you remove Mahomes, who was the other guys that did? Kurt Cousins and Mariotta.

Go get. Derek Carr, he'll be the Kirk Cousins. Family guy. It's interesting. I don't see Josh Allen's name on that list have turned it down. Oh, I think he'd be great. Single kid. I would love to see her here behind the scenes week one, wouldn't you? Getting roughed up by the

Jets, three picks. I mean, that fumble flipped the game. Mark Sanchez called it like the new butt fumble essentially. Gosh, I've watched it 50 times. Anyone else jump out of you that you'd like to see? I wouldn't have picked Matt Stafford.

Matt's pretty quiet. I think Jimmy Garoppolo, if I had to pick my three, I'd pick Jimmy Garoppolo, Josh Allen. Jalen Hertz is kind of interesting. He said no, according to that. I know. I'm just saying if I got my pick, I think his story's interesting. You know, how about this? Yeah, that's a good one.

How about Anthony Richardson? That kid's got a big... 21. That's why I like it. That's why I like it. That kid, I'm telling you something. There were a couple plays in that game. Anthony Richardson is it.

I mean, he is explosive. I told someone I was like, I don't, I can't ride with the Colts against the Texans. And they said, go look up Anthony Richardson's next gen stats passing chart. And I went to it and it's staggering. Like 93% of his passes were to the right side of the field. He's not even looking to the left at all. Yeah. And, you know, if I'm seeing this and other gamblers are,

Domeko Ryan's probably aware of the tendencies for Richardson. This could be a tough one for Richardson. the way, Damico Ryan's had a good defensive game plan against Lamar Jackson. No, Demico's working a coach. I mean, they loved him in San Francisco. They really thought, I mean, they've been lucky. Robert Sal and Demico back-to-back. Yeah, by the way, they're pretty good coaches.

We didn't give, I think Steve Wilkes is at the new DC in San Fran. Yeah. I don't think we gave him enough credit for that gameplay. I mean, Kenny Pickett was shook for the first. That is a perfect word. He was shook. Didn't know what he was looking at it. I don't want to say seeing ghosts, but like I think they stacked him five times.

No, he looked panicked. It was not great. Next up, New York Giants, the G-Men, coming off that beat down to Dallas at home, that embarrassment, 40 to nothing. No positive spin on that, but Dexter Lawrence wants to make sure it doesn't define New York season, saying, we got embarrassed. But you've got to own it and move on, don't let it linger. That's the message we're going to live by. Just go out and execute. Prepare the same this week as we did last week.

I thought we had a good week of practice and meetings, so keep preparing the same way, and the results will come. Will this linger? 40-0. No, no. I think sometimes when things are so bad, one time I went on a vacation. It was so bad. We got terrible weather.

We literally, it was so bad to start. We ended up ending up in a city. We hadn't planned. We lost luggage. And we just woke up the next morning and said, it can't get worse. The vacation starts this morning. with breakfast. The first 48 hours, first 36 hours were such a disaster. I just said, everybody,

breakfast this morning, the vacation starts. And from that point, it was great. So sometimes I think you have to say, guys, the season starts this week. We weren't ready to play. You can say to you guys, we didn't play starters. Our old line is young. That's the best defense we'll face. I think it'll have zero lingering effect. Okay, so two things. Number one, you just said you checked baggage? I thought we didn't do that. I was gut. It was kids baggage. I don't check baggage. Okay. Just to be on the same page. My wife doesn't believe in a lot of my theories. You know, I get static for not wanting to check bags?

I don't even know if I checked a bag to Europe. I don't check bags. I just, I wash stuff. Yeah. Okay, so the next thing is, do you do anything cheesy if you're Brian Dable? Like, hey, guys, let's go out and find some yard. We're going to dig a hole and dump the tape and literally buried you in anything sticky like that? No.

There's a track record of teams with a good coach and a capable. quarterback get humiliated on national TV, bet them the next week. That's kind of the rule. Wink Martindale against Josh Dobbs in Arizona. I already bet the Giants. No, Giants was my side. Giants at four is one of the best of the week. I just will look five and a half right now. Okay, I'm going to lock it down. Four or five and four was from Monday. I'll lock down five and a half New York Giants. Yeah. So I've locked down today, Kansas City minus three and the New York Giants minus five and a half. I've locked those two in. By the way, remember Jonathan Gannon, that goofball, who's...

Sorry, that was hard. He's a coach. He was coaching Arizona. He had a bad moment on camera. He had a bad moment, and he's like, I want killers in here. He got killers. They lead the league in penalty yards after one week. 122, they had nine flags, very undisciplined.

You could call it a mess. You know what Survivor leagues are, right? We have to pick one team to win every week, and you don't pick them again. I may take the Giants here on the road, because you can't use them again. They're not good. Do you care or not? Yeah, I care. You know who I picked week one?

No. Seattle. I'm not joking. Not only did I go 0 and 5, blazing 5, I pick Seattle. What's happening? It's just one week. I was the New York Giants of Sportscasters. Yeah.

It was a bad week. I just got to pretend it didn't happen. By the way, Dexter Lauren said, don't let it linger. Don't let that linger. I'm not. By the way, this is inappropriate. But when you hear the word linger, if it's inappropriate, don't say it.

Let me just say it. Come on. The audience. You hear the word linger. What word instantly comes to mind? Nothing. No? Okay.

I won't say it. Fine. Everybody listening has to know. I have no idea what you're talking about. It's a guy thing. Not really. Okay, fine. Moving along, the NBA has had some issues over the last couple seasons with teams resting their stars.

Well, just today, the NBA Board of Governors approved a new rule. Colin, the Clippers are going to hate this. Prohibiting teams from resting two-star players during the same game. I think it's a great move. It's hilarious. The league defines a star player as someone who has made an all-star or all-N-Ba-team in the last three years. I think this is the least you can do. Baseball players pay twice as many games. I don't want to hear about our schedules. Just bake in all you have to do, like barring an injury. So basically what they're saying is LeBron and AD can't both be out. How about our staff? Oh, they did show the Lakers. I love how they led with the Clippers, Paul George, and Kauai. Under the new rules, are you ready for this?

Teams find 100K for the first violation, 250K for the second, and 1 million more than previous penalty for each additional violation. How about 1 million first, 5 million next, 10 million next? $250,000. That's nothing. Steve Balmer, that's Ashre Maimon. Yeah, that's the new owner who's all wealthy. It's rounding errors.

From his dad's business. Like, come on, that's not. I like the idea, but the punishment's stupid. So it's interesting. This also is basically saying if you want to rest your scrubs, a.k.a. non-all-stars, all-NBA guys. Go ahead. We don't care. But the stars, that's who people are paying for. No kid wakes up and buys a ticket because he wants to watch the first guy off the bench. He's going to see Janice. Jamal Murray. That's, you know, Harden. They're not MBs.

They're not going to see this. You know, they're not going to... People weren't tuning in for Lonnie Walker last year at Staples? I like PJ Tucker. That's not why you're buying a ticket. But I like him on my team. They're going to see Jimmy Butler. So what's the move from coaches here? Do you think they flaunt their? and don't care? Do you think they say, hey, you're not paying me to win regular season games. You're firing me if I'm not making the playoffs and winning in the playoffs.

I think this is just a nudge in the direction of guys, if you're not hurt, play. Just go play. Should they put an age limit on this? Because I'll be honest. I need LeBron in the postseason. I don't care about LeBron in December. You don't? I don't care.

We have a radio show where LeBron is 80% of the topics from April, May June. Not on this show. April, May, June. We're not talking LeBron. I talk more Steph Curry. From now on,

it's all Yokitch radio. I saw the video circulate. You went viral. For hanging out with LeBron and some cabana? Just because LeBron's talked up to me. I'm not giving them more airtime.

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And what's interesting is he may be smart. I'm not denying he's smart. But does he inspire and galvanize men, wealthy men, rich men, alpha males. Does he lead him through the tunnel? Does he motivate him? inspire them. Does he galvanize him? I don't see it. And I always worry, where's the coach's expertise? We're going into year three. The defense has not improved.

And they're spending money on it. You've got a boss on the edge. They had Khalil Mack. They're spending money on it. So it's interesting. The dolphins did whatever they wanted. Now the dolphins go to what I believe is a less talented defense, New England this week. Think two is throwing for 450 yards this week or whatever he threw for? I don't think so. So Matthew Judon's a good player. He's not a Bosa. So this defense in New England is not as talented, not as expensive as the one with the

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