The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD – HOUR 2 – Jaxson Dart Year 2 Expectations, Cowboys NFL’s Best Offense, Chiefs Rebuild?

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

What to expect from Jaxson Dart this coming season, and what he needs to change from last year NFL reporter Albert Breer joins the show explaining how the Chiefs expect to turn things around after missing the playoffs last year and why the Cowboys believe they could have the NFL’s best offense.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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whatever the platform. Thanks for Megan. That's part of your day. A lot of choices out there. We were talking earlier about Mike McCarthy, Mike McCarthy very early in his career in Green Bay gets Aaron Rogers. And Aaron is so beautiful to watch, such a beautiful release, he's so good. There was a stretch in the NFL where people are like,

yeah, Brady's winning the Super Bowls, but Aaron Rogers is the better quarterback. And that lasted for about half a decade. And there were so many Rogers fanboys in the media, and so many Rogers fans and Green Bay is a massive brand. And Brady's part of a system, Grumpy Belichick, nobody like New England, and Peyton Manning.

and, you know, was kind of really popular. And so, like, when Green Bay didn't win more than one Super Bowl with Aaron Rogers, McCarthy took the hit. And now we know that Aaron, there's a lot to unwrap. There's a lot that goes along with coaching Aaron Rogers. It's not that easy. It's not the hardest thing in the world because he's talented, but it's not that easy. And I don't think he's ever overcome it. I said this earlier.

If you look at the John Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy resume, one's viewed as great, the other, the Steelers settled, they're even. Same coach. Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy. I mean, look at John Harbaugh and Mike McCarthy. 18 years each. Winning percentage, division titles, playoff wins, Super Bowl titles,

very, very close. Mike Tomlin, again, legend, going to be a Hall of Fame coach, right? I mean, what's the difference? McCarthy's got a few more playoff wins. But Howard Tomlin and Harbaugh viewed, you say, well, you had Aaron Rogers. Well, Tomlin had Big Ben.

That's a Hall of Famer. Harbaugh had Lamar Jackson. Lamar's going to probably make the Hall of Fame. So here's a, just do two other blind resumes. So I don't know who these are. The staff has put two blind resumes up. Okay. So this coach has slightly less of a win percentage,

two fewer division titles. But like McCarthy, 11 playoff wins in one Super Bowl. who's this coach? Okay, Pete Carroll. Now, Pete, I think because of the Raiders debacle and the end of Seattle is now appropriately viewed as a non-Hall of Fame coach, but a good coach who had a great 10-year run in Seattle. Okay. But Pete Carroll, before the Raiders mess, he was sort of held to a higher standard than Mike McCarthy, who you settle when you hire Mike McCarthy. All right, give me a second blind resume. All right. This coach has a slightly higher win percentage. one fewer playoff win, one Super Bowl title, both have eight division titles, 18 seasons. Who's this coach? Okay, Sean Payton's considered a legend.

It never fails. So Harbaugh, Tomlin Payton, legends. McCarthy, a guy. Resumies are identical. And again, they've all had great quarterbacks. Sean Payton had Drew Brees. McCarthy had Aaron Rogers in his prime. Tomlin had Big Ben.

And say what you want, for seven years of Lamar Jackson was historically brilliant. But one guy is judged one way and the other three are judged the other way. It's just you get an early bad reputation. You could be an actor. You can be a football coach.

It is hard to shake it. And with that, Eric Caros, Dodger TV analyst for several years, 14 years in the Biggs, the Cubs. Dodgers, one with the Cubs. By the way, so I went to the game last night. And I've been defending the Dodgers saying when the Yankees had three straight World Series and went 12 and won in those World Series games. And you didn't hear the fearmongering about the Dodgers who, by the way, were outplayed by the Blue Jays last year, won on fluke, great

managing, lever pulling. This Dodger team, by the way, is. is scuffing Eric, I think Terrick Scoobel was more out of necessity, not just adding greedily, you know, not being greedy. They have real arm issues, bullpen issues,

hitting issues. As somebody that does Dodger games and knows them well, is this just a blip or is this losing streak a reality check on some of the real issues they have? Well, you know, thanks for having me on, Colin, but I would say it's real right now, right?

But they run against the Red Sox, arguably, you know, playing the best baseball in the entire league. Cubs have been infused with some new talent. But look, at the end of the day, who am I taking? If I live or die, what team am I taking to win the World Series? I'm taking the Dodgers. If they lose again today, I'm still taking the Dodgers. If they lose the next five, I'm still taking the Dodgers. So, look, you're going to have your stretches.

there's no question. But, you know, right now that you can say that, hey, there are some things that could rear themselves in the postseason, and that is offensively, they don't swing the bats well. Injuries can always happen. The Dalton rushing injury to the catching situation, I mean, that's huge. That is really impactful. And we're waiting to see, you know, Will Smith is starting baseball activities, you know, will he be back and at what level? So there are a lot of things that, yes, you can you can raise pause to. But at the end of the day, like I said, you know, who am I going to pick right now and who am I going to pick next week? I think it's still going to be the Dodgers. What about Mookie Betts decline over the last two years? He's in a one for 16 slump. His at

bats last night, not terribly dynamic. They have six years left in that contract. What has happened? Well, look, you go back to last season and he was ready to go and then he had the stomach virus, to Japan. You know, it never really got on track. So that's what you want to attribute last year to. This year, you know, what is the reason? What is it, you know, is it just bad luck? Is it not getting the brakes? When you start stacking those two things together, then you have to say, okay, so is Mookie the same player as he was, you know, four years ago? Well, obviously not. Age is going to catch up with anybody. But is he still a. an all-star player. Well, everybody believes so. But at the end of the day, the only person matters

is really mooky. And, you know, if you heard some of his interviews last night, you know, after the game, he was talking about how, well, you know, I really don't know what to do. I'm just going to come out and work. And that's all he can do is come out and grind. But the reality is the reality right now. And so, again, if you're the Dodger, you have to be aware of it. But that is, he is your shortstop. that's not changing. And again, I'm still, I'm taking this ball club, you know, right now, 100 out of 100 times. If I have to pick who is going to, you know, be in the World Series and win it, I would still take the Dodgers over any other team. You know, the Cubs are interesting because

their batting order is very capable. Their position players, excellent. But I went and watched, you know, because I live in Chicago now and I'm like, man, they're starting pitching. They're starting pitching is weak. Well, they went out and got a handful of arms. None of them, like Tarek Scouble, high profile, except the guy from Toronto, but it's a lot of guys. But you watch them and their batting order and their position players. Eric, this is a good team. Well, there's no question. Yeah.

Is it a World Series level team? Well, they are. Gossmann and Holmes, they went and addressed an area that they needed to obviously improve. And remember, all of these teams, it's, you know, who is the best team? Well, it's going to be who is the hottest team come October. That's what it is. It's not who is the best over 162 games. It's not who's the best in one series.

It's who can make that run. And so now Chicago, with Gosman and Holmes, you add those two guys. I mean, you can make a case pretty easily that, yes, they have a chance to run things through the postseason. And I think there's going to be a number of teams that you can make a case for. Look, you mentioned at the top of this, the Dodgers last year, there were probably 10 or 11 different plays or different situations last year in Toronto. If one of them, if just one of them goes against the Dodgers, just one. The Blue Jays are world champs. If you go back the previous season, the San Diego Padres are up going into the fourth game in the division.

And they, I still don't understand why they start Dylan Cs on three days rest. when he's never done it in the history of his life. But anyhow, the Dodgers come back and win that postseason series and then win the World Series. We could be sitting here talking about how the Dodgers have been underachieving the last two years, yet we're talking about how they're the big, bad villain. Where are you? Otani's banged up again. I only think he's got a couple of home runs since the All-Star break.

Where are you on Otani? You know, it's so weird that he's almost a victim of his gifts. I always think to myself, do you really need to pitch him? Can we just, can we just put him to the plate? I mean, do you think the stress of doing both, the idea 10 years ago, if I would have said to you, there's going to be this guy, he's going to be an ace and a great DH. It's like that's Babe Ruth. That doesn't happen.

That's like a night, you know, it just doesn't make any sense. Do you think some of the injuries with him are just the emotional and physical stress of just pitching? Forget the hitting, just the pitching. Well, I look at the physical toll is is on parallel. And the only person that knows how much it impacts him is Shohei Otani because none of us have done it. I mean, I could go down to the local Manhattan Beach Little League and talk to some 12-year-old about what it's like to do it, but he's doing it at the highest level. And, you know, just to do it exceptionally in one situation is just wear and tear. I think the thing with Shohei right now, I mean, and I think the Dodgers are in a situation. where look, if he comes back as a pitcher and throws this year, that's gravy.

But I'd almost, look, I'd almost take peak show hey. In fact, not almost. I would take peak show hey offense and forgive the pitching. That's where I am right now, especially with the acquisition of Scoobel. I do that all day long. You know, let me throw this theory at you is that the Dodgers have had back-to-back long playoff runs, seven game world series. It's an old roster. We talk about this in football all the time. Eric, they look tired. They're beat up, nagging injuries. I mean, the reality is we've always known

this happens to pitching staff. This is a team with 33, 34, 35 year olds, back to back long runs. Is it possible they're just, this is just not the, I know we say it is old roster, back to back long playoff runs. There's not a lot of energy right now with the team. You're 100% right on there's not a lot of energy right now with the team. It just looks lethargic, but you just have to remember, too, they just came off an East Coast swing after the All-Star break where Yankees, Phillies, and Mets, and they went six and three.

It's like, wow, okay, man, these guys are, you know, locked in. They run into a hot Boston team. This is not who they're going to be. think anybody is concerned, at least within the organization, that this is who they're going to be come September. Dodgers went through this last year. It's just kind of their right of passage. And this is, this is Dave Roberts' biggest challenge every year is, you know, to navigate this ball club, to make sure that everybody gets rest to, you know, make sure that, you know, things don't go sideways. And that's, you know, it's not just throw out the lineup. And that's where that's where

the Dodgers are right now. And it's, look, it's temporary. And like I said, you know, I'm being redundant. But if you ask anybody, who are they taken, even after this, it's the Dodgers. There is a sense. I've never been a big fan of salary caps. I think in the NFL, it's the same eight teams drafting at the top every year. You know, there's just better owners, better GM. I don't care what salary cap.

The Washington Wizards have been bad for 30 years. You got a salary cap. I'm not a big fan of it. I think small market Milwaukee is excellent. the rays are outstanding. Yeah. I mean, I think you look around baseball right now. Chicago White Sox have a low payroll.

Excellent. Your thoughts on, is it the floor? Is it the ceiling? I don't think we're going to have a lockout, Eric, because I think right now the sport is in a three to four year renaissance and the billionaires are not going to let the money train stop. They'll figure out a way to move the shells around. Do you think we have a lockout looming?

So I hope you're right. I just don't know, you know, how hard line, you know, either side is going to be. Do I think a salary cap is the answer if you think that that is going to correlate to more competitive balance in different teams winning the World Series? I think that's completely ridiculous. They don't have a correlation. If you want to tell me that, you know, hey, look, ownership wants a salary cap. because they've seen the franchise values increase in the other sports, and that's, you know, we want to have to be on the same page.

Fine. Say that. But this idea that all of a sudden, you know, smaller market teams are going to have a chance to win the World Series is ludicrous. And you just mentioned it's teams making good decisions. There has to be an element of luck. There has to be, you know, some unexpectedness with all these balls. clubs to have success. What do, you know, the Dodgers spend more money? Yes. But that allows them to

maybe be able to get a Kyle Tucker and it's not working out. We're another organization of May hamstring. But that's the nature of this business. That's the nature of life. Like everything is not exactly equal across the board. And look, I hope, as you mentioned, I hope that there is no work stoppage. You know, if you look at the rhetoric right now, it's, you know, it's a lot of rhetoric. But hopefully both sides can come together and figure something out. Good seeing you, my man. Eric Carroll, she looked good as always.

Go check out that Manhattan Beach Little League game if you have a few minutes tonight. Take care, buddy. Good seeing you. Good seeing you. I was saying this the other day. I think one of the advantages the Dodgers have isn't just Bats Freeman Otani. It's they've got the money that they can go out and get a Blake Snell or a Tyler or Glassnow or an Edwin Diaz who may have an arm issue, velocity issues, and they can store them

and just get them healthy. They don't need them to pitch. That's the advantage where, all right, Blake Snell doesn't do anything all year. Can we get two really good September outings? And it's like, oh, with Yoshi, with Otani, with Scoobel, like that, to me, that's the advantage. It's not just stalking because the Mets have money. It's not stalking talents. the ability to bring in guys who are really good but infrequent pitchers. These infrequent guys, they just can't give you a lot of innings, and you kind of store them. You put them in the basement.

And all of a sudden, August and September, they come out. And, you know, that's the advantage the Dodgers have. I don't think it's all the high profile guys. I don't. I mean, last year, they were able to use Rokees as hockey. And all of a sudden, hey, we're going to put you in the bullpen. they've just got the ability. Like the bullpen was a mess for the Dodgers all last year.

It was a, I think they blew 23 saves. And then in the end, they're like, all right, we're just going to take this great, brilliant young starter. We're going to put you in the back end. And oh, Glassnow gives us three big endings. And oh, here's Snell with a great start. That's what they, they store stuff in the back where everybody else, if you went and got Blake Snell, you'd need 18 starts to justify the contract.

And the Dodgers are like, now we're going to put them in the back. And we'll bring him out when we need him. That, to me, is a huge edge. because so much of postseason baseball is really situational. It's just needing it. It's like I always say about the NBA playoffs. You can talk about analytics. When you get to the conference finals, get a stop, get a basket.

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Boy, there's not a lot going wrong with sports right now. If you just think of the momentum we have in sports, first of all, we had a great March madness. It was fantastic. NFL playoffs were fantastic. Two surprise teams, Seahawks and Patriots in the Super Bowl. It wasn't traditional favorites. I think the first half of the baseball season's been outstanding. The Yankees, the Dodgers, the Phillies, the Braves, the Cubs,

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So, I mean, I don't, I'm at Wrigley last night. I'm just looking around thinking, oh, my God. With sports right now in America, it is just the momentum is incredible. I mean, the NBA got the Knicks and Wemby. How good was that? I mean, considering the Knicks won convincingly, it was actually a fairly competitive series because the Spurs had multiple double-digit lead. So listen, it's okay to celebrate sports and not offer a doomsday scenario.

I do not believe baseball has an impending looming lockout. I think rich guys don't give up money. And there's just too much money pouring in. I think if they raise the floor, the salary floor, which concerns me, I mean, Chicago White Sox are a what you would call low payroll team. It's Chicago. Their attendance is up. They've got money.

Spend it. They finally spent some money in the off season. Oh, what do you know? The team's good. John Middilcoff with the news. This is the herd line news. Well, sports have been on a heater, but the New York Giants, they've been down for a while here, Colin. And Jackson Dart, who made his debut in Sandow's quarterback tier, ranked 24th.

And one NFL GM who took part in the survey was, quote, Dart isn't going to change his style of play. I don't know if this guy is going to last. And then yesterday in practice, there was an incident where he threw a ball at someone's face, I think after they scored a touchdown. And here's his new head coach on the young quarterback. It's a 15-yard penalty for taunting, so he backed up the extra point and had to do it again. He understands that we don't want to, for the game-winning extra point,

we don't want it to be a 50-yard extra point. I'm sorry, whatever it is. Do you think I need to say anything in that case? Pretty clear cut, right? Can I just throw this out there? He's the best looking quarterback in the league. He's rich. He dates stunning women and he's in New York.

A lot of guys would get a little over their skis. Like Aaron Rogers was a good looking guy, but he was single, and his dating life was private and he was in Green Bay. Kids in New York, he looks like a model, he dates beautiful women, he's rich, and he's the quarterback for the New York Giants. You know, this is not the easiest territory for young men. to handle.

It'd be much easier if he was stuck in Carolina and he looked like me. That'd be a much easier life. The kid is, he got genetically talented, first round pick, New York, like he is. Scataboo does stuff. I think he's out of his mind. I just think Jackson Dart, I don't think it's always easy to be young, great looking, fantastically talented. I just, you know, I think we're just watching in real time.

time, most young people don't have public jobs. We're just watching him step on a few landmines in real time. I do think he's better than I thought as a pro. Now, I thought he could be this good eventually, but I didn't think he'd be this good as a rookie. So I was wrong. I think he was very, very solid last year. If I ever fly to Turkey and get some new hair, I'm just going to bring a picture of Jackson DART and show the doctor the picture.

One thing with Harbaugh, if you look at his two quarterbacks in Baltimore, Flacco understated, low-key. I think he married his high school sweetheart. Yeah. You know, Lamar, while he's like a polarizing player, pretty quiet. Yeah, not a big opinion. This guy is like Cam Newton meets Baker Mayfield. There's a lot going on.

This is, you know, for John in his, I think he's in his early 60s, this is a challenge. You know, this is, there's a lot of personality. There's a lot of talent, like you said. But remember last year, Colin, he was in the blue 10 every game. Sometimes multiple times. Remember when that game dayball came running from the tent, begging to get him out of there? Listen, again, it's really,

I think it's a really difficult line to toe when you're a young athlete. Because you kind of feel you're bulletproof, right? Like you do when you're young. When you're old, I mean, you trip down the stairs and you're on the IR. But when you're young, I mean, you can rip your ankle up playing basketball with your buddies the next day. You know, there is no such thing as a hangover at 23. You just go drink again. You get older, it's like a second apparel spritz.

I'm shutting it down for the week. So this guy's just, his style is that of a very confident young player. Cam Newton had a lot of this. Cam was good looking. He had a lot of bravado. You're like, Cam, slide. What are you doing? Get down.

And after a while, the league's like, there's too many shots on Cam. A lot of this is what will happen with Jackson Dart this year next? He's going to get smoked. He is going to get smoked by a safety. And he's going to be like, Michael Vicks told me this. It takes a couple of years, and then all of a sudden, you know, London Fletcher and Michael Vicks era comes over, and you're like, yeah, I'm done running. And I think Jackson will have one of those moments beyond just going to the blue tent. He'll get smoked and he'll realize, you know what, I got to distribute.

I got it. And that may take a couple of years. Okay, to Notre Dame, Colin, where the Irish are expected, they're opening the season as a top five team. They obviously narrowly missed the playoffs, even though I think we all agreed. they were clearly one of the top you know four or five teams last year because of their schedule here's Freeman on what happened last season

and the approach he is currently preaching to his locker room yeah we didn't earn we didn't earn that the opportunity that's something that we've owned and we know we have aspirations to play beyond the regular season that doesn't need to be said but it's the reminder of what is the work that must be done to give your program a chance to play past game 12.

Like that's important and to get into the playoffs. That's what I continue to remind our program, our coaches, our players about, stop worrying about the playoffs. Stop talking about it. Like focus on what we have. I like the personnel. They've done much better with the NIL. I thought it would be a money grab, oil, Texas money,

LA money, big market money. Notre Dame stepped up. They also have no attrition. If a guy signs with them through NIL, they don't leave. Because you go to Notre Dame for more than just football. So I think, I got to tell you something. What the NIL has done is two or threefold. Number one, little guys like Vandy and Indiana now can steal recruits from Georgia.

Love that. Secondly, academics matter. Guys are staying in college longer, academically driven institutions, with richer alumni, Vandy. Again, Notre Dame are benefiting. And it's also allowed the flashy schools like Miami and Texas to win as well. I think college football right now,

this is as good as it's ever been. If we can get to about 16 teams in the playoff, which will help teams schedule tougher out of conference games. People will be less concerned about losing a second game. But I think Notre Dame's here to stay at Freeman's days. This isn't an apples-to-apples comparison, but because Brian Kelly got them to National Championship game, they were just outclass

is, you know, I know you're in Oregon, you know that program well. When Chip took over for Bellotti, they went to another level. And I think Marcus Freeman to Brian Kelly, who's, you know, I would say under Brian Kelly was higher level than Baladi, but it feels like they are going to be a team

that would shock nobody if they ran through the playoffs, if they were a number one seat over the next couple years. I think no, I'm going to take, right now I'm Notre Dame Miami plan for the Nadi or Ohio State. I think it's Ohio State Miami, Notre Dame. Oregon would be my four. I think Notre Dame's quarterback and coach,

listen, college and pro, quarterback and coach matter a lot. Look at Notre Dame schedule. Pretty win-able. I mean, not a lot of wins. Nine blowout wins, two or three close games. Maybe they lose at home to Miami. Maybe they don't.

This team's going to go in with a great seed. I don't know. I think Notre Dame's going to play for the national championship. That's at least a 50-50 proposition to me. I think the one fair question is a lot of hype and buzz on the quarterback has a chance to establish himself as the best quarterback throughout the season. They had a running back that was drafted third overall. His backup was a first round pick to the super.

That's a lot of firepower there in the backfield. So I was watching hard knocks last night. All the defensive guys on Seattle was like, who is this guy? Because Price has just run around. They couldn't tackle him. And he's a return. He was a return. too for Notre Dame. So that guy is, by the way, that guy is yoked. Yeah, he looks good. Okay,

we'll get out of here on this. J.J. McCarthy. I'm not sure how he wasn't last on the list, but he ranked 34th overall in Sandoz's Tears. Obviously, all signs point to Kyler Murray being the starting quarterback there. One survey, one anonymous quote from an offensive coach on J.J. McCarthy, football looks hard for him. It does. That's not good. That's absolutely right. There are moments.

He tends to be, I don't know if it's emotional. I don't like my quarterbacks to be streaky. He tends to be a streaky quarterback. He will have back-to-back series, and you're like, oh, he's got, he's electric. He's got something there. But it also looks like, John, that he loses his confidence on a bad throw or a bad sack. So, and when I watch him play, I see, I can see him lose confidence.

I can see it. It feels like he's losing velocity. He loses accuracy. And that's one of those things where I'd almost rather my quarterback be a little delusional, a little delusionally confident. Even if he, I mean, Sam Darnold can make mistakes. Sam Darnold never loses confidence. Like he just totally believes it.

JJ, I can see him, his body language changes. And I think that's an issue with that position. Yeah, I think if he's not the starting quarterback, which all signs point to him not being, I have a hard time seeing him being the backup when they have Carson Wentz there. That being said, I have a hard time then seeing him being on the team come week one.

I would expect for him to be traded at the end of this month. Wow. John Middilcoff with the news. That's a wow. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. Albert Brear, been around the league at camps,

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not just because they're the Cowboys. But I do, I said when the Micah Parsons trade came down, I said, Jerry's a dealmaker. Dealmakers like flexibility. If they sign Micah, they've got no flexibility.

I get the trade. Today I'd say they want it based on Micah's health. We'll see. But you went to camp, there's Caleb Downs, The D-line overshone now is healthy. What was the vibe with Cowboy Camp? So I'd say like the one thing that you,

that's unmistakable is, like everybody talks how good the makeup of the team is, right? Like, and so Brian Schott and Imer had said how he wanted to have the best culture in sports. Well, you look at the guys they brought in, Quentin Williams was a captain with the Jets. Kenny Clark was a captain with the Packers. Jalen Thompson was captain with the Cardinals.

The makeup of the team, they feel like has gotten really, really good. additionally they think the offense has a chance to break franchise records to be one of the best, if not the best offense in the league. And so that leaves the defense. New defensive coordinator, Christian Parker coming over from Philly. Like you said, Caleb Downs and Jalen Thompson now at safety. The D-Lines got some moving pieces. Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams were added on the fly last year.

So now you get to sink your teeth into those guys where Sean Gary comes over from Green Bay. So I actually had this conversation. I'm in Houston now. I had this conversation with some of the guys with the Cowboys where it's like they almost view themselves as the reverse of the Texans. You know what I mean? Like where it's like if we can just be pretty good on defense, our offense is good enough to carry us.

So I think that's where they're at. I think the other thing you got to watch their call on, they do have to stay healthy because I think depth is a few spots for them. But as far as just the front line guys, they feel really good about where they're at. Well, you said Aaron Donald's coming back to the Rams between, it's just insane. McDuffie, Miles Garrett, Young, Braden Fiske, Kobe Turner, Puna Ford was a number right and redded nose tackle. I said this earlier. We listed their top 10 players.

And I'm like, I mean, they were number one. I mean, I have Miles Garrett one, Cucca, Trent. You get down to 10. And it's like, well, Kobe Turner was a top six defense. He outplayed Chris Jones last year. I mean, it sounds like Aaron Donald is kind of a done deal. He's communicating daily with McVeigh. Really?

Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I don't think it'll happen before they break camp at Loyal and Merrimount. But I believe that was the fifth. I think that they go back maybe in a couple days. And I think after that next week, I think all of this is in play. I do think he's coming back. He and McVeigh are very close.

There's been a constant open line of communication there. and they've actually come up with a plan for what it's going to look like if and when he does come back. And what's really kind of given in an interesting way, Colin, what's given them the framework for that is the holdouts in 2017 and 2018. Now, you remember, he reported to camp very late both years, both years he won defensive player of the year. So they have a way to do this. Now it's not the same. Of course, he's 35 now. He's obviously spent two years away from football.

but they feel like they've got a good plan. And I think the other piece of this is like what you just, the names you just rattled off, you know, Kobe Turner, Braden Fis, Puna Ford, Tyler Davis, they really like,

they've got all these interior defensive linemen. They don't need to play him 60 place a game, you know? So they're going to have a way of managing him that isn't going to cost the team, you know? I kind of take it back to like the Eric Weddell situation a few years ago. He was there because they needed him to be there.

And he played every snap because the Rams needed him to play every snap. I don't think that's going to be the case with Aaron Donald in 2026. If you look at the history of the NFL, you win Super Bowls when you have a majority of your best players either in their prime or getting close to it. That's the Rams this year. That was the great Seahawk teams. It's hard to win when you're old. And you've been at Kansas City camp. Listen, Kelsey's probably got a year left. They let McDuffie go. Chris Jones' best years probably behind him. Mahomes will be fine, but he's off a major injury. Again, they've got, they let Joe Tuny go. And I look at Kansas City and I think they'll

smart their way and quarterback and coach their way to a wildcard spot. But you are there. I just, I look at these top teams like Seattle and Philadelphia and Detroit. And I don't think the chiefs have that kind of personnel. Do you? Here's what they have to do. They have to do what they three or four years ago. And you remember when they traded Tyree Kill, right? Like what happened in the aftermath? Creed Humphrey developed. Trey Smith developed on the defensive side of the ball.

Nick Bolton, George Carl Loftus, McDuffey himself, right? Like they used the picks to get young players in. And then they did an outstanding job developing those young guys. And a lot of those young guys are big pieces of the puzzle. Right. So they need to have that happen again. And in a lot of ways, they're running back what they did in trading Tyreek and trading McDuffie now and that, okay, we can't keep everybody, but what we can do is continue to flood

the team with young talent. And so, you know, I can give you some names, Josh Simmons at left tackle. What does he look like? Iris Allen, after the fifth round, they think he's got like some Stefan Diggs type qualities on defense, Mansour Delane. Like, what does he look like at corner? Just think like, that's really what it's going to boil down to. I think at baseline, when you've got a quarterback like Mahomes, you should expect to make the playoffs, like you said, right? whether or not they can elevate to the point they've been over the course of the last eight years, which is Super Bowl contender, I think really rise on their development of all of those young guys.

And if they can develop them the same way they developed the guys three or four years ago, then they'll have something. So, you know, it's interesting. The Seattle Seahawks are one of those organizations that have mostly been very well run for 15 to 18 years. As long as John Snyder's been in that front office, they draft well, they're smart, they acquire well. He and Pete had some fissures. It moved on. Then they go get another great coach. I mean, just think of the coaches. Homegren, Mike McDonald, Pete. And the Pete thing got sideways.

But I mean, they they lose Kenneth Walker, who had durability issues, great player. They go with this Notre Dame kid who apparently is wowing everybody at camp. And they lose a corner here. But it should be noted that when we watch them play the Seahawks last year, most of the players who were great, return. And it's almost like, well, Sam got a little lucky. And I'm like, guys, their roster and they had, in my opinion, another good draft, despite drafting at the end of rounds, you were at the Seahk camp. What was the energy like?

The talent looks like outrageous. And I'll give you like my anecdote, right, which is I'm like walking over to the corner of the field and there are the defensive ends working on the blocking sled there with Adderdei, the defensive coordinator running the drill. And all I can think about is they just lost Boya Amafé, who got $20 million a year in Cincinnati. So that's a significant piece. And then you look at who they have out there. And it's In Genuuu Marcos Lawrence, Eric Hall, Dante Fowler.

They're four deep, and they just lost a $20 million player there, you know? So, look, I think the infrastructure is rock solid. I don't think Sam gets enough credit for doing. what he did in back-to-back years with different teams. It's really rare to see a quarterback do that. I think he takes a step. And you know what I love about their off-season? This is going to sound funny to you, but I like when GMs sometimes operate in a way

where you could explain it to an eight-year-old. You know what I mean? And if you look at the guys they lost, right? So they lose Kenneth Walker. They draft a running back, Judarian Price, in the first round. They lose a safety Kobe Bryant to Chicago. They draft Bud Clark, a safety in the second round. They lose Rickwell in a corner.

they draft a corner, Julian Neal, in the third round. So it's like, it's very logical. And I think there's a common sense thing to the way that they put that team together. And, you know, I think the big question is going to be like, can Brian Fleury be what Clint Kubiak was as the O.C.? Like that to me would be like, oh, but I look across that practice field and I see a lot of questions that have already been in. All right. Well, if you go to the Bears camp on Sunday, text me. I'll show up and we'll hang out.

I'll be there. All right. I'm committing right now on the air. Colin, the Bears camp. Not that far from my house. Albert Berg, good seeing you. All right.

Thanks, Colin. Middle of coffee, you're missing out. Bear, your bears invited me up to camp. I think Sunday's the day. I can see you roam in the sideline, giving Caleb and Ben Johnson some fistpounds.

Just like when I go to USC practice, I bring a notepad, make sure the coach gets a little look at some of my secret quotients here and potions and all my like numbers. stuff, and I'm a little bit weird on that. But, you know, a little suggestion here or there for Ben Johnson. What's wrong with that? Yeah, and I can also see you just wearing out Ryan Poles with some future, you know, guys in college. You get about 17 names for him to keep an eye on, about six guys at USC, you know, I mean, poor Ryan Poles, probably running around,

hiding from me in the camp because I've got another USC defensive tackle. I tell him to keep his eye on. All right. Been good stuff today. Good Albert Breyer. The, Yeah, it's, you know, it's, we generally, we talk about teams that are well run and what organizations are well run. Like Seattle has gone. Homegren, Pete Carroll, Mike McDonald, had great ownership now, have new ownership now. But go look at the price tag. Like, think about this. How many organizations in the NFL can you say GM coach, top three in the league for the next decade?

Mike McDonald's McVeigh on defense. John Snyder is still reasonably young. I mean, think about this. Darnold's still, what is Darnold? 28 years old. I mean, GM coach quarterback. Tell me organizations that have three guys in their prime that are top of the class. And I know all you guys think Darnold's the 18th best quarterback in the league.

I'm going to tell you right now he's not. So I think Seattle's one of those incredibly well-run operations that doesn't give a ton, doesn't get a ton of national respect. And I think they're very well-drawn. I'll tell you this, Hard Docs, Colin can put together a montage of Sam looking like Elway. I mean, he's just like, geez, this guy's slinging this thing around. You need to watch Hard Knocks. It's just a darn old montage of throws.

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