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Episode Date: April 1, 2026

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Otani is unbelievable. I'm telling you, I, I'll have Nick right on in a couple of minutes. The media may be hyperbolic. But Tiger Woods ended up being,

when Tiger Woods, there was all this discussion about he's going to be unbelievable. I remember being a local sportscaster and people coming up to me when I would go out and, you know, shank drives. Why do you guys talk about Tiger Woods?

The dude won a U.S. Open at Pebble Beach by 15 strokes. And he was like, 21. I mean, come on. O-Tani is better than I was told he was going to be. Tiger Woods and his prime was better than the media. Guaranteed he would be. Wemby is 22 years old. He's better than I thought he would be.

So when anybody says, oh, you guys are hyping stuff up, Tiger, better than you would have guessed in his early 20s. he would go to Pebble Beach and win a major over the world's best golfers by 15 strokes. Tiger for 10 years, there was a 10-year period where between the Sopranos and Tiger Woods in majors, Sunday night was better during that season than the NFL season. I mean, it was, you just, you had to be around a TV on Sundays. Tiger had a major in the Sopranos. Okay, I just saw this. record-setting NCAA tournament viewership continues.

Apparently Duke and Yukon, CBS Sports is saying this, and TNT, most watched tournament game, Duke, Yukon since 1993, Yukon Duke peak with 19 million viewers. Oh, interesting, despite no Cinderella team. David versus Goliath is a fun story. Goliath versus Goliath and the good old days sold more tickets. I don't want glass slippers in March. I want Jordan brand sneakers.

I want big brands. I want Dodgers, Yankees, Cubs. My first day, 20 years ago, it was almost 20 years ago today. I think it was April. I went on syndicated radio from local radio to syndicated radio. And I remember my first show. I said, I said, you don't like underdogs. You say you do, but you like favorites.

You go to watch Tom Cruise in the movie theater, not film noir. Right now, people go to Vegas to watch you two at the sphere, not the indie band. And this ratings indicates once again for the first time I've run this show. Where Colin was extraordinarily right. Yep, on Wednesday. I usually do that in Monday. Let's do it on a Wednesday. Give me one more. Where Colin was right from day one. on. Thank you.

Stop telling me you love Cinderella. You don't. It's cute. Hopefully you guys are coming around to my side because when James Madison made the college football playoffs, finally everybody was like, what the hell are we doing with this? Give me a break. I mean, you got SEC teams and

Big Ten teams and you got big brands, the Avengers, Tom Cruise, O'Tani and the Dodgers. Michigan, the fighting aligni, Yukon, Arizona. It's going to be, I think it'll be the highest rated final four. I mean, in a decade. And a lot of it's NIL.

With that, let's bring out, first things first. Nick Wright, the Nixter. Boy, is he exploded in pot. He is so popular now. Where did that come from? Well, you just, I see everywhere. It's poker. Oh, yeah.

It's your podcast. A lot of poker. Yeah. Oh, the podcast. Got great bosses there. You know, it's a collective effort. Good to see you, my friend. Great to see you.

Okay, I threw this by the show this morning by the staff. Yeah. We know Andy Reid is part of Mahomes' success. Probably the best coach. I would argue, once the rules change the offense, Belichick dropped, Reed flourished. And he's arguably the second best coach I've ever seen to Bill Walsh. I mean, honestly.

So, and we know coaching matters in football. you can see a guy go to a college program. Mike Vrable goes to the Patriots, Super Bowl. Like, right? Yeah. I watched JJ Reddick. He was a podcast host a year and a half ago. He walks into the Lakers, same roster.

You know, he gets JJ right. First year, a little bumpy. This year, they're setting records, their efficiency through the roof, to the best clutch team in the league. LeBron's getting older. Austin Reeves suddenly didn't become Aunt Edwards. Luke is good. He's always been good.

is basketball coaching at the pro level. There's no recruiting here. It's not college. And I'm saying this is a compliment to how darn good he is. But do we overvalue? How come Steve Kerr isn't winning anymore? How come Spolster is not winning titles? They don't have the guys.

That Redick's proving that it's a players league. It always has been in coaching's overrated in the NBA. Well, listen, I think that it is certainly not what coaching is in the NFL. That is obviously true. I do think it's more meaningful, though, than coaching or managing in Major League Baseball. And I do think that there are certain coaches can, it's more often that a coach's weaknesses kneecap a team than his strengths elevate a team in the NBA, in my opinion. Good point. With the rare exception of, like the all-time great coaches is going to sound ridiculous, but are all-time great for a reason.

They are uniquely gifted at certain things. Phil Jackson was just a great connector of people and dealing with these giant personalities and finding a way to meet people on their level. I think Pat Riley as a coach and then as a front office guy always kind of had a tactical vision and an understanding of the sport that separated him from others. Popovich was good seemingly at everything. I think JJ is very, very sharp as for on the little stuff, the out-of-time-out plays. I think he took his medicine on the mistake he made in the playoffs on not subbing for a whole half and has tried to be a little less rigid. So I don't know that JJ is yet a great coach, but I do think he has the kind of the bones of a potentially good coach

as long as his own personality foibles that we've known about since he was at Duke don't get in own way. But the biggest reason, I'm glad we're starting here, that the Lakers look awesome, is that old number 77, that when he comes up on this show, he's either, you know, a poor man's Carmelo Anthony or just the modern James Hardin, or I'm sure there's some, you know, I don't know if you've broken out even, you know, the Alex English comp. That guy scored a bunch, didn't play a lot of defense. And you loved him as a kid. I know he was your favorite player. And all Luke has done is win Player of the Month in January. And now folks are like, oh, he just started playing good. No, he didn't. He was 45 a game in October. Granted,

just three games, the first month of season. Player of the month in January, had a rough February. And in March, he has lit the league ablaze every single night. And, And my frustration with some of the Luca commentary and then some of the MVP talk, which I know we'll get into is folks are, I think, pretending like, oh yeah, we thought the Lakers would win 54 games and be the three seed. Nobody did. They've smashed their over already. They have the same number of wins as Boston. They might manage with the third best record in the entire NBA. Austin and Braun have missed 47 games this year.

It's because of Luca. He is that transcendently great of an offensive player, and I know it can irk some folks because he does yell at the officials a lot, but he is a once-in-a-lifetime offensive force of nature, Colin. Yeah, I wouldn't deny that. So I said before, or maybe the top of the hour, I said, everybody talked about Tiger Woods and then in his prime he was better

he was literally better he was winning US opens by 15 strokes it's insane and I think LeBron frankly is better than people said I mean nobody thought if I would just I mean give me a break if I'd have said all time leading score you'd be like he's better passer I mean he can score in high school 28 a game

I'm watching Wemby okay forget the defense where he literally has like 45 more blocks than anybody and alters every possession when he is hitting his three and it's inconsistent Nick I said this yesterday when LeBron came into the league

LeBron did things that even Michael couldn't because of his physical stature sure but there are some things Michael does better than LeBron there are multiple things that Wemby does LeBron couldn't do and I never thought I would defensively LeBron can't physically genetically you can't do it And offensively, if he, if Wembe is cutting to the basket, if you don't throw bodies at that, well, it's over. The possession is over. I don't know how you don't give him an MVP.

Now we've gone to, now we've gone too far again. Now we've, now we, listen, this certainly defensively, Wimby is in route to being the greatest defensive player, if not ever, certainly since Bill Russell. Like, that would be, and he already, the best. defensive player I have ever seen in my lifetime is Akeem Olajuwon. The second best is Tim Duncan. And you could argue that Wimby right now is already better than both of them. Okay?

So like that part, that part is undeniable. But Wimby's here is my, and again, I think Wimby right now is third in the MVP race. I think the Spurs might be able to win the title. I think he is a great player. And they have, they also have overachieved in a. insane way. Nobody thought they would flirt with 60 wins that they'd be the two seed. But what you just told me is Wimby already can do things offensively that peak LeBron James couldn't do. I don't know what a single one of those things is. This year, Wimby, is averaging

a whole three more points, three than LeBron in year 23. LeBron and third, you know, the Swiss Army night, third option, LeBron's 21 a game. Wemby, who I think you're already comparing to Tiger at Pebble, is it 24 a game. And like, Wembe is not yet a better offensive player, just offensive player, than Devin Booker, much less a better offensive player than prime LeBron James. Let's be fair. LeBron was playing 46 minutes. Wemby's minutes are minuscule.

So per minute, his numbers are insane, but they are smartly protecting him because seven-fold. is a body type that's hard to keep healthy. So I'm so glad you brought up the minutes because Wembe this year is 100th than the NBA in minutes. Yes. He has played 500 fewer minutes than the guy I was talking about earlier, Luca, which is the equivalent of, at 30 minutes a game, 16 games fewer than Luca.

So that gap in Wembe's defensive impact versus Luca compared to Lucas' offensive impact versus Wimby, when you add, Lucas played the equivalent of 16 additional games, that gap must be just the sides of the Rock of Gibraltar. But set that aside. I am totally fine with the minute's conversation being a part of why someone says the Spurs are going to win the title. If they're this good with him playing 29 a game in the playoffs

when he plays 36, then they're going to be dominant. I think the minutes conversation belongs there. If people want to say, this is why I think Wimby is going to be the greatest player of all time. Because think about when he plays 34, 35 minutes a game. I think that's fair. If people want to say, I believe Wimby could average 30 a night if he played heavier minutes. I think that's fair. I do not think it is fair or with any precedent at all to use his lack of minutes.

as an argument for him to be MVP. MVP is not a hypothetical award. It is not a projection award. And I think when you have the season Shay is having and the season Luke is having to say, yeah, but what if Wimby was playing as much as them? He's not. And one of the taxes of not playing as much

typically is you don't get all of the awards. Now, maybe they'll win the title because of it, but I don't love the extra credit for not playing, which some people want to give to Wimby. because everybody loves him. I mean, the PR, this French kid who's never won anything and comes here and says, we play ethical basketball and they, I mean, it's unbelievable. Everybody's like, you know why the All-Star game was fixed because of Wimby? Well, I don't know. I know the

Americans beat them twice. I don't know. I just know that we, this guy, Colin, can you imagine just thought exercise? If next year and year three, having won nothing, but he had won a playoff game, if Caleb Williams is asked around week 13, hey, what do you think about you in the MVP race? And he goes right at Matt Stafford's throat. And he's like, well, we dominated him when we played him. I think actually completion percentage is an overrated stat. And here's where escapability really matters.

That's why I'm the MVP. You think the media would be like, man, love the gumption on that kid. And did you see the nail policy out on when he said it? No. Wimby comes here and is like, here's why I'm the MVP, the Thunder, the defending champs, we dominated them. It's my award. And everyone's like, wow, refreshing. It's an odd media double standard with the 7 foot 6 French kid. That's all I'm saying. Go ahead. That's funny. So I got a couple of things. Let's do, let's do this one. Let's do this one. So we all know that Cam Newton's career, because he took so many shots, Big Ben similarly, they age very quickly.

A Brady, who avoided sacks, practiced how to get sacked last forever, right? McVeigh and Stafford. Stafford, McVe, you know, he finds fifth rounders that helps Stafford. He's elevated his career. He's a better ram than he was a lion. He was good with both, but he's great now. And I look at the Knicks, and it's a really, Jay Mack. brought this up. I love Jalen Brunson. He's my favorite Nick ever, Ewing second Carmelo, well, Bernard King, Ewing. Yeah. But he's small. He gets attacked on the defensive end. He is completely high,

ball-centric. He's aging fast. He doesn't feel this year as good as last year. And my take is this is why the Knicks have to go after Yannis. They'll both be on the same timeline. For different reasons. Yonis injuries is aging. Brunson stylistically. We know this usage rate. You have to go back to Jordan. Number one usage rate, one, entitle. It wears guys down. And Brunson doesn't quite feel quite, quite as good as last year.

He's not going to age, I don't think, terribly well based on stylistically being attacked and having the ball. The Knicks have lost three straight. You can blame what you want. Let's talk. We'll do it. We've got a couple minutes here. Why are they suddenly not good? and the Brunson idea that go get Janus,

and the primary reason is your best current player's career is going in about three years to not look the same. So I think that I don't want to be too harsh on the Knicks because I do think that they have a puncher's chance to come out of the Eastern Conference. But the fact that I have relegated them to puncher's chance makes this season already close to a catastrophe. They were, obviously, with Indiana punting on the season,

Boston was, we thought, going to be in flux for a year. They beat Detroit in the playoffs last year. We thought that this was the Knicks moment to at least make a finals, the first finals this century. And instead, they feel to me like a third-tier contender. Like that you would, you have the top tier for me,

I know some would argue, but is OKC kind of by itself, but then also San Antonio, Boston, and I have the Lakers. People, some would have the Lakers in the next one, that's fine. And then the next group, to me, is Denver, Minnesota, Detroit, and

then you get to Cleveland, the Knicks. Same. Same. And that's That's really, really disappointing for the Knicks and not where Houston would be in that group, not where they're supposed to be. Yeah. And listen, maybe Brunton's been an excellent playoff player. Maybe they can, you know, have an upset in round two and then upset Boston in round two and change the narrative entirely. Obviously, I agree with you.

If they could get Janus, I think Janus, at least in the short term, makes every team basically every team better. better. But they traded so many of their assets for bridges that I think that's going to be a hard trade to execute. Can I throw a different option at you? Okay. What if you could just, you know, add a guy who's proven he can immediately become the best Swiss Army knife in the league for very little money for a final year in the league in LeBron James? Oh, I think it'd be like, I think on this team, it would work. And you don't have to, and you don't, it would, right. Brunson is playing the Luca role.

That's interesting. LeBron can, like, LeBron probably is better served with a slightly higher usage than he has now in L.A. Because he's deferring not just to Luca, but to Austin. No, but he's proving I can fit anywhere. And if I am asked to do less on offense, I can help you more on defense. Yeah. Be pretty good. Yeah.

Lakers could say, hey, can we have bridges in that deal? we could use a wing defender. Well, I don't know if they'd have to trade it. The thing is this. LeBron's a free agent. LeBron can just leave. I know that it's all happy-go-lucky right now in L.A. And I think that they have, I think that Celtics are my pick to win the title.

I would go Celtics, my first pick, thunder my second pick. And then I think the Lakers are right there with San Antonio as far as chances with Denver lurking. But we are not far removed from Jeannie Boss. telling anyone that will listen, you know, how annoying it's been having to deal with this part of LeBron's career. So I don't know that he'll be back with the Lakers next year. And I think the Knicks are a pretty good fit. All right. First things first after our show, I got to touch on this. So I said in August, I had somebody who I trust that had a very good relationship with

Howie Roseman and the Eagles. Tell me, Jalen Hertz is not well liked. He's hard to coach. can be stubborn. And then in November, Derek Gunn, a reporter in Philadelphia, respected reporter came out and said, yeah, he's patting the ball, he won't run the plays. Then today, Jeremy Fowler, respected journalist,

comes out and says, yeah, it's a problem. And everybody in the building knows it. And Nick, because the Eagles go through so many different coordinators, you know how people protect their careers. If you want to find information, go find somebody that got fired, replaced. They talk. And the Eagles just run through coordinators and they're very

aggressive with players and front office people. You and I have always been, I think, like Brock Purdy, kind of doubters on this. I said earlier, it feels very Russell Wilson. Hertz gets the credit when they win. None of the blame when they lose. You know,

Pete Carroll preferred the run game. Nick Serriani's like, let's throw less. That's not nobody's doing that with Mahomes. Your take on the story today that was unveiled about problems in Philly with Hertz. So I think the Russell Wilson comp is the one I've leaned on for quite some time, where neither was a first round pick, both, you know, went to multiple colleges, both nobody questioned their leadership or unique talents as a scrambler or as a rusher

at the quarterback position, but there were questions about being able to pass every quadrant of the field. also the odd part of both of their best pass was the deep ball. There's a lot of similarities between the players, including one a ton. Everywhere they went, one a ton. And they did have that it factor, which I think matters, played a lot of their best games in their biggest moments. That's particularly true, obviously, historically with Jalen. But I also think that one of the reasons A.J. Bray.

Brown in consecutive seasons could light that locker room on fire and remain popular amongst his teammates is because I think guys are like, well, somebody's got to say it. I'm glad AJ will take the hit for us. I'm not saying AJ handled it the right way, but if everyone thought AJ Brown was as out of pocket as the media thought, he would not have had the support within the locker room that he did seem to have. And I think that the Eagles, listen, Jalen Hertz played Patrick Mahomes and back-to-back Super Bowls, and the first one played excellent, came up short, and the second one played great,

and they trounce my chiefs. He will always have that, you can never ask question, can you win with Jalen Hertz? They did win, and they at one point won like 21 out of his 22 starts. That's all true. It's also true that you need a, in my opinion, you need a specific, type of team to have peak success with Jalen. He had that. I don't know that they have it anymore. And if he doesn't evolve as a more mature, pure passer, I think that they could have similar struggles. And the Eagles move off coaches and quarterbacks and coordinators. You say Howie

Roseman. It's also Jeffrey Lurie. So I do think this is a critically important moment in Jalen's career. And whenever you read an article where it says, we talked with 12 team sources right after the owner's meetings and then the coach's meetings with the coach team photo. It's like, man,

there's a lot of noise in that building about Jalen having some culpability for what went wrong last year. Nick Wright, long segment. We just, we just, you made a couple good points, so I kept you. You know, that's the way.

You know what? That's why I strive. Just 1% better every day, Colin. Great to see you, my friend. Nick Wright, first things first. And a heck of a podcast as well for a very reputable company. I will say that. The other thing, and I think we all admit this now, Tua, Tyler Murray, Jalen Hertz, Russell Wilson, size matters at quarterback.

You're looking at that video when we show Jalen Hertz video. I mean, he looks a foot shorter, and I'm not mocking it. It's just, it's really hard to see over the middle of the field. And we went through this era where it's like, well, it doesn't matter. I like my quarterbacks. Like I like my furniture. Big and hard to move. I like big guys.

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My dad's favorite player in NBA history. For most wins in the regular season and post-season combined, LeBron was kind of quiet last night. A couple thunderous dunks, 14, 5, and 6. Here are the most wins by player on the screen. Interesting, two Lakers, followed by Tim Duncan, the Chief, Robert Parrish, and then Carl, the Mailman Malone.

LeBron just stacking records in NBA lore. Basically, he has all the important ones, which is why I have him as the goat. Well, I mean, Bill Russell got 11 titles. That's the most important. I mean, yeah, when there was like nine teams in the league, whoopty damn do, you know? What's a big deal? Here's LeBron James' career accolades on the screen for you, big guy. Games played, wins, points, assists, all-stars.

I don't know why all-stars. Second an assist all-time. He said a very redeemable career, absolutely. Redeemable career. He's been a goldmine for this show for Colin Coward and his brand. I have been a LeBron fan. I'm a LeBron fan. I do think he fits eventually better elsewhere unless he takes a massive pay cut,

then he's certainly welcome back. Yeah. Hey, real quick, to go back, you know, you talked about LeBron and the Lakers' chances in the playoffs. You mentioned Minnesota as a scary team. So I spent the better part of an hour analyzing that series last year against Minnesota. So yeah, the Lakers got smoked. But it was different.

LeBron was like the number two guy clearly last year. Austin Rees was three. And oh, by the way, he was hurt. He had a major toe injury that almost required surgery. So his numbers were way down. So he had a major toe injury that almost required surgery. That's why they lost the series. No, no.

Let me finish. So he was not as good as he was in the regular season. And obviously the Lakers' top seven guys, Dorian Finney Smith, Gabe Vincent, they were being relied upon heavily. Now you got Marcus Smart, who's a cheque. champion, Jake La Ravia. I mean, you got, why are you laughing?

DeAndre Aiton, integral role players. I'm not worried about the Timberwolves. Lakers swept them in the regular season pretty handily. No, Nikiel Alexander Walker from Minnesota. We know Chris Finch is a friend of the show. One of my favorite guys. Is Ants still playing? Is Randall still playing?

Is Jane McDaniels still playing? I'm glad you brought up Randall. He had singularly the greatest series in playoff history that he's ever had against the Lakers. He never shoots that well from three or from the field. Why would he? Because they can't defend. They're spending so much time trying to stop Ant. So Randall was open.

Randall's always been a more than capable score. Julius Randall has had a very nice career. Hadn't had a lot of great playoff series. But the reason he scored against the Lakers, they didn't have anybody that could shut down Ants. So they had to build their defensive game plans around stopping him. Julius Randall gets thrown out like he can't play. I mean, what is his career average?

18? I mean, it's higher than that. that, isn't it? Well, I mean, he's a little higher than that, but it's a shooting percentage where he just will take bad shots, miss a lot of shots. Hey, by the way, Marcus Smart, go look at how he locked up. As a kid said, they put the seatbelt on Anthony Edwards in the last meeting. He was like one of 14. You like the seatbelt? I do that sometimes in league games. Oh, I bet. You're a real pleasure. You putting the seatbelt on who? The other 5'4 guy? Oh, God. You love those digs. Hey, personally, I like the jabs. It's funny. All right.

Let's move on to George Pickens, who nobody can put a seatbelt on. That guy's unbelievable. He's pretty dominant. Also, he's probably not showing up for voluntary OTAs. Jerry Jones gave this incredible soundbite when asked about Pickens. There's no issue with me with talking to agents. I need to do a better job of not getting, well, Daddy said I could have it. And him going to Mama and Mama saying Daddy said I could have it,

we've got to get on the same page. And I have something to do with that. It always works out. If he worked without an agent, he'd save a lot of money. Do you anticipate going into... With me. I mean, this is happening again, Colin. Well, agents, you know, they charge you a fee.

Do you want to know who Pickens agent is? Who? David Mulligetta. Oh, yeah. Same guy who got into it. with Jerry over Michael Parsons. So clearly he's making this personal. And, you know, in the political space now, everything is personal.

Who's the power? Jerry Jones has a personal issue with this guy. Okay, but who's got the power? Well, don't tell me as Jerry Jones. Is it Jerry? Yeah. I mean, George Pickens. Really?

What power does he have? Just because he's a billionaire? He doesn't want a damn thing. He has the longest championship playoff drought in the NFC, longer than the Panthers, the Saints. He's got C.D. Lamb. He's got enough. number one. There's always a dozen wide receivers in college who can come and play every year.

The agents don't have the leverage. I mean, and the really good players like JSN, the GMs sign them. There's never a head. Larry Fitzgerald didn't have contract, many contract disputes. You know, if you're a great Aaron Donald, Matt Stafford, you figure it out. You know, if it's owner and agent, I don't want to hear the agent's got the power. Sounds a lot like what Jerry was saying when they moved off Micah Parsons. Oh, yeah, we got the power. A lot of defensive end edge rushers out there had that work out.

Now they're trying to get Max Cosby. I see Bruce Feldman's mock draft just dropped. He had the Cowboys trading up to get David Bailey at three. That's how desperate they are for a pass rusher. First of all, that's a mock draft. Second of all, how did the Packers do with Micah Parsons? Oh, 7th, and then they didn't last long. They were great until he busted up his leg and he was out for the season.

I mean, come on. Listen, I know we like Jerry Jones and he's at a great run. He's a rich guy. He's just pushing all the wrong buttons. Now you're needling the agent of Pickens, who you already got into it with six months ago and lost Michael Parsons? A battle, by the way, he lost? I can't believe you're defending Jim.

You and your billionaire ilk. You're rich guys all hang out. What do they call? Coastal elites, oil money. Final story is the New York Giants. Your team of destiny. for 2026. So John Harbaugh has been taking some heat because

allegedly, you know, Joe Shane has no power now. He's the GM in name only. But at the league meetings, Harbaugh was talking about how happy he is with the partnership and they're working together. And he's really saying all the right thing. Look, there they are. Colin, it's just one happy family. It's all peachy in New York.

I cannot wait. I'm telling you, there are two teams in the draft. I'm fascinated by are the giants who I think should move down. And the dolphins, who I think should move up, I think the Giants draft is, do giants need a right tackle? They're seven in the first two rounds they can get. They don't need. And I'm not sure if the Utah tackle, Fanoe, is worthy of their pick. He's closer to 10, 12, 13.

I would love to see the Giants trade back, five, six spots, get another third round pick, fourth round pick. And I would love to see the dolphins go up and get. you know, Carnel Tate they don't need a running back it's about the only thing they don't need is a quarterback

and a running back but the dolphins have four third round picks would I give up one to go get the best right tackle available? Absolutely. I'd like to see I'd like to see the dolphins

use a third round pick one of their four move up just a couple of spots and go get that right tackle if Jeremiah loved Caleb Downs like a real can't miss guy. Well,

talk that the giants were interested in Caleb Downs because of what Harbaugh's success with that defense was with Kyle. Kyle Hamilton from Overband. And then, you know, the whole linebacker situation, Sonny Stiles is being pegged there. But this giant stuff is interesting, Colin. When I did my list of Jalen Hertz teams, I had yes and then I had maybes. We'll see after the season. And the giants are a maybe because I don't know what Jackson Darts going to be.

And if they're like a seven-win team and they don't make the playoffs, I think they don't make the playoffs, I think they could go hunting for a quarterback. Now, in the division stuff, but I mean, Jackson Dart, you think he's taking him to the Promise Land? I think Jackson Dart can win the division. Next year? Yeah. You saw the story on Jalen Hurst, didn't you?

Okay, so rank the quarterbacks in the NFC East while we're on it. Jaden Daniels, Dack, by the end of the year, Jackson Dart, Jalen Hurts. If you had said Dart, I would literally walk off the set. Jalen Hurts was a Super Bowl MVP. like 15 months ago. Nick Foles beat Tom Brady in a Super Bowl. Yeah, that was like eight years ago. I'm talking 15 months ago. So Jalen Hurts is now behind Jackson Dart.

Cowherd. Come on, bro. I thought you were having a great show with it. You were pitching a perfect game earlier. And now you're just hemorrhaging. They're warming up guys in the bullpen right now with that Jackson Dart take. Come on. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

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I'm very excited. And I like Mark Cuban a lot. I've said this before. If he ran for president, I'd consider voting for him. I think he's really smart. I think the company he started to cut pharmaceutical costs is one of the great businesses in American history. He is in Wall Street. there's an understood reality that he made one of the 10 great moves of all time with Yahoo

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He's one of the nice guys. but here he was on a pod I don't know if I buy this here we go if fans don't like what you're doing or the team's not doing well you're the worst human being on the planet and they treat you that way

do you have any regret I don't regret selling I regret who I sold too yeah I made a lot of mistakes in the process and I'll leave it at that when I called the new owner and he started telling me stuff that wasn't true that he had been told

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That's just not the way the world works. Mark's really smart. I think, I mean, nobody else is supporting the claim that Mark is making, which is I thought I could call more shots. He also hired Nico, who's been fired. I think what's happening is Mark is still getting heat for the Luca, shrapnel for the Luca trade. And, you know, a little protection here.

I do think one of the things I do believe, he said he didn't want his kids necessarily, you know, working for the Mabbs. If things go wrong, you know, with all the social media, it's a vile space to be, whatever. But I don't know. I like Mark a lot. But I, listen, if you can make 12 and a half times the money when you sell something, you sell it.

and I think he's a brilliant guy. But I mean, am I wrong on that to be a little cynical? Just a little bit on the, wow, it's caught me off guard with the Adelson's. They were pretty well known. I mean, right. And I understand the protection he is trying to build around family and himself. And I mean, that Luke could trade. I think what's happening is every time the Lakers play,

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