The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - NBA chemistry can easily be ruined, college football rankings, Fernando Mendoza is ready, Joel Klatt

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Colin talks about how 1 player can destroy the chemistry of a NBA locker room He talks to FOX College Football analyst Joel Klatt about Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza, teams who have joined the Big 10, the college football rankings, and moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I saw this Golden State lost their sixth consecutive road game. They went to OKC. I've always felt like in the NBA, you've got to be because it's the smallest locker room. So one bad apple or one bad relationship can screw up. Remember the Jordan Pool Warrior thing a couple years ago, just screwed up the whole team. I mean, they talked about it after he was traded to Washington. They're like, yeah, screwed up the whole team. I always feel like Oklahoma City last year, all young, all aspirational, unified. Denver three years ago, all their star players, none of them had a title.

None of them had a chip. Yokic, Murray, Gordon, Porter, unified. Celtics, Tatum, Jalen Brown, unified. I never feel like the Warriors now are unified. Old guys work. KD worked, Iguodala worked, Jimmy Butler works, Bogut worked. Every time they bring new guys in, there's a struggle. Because it's not unified.

Staff, what, 37, four titles. Dremont, 35-ish four titles. Then you have pods and comminga. They're just trying to establish themselves. It's a totally different timeline. psychologically, physically, it just doesn't make any sense. It's not a unified team. Steve Kerr is not a therapist.

He's a coach. And so Draymond Green was talking about agendas after last night's loss. I think everybody was committed to winning and doing that in any way possible. You have to make those personal agenda work in the team confines. And if it doesn't work, then you kind of got to get rid of your agenda. or eventually the agenda is the cause of someone getting rid of you. Well, my argument would be, is Pods and Cominga, do they have agendas or are they just ambitious? There's a fine line between having an agenda and being super ambitious.

And I just, I don't, I never feel like the young guys really ideally work with the old guys with the warriors. It's always been a much easier place to bring an old guy in. Iggy, KD, Butler. Butler worked the first game. He literally worked instantly. KD. worked instantly. Iggy worked instantly.

Young got, Kaminga. I mean, what are we on now? Year four? I mean, Pods is year, what, two, three? Just doesn't feel like it's going to work. And with that, Joel Klatte joins us off a wild, wild weekend. Oh, so, you know, it's interesting. I was, if you're going to be the first or second player in a draft, they always say, just go pro.

Okay, it doesn't matter. I remember Matt Liner years ago came back to college. He was a top 10 pick, and people said that if you're top 10, just go pro. You can get hurt. You can lose your rhythm. You may lose a great left tackle or a coach. I'm watching Mendoza for Indiana play. Big, strong, huge arm, great in crisis.

hard for me to not look at him and go, that's a Sunday player. I don't know. I mean, to me, I feel the same way about Dante Moore, but Mendoza has such a big arm that when you were calling the game and watching it, did it feel like an NFL quarterback to you? Yeah, I mean, listen, it wasn't perfect. He struggled at moments during that game. Their protection plan wasn't what wasn't great. And Penn State did a great job defensively. That was the best defensive game Penn State has played maybe the entire season. They shut down, Indiana's run game. It made it difficult on him. But Mendoza made some big throws when he needed to, and namely on that last drive, you know, that first play of that last drive, by the way, they were sacked.

So they've got 87 yards to go. There's a minute 30 left and they have got no timeouts. And the guy goes right down the field, big throw after big throw after big throw. And every one of them was leveraged properly and inaccurately in a places where only his guy could get it. Now, granted, they made some incredible catches. The Becker catch was wild. Cooper, I mean, Gus and I, we're losing our minds with that catch of the back of the end zone. But to your question, yes, Mendoza is a pro. There's no doubt about it. And for me, it's not even necessarily about, like, well, where is your stock this year? To me, it's about, are you ready?

Are you ready? Because what you see in the NFL, and I brought this up and I bring this up constantly with you, if you look at the guys that win Super Bowls, on average in the last two and a half decades, If you go to their college career, they've all started over 30 games. Well, Mendoza started two years at Cal and now a year at Indiana. So he's highly experienced. I value that a lot more than even just these few games of tape that Ty Simpson has played at Alabama, who doesn't have that body of work from a starts perspective.

Now, that doesn't mean that Mendoza is definitely going to be better than Ty Simpson. It means that those two decisions for Mendoza, whether he wants to come out or not, and Ty Simpson, are different. because of their experience level and how much experience they have. I think that the NFL and the guys and teams and organizations that are really smart really value the guys that have a deep body of work. By the way, Dante Moore, ugly game in Iowa, made a huge throw up the right sideline. The college football, 12-team college football bracket right now,

you'd have Oregon against Notre Dame. How do you view Dante Moore? Now, they were missing all the receivers. But like Simpson. Like Simpson, he needs more time. Like if I'm Dante Moore, if I was advising Dante Moore, I would say go back to school. Now, what he did against Iowa was fantastic. And similar to Mendoza, it wasn't great all day.

And then he gets into a two-minute situation and he plays his best football. And by the way, he did that without a lot of receivers. I think you were about to say that before I interrupted you. They were missing four of them. I think they missed four of them. All of his best wide receivers that tied in to Corey and Moore, all these guys. And yet he was still able to orchestrate. the drive in a tough environment, tough conditions against a very good team and end up winning the

game. Like, there's a lot I love about Dante Moore, but I do think he needs more time as a quarterback. But that's a team that's getting better. Their defense is getting better. They showed up to Iowa and they beat Iowa in an Iowa game. And that tells me a lot about the nature of their team, the physicality of their defense, their ability to run the football. They did a really great job in that game because Iowa was playing really well. It's a tough place to win and to come up with that win showed me a lot. So I think this is interesting.

So when the USC's and the Oregon's in UCLA, Washington, join the Big Ten, the big take was, oh, it's cold. Good luck. Well, I've seen USC beat Nebraska. I've seen Oregon beat Ohio State and Eugene and Penn State. I've seen Washington when at Maryland.

And I've seen these Pact 12 teams go out to L.A. And I watched Penn State lose to UCLA and USC Hammer, Michigan. Do you think we can all take a deep breath now is that the whole West Coast team can't compete in the snow? When I watch these games, I think Iowa's going to lose in L.A. this weekend. I think Minnesota is going to lose to Oregon this weekend. I always thought it was overstated. Do you? Do you think that whole West Coast team playing Midwest won't work?

I think it's working fine for West Coast teams. Well, West Coast is different than South Beach. If you ask me like, hey, Miami, you know, like Miami is going to be in the cold, whether it's the dolphins or the canes.

I'm like, they don't handle that very well. You know, I don't think USC plays great on the road, even though they got a win against Nebraska. But most college teams don't. Most college teams, that's right.

And I'm not, I would disagree with you in this. I'd still believe, that this game at its core is about matchups. And for instance, Illinois was a bad matchup for USC. Why? Because they wanted to run the football right at that defense. And that's one of the areas of weakness for USC's defense.

That was a big issue when they played Notre Dame. Even Michigan, even though they were able to win the game, Michigan was able to run the football well. Well, they're welcoming a team. Granted, it's at home where they've played better. What do you think Iowa is going to do? You see, this is a bad matchup for USC. The Iowa defense is specifically suited to take a team like USC and frustrate them because they won't be able to get chunk plays.

They've got levels of defense, tips and overthrows usually end up in the hands of the defender. That's how they turn the ball over, create short fields. And then they're going to run the absolute crap out of the football. And they're going to say, hey, USC, can you stop it? And they're going to run and then run and then run and then run some more. And I've got serious doubts that USC can hold up in a game like that. Serious doubts. I think Iowa wins this one outright.

They're six and a half point dogs. I think Iowa wins on the West Coast. Wow. Because of matchup. Again, that specificity of where Iowa wants to play, where they're strong, and where USC is weak. So I was thinking of this. I was looking at the college football bracket.

Texas NM can win the SEC, not play Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Bama or Georgia. They play a lot of teams that just fired their coach. You're saying regular season, right? Regular season. They would have to play one of those teams in the champ game, or maybe even Texas, if Texas was able to get into the championship.

To win the SEC, they will have to beat someone very good that earned their way into that position. Okay, last year, we watched this playoff, and we thought after we watched it, maybe Indiana shouldn't have been in. Oh, no. I mean, that was a terrible... You're not going to give me this.

You're not going to give me this. I'm saying, give me somebody right now. Listen, we got that from the atrocious commentary during the game, and they started throwing that. I guess when I didn't hear that, when Ohio State was drilling Tennessee, and that was even a bigger margin. So, no, no, no.

I don't know exactly where you were going on that. You got me all triggered on this Indiana. Didn't deserve to be in last year. I will tell you this, though. Schedules in general need to be rethought within conferences. So I will agree with your point that you're trying to make on the underlying thing. Like for instance, for instance, and for example, I believe that the better teams in the conference or the teams that finished high in the standings one year should have to play the

tougher conference schedules the next year. Agree. In order to drive more parity, in order to drive more fairness. That's what the NFL does and that's what we should do within conference versus leaving it up to chance, I understand that you've got to retain some rivalries and there are games that are always going to be on the schedule, and that's fine, just like the NFL. We always play two division games, but there's those few matchups,

and they're just little tipping point matchups where you're going to play a first-place schedule in the NFL. I think we should have our version in college football of a first-place schedule, where if you win the conference like Oregon did last year in the Big Ten, that you would have to then go and play a more difficult slate of games in the Big Ten the next year. And if you finish last, like whoever finished last this year, I don't know,

Northwestern or Rutgers or someone along those lines, you would get an easier draw. And you wouldn't have to go and beat your head against the wall facing like Indiana and Ohio State and Michigan and Oregon all in one year. So your premise, I think, is correct. Yeah. You know, by the way, that USC Notre Dame game, everybody shed tears when I suggested maybe it's not the greatest thing for USC. If USC beats Iowa this week, it'd be a good game.

I agree with you. I think it's, I like USC close, but it's a good game. If they did not play Notre Dame this year, USC didn't play them. They could go to Oregon. If they were competitive, they'd have a loss to Illinois and Oregon. They'd make the playoff. That Notre Dame game, which is... This is the problem with an at-large playoff. This is the problem when it's not tied to a defined path or automatic births. You know, when we're in a beauty pageant, it's going to encourage teams like Notre Dame or USC or any team to not schedule difficult non-conference games. That's a problem in college football,

which, by the way, I do think that one of the reasons why Texas is being ranked so high as they are now by the committee is that the committee is trying to give them the benefit of the doubt that they went out and played Ohio State. Totally agree. And they're trying to not knock them or hold that against them

so that they can encourage others to do the same. You know, there's been a, it's discussed, I don't know how much traction it's gotten, but Colin, they have discussed at some level behind closed doors, having somewhat of a point system in college football to go along with the committee and maybe even overtake the committee. And it would go as follows. Like, let's just say Texas and Ohio State play this year and there are both top five teams and now they're both top 10 teams still here late in the November to go and play that game. And even if you went on the road and lost, you would get five

points in a PowerPoint structure. Meanwhile, if you were to schedule a game, like let's say Texas didn't want to play Ohio State and they wanted to play like, I don't know, UT, you know, San Antonio or some lower level to Louisiana Tech Monroe, whatever it is, even if they won that game at home in the non-conference, they would get zero points. So in a point structure type of system, as we're trying to compete for the college football playoff, we would have a point system that rewarded teams

for going and playing tough non-conference games versus scheduling a cupcake in their home stadium. I think that's something interesting. I would love to vet that out a little bit more, but that's something that has been talked about in college football. All right, you have Michigan Northwestern at Rigley. this weekend. Where are you with Michigan right now? The coach, the quarterback's super talented. They've got some receivers in the quarterback I like. But where are we? You know when legends leave,

when Chip Kelly left Oregon, we liked Mark Helfrich. The longer he was there, it didn't work. It is very, the history tells you when a legend leaves, giving the job to a staff member that stays doesn't work. Remember, you go back to Miami. Wait, I'm sorry. Do we, is it not working for Ohio State and Ryan Day? Hold on. Wait. Is Ryan Day not the highest percentage winning coach in the history

of college football? Ryan Day was this hot guy that could have gotten a head job in a lot of places. Ryan Day was the buzz. He was like Ben Johnson. A lot of people talking about Ryan Day. NFL teams talked about Ryan Day.

Right? Like the coordinator, who's this young kid? When you give the job to a staff member generally when allegedly... I mean, calling Sharon Moore just a staff member. He was the coordinator of the national champion. You think he couldn't have got a job? He was the

interim head coach against Penn State in a top five matchup on the road. He beat Ohio State as the interim. Like, he was the head coach for those games. But history says, even in the NFL, go get a successful head coach, Bama. Go get Nick State. How'd that work for

LSU with Brian Kelly? Well, it wasn't How'd that work for Texas A&M with Jimbo Fisher? Well, you know, Jimbo, I was never a big Jimbo guy to begin with. So that wasn't a guy I would have hired and given $100 million to. See, I disagree with you. I actually look around and I think Penn State is in a pickle right now

because they're trying to create something out of thin air. Whereas what has worked so far, you've got two guys that were elite-level coordinators that got jobs at places that had had success before them and infrastructure to continue that success. Success, sorry. That's Kirby Smart at Georgia, and that's Dan Landing at Oregon. Then you've got the guys that were great head coaches at a lot of places that won football games that can go into someplace and replace and do well. That's Kalin DeBoer. That was Urban Meyer

when he left from Utah and went to Florida and then ultimately Ohio State. And then you have the guys that were promoted from within. Davos Sweeney was promoted from within. You've got Lincoln Riley was promoted from within. You've got Sharon Moore. was promoted from within. You've got Ryan Day who was promoted. So like that works. And I don't think that you can just say one doesn't and one does. I personally believe that Michigan,

they're the youngest team in the Big Ten right now. They're seven and two. And they could put themselves in a position where if they were to beat Ohio State for the fifth straight time, they would go to the playoff. So I don't, there's no way you could categorize this as, not working. They're super young and they're really good. No, I asked the question. I said, I didn't say it wasn't working. I said, where are you? You're implying, though. They've been really inconsistent, like not competitive against USC.

You know, week to week, not quite sure what I get. I think Underwood's unbelievable. That's fair. No, listen, I think that's fair and I think that that's part and parcel to a young team and a young head coach. I would be really surprised if this doesn't trend in a really positive direction from this point moving forward. All right. I mean, they're going to beat Northwestern. Maybe. Northwestern is a good football team. Well, they are.

You're going to be with us. Am I going to see you? Well, listen. You're going to be a big noon kickoff. That is being negotiated. Negotiated. Does it have to do with the temperature outside? Actually, Saturday is going to be nice and shot.

That's what I saw. supposed to be like 62 or something like that. It's 62 here every day. Sometimes there's white stuff on the ground, but it's still 62. Good seeing you, buddy. Great to see you as well, man. Have a good day. I'm not saying, yeah, I'm not saying Michigan's not going to work. I'm saying in my

lifetime, generally, go get to Chris Peterson, go get to Brian Kelly, go get a Nick Sabin, go get somebody that succeeded. I mean, people bang on Lincoln Riley. He won 11 games in over four years at Oklahoma. He was a successful coach. You can do it with the Ryan days. But you know what? One Natties was Urban Meyer at Florida, who'd been a head coach, Urban Meyer at Ohio State. Generally, I am at a top program with all the pressure, go get a big dog.

Now, I think Brian Kelly was a weird fit. The southern twang, it just didn't feel right. And I think he took it for the money. They're arguing over money still at LSU with Brian Kelly. I think he took it for the paycheck. And that, okay, I've said, one six is the first number. in your age, people take jobs for paychecks. It's not about how it works going forward, or it's, you know, hey, can I get a vacation place in Naples? You know, people make those decisions all the time. But I'm not saying the Michigan thing's not going to work, but I've watched a couple

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So I thought it was interesting when Joel Klat says, and I've heard this now from two different people, Dante Moore to Oregon, should stay in college. Great kid. I think he's ready for the pros. I don't think the extra year is going to change anything. But, you know, he's a great, humble kid.

It's not going to hurt him to stay in college. Because I don't know if he'd be the number one pick. But I looked at the mock draft today. So if you take the worst six teams in the league, here is the current NFL draft order. Okay. Tennessee won, New Orleans, two, Giants three, Cleveland, four, Jets, five,

Raiders 6, bad teams. Tennessee and the Giants aren't taking quarterbacks. Okay. New Orleans, I think should. Okay, I think they should. They'd take Mendoza. Big, strong, starts, smart, can move. Mendoza, Indiana is your number one quarterback off the board.

Well, Cleveland, the Jets, and the Raiders only new quarterback. And if Dante Moore is not available, I don't buy the rest of these guys as coming and start guys. I'd go get Mack Jones. If you're not watching the Niners right now, don't have Brandon Ayuk. Don't have a great offensive line. Don't have Ricky Pierce, Pearsall. Don't have it. Debo's gone.

Trade. Mac Jones, ninth best passer rating second in passing yards. So PFF has him as the ninth best quarterback. That's above Caleb Williams. although Caleb's been the last two weeks has moved up. So, I mean, last week, 33 or 39, I don't care if it's underneath. He's doing it with backups. Kendrick Bourne.

Is it born back there? I swear he's back. So that's my take. And I don't think San Francisco wants to relinquish Mac Jones because Brock Purdy has been banged up. But last year, the Seahawks were like, yeah, we're not going to draft the guy with our top pick. Let's get Sam Darnold worked out pretty well. Minnesota's like, we'll let Sam Donald go. We're going to take the guy we drafted.

How's that working out? The Colts are like, no, we tried drafting guy Anthony Richardson. We're going to go get a guy in the league, Daniel Jones. You watch the Colts? So the Colts and the Seahawks are like, we'll take guys in the league. Tampa Bay, we'll take Baker Mayfield, guy in the league. That's working out. Okay, now Mendoza is an A prospect.

Big, smart, strong. I mean, you can't watch that last drive against Penn State on the road. Those are great. big boy Sunday throws. But as Joel Clat says, if Dante Moore doesn't come out, none of these guys. Nuss Meyer, Simpson, these guys aren't ready to come into the NFL and start. No way. I think Dante Moore could if he got the right coach, he'd flourish if he didn't need struggle.

Mendoza, I think, is good enough to overcome some nonsense, even if he joins a, you know, New Orleans got a bit of a mess. But if you're not paying attention to Mack Jones, Mac Jones is having an understanding an unbelievable you know I always thought Mac Jones was after the New England experience kind of a bridge guy

nah no I think he's a franchise guy I mean when he had Josh McDaniel's pro bowler now Shanahan good BB Plus guy can spin it JMAQ with the news

no no no turn on the news this is the herd line news these are troubled times Colin for Green Bay Packers fans They are very, very upset with Mr. Matt LaFleur. The fans are outraged, back-to-back, bad home losses where the offense just look ghastly. The media asked LaFleur if he felt like he is coaching for his job.

Yes, his job the rest of the season. I'll leave that for everybody else to decide. I'll just focus on the day-to-day and trying to do. I feel like you're always coaching for everything in this league. You know, that's just my mindset. it's always been that way. You know, you can't ever exhale. You've got to always be pushing.

And that's just my mindset. And that will be my mindset until they tell me not to coach me anymore. Yeah, I don't think he'd be unemployed long. I think he'd get a job real quick if somebody wanted to let him go. Listen, they had a bad free agent signing. They overpaid banks from San Francisco. That's been a bad free agent. signing the Micah Deal was a good deal.

They are broken offensively. The scripted stuff doesn't work. The run game doesn't work. They do have, I think, the craft injury and the read injury are punitive. Like, it's noticeably, it hurts. But I think all this talk of firing Matt Lafleur, I've said, who have I compared Matt LaFleur to? McVeigh? No, Lincoln Riley.

Oh, Lincoln Riley, right, right. Okay. I just had this conversation over the weekend. Matt LaFleur and Lincoln Riley. You know they're smart. you know they win games. You know, they're great play designers. You know they're on the right side of the ball and football today.

You know they're great play callers. Although LeFleur gets banged on that. And by the way, they have a history of elevating Matt. Aaron Rogers got better. McCarthy left. LeFleur came in. Aaron won MVP. And LaFleur, by the way, Jordan Love was very good.

I think a lot of this is simply Jordan Love, when you take away his best tight end and arguably his best receiver. And they can't run the ball. You're asking them to win games. I think Mahomes can do that, and Lamar and Josh can do that. I don't think Jalen Hertz and Jordan Love are that kind of guy.

Suddenly the Eagles can't run. Jalen Hertz isn't as good. Suddenly the Packers can't run. That Jordan Love doesn't look as good. The Chargers have no run game, no offensive line, and they're in a three-game winning streak. Because that's what an elite quarterback

does. I think Jordan Love, we've overvalued him. He's probably closer to B plus than he is A, and that's okay. But the idea that Matt LaFleur can't coach, I don't know. Yeah, so a couple things here. Number one, the interior of the offensive line of the Packers is garbage. I mean, by the way, their center just went on IR today. And I was reading some stuff. He may be done for the season. That is terrible news. They could not block Jalen Carter up the middle. Love was struggling. He can handle pressure off the edges because their tackles are good. But their interior three are grading out horribly, including your guy banks. So if you're looking to bet this weekend, the Giants do not get pressure up the middle.

They come off the edges. Packers will be fine. I do wonder, this Lefleur fire him stuff. We have a mutual friend who's in the Midwest, and he was talking. He's like laughing at this stuff. Like, this is goofy. Colin, two years ago, when the Chargers fired their guy Staley, there was an obvious candidate, Jim Harbaugh. Last year, there was an obvious candidate, Vrable.

there's no obvious candidate this year, and I'm sorry to burst your Lane Kiffin bubble. People are not firing their head coach to go get Lane Kiffin. There's no slam dunk coordinator or college football guy that is like, we got to fire our guy and go get him. That's part of the reason I haven't said, like, let's get rid of Aaron Glenn. I don't think there's anyone great on the market. McCarthy's good, we would agree. Yeah. They're not bringing McCarthy back to Green Bay.

Right. So who are you getting if you fire LaFleur? Well, Penn States found this out. they fire James Franklin. It's like, because of a losing streak, it's like, well, slightly different. They kind of had to. I mean, he lost the locker room.

He lost the booster. He lost everybody. I don't know. I just look around. Tell me, who's the number one candidate if you have a coaching opening in the NFL? And if you say Lane Kiffin, we like Lane. Mike McCarthy is the number one candidate. Okay.

Well, he ain't going back to Green Bay. That's right. That's right. So then, so what do we do it? Are we firing him for Jesse Minter of the Chargers? We're not doing that. Are you going to get a retread like Nagy? Or Vance Joseph?

Well, also, if you brought into defensive coach, he'd get rid of Jeff Halfley, who's been a home run defensive coordinator hire. So there's just no great offensive guys out there? Now, you could say, if you want to get real creative, you know, I know Alabama and Kalin DeBore had some issues at the beginning, you know, the Alabama fans, after like the lost FSU, they were done with him like that quickly.

Kailen DeBore is freaking good. Are you watching Alabama closely? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The sequencing, everything about this. Kalyn DeBork and coach in the pros. No question. That's a guy I would consider and if obviously Marcus Freeman.

Yeah. I don't think Freeman's on the market. Ryan Day is maybe interesting. Yeah. But if you talk to Klatte, there's no way Ryan Day's leaving. Like, right? I don't know. Anyways, all right, let's move on to the next story.

The Philadelphia Eagles, Colin, are seven and two tied with Ziox and Rams for Best Record of the NFC ahead of their matchup with the Lions. Nick Siriani, how about this stat? This is staggering. Nick Siriani, walk around. guy, Nick Siriani, is fourth all time among NFL head coaches with a 714 win percentage. Yeah.

This is a staggering stat. Guy Chamberlain, whoever that is, probably when you were watching football back in the day, we all know John Madden, Lombardi, George Allen, Nick Siriani? Well, I think that list is a great example. Outside of Lombardi and Madden is George Allen a top five coach. and I remember him well is Guy Chamberlain. I don't know who that is. Yeah.

So a lot of it's situational. I mean, we look at the greatest coaches of all time. Where's Bill Walsh? Yeah. Where's Belichick and Andy Reek? Yeah. So that's why these all-time lists, be careful. I think he's shown to be a really good fit in Philly,

but I don't think if he lost the job, he'd have a lot of job offers out there. I think people think he works in Philly with Howie and Jeffrey Lorry and Jalen Hertz and the roster. I don't think he's bad. He's better than I thought he would be. But I think it's a collaborative effort in Philly. Yeah.

And, you know, certainly helps to get Jailen Hertz, obviously who's been a slam dunk. And then, you know, trading for A.J. Brown, who we're going to talk about in the next hour, Colin, just as a tease. That's what they call it here in the industry. Final story is the Vikings. And listen, I have strong thoughts about this J.J. McCarthy stuff, Colin.

We got to dig into it here. So remember last year, Vikings winning every game with Sam Darnold, right? But JJ McCarthy, the young guy they drafted and Kevin O'Connor loves him. You know, McCarthy's had four starts and he's got a lot of injuries. And you say he's injury prone and slight. I saw him running around against the Ravens and I was getting nervous because he's not a big dude. How about this? An NFL analyst says the Vikings have a game flow problem saying JJ is great on the scripted stuff,

right? First drive of the game that you plan all week and map it out. but falls off a cliff after the first two drives. He does. That's exactly right. I mean, it's not splitting the Adam. We've talked about this, right? Here's my thing.

The man is the youngest starting quarterback in the NFL. He's about to have his fifth NFL start. Yeah. Does it not seem weird that everybody's going after J.J. McCarthy? And is it because of Darnold was good last year? Because, Colin, you and I have talked about this for years. The way to build an NFL team is on a rookie quarterback contract. Sam Darnold at 40 million.

great? Sure, but it ended badly last year. I would rather have JJ McCarthy on the rookie contract and round out the roster. So I don't understand why there's so much hate for McCarthy and people keep going after him. He's had four starts. I don't think there's hate.

I think there's cynicism. This is not college football. It's pro. And I said on Monday, right, wrong. I could be totally wrong on this. I didn't get it in college. I don't get it now. I think the best argument for J.J. McCarthy is the argument for Sam Darnel. When Sam came out of USC, he was 21. Okay?

When you're that young, you need really, really good coaches to start. The difference is J.J. McCarthy is super young and does have that. So I'm going to be less patient with J.J. McCarthy. He had a great college coach and has a really good NFL coach. Sam Darnold went from below average college coach to a disaster head coach. So I think your young argument, absolutely legitimate. But the difference is Sam went from bad to bad. The Vikings have been well run my entire life. You can go back to the 70s.

They've always been a good franchise. Kevin O'Connell's way above average. And Harbaugh is a great coach. So JJ's gotten great coaching. And I get this. So I, the age thing is real. But he got, I mean, honestly, Kevin O'Connell, Justin Jefferson, elite left tackle, Jordan Addison, a division without a great defense before Micah got to Green Bay. Like, he should be better than this.

Fair, Derisow has had some injuries to left tackle. But he's a really good left tackle. Yeah, he's excellent. I guess I just want, I know patience isn't a thing that we have in society right now, but can we see a sample size of, I don't know, a season or two? I mean, people are willing to write out Michael Pennix already. No, no. He hasn't looked great. No, I said with J.J. McCarthy.

I want to play him every snap the rest of the year, every snap. This is not a bench him. It's like play J.J. I'm saying my initial belief is he looks like Michigan J.J. McCarthy that he's kind of being carried. He's not carrying. And that's what I want to see. I'll say this. I'll just put it on record.

I was bullish on the Vikings in the offseason. I'm buying J.J. McCarthy stock. Penny's on the dollar. Give it to me. I believe this is a potential pro bowl quarterback in a year. or two and maybe all pro within five years. I'm really a believer in J.J. McCarthy. Well, I like your stand. I like where you're, you know, you're going, you're going your heels in sometimes. I mean, you're all in on Caleb. We're going Midwest on the show now.

I may as well, find another Midwest quarterback. I'm not taking Jordan Love. All right. Jay, uh, Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. No, I did that earlier. I said, it's very difficult. It's easy to spend somebody else's money. But if you were a general manager, you were, and I put down the 11 quarterbacks in the NFL, 25 and under, and I said pick three that you would write a check for, knowing that when you write the check, like if you wrote it for Caleb Williams, you can't keep DJ Moore, Joe Tooney. You can't. Drake May doesn't have a lot of stars around him.

The best players, you know, Will Campbell, Trayvian Henderson, Kyle Williams, they're all rookies. so you wouldn't have to make big changes there. But when I put that list up an hour ago, and I said, okay, you've got to pay three of them. Drake May is the easy one. Of the other 10 remaining, I would pay today. I would extend C.J. Stroud and Caleb Williams, and their passer ratings hover around 90,

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