The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - New Herd Hierarchy, World series last night, Jordan Love and the Packers, Nick Wright

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Then, it’s Week 9 of the NFL season, and Colin unveils his updated Herd Hierarchy — explaining why the Kansas City Chiefs remain the clear No. 1 team in the NFL, how the Buffalo Bills have bounced back, and which teams are surging into playoff form Nick Wright from 'First Things First' stops by The Herd to talk about Colin's new top 10 rankings, the World Series, Jordan Love and the Packers, Justin Herbert and moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How lucky are we? How we just happen to have another World Series game tonight at the home of the greatest baseball team that's ever played? You think I'm nuts on that. Just watching the Dodgers. Will Klein.

Four scoreless inning. What? Who's Will Klein. You only know who he is now. It's just remarkable. Everybody's a little bleary-eyed on our staff. You think that game was hard to stay up for in Los Angeles. Try the Midwest.

Hey, Colin, I'm just curious. Where are you on the whole intentional walk stuff? I get it. It's strategy, blah, blah, blah. But I'm not going to lie. You know, we kept the kids up for the whole game last night. They were into it. Otani's going off, having a historical game.

And then you walk him every single time. That was just annoying. You know, I want to see the best player bat. I know I get it. Baseball purists understand, but I'm curious where you chime in on the intentional walk. I, Barry Bonds had a stretch when he was on, you know, cream or whatever. Like you couldn't get him out. And I think, I don't love it either.

I don't think it's dynamic. But you know what? The Dodgers have so many bats around him. I would be more annoyed with it if he was with the angels and you were doing it and nobody could drive him in. But I don't think it affects the outcome. I don't know. After last night, Do you think Otani is going to get any bulls to hit today or is just going to walk him every time?

Walk him. That's not great for the product. I don't. Yeah. I mean, like if you extrapolate it out to an entire season and nobody would pitch to Otani, that would not be great. So, you know, baseball has done a good job of tweaking things. I mean, maybe there's a new rule. You can't intentionally walk anybody more than one time.

More than once. I think that's a great idea. Can you propose that next time we have Manfred and company on? No, I think it's, I think, listen, baseball more than any sport in the last. last two years has tweaked and all of it's worked and I don't think I mean listen you have exceptional players and you have I mean there was a time in basketball that they were thinking of outlawing the dunk because it was too easy for wilt I mean you you you talk you think are there too many three pointers in the NBA you talk about these things you table it you see if people like

it the push push we're going back and forth on the touch push so I do think Oatani may be the player that creates that you can't you and by the way you can't and by the way there is strategy involved because you want the force, so sometimes you don't want an open base, you want to load it up, ground ball gets two. So it's worth discussing at the winter meetings. I love it. All right, here we go.

The herd hierarchy on a Tuesday. The hierarchy. Time is now, let's go. The top 10 NFL teams, according to college, number 10. Well, the Buffalo Bills are 5 and 0 when James Cook rushes for a thousand, 100 yards. A rush for 100 yards. Josh Allen only had to throw the ball 19 times. I don't think they're very good against the run. Their past defense is fine, but they're a very good team. It's a long season. I like their O-line, their run game, Josh Allen. They could probably use another

receiving piece against the better defenses like Kansas City. But they're back in the top 10. Number 10. Number nine. New England beat them. All put New England. Not You know, New England is the only team since the 50s. First eight games, they haven't allowed a running back 50 plus yards. So Vravel made him tougher, better against the run, and let's just be totally frank here. Drake May looks like a top six, seven quarterback in the league. He may not be, but he's completing 75% of his throws and his passer ratings 119. So the numbers say he is.

Again, I think they need another weapon. I like the running back room. They're good enough Hunter Henry at tight end, but this is about coaching and an exploding young star at quarterback. Don't think they're a Super Bowl team, but I have them at nine. Number eight. Broncos are a little inconsistent for me. I do think Sean Payton is coaching Bo Nix. He wants him to throw the ball down the field more, and sometimes it gets ugly.

But here's the numbers you have to think of. This team has allowed the fewest sacks in the NFL and has also has 10 more sacks than anybody in the NFL. That travels. Denver's not going anywhere. It's why I think they're one of the few teams that matches out with Kansas City. You can't get to Bo Nix and they get to your quarterback, Denver at 8. Number seven. Bucks are all beat up. I put them at seven mostly because they have a veteran quarterback and Bo Nix as a kid. They're all beat up offensively, but they are still 20 plus yards down the field. Baker's the best quarterback in the league. They have been outgained in four straight games. So there's a little fools gold when they get into these winning streaks.

They're not pretty. They're all banged up. But I think we all acknowledge at number seven feels about right. Number six. The Rams, they went and got a corner from Tennessee. I may have them a little low. Highest overall grade and highest graded offense in the NFL, according to PFF. Now they have one of the last pocket quarterbacks. So if you can get to Matt Stafford, that's the key. And their O line is good. I don't think it's great. They lead the NFL in big pass plays. Even when Puka was gone, they brought in a fourth tight end. Smart coach, great quarterback.

They don't move the pocket a ton. So sometimes Stafford, if protection, pro pass protection, regresses that he can feel a little bit like a sitting duck. But they're allowing an NFL low 10 touchdowns through the season. So it's just hard to get into the end zone against the Rams. I have them at six. Number five. The Lions, again, a positive. pocket quarterback golf can be a sitting duck at times I think the Rams and the Lions have very

very good rosters I think the Lions have better offensive personnel the Rams have better defensive personnel for their five wins have come by double digits they are really special at home they're okay on the road and by the way their schedule is pretty weak going forward for the next month so they'll keep posting Ws number four Green Bay Jordan Love, folks, I don't want to hear that he's ascending. He's a star. Arm, mobility, talent, and their defense allowed the fewest big plays this season. They're just really well-coached and really well-run.

Everywhere. They're still really young. They're still figuring some things out. They still have really clunky halves of offensive football. But we've got to get over that Jordan Love is rising and Jordan Love is ascending. No, not. He's top five, six dude. Jordan loves great, period, end of sentence.

Number three. I don't know what the heck to do with the Colts. Only lost to the Rams, and they outplayed them at SoFi, and they've gotten better since then, maybe by a touchdown. I mean, I think teams now are quitting against them. They are so physically dominant. It's the best offensive line along with Detroit I've seen. They're mashing people.

They're just dominating people. Pitman and Pierce and Warren and Jonathan Taylor, you have to sign Daniel Jones through an extension. I don't know if they're the third best team, but all the numbers tell you they're squashing people. It's like physically, they're just stepping on people. I'll put them at three for now. Number two.

Philadelphia's got more big game experience. AJ Brown didn't play. Shocker. Best performance of the year. I think Philadelphia gets a knot over indie because they've got more guys that have played in big games, and as we get closer to Thanksgiving, that stuff matters. So they're 6 and 0 when Sequin Barclay gets 15 plus touches.

I have a recommendation. Give Sequin Barclay 15 plus touches, Philly at 2. Number one. I don't even think Kansas City played that great last night. I thought it was a B-minus C-plus performance, and they still won by three touchdowns. I said this a few weeks ago. They haven't had this kind of offensive talent.

Rishie Rice, Clear number one. Worthy, clever number two. Juju, perfect three. Travis Kelsey, Gray, excellent tight-end production. O-line still missing people. But again, one of the reasons I have Casey 1 in Philly two. Big game experience. That stuff matters on fourth down. That stuff matters in the red zone. I have Seattle at 11, the Chargers at 12. Again, I don't know what in the world to do with the Colts. I don't see him in the Super Bowl. Let's bring in Nick Wright. What is? What does he make of them done? That's our herd hierarchy.

You know, it's like the data tells me they're as good as Kansas City. I know they're not as good as Kansas City. Yeah, that's why we're not run by AI robots, Colin. That's why while maybe artificial intelligence is going to take over every field, but not this one. Because the data can tell you whatever it wants to tell you. but your eyes of watching the NFL for 40 years is just going to be like, am I really going to say that Daniel Jones is going to stare down Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes in an AFC division, forget title game, divisional round game and win?

And the answer to that question is, no, I'm not. And I'm not doing this. I'm not picking at you here at all. Yeah. It feels a lot like, a lot like to me, the Vikings last year. Yeah. Prolific offense, a better defense in this cult scene. They won 14 games.

But when Bush came to shove, you asked yourself or I asked myself, am I going to trust Sam Darnold through three rounds of the playoffs? And that's in the NFC where there aren't superhero quarterbacks waiting for you at every turn. And I didn't trust them. and I think Donald is better than Daniel Jones. Listen, Jonathan Taylor, if any running back has an MVP case, Jonathan Taylor has one. I actually think right now his MVP case is potentially stronger than Sequin's last season. He's been excellent.

Shane Steichen has shown an ability. Hell, he has a winning record in games Anthony Richardson starts. He's an excellent coach. They have underrated weapons. All that is true. They deserve to be responsible. respected. But I, right now, in the AFC, I think the chiefs are better than them. I believe the bills are better than them. And I think in a playoff game, I would pick the Patriots before I

picked them because I believe superstar young quarterback in year two, year two is not too early. So I give them respect, but I'm not going to pander the way I feel some people feel obligated to be like, well, what more to the cults? need to do. And the answer is nothing. There is nothing the Colts can do this season to make me think they're winning the Super Bowl other than win the Super Bowl. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but that philosophy has never led me astray my life watching the NFL. I want to start with baseball. We'll come back to the NFL. Sure. So you play poker. And I made this argument earlier that when you surround yourself with the best poker players, you probably play a more astute, a more

focused, a higher quality of decision-making when the quality around you is good. This is what the Dodgers do that's amazing. They take guys like Will Klein, who had a 7-ERA with a Tacoma Rainier's this year, who's been released three times. But when you put them around the Dodgers, they're coaching, the moment, the offense, four scoreless innings, one hit against the Blue Jays, is that we all look at the Dodgers' money. Mets have money.

Yankees have money. People have money. it's not just that. What Will Klein does is what they do. They find these guys in every series, and you're like, how is he's like a double-A? I mean, Tommy Edmonds hit 260 for the Cardinals. The Dodgers, he's NLCS MVP. My takeaway is, yes, Otani's unbelievable.

And maybe not, it's not as exciting, but it's beyond money to me when I watch the Dodgers. Or do you just see the stars? No, I think it's both. Listen, it does help that you were able to give Otani three quarters of a bill, and he reaches base 10 times. I mean, that's pretty good. I mean, I guess it was nine times. Pardon me. I mean, and it does help that when you wave the white flag and just say, we just have to walk Otani. It is future first ballot all-time great mooki bets coming to the plate. and a couple guys later, its previous World Series MVP, Freddie Freeman coming to the plate, that all does help.

But what you're describing is a lot like what the Chiefs benefit from, Colin. Tyquan Thornton's a bust. Is he? In Can City, he works. Juju gets cut by three teams. Canc City he works. McCall Hardman gets cut by the Jets in Canc City, he works. And so I do think that once you have,

an established culture and established talent what you are creating an incubator if you will for lesser talented guys to succeed because they are only asked to do one thing or the one thing they do best rather than do more now Klein last night that might have been a little you know kismet luck aberration as well but the overarching point i think is exactly correct so i i was saying this to the staff this morning. Because I think Jordan Love is elite. He didn't have the appeal to middle America

like jeans wearing truck driving Brett Far. He didn't have the coastal allure that the hipster Aaron Rogers had. I think he's a combination of both and I think he's unbelievable, but he went to Utah State. We didn't watch him on Saturdays.

He sat for three years like Aaron, but he's not political. He always says the right thing. He's not middle America. He's not Coast. I watch him and I'm like, oh, this is what Aaron looked like in his prime. Like just when the ball comes

out, his feet aren't on the ground. He's got an absolute whip of an arm. I think, I said this morning, I think he's the most underrated player in the league. He's the only great, I mean, seriously, even like Justin Herbert, everybody acknowledges, I know he doesn't want a playoff game, but he's great.

And Justin doesn't get the love. You can't find anybody that says Jordan Love is great. I don't know what my eyes are telling me. That looks great. All right. So can we come back to the Herbert thing in a moment? Just because I have a Herbert question,

but I won't stay on Jordan Love. First of all, I'll tell you one person who says Jordan Love is great. My first thing's first co-host, Chris Brousard, who picked him to win league MVP before this year. So he saw something that I did not going into the season. and Love, when you look at his stats for the season, it's shocking how good they are and how little press, to your point, he seems to be getting.

I am a 60% of the way believer on Jordan Love. And by that I mean, like, I certainly see the upside. He has not gotten to the place yet where I fully trust him. But I did think that Sunday night was the best regular season game of his career. And I said, so this is what I said going into the season, and I see if you agree with me. I said, I think Jordan Love is the most interesting person in the NFL this year. Because if he is just a B plus or better quarterback this season, the Packers can win the Super Bowl.

And if he is an A quarterback, the Packers should win the Super Bowl. because the roster is great. The defense is excellent, particularly with the addition of Micah. The head coach is very, very good. The D coordinator has been very, very good. Jordan Love is, for many ways, the fulcrum of, if not the NFC, the entire league. Because as long as he does not have one of those, oh, no, what just happened, Jordan Love playoff games that we've seen a couple times, well, have seen a great one.

then I think the Packers should be the favorites in the NFC. I know they have the best record, but I'm saying I think when Jordan, when they get good quarterback play, they don't even need great. When they get good quarterback play, they should be the best team in that conference. For the record, I saw a headline this morning. Caleb Williams is fine, relax. And my take is 30-eas schedule, hired the hottest coach offensively on the market, excellent weapons, spent $100 million on the O line.

Fine's not good enough. Fine is good enough. If you take your family to dinner and it costs $48 and you're like, those tacos were fine. If you're spending $400 on the anniversary dinner, fine's not good enough. Like I looked at the bears and I'm like, I don't want to hear fine. I looked at the numbers last year and this year through seven games.

It's the same guy. Is it possible? This is what he is. he's just fine as a number one pick he's fine he's okay well that would be a disaster if it is then that's a disaster calip williams being just fine is a disaster and i i would have eliminated that as going into last year

i would have said that the only chance calip williams is not at the very least very good is catastrophic injury. Just, you know, the guy gets unlucky from a career-changing injury. I know after 20 games, or I guess closer now at this point to 25, I no longer can say that. I think that while you still see the obvious, oh my God, look at that play he just made in a positive way moments. He is a year and a half in, still shaky at what should be the easiest stuff. And that is, Is it so concerning that I would abandon the Caleb Williams stock? No. Do I believe Ben Johnson took this job over others because of Caleb Williams? Yes. Do I still think long term it's

going to work? Yeah, I think it, but I am not dead set certain the way I once was. And I got to tell you, Colin, if we go from Trevor Lawrence not turning into a star to Caleb Williams, not turning into a star, I might get out of the college quarterback handicapping business. Because I have never seen two guys the moment they first played college football, that I was more certain, that guy is going to be a superstar than those two players. And Trevor has been disappointing. He's honestly been kind of the weak length thus far this season. It breaks my heart to say that about the Jags.

and Caleb's been, as you put it, fine, blah. And if you, it's unfair, but if you remove the Cowboys game, his season numbers are downright bad, that's all concerning. Not as concerning, however, is this, Colin. If I came on this show and I was like, hey, by the way, I just want to let you know, I think you've mentioned poker, I think playing games of chance, playing cards is a sin. and it makes you a bad person. You'd be like, Nick, that is a departure from who you are at your core.

Yes. You just flippantly giving your guy Herbert a pass for the backwards hat. I mean, Colin. I mean, does a man have no principles? Does he have no standards anymore? First of all, shame on me for being a true romantic. I mean, I don't want to get in the way of it. I don't want to get in the way of young love.

I saw it. And it was, you know, it was an off day. It was an off day. He's still representing the franchise. And let me ask you this as well. Speaking of Justin Herbert, your guy, Justin Herbert being a romantic, his social calendar sure has filled up quite a bit as of late.

So I'm at the World Series and at the Laker game. Now, I don't know where his cap was positioned at the World Series. But I do know he better, listen, Chargers fighting for a playoff spot now. And listen, I'm happy for him as well. I just don't know. Is he going to be able to multitask as well as the greatest tight end of all time, Travis Kelsey? I'm not saying he can't.

I'm just saying that plus the backwards cap, a lot of pressure on him now. A lot of pressure on him. I did say it was a little sabbatical from my previous stance, a slight nudge off. But I mean, he's an American hero. the ball's going to hit Amanda. She's a model influencer, and he bats it away. It's like there is not all heroes wear capes somewhere their hat on backwards. Okay, just so you know, I'm not sure who the ball was going to hit.

If it's his girlfriend, you're talking about her name is Madison. I don't want to get him in trouble. Amanda, now all of a sudden you're going to cause controversy. Madison, my goodness gracious, good luck with that, Colin. I'll let you deal with her fans on the internet. I corrected it. You got it wrong. That's a Colin Cowherd problem.

Okay, one more thing. It's not too early. We're three games into the season. I said to J-MAC. I said, okay, Austin Reeves is not a great defender. DeAndre Aten's awful. LeBron at this point is not elite, and Luca barely tribes. So you have duplication at a real weakness. You can't defend in the West.

LeBron is better on ball. Luca needs the ball. Austin Reeves' game is with the ball. These games for Austin Reeves are wonderful. There are teams like Boston, Houston, Miami that need an initiator of offense. That Austin Reeves now is just duplication. Mediocre defender has to have the ball. And you can see when he has the ball.

When LeBron and Luke aren't playing, he's tremendous. He is a prime, prime player to move, go get like a Nazarenes-ish wing, tough, physical defender. Because the Lakers now are bad defensively and have too many. guys that need the ball. Am I nuts? No, you're not nuts. And it's, this is, this is, the real question is, are the Lakers trying to win this season or not? If they are trying to win this, and I'm not, there's a no judgment zone on my end, because until we see how long LeBron actually is out for and what LeBron looks like in year 23, soon to be age 41, I think, it'd be totally fair for the Lakers to be conservative about their chances this season.

But if you want to win this season, Austin Reeves is duplicative because of Luke and LeBron and is your number one asset to be able to go get a defender, which the moment LeBron comes back, the Lakers are going to need the oldest player in the league to be one of their two best wing defenders, because other than Vanderbilt, they got none on the roster. God love Mark is smart, but he's a 12-minute guy at this point in his career. However, if your feeling is, and I think this was LeBron's concern over the summer, if your feeling is, we got Luca resigned, this is a transition year, well, then you probably keep Austin because you don't want Luca to be in a position a year from now

where he's your only initiator, your only ball handler. So that's the question. The question is, how much do you value this season versus flexibility moving forward? I don't know the answer to that. I would think as long as I have Lucidantzic and a guy who finished sixth an MVP voting last year in LeBron, I'd try to go for it. And in that context, Austin, and credit to Austin for becoming this level of player, is redundant for a team that needs a bunch of other things. Yes. A rim protector, athleticism, off-ball player. The Lakers are built weird. For 2025, they're a team that can't really defend and doesn't have great shooting.

As great as Luke is, as good as LeBron can be, that's not a recipe for a deep playoff run. All right. Nick Wright, excellent work. First things first. It's great seeing you, buddy. See you, pal. Yeah, listen, sometimes, you know, I'm not going to apologize. being a romantic. I see Justin Herbert with his friend and it touched me. And so, you know, whatever. Can you watch your language when you say, it touched me? By the way, have you looked her up on Instagram? Madison Beer? She's a beautiful person. She doesn't follow me, but she has 40 million followers. She is a huge deal. I'd never heard of her before like six months ago.

Well, you know, a lot of these influencers are, you know, it's not backcham. It's just channels that we don't, we're not on. Right. Justin Fields used to hang out with Cameron Dicker in the South Bay. Now he's leveled up to a celebrity in a front row at Dodgers and Lakers. Hope it doesn't go to his head. That's your boy, Herbert. Certainly is.

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are so lucky. Obviously, I'm lucky to do what I do and very, very grateful, very, very humbled, but we're so lucky right now. You look at all these Dodger players. They're all like Otani and Betts and Freeman and Yoshi and just the quality of the

human being you get in American sports. And I've said this about the NFL. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Jordan Love. They're such nice kids. And I know I'm saying kids, but I have gray hair. But I'm watching that thing last night.

And, I mean, the pressure on these athletes, that is just crazy. I mean, we all grew up wanting to be like rock stars or athletes. At least I did. Some guys wanted to be firemen. I get that too. But it was like, you know, it was superheroes, rock stars, or athletes. And you're watching what Otani is doing and Freeman. And I am just amazed.

at how good sports is in 2025. I'm amazed with it. I can't even wrap my brain around how good Otani is. I mean, Michael Jordan is six for six. Otani got on base nine times. That would be a good series for an All-Star. In a six-game series, an All-Star-level player said,

Vlad Guerrero, he got on base like nine times in a five, six-game series. You'd be like, whoa, was the MVP of the series? Yeah, that's a lot. unbelievable. I mean, yeah, Summer walks. I said seven years ago,

he's Babe Ruth plus. My bad. He's Babe Ruth plus, plus, plus. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Con, let's start with the Chiefs win on Monday night football.

It was a snoozer. They beat a Washington team playing their backup quarterback. Kansas City feasting on another bottom feeder. Congratulations, guys. Travis Kelsey did have a good game. Six catches for 99 yards. Good. He did have a drop early that led to an interception,

went right off his hands. Mahomes kind of muttered an F-bomb under his breath. You could see through the face mask. Kelsey tied Priest Holmes with his 83rd regular season touchdown. Good for most in franchise history. Here's Patrick Mahomes on Taylor Swift's fiancé. He's just like the true chief's chief. I mean, he is the guy that's been here through the whole thing,

been here with Coach Reed the entire time. and he helps set the culture. You know, he helps set the culture of what it means and to play for Coach Reed and to play in Kansas City, and I was able to come in and have that guy to rely on. And so he's bringing all the records now. I mean, he's all about the team, so I want to make sure he gets that.

Hopefully we can get another football for him later in the season when he actually breaks the record. Say what you want, but Rishi Rice, worthy, Kelsey, Juju, Hollywood Brown. That is a stable of guys that can make plays. Yeah. Just do it against a good team and then I'll be impressed. I mean, we didn't get excited when the bills smashed the Panthers and Andy Dalton, did we?

We didn't go all apoplectic when Daniel Jones carved up the Titans. Like, we don't do that. So I don't know how well we should get all excited for the Chiefs curb stomping a terrible Washington team with a backup quarterback. Like Washington's not a playoff team. No, they're not. Right? They're not. So this Bill's game is everything.

Hey, beat the bills. I'll give you your props. Do you have an early read on Chief's Bill? by the way. Kansas City by 10. Oh, that's a hot take. Wow. I got a few.

By 10? On the, yeah, this game is in Buffalo. Yeah, I saw New England go in and win at Buffalo. Kansas City can't? What is this, the transit of property? Because A plus B, what's going on here? Cowherd, Simmer down now. We may have to go opposite on that one this week.

No, I don't have a pick for that game yet. Next up, oh, yeah, it's the Cowboys. And this is kind of an ugly. story developing with Trayvon Diggs. Remember last year he had that knee injury? Well, now he weirdly suffered some kind of concussion at home. It's unclear what went down, but now he's being placed on the IR. Remember Trayvon Diggs a few years ago? It was like an awesome. I was like, oh, this guy's a stud. It hasn't gone great, but Micah Parsons has now chimed in. Of course, Michael Parsons, a bit of a vendetta against Dallas for how it ended. Micah Parsons saying

digs is coming off a catastrophic knee injury and they just didn't do him right the type of injury he had they forced him out there he had no reps the organization let him down well i don't know the specifics in terms of you know forcing him to practice and play but um i think there's a possibility he won't be around with those two first round picks i think they're going to get an edge in a corner so um well that's assuming your boy jerry he doesn't trade those picks to try to get a player make a move. I know you scoffed at that earlier, but would you put anything past this guy? I mean, he made a terrible deal for Trey Lance. He made a great deal for George Pickens. That was a steel. That's one of the steals of the offseason. That was a great

move getting Pickens. By the way, the Steelers should be ripped for giving him up for nothing. Well, he... I mean, I think he's a better fit with Dak than kind of a, the quarterback situation they had. I think Dak has a way of making players who can be a bit temperamental more mature. Give Dak credit. Like, when you play with Dak, everybody kind of gets in line with Dak. Remember Zeke was a little wild? And then over the course of his career, he settled down.

Dak has a way of, you know, he's like, Dak's like the dad you don't want to disappoint. He's like mature and his speeches and his ability to kind of lower the temperature in the room. Dallas is a lot to deal with. Ownership down. There's a lot of noise. Dak has got that unique ability where he just brings the temperature down

Jalen Hertz has this too there's just a maturity and ability take a deep breath everybody let's bring the noise down and I think that's a credit to Dak and Jalen Hurst yeah I can't wait for Michael Parsons to do a victory lap after the Super Bowl and just shove it in Jerry's face

hey you made a terrible deal I know you disagree anyways final story Colin let's go to the Rams touched on earlier Tyler Shuck will be starting for the Saints that's not great news The Rams have big news. Puka Nakua is back, Colin. McVeigh announced yesterday, Pookas expected to return to practice, and they expect him to play on Sunday against the Saints.

Remember, Puka missed that game. He suffered the ankle injury. I'm pretty sure it was the ankle in London. And so the Rams should be fully formed, rested off a by. I'm sure you guys can't wait for the McVeigh numbers off a by. McVeigh off a buy at home against the New Orleans team. Tyler Shuck to me is not an NFL quarterback. Oh, really?

Saints disagree. They drafted him early. I mean, if this game ended 33 to 3, would you be shocked? No, no. My bank account will be thrilled. If you have Survivor, you've got to hammer the Rams here, right? This is a lock. I mean, nothing's a lock.

Well, who do they play? I mean, off a B. 49ers. So that's the only thing I don't love is that you can see them taking a 24-0 lead at half and shutting the play ball. down and just running it out, winning, you know, 27 to 17 running it. That's what worries me. It's fair.

I mean, because not that the Niners don't know what they do, but I could see McVeigh shutting it down in half and saying, listen, you get one or two of these a year when you don't have to play your defensive guys 60 snaps, and, you know, Jared verse, like 28 snaps, you're done. Well, I don't know about 28. But the final note is I watched that Buck Saints game closely. I told, remember last week I mentioned the Saints Center. McCoy. He's one of the best in the league.

He's out for the season. And I was like, oh, Vita V and Company, they're going to wreck. New Orleans couldn't run the football. They were inept. Spencer Rattler was, so now shook with the backup center, and we know the Rams defensive line is fairly nasty. I just don't see a path to success for the Saints here. I love the

Rams in the spot. Jay Mack with the News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. Derek Jeter stops by the herd last hour after another iconic Dodger game at the Great Dodger Stadium. Plus, is the NFC playoff picture already set? Thoughts next, The Hurt.

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and finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series

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I don't think I could be in the same room with Shamrock the parrot. I'd be too nervous. That's right. The very funny Will Ferrell joins Rory Scovel and me, Josh Dean, for an episode dedicated to the many crimes committed by people also named Will Ferrell. They called to his fellow officer for the nippers. What are the nippers? Very good question.

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It all starts at 10 a.m. Eastern with Big Noon kickoff live from Columbus. Then it's Penn State, Ohio State, Big Noon Saturday, only on Fox. Man, there's a lot of good jobs open. Florida, LSU, Penn State. those are three top 10 jobs. I'm not sure there's three great candidates. Lane Kiffin potentially, but he may want to stay. You know, everybody thinks Americans are more mobile.

I saw reading something about six months ago that most Americans don't want to move. They find a job. They find a community. They want to be social. Their kids get into school. So I'm not sure if, I mean, if you can make blankety blank million dollars a year at Ole Miss and you kind of created, you know, a great program, what's the extra two and a half million going to mean at L.

S.U. I don't know. It's still the SEC. I don't know. Like Kurt Signetti, why go to Penn State? Right now, Indiana would hammer Penn State. It'd be one thing if, like, Indiana knew

going forward, our biggest boosters are not going to give money anymore, or it was a regressing business. But if you're in a business and the business is ascending, like Indiana football, why leave? Ole Miss football, why leave? Now, if it's lifestyle, and nothing against Oxford, Mississippi, but, you know, a school in L.A. called and you're, you know,

you love L.A., that's different. Or if you're, like, Brian Kelly went Midwest to the South, if Brian Kelly got offered the Penn State job, that may be a good fit for him, socially and football-wise. But I want to say this, that, and we've said this a lot, it doesn't take long for great to surface or even very good. If you look at the playoff picture today, we'll start with the NFC. I think this is what it's going to look like. I think we've already determined. Now, I'm not saying the seeding is perfect.

Green Bay of one seed, Philly a two, Tampa Bay of three, Seattle of four, Detroit a five, LAS six, San Francisco, a seven. I think these are the playoff teams. I think those are the teams I picked for the playoffs. I'm not sure if I had San Francisco in. I think I had them close. That feels like, I mean,

the team that's right below that is four and three, and I think Chicago will make it interesting, but I think as long as San Francisco can get somewhat healthy over the next six weeks, I think the NFC playoff picture, that's what it's going to look like. In the AFC, I don't buy Pittsburgh. I think they will lose narrowly to Baltimore. I think Baltimore is going to go on a heater with Lamar Jackson

and win five out of the next six, six of the next seven. But I, Indies won, New England, two, Denver three, Pittsburgh 4, Buffalo 5, Chargers 6, Kansas City 7. This is mostly the teams we picked. I think Baltimore and Houston I'd keep my eyes on. I just don't buy Pittsburgh. I'm not blaming Aaron. I think Sunday night when Green Bay faced the Steelers,

it felt like one franchise gets the current league in the future and the other is really outdated. And the reason I buy the Colts is because if you have a great offensive line, that will endure in December and January. If you have great wide receivers, Miami a few years ago, doesn't mean anything. As the weather gets colder, I look at line play. Now, I do think the Colts could use another pass rusher, but I think they're all lines first or second in the league. And I think that endures. Nick Wright does not believe in the Colts.

Am I really going to say that Daniel Jones is going to stare down Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes in an AFC, forget title game, divisional round game and win? And the answer to that question is, no, I'm not. They deserve to be respected. But I, right now in the AFC, I think the chiefs are better than them. I believe the bills are better than them. And I think in a playoff game, I would pick the Patriots before I picked them. I would not. I would pick the Chiefs to beat the Colts, and right now nobody else. I think Jonathan Taylor would run for 150 yards on the Buffalo Bills. I think Bo Nicks would sit on the sidelines and watch Jonathan Taylor in that offense

dominate time of possession. So I think Kansas City is built to beat them. If you have a great O line, hard. It's a way to keep great quarterbacks on the sidelines. Colts can do that. Hour three, Derek Jeter on the corner. Hey, guys, it's us.

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That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis coming to you, he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms.

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