The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 2 - NFL offseason moves

Episode Date: February 14, 2023

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, here we go. Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Iheart radio, Fox Sports Radio FS1. All right, J-Mack, something brewing. All rattled because of what I just told you. Something brewing.

Should we tease it, do 30 seconds on it? No? No. We will have something. Heard line news, bottom of the hour. Don't even give a hint. Should we just call you the drama king? Because as soon as I said, your face lit up, you love to talk about this guy.

Well, I had mentioned something regarding this player last week. What I heard, something is brewing. And you love on social media when they act a little petulant like a teenager. Oh, yes. Very exciting. I'd say this show, nothing better than breaking news. Oh, it's fun. Nothing better than tire fires.

I love petulant players. Tire fires. I love it. When we got something brewing, you go running around the internet, see if you can find it. We'll have it before halfway through this hour. So, hey, by the way, when you drive by a tire fire, are you one of those stop rubber-necking guys? Or you're just like, I don't care. I'm just moving on.

You know, like, but somebody's getting pulled over by a cop, I feel bad for him. I'm always like, oh, what a bummer. I fly by. Yeah, yeah. I don't care. Sorry about your luck, peasant. I'm out. Okay, so we usually do hurt hierarchy, but we don't do that.

in the non-football season. But I was thinking one of the things that's great about the NFL, like in baseball, which I think it's pitchers, cashers reporting, or something spring training, like we know the Dodgers are going to be good, and the Yankees are going to be good, and the Mets are spending money, and the Astros, and the Braves are always impeccably run. Like, you know who's going to be good, and you know who has no money. In the NBA, you kind of know the Celtics and the Bucks and the Warriors are going to be good this year.

Clippers eventually will if they can stay healthy because they got the dudes. But in football, it's crazy how much. stuff changes due to injuries, coaching moves. So I thought going into next year, we're not going to count anybody drafted, going into next year based on age, momentum, health, head coach, who are the 10 best quarterbacks going into next year? We count your coordinator, we count your head coach, we count your health, your current momentum. Here we go. One through 10. Number one is obvious.

It's Patrick Mahomes. Let's not waste any time. The most passing yards and touchdown passes in a five-season span in league history. No reason to debate it. He was virtually perfect in the second half. Yes, he's got Andy Reed and Travis Kelsey, but this was a bit of a makeshift receiving core. And his only incompletion in the second half was a throwaway out of the end zone.

He was never sacked. That, by the way, was one of his great completions. Patrick Mahomes, an easy number one. Number two, Joe Burrow, I thought he eclipsed a couple of young quarterbacks this year. Highest completion percentage in league history, the only quarterback in the league that I think situationally, big third down, fourth down, can play in Mahomes' sphere. And he's reached the AFC championship in each of his two healthy seasons. Burrow is here for the long term.

He's two. I'm going to move Trevor Lawrence up to three. he gets now Calvin Ridley, a second year in Doug Peterson system, seven and two over his last nine games, with a passer rating at 105. There were arguments, if you just take away that first half in the Chargers playoff win where he was dreadful. He was as good as anybody not named Mahomes or Burrow in the last seven or eight games of the season. I think with Ridley another year in the system, he's number three. I think Kellyn Moore is a huge hire for the Chargers.

Justin Herbert moves up to four. By the way, here's a stat you may pay attention to. Do you know he has the most passing yards and touchdown passes in three years, the first three years in the league? More than Mahomes, more than any player in league history. They just can't get the head coaching perfect yet. The O-line was bad early. I think Kellan Moore is the coordinator that gets the absolute best

out of Justin Herbert. Five, Josh Allen. He regressed. There's too many mistakes. Now, again, he's got a howitzer. He and Mahomes have 35 plus touchdown passes in each of the last three season. So he can go uptown and give you the greatness of Mahomes, but he simply isn't as good situationally.

I don't think he's getting the coaching. He doesn't have the offensive line support, and he pulled back this year. Number six, and now it gets close. I'm going to go Jalen Hertz, because. I think he's a little bigger than you think. He's become a better passer. I thought he was arguably, and this is with Mahomes, the best player in the Super Bowl.

I mean, he was unbelievable with his legs. I think Mahomes is better, obviously, and by a gap. But I think Jalen Hertz, 375 yards. His defense special teams in run game let him down, and he went to the last series against Patrick Mahomes. That's pretty good. Jalen Hertz, 6. This is where it gets real tight.

I'll go Stafford. Now, remember, Stafford, they had 98 games missed due to injury on this roster, most in the league. The team fell apart. They had 13 different offensive lines, most in the league. This guy won a Super Bowl a year ago and out-dued Joe Burrow in it. Stafford's really good. He's very expensive. Their stories, the Rams are getting frustrated.

They'd like to redo his contract, and he was beat up this year. But he's a world-class armed talent, very good in big games, home away, lead, railing, you get the same guy usually. I would put Aaron Rogers 8. He had a bad year by Aaron standards, 91 passer rating, some of its young receivers, but he's not committed in the offseason. I also think Aaron has slowly, slowly, and we saw this pre-Jordan love, I just don't think he's good enough now to not totally commit year round, and he's not.

Their O line was excellent. Aaron Jones, excellent, good enough at tight end. Christian Watson emerged. Aaron needs to be better. You got to commit to the offseason because Burroughs, Herbert, Lawrence, Allen, Jalen Hertz, are. He's at eight.

Number nine, Lamar Jackson. Listen, I'm concerned too, but he wins 75% of his starts. He has the second highest win percentage among all active quarterbacks behind only Patrick Mahomes. He's dynamic. He's a game changer.

He is one of the hardest guys in the league to prepare for. But he hasn't been great in the playoffs. I worry about his health. But to deny he's not a top 10 quarterback, I'm sorry. You can't win 74% of your games in this league in that division. And tell me you're not a top 10 quarterback. And number 10, it's weird, but Jared Goff was outstanding down the stretch.

He was unbelievable. 15 touchdowns and no picks in the last two and a half months. Ben Johnson returns. Listen, you could say, well, he's got a good old line. Yeah, he does. I'm counting that. great O C, great O line, two capable running backs. I thought he had a great year.

Number four in total offense. Better at home than on the road. Better in a clean pocket than a muddy one. But I think, listen, he's a former number one pick for a reason. He's a talented guy. I've always said he's like Matt Ryan with a much better arm. And Matt Ryan would an MVP. Going in the next season, don't have a Russell Wilson used to.

Don't have a Kyler Murray used to. I've pulled back way back on Josh Allen. I'm just getting way too many mistakes. Nick Wright joins us live. Co-host, first things first. Any of those bother you, by the way? That's well done. No, no, listen.

I'm actually doing an impromptu quarterback pyramid on my show today. And you have Trevor Lawrence about as high as I would. I was surprised to see that. I love seeing that. I actually would have Jalen a spot or two higher than you do because I thought what Jalen did in the Super Bowl was remarkable. Yeah. And I think Jalen, I thought, I agree with you about having Joe Burrow firmly in the top three.

Yeah. But Jalen's performance in that Super Bowl was better than any playoff game I've seen Burrow play. And this is where I just have to, as you like to say, you know, with new information, I can adjust my opinions. I was at Jalen Hurd skeptic, but here's the thing that impressed me the most about him, Colin. When you're a guy who in his football career, college and pro, has struggled mightily in the playoffs, in the ball games, in the biggest spots, whether it was his first year in the playoffs last year in the NFL,

getting benched at Alabama, the Peach Bowl when he was at Oklahoma. He'd never played big and well in those games. For him to have that fumble six relatively early in the Super Bowl, shake it off and play, not really make another mistake the rest of the game, I thought was stirring. And really, and so you add to that the fact that he obviously is mature beyond his years. He obviously is a great leader. He's incredibly tough. That to me makes him a top five quarterback in the NFL right now.

The only thing you're missing, Colin, is where's Caleb Williams? Used to your guy, now he's my guy. I mean, I think you've got to throw him somewhere on there, Colin. By the way, that was discussed in the meeting at 10. We discussed that, but it wasn't quite respectful to the current professional players. So I said there was a moment in the Super Bowl, and maybe I was overstating it, but what was my reaction when it happened? I thought considering the circumstance, the stage, and his injury

the 25-yard scramble was a top 5 to 10 Super Bowl play that I can remember. Like a David Tyree. I was on the couch and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. He's outrunning their, he's outrunning like guys that can run.

That to me and the special teams play. The game felt differently to me. I was like, oh, it's Kansas City. How did you take this moment? And his overall performance, it rank for you? Oh, listen, I think that's the best play of his career. Wow.

I actually think that is the singular best play of his career. Because I don't think they win without that moment. I think the fact that as all of the true, all-time legendary players,

when they are compromised, almost seem to keep one extra gear in, you know, in reserve. Similarly to, again, this is, you know, a Nick Wright bingo, but let me bring up LeBron

and talking about Mahomes, but LeBron in game seven against the Warriors, having in reserve enough energy to beat four people up the court and get that block on Iguodala. It's like he knew he had to hold on to something. We now have, Colin,

in back-to-back playoff games, on a high ankle sprain for the Biggest moment of the game, Mahomes finding a gear with his legs when he's been dicing you up with his arms. It's what makes him special. And now the comeback stuff with this guy, the numbers don't seem possible. That's right. So in all of NFL history, Colin, Tom Brady, prior to Patrick Mahomes, was the best quarterback ever when trailing by 10 or more.

He won 39% of his games, the most in NFL history. Mahomes is at 58%, which would mean if every game the chiefs started down to nothing, they'd still make the playoffs as a wild card game. In all of NFL history, Brady, Mahomes now has the second most double-digit playoff comebacks with four. The only guy with more is Brady with six. But Mahomes has his four in 14 playoff games. Brady has his six in 48 playoff games.

And lastly, in all of NFL history, Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes are now both two and one when trailing by double digits in the second half of Super Bowls. Every other quarterback ever is winless. So he is now competing with Tom and only Tom, and it's going to be a competition for the next 15 years, I would imagine. So I said this earlier. if you go eight miles an hour over the speed limit, you probably won't get a ticket unless you were in a school zone. But you have given an officer the right to pull you over.

If you are late to a big meeting at work, you probably won't be demoted, but you've given your boss the option to demote you. If you grab a jersey at the point of the break for the receiver with a minute and a half left in the Super Bowl, you have given the official the right to call it. Now, many won't. Some will.

And that's my takeaway, is that, and this is, James Bradbury, I think, really got this, is that he knew that was holding. You've now given an official the power. Well, and let me take your analogy further, because this officiating talk is really grinding my gears, Colin Cowherd. If you go eight miles over in an area that there have been three wrecks in the last week because people were going eight miles over,

you're going to get pulled over. When the refs have seen the Philadelphia Eagles cooked up for two wide open touchdowns when guys go in, go out, and then the Eagles can't cover it, and they're like, oh, they don't know how to defend this play. All they can do is hold on it. We're going to be watching for it.

When you are holding a guy who one of Mahomes only in completions the entire game came on an earlier third down where you obviously held him and got away with it, they're going to be keeping a closer eye on it. And lastly, for the audacity, the unmitigated gall, as some would say, for Eagles fans in media to say, oh, the game was, you know, rigged for the Chiefs, when we all saw in this game, the Chiefs, force a fumble, recover the fumble, score a touchdown, The refs put their arms up.

We didn't see a replay. We're like, oh, he caught it. I mean, it's close, but it's probably got to rule on the field's got to stand. And they overturned it. If they were rigging it for the Chiefs, you know what probably the better thing to do would be? Just leave the call on the field. Yep. So with all that said, Colin, I will say this to my friends in Philadelphia, of which I probably at this point have zero.

If I were on the other side of it, I understand the frustration. Yeah. And for years, I came on this show and said, said, God, dog it, the Patriots and Brady always get these types of calls, something that hasn't been called all game. And then in the biggest spot, yeah, it's the right call, but why'd you have to call it? And I hated it, Colin. With that said, now that it's going my way, it ain't that bad. I got to tell you, being the new Patriots, you know, AFC championship game and you don't get a third down,

and the refs are like, you know what, we talked it over? Let's just run that thing again. Quick, do-over, right quick. I mean, it's pretty good to be the Chiefs right now. I got to tell you, I don't mind it. So I said finally, I said this about half hour ago, I said, forget what the Warriors are doing now. The NBA does have a history where good teams can flip a switch. The Spurs did for years.

You know, LeBron's calves, you flip a switch, the playoffs. So last year you could argue was the year to get the Warriors. Clay Thompson was at 70%. Jordan Poole was hit and miss. Yeah. Comingo, Wiseman, not ready to play. Yeah. Now, your guy, Draymond, you know, his mom was tweeting about how bad he was playing.

I know he's going to get mad at me, but that happened. Like, and they still won, yep. Now, Poole's more consistent. Dante DiVincenza is a perfect fit. Peyton will be ready for the playoffs. Clay's better. Way better in the back court way deeper. Kaminga now plays.

The West is arguably weaker and weirder. Is that it may have been the year to get them last year because it's wide open. And I said that with the Chiefs. The wide receiving unit, Tony comes in halfway through the season. Sky Moor's a rookie. Juju Smith-Schuster is what he is. O-line, center right guard are excellent but kids. This was the year to get them.

Rookies everywhere. This was the year. This was the year. And it's so it's multi-leveled, right? And the rest of the AFC thought it was the year, which is why the bills go out and pay six years, $120 million. for an aging but still great pass rusher with an injury history. The Raiders trade for Devante Adams and signed Chandler Jones. The Broncos trade everything for Russ.

The Chargers go on a spending spree on Khalil Mack and J.C. Jackson. They're like, okay, the Chiefs are taking a step back. We're going to go forward now. And the Chiefs, on the other hand, this is the craziest stat of the season. The only teams in the NFL to play rookies more snaps than the Chiefs, the Bears who got the number one pick, the Texans who got the number two pick, and the Seahawks who smashed the draft out of the park and had extra picks because they traded Russell Wilson. The Chiefs played rookies the fourth most snaps.

Wow. In the second half of this game, the Chiefs touchdowns were scored by a seventh round rookie, a second round rookie, and a second year player who they acquired at the trade deadline in Cadarius, Tony. And here's the other part, because I heard your rant on this at the beginning of the show, and I totally agree with you. That should absolutely terrify the rest of the league. league. Patrick Mahomes currently, on an average value basis, is the fifth highest paid quarterback. In about three months, Colin, he might be 10th because Herbert, Burrow, Jalen,

and Lamar all are going to get paid and all are going to leapfrog him. So you're going to have Mahomes locked up for seven more years as the 10th or lower highest paid quarterback. You You played eight rookie significant snaps in the Super Bowl. You didn't have a significant contribution from any receiver but juju. All of it. And you still couldn't get them. You still couldn't get the Chiefs this year. Who all year long people were like, oh, you know, they're playing close games against bad teams.

Well, we saw in the Super Bowl and in the AFC championship game that the Chiefs, much like the Patriots used to, would hold things in reserve in the regular season. There was a great play by Pacheco on that last drive that he almost broke for a touchdown, the long run. All year long, in third and short, they've run that formation, and they hand it off to the damn fullback. And it makes me pull my hair out because it's a full back up the middle. What are you doing? But evidently, they were doing it so they could show that look in the Super Bowl and run a counter to the outside and pop it all year long on the Tony touchdown. that's been a jet sweep. And then in the Super Bowl,

it ends up, the receiver comes the other way twice, and they score two touchdowns out of it. So the Chiefs are playing, you know, as some would say, 5D chess, the rest of the league playing Connect 4. And yeah, it's going to be a long winter for the AFC and probably the whole league. Tell you that much.

You're in a good, I saw you celebrate yesterday. We got video of you celebrating. You're very, very happy. The nuance and the subtlety is always appreciated. You don't go overboard. You know, it's just you're very gracious with your winning. And I do always appreciate that. That's, look at this.

Oh, we're running video. Is this where we had the marching band or the balloons or the fireworks or the banners? I'm not sure. Listen, Colin, you don't ever lie. But the truest thing you ever told your audience was, first things first, the only show in America with no budget, my friend. We just, I mean, just every day, something new. We're going to the parade tomorrow. True story.

I know. Doing the show from the parade. Yeah. It's going to be great. Yeah. I'm just trying to get a non-connecting flight from Arizona to L.A. back from the Super Bowl for the staff. So congratulations on all your riches.

I appreciate that. Good luck. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. Talk to you later. Nick Wright, first things first after our show. They will be doing the show I've been told from Kansas City, the parade. They should. That's absolutely where they should be doing it from.

Absolutely. J. Mack, little scoge. A little scoge around the corner. It's something. It's definitely something. You know, like it's something? It's a little more than you leaving Kirk Cousins off the top 10 list. That bothered you?

A little bit. A little bit. Tomorrow, Gough, Cousins, who you take? Cousins. Wow. Wow, we don't agree on that at all. At all? Gough was a number one pick, Cousins with a fourth rounder.

What does that have to do with... Gough throws a much better deep ball. Gough's a much more talented. And golf doesn't shrink in big games. I've seen them go toe to toe with Moller. Holmes on Monday night and beat him. I mean, Cousins, you're talking, I mean, there's a reason. It's prime time.

One guy wins playoff games. Who's that? Who's that? Golf. How many wins since he left McVeigh in the playoffs? Well, I mean, again. Well, right. He doesn't won any.

How many for Kirk Cousins ever, anywhere? He's got a couple, I believe. I'm pretty sure he has a couple. Is that one? He's got one. Congratulations. Congratulations. quickest win for me in an argument ever.

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J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, here we go. Within the last hour, the second best player on the Los Angeles Lakers, Anthony Davis, has deactivated his Instagram account.

Yes, that's a big deal these days. Comes after the Lakers' embarrassing loss to Portland last night on the road. Anthony Davis struggled going up against the immortal tandem of Devin Eubanks and Trendon Watford. AD had 19 points, 20 rebounds. The Lakers lost by a million. And then he deactivated his Instagram account. Matthew Davis on the hook for 40 mil next season,

then has a player option for 43 million. He turns 30 years old next month, Colin, and this is definitely something. It is not nothing. I don't care what Laker fans want to say. There's something going on. We were on this last week for sure, and then maybe months ago,

when you speculated trading AD. Yeah, I said I would have traded him before the season. He'll eventually get hurt. I was told last week that Dallas will be interested because Kyrie and Luca are such poor defenders. They don't, Christian Woods, not the answer. They'll make a move. Mark Cuban will to get Anthony Davis, who's a tremendous shot locker and defender and can be a decent rebounder. So they'll, they're going to make a move. LeBron, listen, LeBron ditch D. Wade, his best friend in the league and didn't give him a heads up. LeBron's not going to be loyal. LeBron's loyal to winning and LeBron.

And I don't have a problem with it. I do not have a problem. LeBron's about winning games. Westbrook, he got rid of him. That was going to, listen, LeBron plays to the public. I'm just an employee. No, he's not. He wanted Westbrook, he got him.

He wanted Westbrook gone, he got him. I don't blame LeBron on this. Anthony Davis, after they won the bubble title, came in out of shape. I would have gotten rid of him that year. And when you're out of shape, you get injured. more. There's a reason Brady got injured less. There's a reason Russell Wilson hasn't gotten injured. You start looking at the guys. LeBron's his career, not a lot of injuries because they keep their body in great shape. Zion's had a weight issue. He's hurt constantly. So this is on AD.

LeBron's over it. You saw the reaction of AD when LeBron said his record. Listen, Laker fans are living in this world where, oh, the media is just making stuff. No, we're not. Absolutely not. There is something. here. This idea of LeBron getting the band back together in L.A. Hey, did you see Kevin loves a free agent after the season? Kyrie Irving with Dallas could do the sign and trade for AD.

Kyrie and LeBron had a really good run in Cleveland. They fit. I mean, they just couldn't take down Kevin Durant in Curry, historically, arguably the greatest team in NBA history. But Kyrie and LeBron's games fit. And by the way, it's not that AD and LeBron don't fit. They have good

chemistry. You cannot depend on him physically. He has just hurt too often. So LeBron missed another game last night. Lakers have lost four or five. This is two duplicitous. But is LeBron sitting out to get healthy and also, hey guys, look at how this team

looks without me. Look at Anthony Davis is the number one. They can't do anything. Anthony was awful against the Warriors in the first half. It was his, maybe his worst half of the year. He's had several games. The night LeBron broke the record. He was terrible. He's going through something.

I think he's been informed. that LeBron, that his future is not here. A little crowded in L.A. And it's not going to be difficult for LeBron to say, hey, we got the title with AD. Two things can be true. Anthony Davis, on his best nights, is awesome.

But you can't rely on him, and he's not as committed as LeBron demands from his team. Is there any way for Anthony Davis to salvage this and stay in L.A.? Oh, yeah. I think if he had a great next three months. Like, listen, I know you're all. freaking out. The Warriors are going to end up in the Western Conference finals. They just are. I know you're all freaking out. They are. You're going to trust Denver? You're going to trust Sacramento?

If the Lakers get into the playoffs, it'll be the play-in, and they would face Denver probably in the first round. I'm not saying they couldn't win that game. Well, now that series. Yeah, I think they could win that series. I think it's very, yeah, I think it's very, you trust Michael Porter, Jamal Murray? I trust Jamal Murray. I trust Joe Kitch against AD. I trust in a playoff series, I would absolutely take LeBron and Anthony Davis. Okay. We might have to do a friendly bet, nothing to do with hair. I don't think it's a five-game series.

It probably goes seven, but I would take LeBron over Yokic in a playoff game. Now, again, the game or series? Well, I'm saying the series would go multiple games, so it would come down to who's, you know, they all come down to a game. Boston last year in the finals, they come, Warriors, and when it goes six, you know, They come down to these singular games that you have to win. The Warriors did the Celtics didn't. So in the end, LeBron over Yokic, still, to this day.

Give me the four best players in that hypothetical series. You want to go LeBron one or Yokic? No, I would say, well, I mean, again, a playoff series. I'd go LeBron won. Yokish is more durable two, Anthony Davis three. AD over Jamal Murray? Yeah. Do you remember Jamal Murray in the bubble?

Oh, God. He was hanging 50 on everybody. How many years ago was that? In the bubble. It's like two years ago, baby? Three years ago. In the bubble, it was a weird year where you can't trust anything. Do not underestimate my guy.

Your guy. When did he become your guy? I've read some stories on him. I love everything about his work ethic. His parents drove him. I like him. I like him. He's a good player.

Oh, he's not taking him over AD. He's not showing out this year, Colin. Something's going on in Lakerland. But let's move to Dallas, where Kyrie and Luca are still looking for their first win together. They are fun to watch them. watch, though. They're fun to watch. Can I say jackass for saying this Dallas team's going to be good?

Colin, last night, they go down about 27 to Minnesota. At home. And then Kyrie goes off in the fourth. They start coming back. And then the final possession was an embarrassment. They couldn't get a shot off. Potato. Luca was like, hey, you take it.

I know. I was like, no, no, no. This is your team. He's like, no, no, you're the new guy. Bad. Didn't get a shot off and lost. Bad. But here's what's interesting.

Before the game, the Dallas media said, Kari, how about a long-term contract? in Dallas. Here's Kyrie Irvin. I would love to just had a respect of you guys and everybody the rest of the season are just continuously asking me that

because it just puts unwarranted distractions on us and our team and I've dealt with it before and it's very emotionally draining to ask questions like what's the long term, what's the long term, what is it? Just taking it one day at a time. That's all I can do in this life and what the future holds is really

only going to be dictated on what I do right now and how I prepare for those next steps. And that's being the best teammate I can in that locker room, being a great leader out here within the Dallas community, within the NBA, and just continue to be myself and develop. So I think you're just putting that to bed and just focus on what we have ahead as a team.

Putting it to bed. Like they're not going to ask him about this for the next three months. What are you going to do? Karee, you're going to stay long term? He learned his lesson. Remember in Boston? I want to be here. Did like commercials in Boston. You could put an end.

into it really quickly. By saying what? I could go out and Kyrie Irving saying, A, I'm not going to accept a new contract, nor discuss it until the season's over. I want to make sure this is good for everybody. I don't want them to commit to me yet. I need to prove

I can make this work based on my body of work the last couple of years. And that would put the story to bed. Yeah, he's on the defensive. He's like the guy I'm not going to talk about it. You meet the in-laws or the potential in-laws and they're like, So what do you guys think? You're going to settle down and start a family?

Why are you pinning me down? I can't answer this. Yeah. Instead, turn the telescope around and say, I do not want a contract. I have not earned one. I don't want to discuss it. I would turn it down. I need to prove to the Maverick community, Mark Cuban and Luca,

I can be a good teammate and be reliable. There's no story. Then they ask you the next time. I say, I told you, I wouldn't even accept it. You can always kill stories. PR teams do this for a living. They just make it sound so inauthentic. You can control the media very easily.

It's not that difficult to control us. Couldn't he go a step further and say, listen, I, given my recent history, I've got to prove that Dallas even wants to commit to be longer. And they just say, if I was offered one now, I'd say, no, I need to make sure this works for everybody. Me, you, Luca. We haven't won a game yet. So when the season's over, the day after it ends, I'll hold a press conference, you can ask me anything you want. I don't deserve a new contract here.

And the story's over. We know he wants to go to the Lakers. Oh, of course we do. And you know, the Lakers are desperate and who's going to offer him the four-year contract that he wants? Only a fool would offer this guy four years. Come on. He's radioactive in the locker room. I'm not disagreeing with that.

If you're Mark Cuban, and he calls you up a, cowherd at Shark Tank Cuban here. What do you think? Should we offer Kyrie 4, 2? No, no. No. No. No. What do we do? Because if you offer him too, he's going to wait to get 4 somewhere else. And that's okay. This whole thing was about showing Luca, you're taking big swings. If Kyrie leaves, you've got a lot of cap space. And then you swing and miss, and Luca looks at you like, oh, going to the next season with Tim Hardaway and...

You say, if you've got some cap space, let's go get a star. Probably shouldn't have let Jalen Brunson go. Yeah, it might have screwed that one up. Finally, let's go back to the NFL. Patrick Mahomes already his... His legacy is incredible. Two Super Bowls, two Super Bowl MVP's, two league MVP's. He has a long way to go to catch Brady, but Rob Grankowski thinks there's a chance

that could happen. He definitely can give Brady a run for his money. I mean, he's young. He has two Super Bowl wins now. He's been two Super Bowl three times over the last six years. But in order to get to that level, I mean, you're going to have to be consistent for the next 15 years. So that's not, you know, it's a debate, but it's not up to us.

It's just all up to, you know, Patrick Mahomes. He just got to keep performing for the next 15 years. Yeah, he's the most talented quarterback ever. He's not the goat yet. He's just the most talented. Now, in one year, if he's won another one, and the discussion's getting a little interesting. So Mahomes' cap hit this year, 35 mil.

Next year, it bumps up to 46 million. They'll probably make some moves. But they had some rookies who really delivered for them. Well, and they're all coming. back. The running backs, the corners. They have to figure out the tackles because Brown and the other guy, I forget his name right now. They're both free agents. Yeah, they're going to

draft. They're going to probably sign one and draft two. So who are they tagging? I think they're probably tagging offensive linemen, right? Well, Creed Humphrey is not due yet. I think he's only in the second or third year. Tune's isn't up. I think maybe maybe you tag one of your tackle. Orlando Brown,

tag him and then go draft another one. They don't really have a whole. Bolton's a great linebacker. The secondary is good. But they don't have a major hole. I do think they need another running back. I mean, it's the 17. They're almost guaranteed to be a 19 to a 20-game team every year because of their playoffs. So 20 games, you've got to have like three running back.

That's what New England did for years. They always had like three guys. They deactivate them one week. You know, I mean, like, this is a 20-game team. They're making the playoffs and winning games. So this is not a 17-game schedule for them. They're playing a 20-game schedule generally minimum. You've got to have depth at running back.

They've got depth of tight end behind Kelsey, some young guys who are good. This is a great roster. The GM deserves a lot of credit. Brett Veach. Taxing him yesterday. Congratulations. Okay. Name dropper.

Yeah, I am. All the time. He's great. I like the no great GMs. J. Mack with the News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Line News.

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Two stories today. According to Ian Rappaport, the Packers are now open to working with Aaron to facilitate a trade. So they're willing to work with Aaron and move him. That's what's reported here. One recent report claim the Packers would prefer he moved to the Raiders. And another report claims the Packers would prefer to move on from Rogers. So Green Bay is ready to move and work with Aaron.

I'm just telling you what's here. The second thing is, according to an NFL exec, people do not like the retreat talking and I'll get back to the Packers. It is irking people within the league. Whatever. I think bigger picture, I think one of the things that jumps out to me is that the Niners with Brock Purdy at quarterback made the NFC championship, Green Bay with Aaron didn't make the playoffs,

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Has Aaron become the A-list actor that just can't get people into the theater anymore? So the last four years, here's the thing with Aaron. In the last four years, you got two playoff wins and a season where you didn't make the playoffs. Aaron Jones, elite running back. David Bacdiari, elite left tackle. Tight ends, good enough. Wide receivers, Devonte Adams. You weren't winning playoff games with him either.

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that limits the ability to go on to the market and get people. They'll be better next year. I don't think they're a Super Bowl team. Not with that cap hit. His off-seasons are a little disconnected. I think that's a reasonable word to use. So Tom Cruise is a little out there, but Top Gun made $1.5 billion. What am I getting for the darkness retreat?

The lack of communication, the lack of commitment, the aloof, prickly attitude wearing people out. What's the payback? Brock Purdy, Gino Smith, beaten by Zach Wilson, Taylor Heineke. Like, I got a, I'll deal with Star, I got no problem with Star Treatment. I got no problem giving great athletes, whatever they want. You got to get people to the box office. Tom Cruise gets whatever he wants.

I would sign him tomorrow to a 10-year deal if I was a, guy running Paramount or Sony or whatever studio. Disney, I'd sign him. You got to give me more than outplayed by Jared Goff, fourth quarter Lambo last game of the year. I'll deal with the offseason stuff. You got to give me something with it. You can't get beat by Zach Wilson. Can't get beat by Taylor Heineke.

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