The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - NFL Playoff Predictions, Joel Klatt Discusses Controversial College Football Playoff Rankings

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Colin unveils his NFL Playoff predictions, projecting the full postseason picture if the playoffs started today, including his early Super Bowl matchup: Can the Eagles win it all 2 years in a row? Plu...s, Fox Sports College Football analyst Joel Klatt joins the show to deliver can’t-miss insights on the College Football Playoff race—including why Texas is officially out, and how Ohio State’s defense could be one of the most dominant units in college football history.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:21 I came in this morning, and in the current playoff picture, the Detroit Lions, the Ravens, and the Chiefs are not in. So this is what I'm about to do is hypothetical. But if the Colts don't want, If the Colts beat the Chiefs this weekend, I don't think Kansas is making the playoffs. And Detroit right now is in a fight because right now this morning, they got their head coach taking over play calling duties. And I don't love where Detroit's at, although I love their roster.
Starting point is 00:03:51 So I said it's most of the teams that are in the playoffs, I think are going to stick. I think we're pretty close. So let's take the teams, if the playoffs started today, this would be. the playoff matchups. Denver gets a buy as a number one seat. I think that will be the case. I would take in the wild card round Buffalo to beat Pittsburgh, even though it's at Pittsburgh, because they won their division. Pittsburgh's lost six straight playoff games, and in five of six, they've been gashed. And if you have a good run game, you can give Buffalo trouble here. But I get a major, major quarterback advantage, major offense advantage, and Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:04:33 can't run the ball and they have not ended seasons well since about 2016 Buffalo. I would take the Colts at home over the Chargers, a dependable run game, and O-line. Again, maybe if it's on the road, it's different, but folks, the better roster right now due to injuries is the Colts. And I, I've said this in the playoffs, in baseball, I'll say it in the NFL playoffs. Good O-lines, endure, and last and keep the ball away from star coaches and star quarterbacks, take the Colts. And then I would take the Patriots at home to beat the Jags in the wild card round. You trust Jacksonville and cold weather? Really, you trust Trevor Lawrence, cold weather up north.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I don't. So I would have Denver by Buffalo Colts Patriots Advances. Now we go to the divisional round. I would take Denver over Buffalo. Denver at home, off a by, Sean Payton, offensive coach off a buy. First of all, the bills can't stop the run between Bo Nix's legs and the run game, I think it'd be death by a thousand cuts. Colts Patriots, Daniel Jones regression, cold weather, I'm going to take New England.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I don't trust Daniel Jones in this spot. I think New England pressure is the quarterback. I've watched Daniel Jones with a little pressure. I know what I get. Now Patriots Broncos, I'm taking Denver. More playmakers on both side of the ball. More elite players in their prime. If you look at recent history,
Starting point is 00:06:17 offensive coach against defensive coach in divisional round and conference championships has favored the offensive coach. Denver to the Super Bowl as of today. Now, Baltimore and Kansas City today are not in the AFC playouts. Maybe that changes things. But the matchups, that's where I would go. NFC, let's go wildcard.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Seattle, Tampa, with the Eagles getting the buy. I take Seattle. Why? Better overall roster. If you look at Baker Mayfield when facing pressure this year, and Seattle applies a lot of pressure. Baker facing pressure, 46-passer rating. Seattle is also, bizarrely, the best road team in the NFL the last two years.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Green Bay, Chicago is a coin flip. If it's at Chicago, I'd take Chicago. I would. I'd take Caleb Williams making a play. Chicago in bad weather, and that'll be bad weather, is a consistently better run team. Chicago runs the ball a lot and runs it well. Green Bay runs it a lot and doesn't run it well. I would take the Bears in an ugly, windy, cold, low-scoring game.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Niners at the Rams. McVeigh's had Shanahan's number recently. I think it's a Rams have a better overall roster. I trust their health. I trust their offensive and defensive consistency. No question the Rams are the much better defense than the Niners this year, and that's not particularly close. Now we go to the NFC divisional round.
Starting point is 00:07:49 I would take the Eagles off a by beating Seattle. Why? Philly in the playoffs, creates turnovers. Seattle leads the NFL and giveaways. Sam in this spot, cold, windy, on the road, what Philadelphia does well defensively, Seattle can struggle with offensively, take Philly. Bears Rams, again, if you go look at the Rams under McVeigh home playoff games, they win and they win convincingly. I think the more well-rounded team, the veteran quarterback, the veteran coach, take the Rams to win convincingly. Rams Philly, game of the year.
Starting point is 00:08:24 in the playoffs, I would take the Rams. Listen, right now the Rams defense, everybody is good. The Rams offense, more consistent. The Rams run the ball better. They throw it better. I get McVeigh-Stafford over Hertz Sariani in a big spot. As long as it's not blowing sideways, even if it is. Rams running game is better.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I'll take the Rams. We get to the Super Bowl. Rams over Denver. Again, I get the veteran quarterback. two great defenses. The Rams are the least penalized team in the league. The Broncos are the most penalized team in the league. In close games, that stuff matters.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Stafford McVeigh win their second Super Bowl together. As of now, Baltimore Chiefs could make the playoffs. I would take Denver. J. Max beside himself. He didn't know what to do with that. I'm flammagaster. the Denver Broncos in the Super Bowl? What?
Starting point is 00:09:29 How do you not have the bills winning in the first round? There's too much there to chew on. I know we got a guest. Let's revisit later in the show. Okay, okay. And Joel Clat now joining us live, the college football playoff. Miami is all upset. Boy, Miami is all upset.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And I said there are nine fans in America are furious. I think head-to-head matters less than it used to. It still matters. absolutely, but it doesn't matter like it did you. It's like the NFL. The Raiders beat the Patriots in week one. Nobody cares. As college football has created a playoff and has extended their season, more games,
Starting point is 00:10:06 it just doesn't have the impact. And right now, those two ugly losses for Miami, I would put Notre Dame narrowly ahead of Miami, would you? So I think it matters if you're comparing them directly. And right now they're not being compared directly. And I think that's where it's at. And I do think that the playoff committee, has maybe artificially, but they have created a buffer between Miami and Notre Dame so that they're
Starting point is 00:10:30 not compared. And you could maybe say that's intentionally, I'm not sure. But for instance, the resume for Alabama is much better than Notre Dame. So it doesn't really make sense for them to fall behind Notre Dame unless you're going to go just based on eye test. And remember, there are coaches on this committee. Mark Dantonio, the former Michigan State coach, he's obviously going to favor a run-oriented team that's consistent. Well, that's Notre Dame versus. This is Alabama. Mike Riley is on the staff, which can't run the football. So I think that the eye test has won out in a lot of these arguments for this version of the committee. And right now, there's a buffer. You've got Utah and BYU sitting in there. You've got Alabama. So you don't have to
Starting point is 00:11:10 directly compare Notre Dame and Miami. Now, if they, for whatever reason, get closer to one another and it becomes a discussion about Miami or Notre Dame for inclusion into the playoff, then you have to go head to head. This is where I would disagree with you. If it comes down to those two, you have to honor the on-field result. But until they're compared directly, at this point, the committee is not really taking that into consideration. So Georgia beats Texas again with physicality. All three games have looked the same to me. I didn't think Arch played bad. I didn't think he was the story. What are we to make? I've said this, USC and Texas, even when they're good or kind of pretty. Georgia's never been pretty. I think Georgia's just an awful
Starting point is 00:11:54 matchup for Texas. I actually think, I actually think, and I was wrong on this, I think Oklahoma is actually built like an SEC team. They, they wrote, good quarterback. Well, they proved that at Bama, you know, they went in there and played great defense. That's right. And I, what do we think of the Texas Longhorns today? What do we think of them? I, I think they're out. You know, there was this conversation like, well, maybe at nine and three, Texas, because one of those losses is at Ohio State. Maybe they could back their way into the playoff. No, no, no, no. I'm done with that. Not after the way that they lost to Georgia, not
Starting point is 00:12:28 after their, even, by the way, a couple of their close wins are awful. I mean, Mississippi State and Kentucky are not good football teams. They had to take overtime to do that. In fact, they remind me a lot of last year's Bama team that was left out of the playoffs. Remember, last year's Bama team was
Starting point is 00:12:44 9 and 3. Last year's Bama team had a win over Georgia. This year, you know, Texas has a big win over Oklahoma. So you've got two big wins. They each had really difficult road losses this year, Texas at Ohio State. Last year, Bama at Tennessee. And then they each had bad, brutal late season beats on the road. Last year's Bama team got drilled by Oklahoma late. And Texas this year got drilled by Georgia late. To me, it's not a resume that you can get back into the playoffs. So to me, Texas is done. And any
Starting point is 00:13:15 conversation that suggests otherwise is nefarious in my estimation. If you look at their resume, if you watch them on tape, neither of those things can put Texas into that college football playoff. And Georgia, by the way, I just think Georgia is the best SEC team that we're seeing right now. Whether they get to the SEC championship game or not, Colin, that's the best team of the SEC because you've got to play against great players who believe in their coach, and their coach believes in them. Think about that sequence where they go forward on fourth down, fourth and one from their own 35-yard line, up 14-10, and all of a sudden, Arch goes from throwing a touchdown pass with five and a half minutes left.
Starting point is 00:13:53 He doesn't see the ball again until eight minutes to go on the fourth quarter down 2810. What a sequence in there with the onside kick, the fourth downs. Kirby was amazing. What if Texas hammers Texas A&M? I don't care. Like, and one. Hemmers 31 to 7. Do you really think there, I mean.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I don't think, I don't buy Texas A&M. So I watch the entire game last week. I don't care. You can't get down 30 to three at home to South Carolina. I think Texas is going to beat Texas NM soundly. And then they're going to say, well, okay, we lost to Georgia. Well, they're the best team, and we narrowly lost. They also needed a punt return and overtime to beat Mississippi State.
Starting point is 00:14:32 They also needed overtime to beat Kentucky. You know, like, I don't, I don't see it. I don't see it with Texas. Now, if you were going to set a precedent for a nine and three team to make the playoffs, let's make them good. You know, this Texas team hasn't even played well for 60 minutes, not one time, this entire season. So that would, I mean, I would call into question
Starting point is 00:14:52 that they're all of a sudden going to drill Texas A&M. I mean, A&M, yes, you ride the roller coaster, you got the terrible first half, but they had a great second half. And I think, I just don't think that at 9 and 3, Texas has any business sniffing around this playoff.
Starting point is 00:15:07 No, I just say if they blow out at A&M, there'll be 3 and 2 against top 10 teams. Yeah, but you could have an 11 and 2, BYU. You could have a 10-2, Utah. You could have a 10-2 USC. I mean, there are a lot of teams that you can have a 10 and 3 Alabama. You know, what do you do with the 10 and 3 Alabama
Starting point is 00:15:22 that goes to the SEC championship game maybe and loses? I mean, what do you do with them? They would be over Texas. So I think Texas has too much to overcome. All right. The USC Oregon. Now, I don't think, I don't know if they can block Oregon. I do not know if USC can block Oregon's two
Starting point is 00:15:40 first round defensive linemen up front. I'm not as concerned with if they can block them, whether they can tackle them. I think Oregon's going to win by about 10 to 13. 13 points. Do you? I think it's a bad matchup for USC and I said the same thing about about the Iowa game last, last week. And Iowa did cover, but USC showed me a lot when in that game in those conditions the way that they did. Being down 217 and coming back and winning that football game, that was really, really, really good. And in particular, their defense holding Iowa to nothing really, 100 yards and no points in the second half. That was huge. But, but Oregon's a different animal. And that location where they're playing, different animal. We know that USC struggles. a little bit on the road, even though they've gotten some road victories here this season. If I told you that Oregon was the second best rushing team in the country, yards per carry, you'd be like, oh, I didn't realize that.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Well, they are. They're ahead of teams like Notre Dame. Notre Dame shredded this USC defense running the football. And Oregon will line up with a stable of backs. They've got three or four different backs that they can hand the football to, and they will run the rock with physicality. They did it against Iowa. They've been doing it against everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So the fact that they're binged up at the wide receiver position and the skill positions with who is it Gary Bryant has been out, Decorian Moore has been out, that doesn't bother me as much because they can lean on the run game specifically against this USC team. By the way, they couple that with the number one pass defense in America. So again, it's like the matchup does not favor USC. If they win this, they will be firmly in the playoff in my estimation because it's not a matchup that favors them and it's a tough location to play. You know, it really comes down to USC. And have they, had they beaten Illinois, which, by the way, they scored the go-ahead touchdown. I was there with a minute to go. And I remember I got a text from a friend. He goes, boy, they pulled it out. And I said, no, no, Illinois's got a great kicker.
Starting point is 00:17:33 USC's not stopping them. Their defense has been on the field. Well, they scored too fast. I said it on the broadcast. Yeah. They scored with too much time left. And that defense in the second half, Illinois was doing whatever they wanted to. They scored too fast.
Starting point is 00:17:45 they won that game, you could lose close to Oregon, you'll lose to Notre Dame, you can get into the playoff, but I don't think they match up well. So let me throw this out. Is that I read these stories, I don't know if I believe them, there's an ultimatum. Ole Miss has given Lane Kiff and an ultimatum. Now, my take is...
Starting point is 00:18:04 Couldn't it be somewhere in the middle, right? I mean, couldn't they be like, hey, we need an answer, but it's not a full ultimatum? So you can say like, no, that's totally false. There's no ultimatum. But behind the scenes, they're probably like, hey, like, we need an answer. So I think he should stay at Ole Miss or GoPro.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I don't want him bounce into LSU or Florida. Either stay at Ole Miss. They've got NIL money. I made a call on that two days ago. They've got NIL money. That's not an issue. He'll be, I think the SEC jobs outside of maybe Georgia are all kind of the same. They're all dysfunctional, a bit delusional.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Georgia, between Georgia high school football and Florida and just the revenue. Georgia, to me, is a top five job in the country. Maybe Bama, but Bama doesn't have Georgia's high school football talent within 100 feet of the campus. So to me, if you have an SEC job and you're winning, stay in that job. Or do you disagree? I don't disagree.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And my take is not necessarily on the level or quality of the job. I would just say, if he was going to stay at Ole Miss, I think he would have already done it. And I know I've bounced around on this. I have been kind of all over the map. And part of that is because Lane is all over the map. Yeah. And, you know, like, like it or not, Lane loves this.
Starting point is 00:19:29 He loves to be the center of attention on social media in the college football world. He loves this. I mean, two weeks ago, he ran out under the middle of the field so that he could photo bomb a couple that was getting engaged on the field at Ole Miss. He loves being the center of attention, and he is right now. And Colin, but here's the thing. If he wanted to stay, he would stay, and we would have already known it. Look at all the other coaches around the country that have said they're staying or signed extensions.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And Ole Miss, I know, has told him money is not a factor here. Whatever you get offered, we will match it. So it's not that he's going to make more somewhere else, which is starting to lead me to believe. And again, I will fully own, I have been all over the matter. on this and Lane. But Lane is a unique cat. Now I don't know if he can come back to Ole Miss. You can't lead him on for this long.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And now there's going to start to be animus. Like, why aren't you signing an extension? What's the problem? And I think he's going to Florida. I really do. I think he's going to Florida and I think he's going to be the next coach of the Gators. And I think that we're going to have one of the biggest messes in college football history go down before the playoff.
Starting point is 00:20:43 when Lane Kiffin steps away from a college football playoff team and goes to coach another team. You know what he should say right before the Egg Bowl, that's where they want the answer and say, well, I'm going to make you fire. I'm not going to give you an answer, fire me. And Ole Miss will back off and they can't. Just say fire me. If you're going to fire me or hire another coach and see how it plays to your booster group. That would be the leverage he could play because he's certainly in the driver's seat here.
Starting point is 00:21:06 But my point being, regardless of what they're trying to do in this quote-unquote ultimatum, if he wanted to be there, Colin, he would have already been there. He would have already signed. That's where I'm starting to sit here and I think he's going to Florida. Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with taking phone calls, unless you're married. Other than that, take phone calls. Not with marriage.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Everything else, take phone calls. Every job opportunity. Good caveat. That was a nice, that was a really nice save there. That was a great caveat. Okay, Ohio State host Rutgers. All the years you've been covering college football, those Alabama defenses were unbelievable with Nick. But he didn't have the NIL or transfer portal.
Starting point is 00:21:54 If he had a weakness, he had a weakness. Now you can just go solve it. Not only can you solve it, you can go get the best player in the country and put him in the spot you need at corner, like Caleb Downs or safety. So the transfer portal is, it's free agency. And so it's not just, you know, even Nick Saban would be like we're probably one pass rusher away. Well, you go to a junior college, but you can't really solve it. Now you can go by the best player in the country at that position. Does this Ohio State defense, does it rank with the Sabin defenses or the best you've ever seen in college?
Starting point is 00:22:27 Oh, yeah. They've given up eight total touchdowns in 10 games. They're giving up seven and a half points per game. I mean, yeah, absolutely. This is one of the best defenses I've ever seen and ever covered. they're good on every single level. I think their schematics are as good as I've ever seen in college. And here's the thing. They're running the New England Patriots defense.
Starting point is 00:22:47 The Patriot defense that gave professional play callers and quarterbacks and NFL guys' problems for years, they're running that. And the reason that they can is that their players are so intelligent. Caleb Downs is one of the most intelligent players that I've ever been around covering this sport. Sunny Stiles is the same way. Arvel Reese has stepped in, and by the way, I think Arvel Reese is playing himself into a top three pick in college in the NFL draft, because people are going to start to view Arvel Reese like Micah Parsons or an Abdul Carter, a guy that can play off the ball, but also on the ball and present and create pressure.
Starting point is 00:23:26 So Reese's stock is through the roof. So they've got a top three pick in the NFL draft sitting on their defense, and he might not even be the best player on their defense because Downs is still behind him, who's probably a top tick, top top 10, excuse me, picking the NFL draft. So, yeah, this is as good as it gets. And it's the marriage between Matt Patricia and what he's doing schematically, the players, their intellect, their physicality, their ability to run, their length,
Starting point is 00:23:50 all of it. This is the best defense that I've seen. And there's been some good ones. Yeah, Nick had some good ones at Bama. There were some really good ones at Georgia. This one is right up there with those. Hey, by the way, talking yesterday, the day before, actually, Well, it was.
Starting point is 00:24:07 In the last 72 hours, I have talked to an NFL head coach. Okay. And this NFL coach text me and said, Mendoza at Indiana, he said he's one of the easier quarterbacks to evaluate that he remembers in college. He goes, because Indiana uses some NFL stuff. Yep. He says, Indiana does a really good job Kurt Signetti to run some pro-stitch. Sunday stuff. He said, Mendoza,
Starting point is 00:24:38 you know, he goes, the biggest problem he texted me is a lot of times these college programs are doing stuff for years and years. Even with Mahomes, you're like, well, it doesn't look close to the NFL. Didn't translate schematically. Yeah, well, what is that big 12 stuff NFL? This coach said
Starting point is 00:24:52 really easy comp. He's one of the easier evals, arm size NFL. You look at their offense, you'll be able to watch him, watch the film and figure out, okay, that's what we would do on Sunday. He's either good at it or average at it, just throw that out there. That he's going to be, he's the top. He's also got the experience, which I love. You know that. You know, I always talk about reps and number of
Starting point is 00:25:16 starts. This is what hurts a guy like Ty Simpson, who hasn't started a huge number of games in college football. Yeah, that, listen, Mendoza is going to be easily a top three pick, maybe the top pick in the entire NFL draft. And here's the thing. We haven't even gotten to the interview process. I think that's going to be his best trait is his interview process. When I sit with him, him. It's like I'm sitting across the table from Kirk Cousins. And I mean that in a compliment way. He understands what he's about. He knows who he is. He knows the offense. He's comfortable in his own skin. He's a football nerd in the best ways possible. And so Mendoza is going to be evaluated just based on the film as possibly a number one pick. Then when he walks into the room and they meet him,
Starting point is 00:25:58 they're going to be like, yep, he's a face of the franchise type of guy. At this point, with the size of Ty Simpson and the fact that he hasn't played a ton of football, and I would suggest to him that he go back. Dante Moore, go back, play more football in the college game. I think Mendoza is on the trajectory to be the number one pick in the draft. For the record, when you played minor league baseball, what position did you play? I was a third baseman and played a little first base as well. Reportedly you were Mike Schmidt without any power or range.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah, that's right. You know, what I lacked in power I made up for, in a lack of speed. Oh, you've got the swings. Oh, no. Look at this. Oh, well, you have warning track power. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Here's another one. Oh. I was bitterly disappointed. I couldn't get one of those out. Literally disappointed. Who was pitching? It was a machine, and it just wasn't, like, fast enough. Just trying to generate that pop.
Starting point is 00:26:55 That was, like, center feel... Gross. Gosh, dang it. You look like a pitcher trying to hit, kind of. Now, that's... Now, that's... Now hold on a second. I'd say my ribs were sore the next day, Colin.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I was swinging hard, man. You know what? I actually got him impressed. Look at that. I appreciate that. How old are you right now? I'm 43 now. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:22 All right. Almost. That's not bad. It's a good looking swing. Almost. Almost. All right, buddy. Great seeing you.
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Starting point is 00:29:19 So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
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Starting point is 00:29:58 We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Giamanka seemed like a mild mass. Bernard Suburban Dad, but secretly he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like?
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Starting point is 00:32:40 Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian, and recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast,
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Starting point is 00:33:20 This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. By the way, I love that video of Clad Ed Wrigley. If you and I had a contest who could hit one further, who do you think wins that? Well, I'm 60. I would hope you could.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I'm not good at baseball, the one sport I can't do. All right, let's go to the NFL and Dan Campbell, Colin. Remember the big story? Hey, Dan Campbell's taken over play calling, and they destroyed Washington. Well, Dan Campbell called plays against the Eagles, and it was a disaster. O for five on fourth downs. The offense couldn't do anything. Amun Rae St. Brown had two catches on, I believe, 11 targets.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Jared Goff somehow took the blame. I don't think anything feels off except for this past week. I thought I was off trying to get him a ball. He's playing well, man. I've got to find ways to get it to him in space and be a bit more accurate in some of those instances. I have been in my career, so not something I'm worried about. But last week was a little bit off. And prior to that, I don't think there's been any issue.
Starting point is 00:34:35 So ask yourself, why are the lions not as good offensively this year. What would that be? So, obviously the answer is Ben Johnson, but all these Lions fans got geeked after that Washington game, remember? They're like, oh, the offense is fixed. We just needed Dan calling things. Everybody scores on Washington. Come on. Okay?
Starting point is 00:34:53 The Eagles game was a wake-up call. This week, I don't know. I mean, what are we to make of when they put 48 on the Giants? Are we, Dan Campbell, a genius again? Because you know they're going to score it at will against the Giants. This is one of the things I said, when you have an open, when you lose a
Starting point is 00:35:09 great coordinator. Be very careful about hiring within the building. I said this about Michigan football. Be very careful when you lose an iconic legend that wins a Natty giving your favorite assistant the job. Is that the best guy for the jobs? What the players like, that's why interim coaches get jobs. They rarely work. And so you had Ben Johnson, who for two years was the most talked about coordinator in football on either side leaves. And they're like, well, a guy in the building sort of knows what's going on. Okay, be careful. Just, just, this was my fear.
Starting point is 00:35:42 They're not as good offensively. Go look at their losses and what they've scored. Like, they're just a mediocre offense about every third week. Well, I think there's a couple truisms in the NFL, right? Jared Goff, cold weather, outdoors. Not as good. Against a push up the middle. He's not good.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Cleveland Brown's defense at home, he lead, right? There's just a few things that you know in the NFL are true. You know what? Another one? Dan Campbell, awful loss, going home against a, bad team. I'm telling you, they're going to destroy the Giants and Lions fans are going to get all wacky. But again, I want to know what Goff is going to do against the elite teams. And that game on Thanksgiving is, Thanksgiving has an unbelievable slate, by the way. You cannot be eating
Starting point is 00:36:21 too much turkey and falling asleep early, Colin. The slate is absolute fire next Thursday, including the Lions. All right, let's move to George Pickens and the Dallas Cowboys. Listen, Pickens had another good game. Again, it depends who you cook. It was the Raiders. Come on. Anyways, Pickens is very excited and cooking, and guess what, his head coach is singing his praises. Sign me up. I mean, what do you say? Those two guys, I just, I love their relationship, man. I love the firepower that they give us.
Starting point is 00:36:53 You know, I mean, that's, you know, one of those games where, you know, you never know which one is going to be. Some games is both of them. Some games is one of them. And, again, like I said, I just. you know, I pinch myself at times. I'm very in favor of Georgia having a long-term future with us here in Dallas. Well, their O-line is young and inexpensive. Their defense, they're going to use two first-round picks to shore up the defense.
Starting point is 00:37:23 That now without signing Micah is pretty inexpensive. You're paying DAC and CD-LAM a lot. Can you pay Pickens? Pretty decent money. Well, one of the problems, is the defensive tackles, they traded for Quinnon. So you got, I'll butcher his name, but Ossa O, just signed a deal worth $80 million.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Quinnon Williams is making huge money, and Kenny Clark. They have next year committed $60 million to defensive tackle, Cullen, which is goofy. And now you're going to pay essentially the T. Higgins and Jamar Chase. The O line is cheap. It's cheap. It's young and it's inexpensive. It was okay this year.
Starting point is 00:38:04 There's some injuries. So my take is the first two picks are going to be defense. They're going to get a corner and an edge rush. So that will mitigate a lot of what you're paying Quinn and Williams. And for the record, every good GM in the league is willing to pay an all pro-interior lineman, Quinn and Williams money. That is not money. It's not a safety or a – so my take is if you hit two first rounders on defense,
Starting point is 00:38:30 you're paying DAC CD, Quinn and Williams, Big Boy Money. I could pay George Pickens in that T. Higgins range? Well, they're probably going to tag him, right? That seems like everybody in Dallas seems to think, oh, you just tag him. Well, you know what? Pickens is a fickle individual, okay? He's going to be like, I need to be paid like a top five guy. And Jerry's going to say we're going to tag you.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'll say this about Jerry, and you just articulated it. He's trying to do things differently, right? He's going a little cheap on the offensive line, cheap and inexperience, and we're going to pay receivers, defensive tackles, and hope we hit on draft picks. It's different? Will it work? Time will tell. They're not going to be better in the Eagles next year, right? Let's just be clear about that.
Starting point is 00:39:13 They're not going to want? They're not going to be better than the Eagles in the division next year. They're going to be looking up at Philly. I would just, I think Dallas is closer than you think. Oh. I think their second round pick, now healthy. This past game against the Raiders, all their young guys played. I like Overshone, but it's the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Come on. They're a joke. they, you, it's, it's going to be very hard to run on Dallas going forward. That Eagles game this week is a big one. And I think you put it in your picks. Yeah. I like the hook. I'll take Dallas plus three and a half at home.
Starting point is 00:39:46 You take a nibble on the money line, maybe? Yes. Oh, I like it. Final story, Con, let's go back to LeBron James and the Lakers. Listen, I know you're going to bang on the usage rate. That can't keep up like that. He only had 11 points, but he had 12 dimes. that alley-oop to Dianne Eton?
Starting point is 00:40:05 I mean, that's just, that's just timing. Anyway, here we go. DeAndre Aiton loves playing with LeBron. I was just telling him a fun fact. You know, he threw me an alley-up. I said, that's my second alley-up from you. The first one was when I was in eighth grade at your camp. No, I think, I think J.J. Reddick has created a very smart, spacing.
Starting point is 00:40:29 It's a really good, easy to watch, a lot of different guys who can create space, hit jumpers. They are a little bit redundant. That will come into play as, I mean, if you watch that game last night, no physicality either side, Utah's the worst defense in the league. Lakers are a bottom, I mean, it was wide open jumpers, easy layups had, Lakers had 16 layoffs. But that's, that was, it was, it felt like an intense scrimmage is what it felt like last. That being said, first of all, Jake Luravy has been a revelation.
Starting point is 00:41:03 He's been really good. I love that guy. Hey, D'Andre Aiton, are you ready for this, Colin? He's shooting 69% from the field, all two-pointers. I mean, he's having, you could argue, the best season of his career. D'Andre Aton, Portland couldn't get rid of him fast enough. Phoenix was like, we'll pay him. Oh, my gosh, what the hell do we do?
Starting point is 00:41:22 J.J. Reddick, I know I'm gassing up the Lakers too much, but there's a lot to love about what Reddick has done, and they only are now incorporating LeBron. What's the ceiling for you with this Lakers team? And finals, Western Conference finals. Oh, no, no, no, they don't. Listen, we know this about the NDA. Nobody plays a lick of defense until you get to the trade deadline in the second half.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And the officials, you know, they can call it tight. They want their stars healthy. The NBA opposite of the WNBA, which lets you mall players in the regular season, so everybody's banged up for the playoffs. The NBA is the opposite. They quick whistle regular season. They want their stars healthy. And then they want them healthy for the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Then the playoffs come around and they swallow the whistles. And physicality fans love physical, tough, spirited, passion, and basketball. Not all of us. Be careful about loving offensive-minded teams now. If you are an offensive-leaning franchise, this is your time to eat. Because nobody plays defense. So the good offensive teams look unstoppable. I mean, that game last night, at 141, 27.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah, listen, Utah's not quite there. I'll just say this about the Lakers, man. They can beat you in a lot of ways offensively. Once the defense comes around, and I don't know how it does with, you know, Reeves, La Ravia, Luca, those are not three great defenders. But maybe they just beat you with offense, Colin, I don't know. I think they're going to give OKC a lot of problems. Alex Caruso can't guard five guys, okay?
Starting point is 00:42:59 Jay Mack with a news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. I'm just so glad that Cam Scatabu is okay after seeing that video from WWE on Monday Night Raw. I mean, that thing could have gone sideways. I mean, thank God for that security guard who fended off five large men fighting each other. I know everybody got worked up.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I think we should all be very happy that Cam Scadibu did not get hurt in that melee, which was, that thing was Barnyard Music. I mean, it was just crazy. Back in a second live in Chicago, The Herd. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd, weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name?
Starting point is 00:43:46 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.
Starting point is 00:43:59 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come? up with a name Hey Jonas, guys. I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:44:38 or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
Starting point is 00:44:54 This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly, he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy, but I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong
Starting point is 00:45:41 and what that might look like? No, I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever,
Starting point is 00:46:03 because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover, The Family Man, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Georgia accusing Kelly of sleeping with a married man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the team everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it.
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Starting point is 00:47:17 Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives. helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone,
Starting point is 00:47:55 let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Oh, cream of chicken suit. Hey, cream. Cream a chicken suit. This is help from a hypocrite. The worst advice. from the dumbest people you know.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coulthura Podcast Network available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sunday, a Fox NFL doubleheader starts with Justin Jefferson and the Vikings, taking on Jordan Love and the Packers or other regional action. Then, in America's Game of the Week, Jalen Hertz, and the Eagles battle Dak Prescott and the Cowboys, or Falcon Saints. listings for the games in your area, only on Fox. So I said hypothetical, obviously, but I do think a majority of the playoffs are set.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I think Baltimore is going to make their way in. Let's see on the Lions and the Chiefs. But I said, let's do a little simulation here on if the playoffs started today, these would be the matchups. And I started in the AFC where Denver has a buy, and they've been great. The last two years, they've been 12 and 2 at home. So they're going to be well-rested with a brilliant offensive coach, a great defense at home. No thanks for whoever has to play Denver first.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I would take in the wild card round, baffle over Pittsburgh, massive quarterback advantage. And to be honest, when's the last time Pittsburgh beat a star quarterback in the playoffs? I can't remember it. I would take the Colts a much healthier team at home. You know, maybe Indy goes on the road to a cold weather team, but at home they would beat the charge. Rogers, offensive line for Los Angeles is just not solvable. I do not trust Jacksonville going up to cold weather in New England. I would take the Patriots to win.
Starting point is 00:49:46 When you go to the divisional round, this is the one that J. Mack pushed back on. I would take Denver at home over Buffalo. I think Buffalo is a team that you can manipulate. I think they could run the ball, death by a thousand cuts, move the chains, and Buffalo. Remember, Bo Nix does not get sacked and moves well. I could see Buffalo's defense having real problems in that game. And there's nothing to show me that Buffalo on the road against Sean Payton and a better roster, they're so Josh Allen dependent.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I would take the Patriots over the Colts because, again, Daniel Jones on the road, a little regression, and Drake Mays, off the chain right now. I would take Denver at home, more playmakers, both offense and defense. You forget New England's supposed to be in a rebuild still. Denver is not in a rebuild. They have arguably the second best roster in the league. If you go to the NFC, some of these matchups, Philadelphia at home off a buy,
Starting point is 00:50:49 I would take Seattle, a team that creates pressure, better roster against Tampa, Baker struggles, facing pressure, pass-a-rating at 46. I do think Seattle's a great road team with a better roster. Chicago Green Bay is a coin-flare. I say this, Chicago has an identity, Green Bay doesn't. Chicago's second-in-rush attempts, second-in-rushing. Crappy weather in Chicago or Green Bay, wherever it's played,
Starting point is 00:51:17 big edge to the better run team. I would take Chicago. Ram, San Francisco, San Francisco's defense is a shell of itself from two years ago. Rams, big edge. This rivalry starts leaning L.A. in the last couple of years, because the Rams have drafted the defensive side so well. Then you go to the divisional round in the NFC, and these are really interesting games, and they're tough.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I would take the Eagles over the Seahawks, Seattle is turnover prone, the Eagles induce turnovers. I would take the Rams easily over the Bears, a very balanced team, playoff experience, Bears season ends. Probably the best playoff game so far of the year. I would take Rams, Eagles. I would take Slight Edge Rams.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I think they're a more balanced team, a better run team. I just think they're more consistent, and I think they'll finally get Philadelphia's number. Again, very close game. And then you go to a Super Bowl, and again, this is hypothetical, because right now the Ravens, the Chiefs, and the Lions are not playoff teams. Denver's the most penalized team in the league. The Rams last two years least penalized. The Rams make fewer mistakes.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Their offense is more balanced. It's good early, middle, and late. That would be a pretty easy pick for me. And then I think we could have the argument, is Stafford all time better than Aaron Rogers? That would be the argument if he got his second Super Bowl. Because he was better early, better in college, and he's now noticeably better late.
Starting point is 00:52:48 It'd be an argument. I like that, leading the charge. However, Brotisserie Chicken, I've got an issue with the Broncos being the number one seed. Colin, are you aware right now? The Patriots are the favorites, according to every sports book on the planet to be the favorites to get the number one seat.
Starting point is 00:53:06 The New England Patriots schedule-wise are going to get the number one. So Denver's going to probably be the two and they're likely going to open with Buffalo, Baltimore, or Kansas City. I think we would agree the chiefs are going to fall out or the chiefs are going to jump in. The chargers will fall out. I think Denver's going to be one and done, dude.
Starting point is 00:53:24 All right. Well, I think Buffalo has got holes. And I've seen it about four different times this year. On their defense, yes. Yeah. All right. Two down, one to go. It's the herd.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 00:53:48 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life? That is not the look of an innocent man. Is everyone lying to me about who they are? I felt such desperation. I felt it was what I had to do.
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Starting point is 00:55:26 Reality with the King I, Carlos King Recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real House Wise franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the T, everybody's talking about. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021.
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