The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd-HOUR 2-Right & wrong, NFL

Episode Date: August 10, 2020

Colin says where he was right and wrong over the weekend, and why he feels there will be a NFL season.Guest: Peter King Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's universities. I do. I'm just looking at some pictures online here during the break. I think universities do a really good job. I mean, they're not the bubble. They're not the NBA. They don't have 150 million to do it. But I think 13 big 10 schools are going to have students.

Why not have football? You know, who can figure this stuff out? You know, the funny thing about this, Joy, there's so much hypocrisy. So planes are jammed with people. Right. Just jammed. American Airlines, every seat taken across. the country in a tiny little tube, and yet you can't eat indoors at a restaurant in California,

and they've tried to close beaches. I have no idea. There's no, like, federal mandate. It's every mayor, governor, state, restaurant, province to themselves. I, airlines, I've been on two airlines. They're totally different. Well, this is why it's impossible to compare what's going on in our country to anywhere else around the world? Because essentially, our country is 50 individual. countries because our state's doing what they want to do. There's no centralized decision for anything. And like you said before, with college football, there's not one person keeping track of everything that's going on

and uniting the situation to put in protocols and have these hard conversations. Yeah. All right, Colin right, Colin wrong on Monday. Here we go. Where Colin was right. I've been saying this. The Lakers are a championship team because they can't shoot and they can't defend the shot. They are officially the worst shooting team in the bubble.

They're shooting 25% from threes dead last. includes every team in the bubble. They're also the worst at shooting field goals in the bubble. This is the issue. Kyle Kuzma is their number three scoring option. He averaged like 12 and a half a game and he is wildly inconsistent from the perimeter and I'm convinced that LeBron doesn't trust him. This is not a championship team. What it is is a team with two superstars, one of which makes everything work and glossy and refined, but at some point LeBron's lost a lot of finals because he hasn't had enough help, and he simply does not have enough help here. Where Colin was wrong. Lakers are, by the way, two and four in the bubble. Where I'm wrong is

Brooks Kepka. I think he's a top three global golf talent. He melted down yesterday, shot a four over. That was the second worst round of any golfer yesterday. And Bryson DeShambo, who also hits the ball like an ox. I don't really buy as a top five player. I think he's fun to watch. But he was excellent yesterday, minus four. So eight strokes better than

the guy I think is really built for majors, Brooks Kepka. By the way, I think they're both fascinating to watch, but Bryson, he didn't even he didn't get a single break on any of his putts. And he missed every seemingly

single short putt that's the exception. And he still had a great day and finished near the top of the leaderboard. Where Colin was right? I said from the beginning, the PAC 12 would be one of the first major conferences, if not the first to bail. And the Big Ten would be right behind him. And according to reports today, the PAC 12 and Big Ten are going to bail on football.

Why did I think this? Because you know who's winning COVID on college campuses? The academics, the school presidents, the lawyers and the doctors. And the PAC 12 and the Big Ten are better. academic conferences than the SEC and the Big 12. That's not an opinion. Go to U.S. News and World Report. Top 100 public universities.

And the PAC 12 and the Big 10 have stronger pushbacks from the academic side of things. And they're going to shut it down. Never forget the first conference. The shut it down was the Ivy League and the PAC 12 and Big Ten don't see themselves as the Ivy League. But they also have schools considered public IVs like Wisconsin or Penn State or Michigan or Cal. So as predicted, Pact 12, Big Ten appear to be shutting it down. Where Colin was wrong. I was so excited to watch the Pelicans in the bubble.

What has happened? First of all, even in games like yesterday that were really important, they come out. Lethargic, Zion Williamson, who's had a really nice bubble, the times he's played, said, yeah, we just didn't come to play. Alonzo Ball has been awful. He is shooting 26%. I think his field goal percentage. That could be his three or his field goal percentage. They haven't really been intense.

They haven't had what appears to be kind of a strategy. They haven't played with a lot of emotion. And considering their youth, I thought they would be one of the teams that just came in and just outworked everybody. Instead, it's been Phoenix. And it's been the Nets who don't even have half their roster. Where Colin was right?

Kyle Love played with. Cam Newton in Carolina. He confirmed last week what I had heard for several years in Carolina. They did not criticize him publicly. That Cam will struggle in New England if he can't take the criticism because in Carolina, it was understood. He was the franchise. Let's not talk about bad games.

Let's move on. The two things I always heard about Cam from my sources in that building. He played hurt a lot, so people respected how hard he played and how often he played. played hurt. But the other thing I heard is they coddled him. They babyed him. No criticism. It's about Cam. Get him the right coaches. I think that's inauthentic. I think in any relationship,

if you want to grow, you got to push, you got to argue. Sometimes publicly, it gets a little ugly. They just didn't do that. And Kyle Love said that wasn't the game plan in Carolina. And that's the game plan for everybody, including Tom Brady in New England.

Where Colin was wrong. Well, Rockets General Manager, Darrell Mori mocked me on Twitter over the weekend because I did not have, in my best duos in the NBA bubble, I did not have Hardin and Westbrook. Now, Westbrook's a little banged up right now. It should be noted, yes, Houston is 4 and 1, and I didn't have in the bubble.

But I think I've got to give credit where credit is due. Westbrook and Hardin have not only been very good in the offensive end, they've played real defense. They've played real defense. In fact, Hardin currently leads the bubble in steals. And this has been kind of my knock on Hardin through the years is he's going to go down. was an all-time great offensive player, but to be a great player, an MJ, a Kobe, a Duncan,

you got to give something on the defensive end. Now, Magic Johnson was not a great defender, but the effort was there. Hardin has been really working it on the defensive end. Westbrook and Hardin, Westbrook's not a great defensive player. He played better defense. So, yeah, you guys go ahead and mock me. That hurt. That was painful, but they looked pretty good.

Four and one. Where Colin was right? Jay Glazer in his mailbag, and nobody's as connected to the stars around the NFL as Glazer said, it appears that Green Bay is just going through Aaron Rogers fatigue, and that explains why they drafted no wide receivers and drafted Jordan Love in the first round. Glazer explained there's no other way to put it. Sometimes people wear people out. Jay wasn't mean-spirited, but it was more than a subtle nuance take, which is they're worn out.

By the way, there was a national sportscaster for years that got ripped for saying Aaron Rogers is difficult. Who was that? Oh, wait, it was me. Blazer confirming what we believe is the truth. Aaron's a lot of work. I do think he's handled this whole Jordan Love thing brilliantly, smartly and aggressively, not passive aggressively,

but he wears people out. Where Colin was wrong. What happened to the Yankees? Good God, they're two and five in their last seven. They haven't won a nine inning game in over a week. and they just lost three of four to the low-budget raise, which doesn't make any sense because the Yankees can basically buy who they want. At this point, they win when Garrett Cole pitches.

For the record, John Carlos Stanton has hurt again. Can I just ask a question about John Carlos Stanton? He doesn't even play defense. How does a designated hitter get hurt as much as John Carlos Stanton, who was hurt all last year, and he's hurt again this year? The Yankees blew a 3-0 lead yesterday. A lot of talent did not. To me, they looked like a stamp, a guaranteed lock to get into the World Series, did not have a good week.

Where Colin was right? Ben Simmons, Joel Ambide, we've said from the beginning, it doesn't work. Let's move on. It's a Hollywood relationship. It looks good. They're fighting constantly. Well, now Ben Simmons is hurt. Oh, wait, Joel Embed got hurt yesterday.

It can't be this. Listen, they're three and two in the bubble with wins over Washington and Orlando. It doesn't work. The games don't work. They're both now. have injury issues. Ben Simmons, as Doug Gottlieb said about 45 minutes ago, you wonder now if Ben Simmons' body is injury prone

because he is tall and lanky and scores at the rim. But this thing's a mess. I've never bought into it. I still contend they're starting five and the first two off the bench are as good as any team in the east and their season's essentially over. Where Colin was right? Well, last week I went in a rant.

I said if he didn't go to Weber State and play in geographically remote Portland, would we get how much better Dame is than Westbrook? Right now, Damian Lillard is probably the best player in the bubble. He's scored the most total points. He's played the most total minutes. He's averaging 33 points and 9.5 assists. And unlike Hardin, who has Westbrook,

he's carrying this franchise. I like Nurkich. I like C.J. McCullough. Mello's a good story. So is Gary Trent, Jr. Damian Lillard has the best range in the bubble. he's the best pure shooter in the bubble. He's the smallest guy in virtually every game,

but carries the franchise on his shoulders. Yesterday he had 51, and it's him. I mean, I like CJ McCullough, but it's his team, and he remains, you know, I think in the history of the NBA, and I haven't given it great thought, is he the greatest six-foot score in league history? The greatest, in offensively, is he the greatest player at exactly six feet tall in league?

history. I think the answer is yes. Colin Wright, Colin wrong. Peter King is around the corner. We'll update you on the PAC 12. The Big 10 appear to be headed toward canceling their seasons. I disagree, but I'm not an epidemiologist. I still contend as Jim Harbaugh did today, you're safer on the campus in Ann Arbor than you are at home in Michigan or Ohio. But that's where we're at currently. We'll update you. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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They had an agreement. They want to get paid. So I think the NFL is different. I think you have a centralized commissioner and a centralized plan and a players' union. And players get paid. And you have billionaires. College football has always been everybody's fighting for themselves, competing against conferences.

It's still remarkable to me that college football makes $2 billion a year in television revenue alone, and they've got no CEO. There's no president of college football. How in God's name is that possible? I don't get it, and I've been ranting on that for years. Peter King, NBCSports.com, three-time national sports writer of the year is joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network. All right, so you were actually talking about, I was looking at some pictures this morning at Texas A&M and about how they had social. social distancing with workouts. And I'm like, well, it's about as good as you can do. I bet at the college level. So you were actually at a camp, the Texans camp. So what was it like?

Well, actually, Colin, as I've done for the last, I don't know, five months, I guess, when I've written, my knowledge about the NFL has been gleaned from the seventh floor of a Brooklyn apartment building because we can't go inside team facilities right now. And so I basically wrote about a day in the life of the Texans from New York using a lot of modern technology, using obviously the telephone, being in on some Zoom meetings. I watch Bill O'Brien conduct his morning Zoom meeting with his team, the team meeting. Colin, the amazing thing about 2020 training camp, the Houston Texans spent one hour together. All the rest of it is some people were in the facility, some were, you know, J.J. Watt

sitting at home watching the team meeting. You know, and in the evening, nobody is together. It's everybody on a Zoom video conference. So the NFL world is absolutely completely totally different this summer than it ever has been. You know, I said last week, and I've never predicted that. I said, you know, 16 and 0 is ridiculous, but I said, first of all, I don't think rookies will have a huge impact. I think veteran teams who bring back the same system coaches are going to have a massive advantage. I said, you know, Baltimore, because I buy into Lamar Jackson, I don't buy this argument he's going to regress.

I thought he was better in the second half last year. He made fewer mistakes. I think Baltimore could go 16 and no. I feel that strong. And I don't feel that with Kansas City. Peter, I don't feel that with San Francisco. I look at Baltimore and I think they've had an unbelievable offseason. Tell us your intel on the Ravens how they feel and how you feel going forward,

which I think is the most stacked team in the league right now. Well, we'll know if they've got a real chance in week three, quite honestly, Colin. third week of the season, they finally get Kansas City to come to Baltimore. You know, they, even though, you know, crowds probably are not going to be much, if at all, a factor this year. They get Kansas City at home this year. And maybe their toughest other game against Dallas is also at home. And otherwise, you know, they have a very reasonable schedule, you know,

facing the NFC East, you know, as their NFC conference. Yep. And look, I think 16 and O is obviously extremely difficult, but I think that Eric Acosta, the GM and this team have had not a good, but a great offseason. If basically you get Dobbins, the Ohio State running back, with the 55th pick in the draft, and he is pretty close in talent.

to the guy who four years ago went forth in the draft at running back, Ezekiel Elliott. That's one thing. And then you get the guy you talked about pro football focus before. Callais Campbell, the top rated 3-4 defensive end in football last year. You know, they have the ability right now to be better than they were last year. And last year they were 14 and 2. They're much better at the receiver position. Yes.

And I don't think they've lost. very much at all on offense, with the exception of Marshall Yonda, as one of the best guards in football who retired. You're going to have to go back to your encyclopedic knowledge of this, but Jay Glazer and his mailbag the other day, it was not so subtle. He said, listen, somebody asked him about Aaron Rogers, and he said, listen, they've got Aaron Rogers fatigue in Green Bay. And, I mean, listen, Howie Longo's jokes.

You can't have two Hall of Fame quarterbacks in the same room. One sucks all the air out of it. And he says that as Terry Bradshaw's his best. friend. But there does appear to be a situation where they didn't go get a receiver, they moved up for the quarterback, and there's been articles written my former employer did on

Aaron, can be prickly in the front office, blah, blah, blah. When you go back, is this strange, or is this mostly, have there been other instances where a great quarterback, is it odds a little bit with his franchise as

he ages, and you can kind of sense the end coming? I mean, you don't draft somebody at quarterback in the first round, Peter, without playing them for two years. That's just the way it works. Go back into your encyclopedic knowledge. Has this happened before with a player as gifted as Rogers? Yeah, it happened in 2005 with a player as gifted as Brett Fav. You know, and, you know, it's amazing how similar it is.

In 2005, the Packers were getting sick of Brett Fav telling them, essentially, oh, I'm not sure if I'm coming back this year. Now, that really started seriously that fall and the summer afterwards. I'm not sure if I'm coming back. But obviously, at the end, he wanted to keep playing. And by the time he told him, I wanted to keep playing, it was too late. They had already gone to Rogers. Now, I talked to Brian Gutikens, the general manager, the weekend after the draft, and I'm fairly sure he hasn't changed his mind.

If Aaron Rogers plays great the next three years, he's not losing his job. And I think there's probably a 70% chance that Jordan Love becomes the quarterback of the future for the Packers and Aaron Rogers finishes elsewhere. But I also think there's probably a 30 or 40% chance that Jordan Love becomes Garoppolo. Now, again, clearly, I think there's a better chance

that they develop Jordan Love for the next couple of years, and in 22 or 23, he starts playing. But I don't think that's any sure thing. Peter King joining us. Does college football being canceled? And that appears, Peter, in the next 48 hours to be our reality. Does it impact the NFL, in your opinion? In a huge way.

Because, you know, Daniel Jeremiah tweeted today, and I thought it was a great tweet, that if college football is canceled, then basically Nick, year's combine is probably the most important combine ever. And I think he's absolutely right. You know, I wrote last week in my column, or actually Caleb Farley wrote my column, The Virginia Tech Corner, wrote about opting out and why he did it

and how dangerous he felt football was this year. But Caleb Farley is also very, very open to the fact that he knows that teams are going to not only have questions about him all. off the field for opting out, but also on the field because he won't play football this coming year. And so he'll basically, you know, be on somebody's team in 2021 and he'll play football basically for the first time in 19, 20 months. Yeah. So that is going to be difficult. Colin, that's the biggest issue. All the time off that players are going to have between their last year in college football in their first year in the NFL.

Well, the good news about that, Peter, though, they won't get dinged up. I mean, seriously, I heard people saying, well, Trevor Lawrence at Clemson, what if he doesn't play? And I laughed and I thought, what, he's not going to go number one? Like literally, he's not throwing the football for the next 19 months. I still think if you're a talented kid, if the coaches give you, you know, GM calls and the coach said, I love him, he played hard. You know, Peter, this draft is a 50% bust rate.

the first round anyway. I don't think it'll hurt kids. I really don't. Well, the big question, Colin, you know, are they going, are some conferences going to play college football starting in February or March? That, to me, is the big question. And if it is, and if the NFL keeps their draft on schedule, then you might be drafting, you know, late in the college football season, or right at the end of the college football. season. So I think, you know, college football's future as it pertains to the NFL is so far up in the air, we can't even see it. Good stuff. Peter King, NBC Sports. Thank you, Peter. Appreciate it. All right, Colin. You bet. Joel Claddle join us next hour. He's always got strong opinions on

college football. I think he wants them to play. Big Ten commissioners, I'm reading a story here just in, do prefer spring college football season. I'll get into that. I'll have a opinion on that coming up. But first, Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Cam Newton has a fresh start and some big shoes to fill in New England, but he's ready to prove that he can still be as successful as he starts his journey with the Patriots. I mean, it's just a breath of fresh air, to be honest with you. And, you know, a challenge that, you know, I have to expect each and every day. but no challenge is ever going to be greater than a challenge,

a personal challenge that I challenged myself personally. Yeah, we all know what that was and what it is, and it needs no mention. But yet at the same time, for me, I think I got my hands full with trying to learn as much as difficult in short a period of time, and that's what I'm trying to do. You know, I think he's pretty much bought into the Patriot way since he's arrived in New England.

Not like they give you a choice. Well, yeah, but I mean, it's not, you know, I think there was some, well, certainly we talked about it. I didn't think that this was necessarily a fit. Yeah. But Cam has clearly completely changed his approach to everything. He's taking all the criticism and doubters and, you know, critiques that he's gotten over the past couple years and channeled them into this, you know, chip on the shoulder mentality that

New England loves every single year. come up with some bulletin board material, somebody put them too low on a list or something, even though they're favorite to win the Super Bowl every single year. Somehow they manufacture this personal outrage that keeps them at that level. But when you do have that kind of success, you do have to do that, because otherwise you get comfortable and it all falls apart. I don't know what to expect from New England with all the opt-outs this year. I think we probably need to temper expectations.

But I do think that Cam is going to be approaching this season differently than he has in the pass and he's healthier now as well. If he's healthy and is just productive, let's just get wins and stats out. I mean, scouting, you can't just look at stats. I mean, right? If you just look at him and you're like, he's still 6'6, his mechanics are cleaned up, he played hard,

he'll get a contract. It really comes to, in fact, I would argue his personality will benefit if he's healthy, that's one thing. But if he buys into the system, the messaging, because remember I told you about Cam, I said, I actually liked that he kept putting videos out. I'm like, that's really, that matters.

That matters. It's like he was really into it. People believe what you show them or tell them. Cam was telling me, I'm all in on this. If Cam buys into it, I don't even care what his record. I don't care if they go four and 12. If he buys into it and he's healthy, he'll get a contract. Yeah, the story to me in New England is not what happens with the team this year.

No. It's what happens with Cam Newon. Now, when he wasn't there, that was going to be a different situation. If they were a disaster or Sidham came out and was not great, and it just looked like it was all falling apart. I would think it was kind of interesting what their long-term plan was. But Cam Newton just turned that whole situation around for them.

Like he's a legitimate player. What he's going to do in that system will benefit him long-term as far as getting a contract. So Mike McCarthy and Jack Prescott are still getting to know each other as Cowboys Camp gets underway. But so far, McCarthy is happy with what he's seeing from his quarterback. Oh, that's nice. You know, I've really enjoyed his personality.

Very upbeat, very driven. so I would say he's kind of picked up where he's left off based off what I've been told about him as far as how he operates but very detailed in his preparation he's a lot of fun to be around I think Dak has done a great job

with the time away and I'm very pleased where he is and I'm very impressed really interested really interested their schedule joy is a lot of halves and have nots like eight really tough games, mostly on the road,

and then they could go six and one in division, and I'd be like, or five in one in division, and I'd be like, yeah, that's exactly, you know. So, like, when you watch them this year, I told you last last week, there's about eight games I want to see, and they're all those like Rams, chargers, Steelers, those are the ones I'm glommed onto,

because I know Dak can beat average. Can McCarthy take him to beat really good? And if he can, Dax's going to make a lot of money. See, I think we haven't really talked that much about McCarthy because we've spent so much time talking about Dax contract. Yeah. But McCarthy's actually not that boring. He's, he was, we talked about him a lot whenever he left Green Bay.

And when this move was made for him to go to Dallas, we talked about him a lot, too. I actually think that he is a much better coach than he's given credit for. Yes. I think that the situation in Green Bay, as we were just talking about with Jay Glazer, sometimes, you know, personalities. after a while, a relationship, like, you can have success, and then it just becomes too much. And you both get tired of each other. Aaron's numbers did not go up last year.

Like, don't blame McCarthy for everything. Yeah, exactly, exactly. There's two sides of every story. The truth is somewhere in the middle. And sometimes it may lean a little more towards one side of the story. But McCarthy did win a Super Bowl there. And I actually like this fit for the Cowboys. And if this ends up working out,

I think the Cowboys are one of those teams. You know, we're talking a lot about Tampa Bay and talking a lot about New England's and a couple other teams out there that are kind of interesting with the moves they've made. I really want to see what the Cowboys do this year, especially in that division. Finally, Devin Booker has been great in the NBA bubble,

leading his sons to a 5-0 record, and Draymond Green was a guest on TNT, and he made his hopes for Booker's future very clear. Get my man out of Phoenix. It's not good for him. It's not good for his career. Sorry, Chuck, but they got to get Book out of Phoenix. I need my man to go somewhere where he can play great basketball,

basketball all the time and win because he's that type of player. Are you temporary? Maybe. 50 grand. If he had said no, I wonder if he would still have been fine. Well, what if he had said this? If I am Devin Booker, I have to strongly consider if my ownership can take me to the next level.

Do you get fine for that? Because it's the way he said it, he goes, he needs to get out. Well, that's what he meant. That's right. But if Draymond would have just said, if I'm Devin Booker, I have to ask myself, can my owner and front office get me to the next level? I'm not sure. I don't think you get fine for that.

Draymond did not have a lot of finesse on what he was saying. No, he didn't nuance it. He is right. That is the question there, despite what they've done in the bubble, despite what Monty Williams has done with them. And despite the fact the book is a star. I read something this weekend, and I wish I had it. Goulde did you read this for me?

the owner, who was the player Phoenix wanted to draft? The front office wanted to draft somebody with Booker two years. Yeah, so they drafted DeAndre Aiton from Arizona because the owner like went there and who was the guy they should have drafted? It was somebody great in a league right now. And I'm like, okay, that's where if I'm- Isn't Jason Tatum? No, it's Luca.

Oh, so Phoenix won the floor office wanted Luca and the owner's like, give me the guy from Arizona. Can you imagine Luca and Booker together? That would be the best back court, honestly, potentially in league history. There is, there's no confusion about what the, not even the front office, the ownership situation is. Not good. It's not good. And we know that no matter what you put together below ownership that is that dysfunctional,

because we've seen in New York many times, it's very difficult to overcome that. That said, I do like the way that they're trending. I like what they've done. And obviously, Booker is incredible. But he's under contract till 2024. So even, even, even, Dr. fine for this. It's like, when is this even going to be an option? Like, I understand that there's, you don't want players going out there, but like he's on TNT. He's going to talk about

this. And he's saying, he's saying the truth that everyone knows. I don't think it's fair for the NBA. And I'm dead serious. Adam Silver, I know you're not watching, but if you, well, you're in Orlando, you're not doing anything. You probably are watching. If you invite an athlete on TNT, you can't find him for having an opinion when asked a question. That's not fair to Draymond. You can't invite me on a network. I say the question your guys ask me, and you're like, that's fine. It's not Draymond's green

to sanitize his opinion on TNT. Yeah, it's very unfair to Draymond. I mean, and he tweeted a bunch of laughing emojis. He's clearly not upset about it, although 50 grand is 50 grand. But I just, I agree with you. Like, I don't know how you can put him on that show and then find it.

Now, if he had said, come to Golden State. That's different. Okay. You can't lobby. Yeah, you can't lobby. But he's just saying what everyone knows. Yeah. They should rescind that or give it to charity or something.

I think all the fines do go to charity. There are you going. There are you going. I should open up for charity. There's a lot of fines out there. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Geico right now offering an extra 15% off motorcycle car and RV policies. 15% off October 7th is the deadline though. Get on it. So let's start with college football. Big 10 commissioners, it appears are going to cancel the season. They prefer spring football. I'd watch spring football. It's not preferred, but I'd watch it. It would be fine.

Let me tell you the two things I don't worry about. Number one, people say, well, the top 50 to 100 players will just bow out and not play. All right. That's not even 1%. It'll hurt Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State. All right. Oklahoma. All right.

Those teams have the best staffs and the best backup players anyway. So if you're worried about Alabama winning another title, shame on you. The second thing, I swear to God, some of you in the media, sports media, don't have kids. This idea that if you play a reduced spring schedule, eight games in January, February, first week or two of March, it's too much football day, won't be ready six months later on Labor Day. Oh, good hell, what are you talking about? 20-year-old bodies recover. You could drink every night in college for a month.

I ripped up my ankle in college. I'd play basketball 24 hours later. Bodies heel quickly. All you'd have to do is reduce spring football. If you play in the spring, just get spring. You don't need spring football. Just like in the NFL. Gotta have preseason.

We eliminated preseason. We're going to be fine. Just get rid of spring football. You play until March 7th or 8th or whenever the season ends. Then you have a very light fall camp in like August. And then you play next fall. They can handle it. I don't worry about either of those things.

Now, here's what I do worry about. Spring football is not in the spring. It says it is, but spring football would be playing in the last week of December all the way through January and February and probably the first week of March, maybe the second week of March. That's when it's cold. Virus, COVID plus cold, plus influenza, the flu season is just a nightmare if we don't have a vaccine. So my takeaway is you think it's problematic now. We've got cases and death totals plummeting in America, and everybody's freaking out. If college football was organized, which they're not, they would have played in August and September and wrap the season up by two weeks before Thanksgiving.

But they're not, and so they didn't. But it's spring football. I'd watch it. What worries me is the further you push it off, the more it's in the winter, then influenza in this country kills 50,000 people a year. And it's punitive to younger people. The virus is not. So if you would have a punitive young person flu season combined with COVID, which is bad for middle-aged and up, it'd be a mess in this country if you don't have a vaccine. Okay.

Now, there are those who have suggested I was watching another network today. Oh, Lord. They're already jumping at the other place, too. We're not going to have an NFL season. It's just not going to happen. There's a lot of up. Let me give you four reasons why the NFL is a lot different. than college football. And the one is obvious. You can figure this out. They have billionaires.

Every team's owned by a billionaire. Billionaires could write $25 million checks for each team if they wanted to. I mean, every team makes over $200 million a year just on TV revenue, just on that. And they're billionaires when they buy the team to qualify. So Baltimore's owner could write a $25 million just for him, not even league help. And you're testing Lamar Jackson six times a week. He's walking through, you know, this spray and that spray and everybody is socially distanced and they can just pay for it. Colleges do not have, yeah, Ohio State does. Colleges don't have that kind of money. The second thing is everybody here is on the same page.

The players collectively agreed with the owners on the testing and the protocol. They had an opt-out time. Players, you know, they have what they call these trackers, these watches. So, I mean, literally like, Bob, get away from Jim. Russell Wilson, get away from D.K. Metcalf. Like, they got you tracked on this stuff and where are your movements and who were you around? And if you're standing, we had Tom Telesco on the Chargers last week. He's like, I know if I'm standing around somebody too long.

You don't have that at college. Number three is NFL players get paid. They got a lot to lose here. These players, you know, it always cracks me up when it's like players, owners, they're not enemies. They're business partners. That's why the NBA bubble is important. Because the players want to get paid and should.

You don't want to give the owners all the power. So players negotiated with the owners here. They share revenue. You can argue the players should get more revenue. That's a different show in a different time. But they share revenue. This is really important for the players. You know, you look at Patrick Mahomes' contract.

You do get that's what like two guys a team make, big money. Most of the guys in the NFL can get cut. They don't make big guaranteed money. 90% of NFL players, they got bills to pay. And the fourth reason is NFL players go home, often to big homes. They're often married. They hang out with their family. College kids go to tiny dorms at state-funded universities in little pie-shaped rooms.

And there's kids, and they make bad decisions, and you don't know who's been here. or NFL players are more mature, they're older, they often go to moderately sized or big homes. And the reality is football players, for whatever reasons, they start families usually sooner than other sports athletes. So you go facility, you go home, you go back to facility, you go home, you've only got eight road games. And again, in planes owned by billionaires, last year,

if you remember this, the, the, the, blew broke out for the Patriots last year. They flew two planes. They went, okay, the billionaire said, let me get my other plane, and they flew, and you could just fly two planes, and you could. So the idea that college is pro, and the other thing is, college has no CEO, NFL's got Roger Goodell. It matters, centralized voice.

Okay, so Joel Klatt's going to be stopping by last hour. The Klaster gets all worked up, and he is fired up about, you know, what we got going in college football. We'll give you the very latest on that. I will say this, Joy, did you watch any of the golf yesterday? A little bit, yeah. I got to tell you something.

I've always been, if Tiger or Phil Mickelson are playing, I'm watching. Yesterday, no Tiger, no Phil Mickelson. I was absolutely glued to the TV. You got all these big hitters, and they're cocky, and they're alphas, and they're big hitters,

and they're Brooks Kebka, Bryson DeShambone. Now, Dustin Johnson's 36, so he's a little older. But when I sit in there watching the PGA championship yesterday, it was the first time I remember being glued for three hours

with no Tiger and no Phil Mickelson. I've got to tell you, golf's in good shape. I don't need every golf tournament to be the Phoenix Open. But the Masters can be a little stiff, a little cocky, a little alpha. Personalityes make all the difference. Yes.

And that's an individual sport. And you got these guys hitting at 370 off the tee. I thought golf this weekend was unbelievable. Jolk, Clat, hour three next. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman

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