The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd-HOUR-2-Right & wrong, Russell Wilson, New York

Episode Date: September 28, 2020

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Joy, how are you? I'm fabulous. Fabulous. Maybe never been better. The Dolphins won. The Keynes really put a beat down on FSU. Marlins clinched the playoffs on Jose Day and the Steelers won. The feet are in the NBA finals and the Steelers won.

I've never had a day like that as a Seattle sports fan. We just don't have those days. The Mariners always lose. We just never, I mean, they took our NBA team. We don't even have our NBA team. They just took that. So, well, we do it every Monday. Colin Wright.

Colin wrong. There's plenty of both from the previous week. And here we go. Colin was right. Very good week. Making America money. It's what we do. The Blazing Five was four and one.

We were on the right side for the bills, barely. New England, Cincinnati. We had plus five in Tampa Bay. We were wrong on Houston, although I felt great about that for about two and a half, three quarters. But we are now in the winning category through 15 games this year, eight up and seven down, making America money. Where Colin was wrong. The Lakers are in the finals.

I don't even know how. Who's their third best player? Don't tell me it's Danny Green. He looks old and shot. Alex Caruso, really? Kyle Kuzma, I think, is regressed. And they're blazing through the West. They're blowing through the West.

I still do not know exactly how it's happened outside of in a league of duos. This duo's chemistry has been outstanding. For the record, I almost think the bubble is an advantage for LeBron. It gave the older legs three months off. COVID did. He just trained. He was in great shape. He's got his home gym. Not everybody could do that. Remember Chris Middleton said I didn't touch a ball for months. I've never seen LeBron this energized in half a decade. He is just, his energy is unbelievable in the bubble. Where Colin was right? I didn't like Mitch Trubisky out of college. I didn't like him in college, and I never liked him in the NFL and he's done. He threw a pick

yesterday in the third quarter. Matt and he said out. Nick Foles in. Nick Foles through three touchdowns. They go on to beat Atlanta. This is what I never got. Chicago is a cold weather, windy town November on. He's a weak-armed quarterback. Maybe he works in Arizona or a Miami or a Jacksonville. Gardner Minchew's arm works in Jacksonville. You cannot bring a quarterback who's small in stature athletic but can't throw. I like Teddy Bridgewater. It's not going to work in Chicago or Baltimore. It works in a Carolina. It can work in a warm weather city or a dome team like an Atlanta or a New Orleans. I never got Trubisky.

Chicago Wift on the pick. The GM knows it. He'll probably end his career. Winning record is a starter, but the Bears are winning due to coaching. And now due to Nick Ful's, Trubisky's starting career is probably over. Where Colin was wrong. The Patriot's demise is greatly exaggerated. I think they're one of the best teams in the league.

coaching, defense, efficiency. I think they're a trading deadline move from being a Super Bowl team. I really do. I think this is the last team Andy Reid wants to face. This is the last team Lamar Jackson and the Ravens want to face. They'll just ball control you to death. And now they've got a quarterback in Cam Newton that like Lamar Jackson can get first downs. They are really good.

They are really, Miami couldn't compete with them. The Raiders couldn't compete with them. and they are a two-yard play from being undefeated. And I think they just need a deep threat. Nikiel Harry even works now. Like everything is clicking. Where Colin was right? We said all summer, I said Joe Burl is going to be Tony Romo,

but that offensive line's going to get him killed. And he got creamed yesterday. He got sacked eight times. One of them looked serious. This organization does not have a history of doing things right. Joe Burrow, and I'm serious about this, at some point, you may want to get a backup. If you're 0-1-8 or no-and-9 and I think they'll win some games, but this is the worst offensive line easily in the league.

They not only don't run the football, they don't even try to run the football, and that's what Joe Mixon, who's a very capable running back. This is exactly what we predicted. A Tony Romo-level quarterback, he's got real skills, effortless thrower. You know, I don't think he's going to be Patrick Mahomes, but he's a really good young player. He can make plays. He extends plays.

He's tough. He's getting crushed. This offensive line is the pits in Cincinnati. Where Colin was raw. It's not all Sam Donald's fault, but he's regressing, and he was terrible yesterday. He threw a pick six on his first drive, a pick six later. I mean, he's just too loose. He makes bad throws.

Now, now, again, he's using backup wide receivers. Their offensive lines, a total rebid. They've got the wrong coach. Labian Bell's not healthy. He's got nothing to work with. I mean, nobody gets open. He's got nothing to work with. And he makes one or two plays a game that are unbelievable.

He is not getting better. His passer rating is 70. 70. Maybe with all the starters back, it's 80, 85. But Ryan Tannahill got better when he left Adam Gase. And I've been told, the New York Jets owners have reached out to an agent to ask about coaching possibilities.

Thursday is my guess, Adam Gase's last day as a New York Jets head coach. Where Colin was right? We said all off-season. The way to win in Cleveland is take the ball out of Baker-Mayfield's hands. It's exactly what they've done. Yesterday, 23 pass attempts,

37 running attempts. Baker is simply not talented enough to be your fastball. He is a two or a three pitch. Stefansky has realized it very quickly. We can win with Baker. But Nick Chubbs, the best player on this offense. Kareem Hunt's probably the second best player, Odell Beckham. You cannot be led by Baker Mayfield. He's simply not that talent and he's not a special player. But he is the kind of guy like

Case Keenham is backup who can make throws if you protect him, if you give him a running game. But this is what we kept preaching. Stop trying to validate making a bad number one pick. he's a game manager he's got a nice little arm he's not a special athlete take the ball out of his hands let him throw on third and short second and four

and Baker Mayfield then can win you a lot of games that's exactly what they're doing now where Colin was wrong maybe Carson Wentz isn't special because I can't figure it out but Doug Peterson coached that game yesterday like he did not trust Carson Wentz he has regressed his mechanics are a mess

his confidence is done I don't know why Philadelphia's wide receivers and offensive line can't stay healthy. I've never seen a franchise three years in a row. Nobody can stay healthy. But he's got seven giveaways last in the NFL. His passer ratings last in the NFL. His yards per attempt are last in the NFL. And Doug Peterson has lost confidence in him.

They were coaching him yesterday like he was a back-up quarterback. Where Colin was right? I've said for two years, I like Drew Breeze. I love Drew Breeze. He's a Hall of Famer of that Drew Breeze. This is not a Super Bowl team. They can't throw the ball over the top. Do you realize that 65% of Drew Brees's yards are after the catch?

This is a dink and dunk offense. Michael Thomas is not a deep threat. He's just a great player. This offense, 29 completed passes, 13 went to running backs. What are they without Alvin Kamara? It is a dink and dunk offense. The NFL is increasingly explosive, and they are not, they're not even resembling an explosive offense. where Colin was right.

Finally, New York said it five years ago, said it four years ago, said it three years ago, said it two years ago, and I'll say it again, no city has a higher percentage of pro sports teams that are awful.

Even St. John's in New York City's awful. Everything's awful outside of the Yankees. The Giants and the Jets are easily the two worst teams in the NFL, and they may be the two worst coach teams in the NFL, both teams are in a rebuild, and I wonder by next year if they don't do over their rebuilds.

They are miles from being competitive. New York's got all the money in the world, but they've got bad owners and a lot of weak front offices, too much ego, don't put the time in, too much vanity. These are awful, awful professional sports teams. The Giants, I mean, at least the Jets, I think, have a quarterback you can win games with because Sam Darnold last year had a winning record despite mono and a terrible offensive line.

Oh, by the way, Matt Nagy is officially announced. Nick Foles is the starter. Okay. Of course he is. Nick Foles should be the starter. Yeah, this sounds crazy, but it does matter where your team is located. And if you're in a cold weather city like Chicago or Green Bay or Baltimore or Baltimore or. Philadelphia, Foxborough.

Tom Brady threw a very good football in the wind. Tom's ball, his rotation, Tom probably figured it out, cut through the wind. You can't have a weak arm quarterback. The first mistake they made with Mitch Trubisky is this is Chicago. I mean, they're 10 days away from, you know, 29 degrees. And windy on the lake, you've got to have a guy who can throw. I mean, I didn't love Joe Flacco, but his ball cut through the wind in his early day. I didn't love Jay Cutler, but Jay Cutler, you can dress.

in Chicago because his ball, he had a hose. He had a great arm. Matt Stafford in that division. It's not my favorite quarterback, but he can go on the road to Lambo. He can go on the road to Soldier Field. Matt Stafford's ball cuts through the wind. Chicago just, their front office just butchered it. Tribusky is not a Chicago quarterback.

He doesn't have the arm talent to do it. Trent Dilfer is around the corner. How about the last two drives of the game for Russell Wilson and Dak? That kind of summed it up. That it not. That's around the corner. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week,

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So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for. sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

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Longhorn's game this weekend was absolutely nuts. Ridiculous. That conference doesn't play defense. Like Texas has all these great-looking athletes. They don't have a pass rush. I can't figure it out. USC and Texas look the part. They look like they have all these NFL guys.

I don't see the defense. But Texas won. It's a great game. Great finish. And that's a really good game. Trent Dilfer played for a decade and a half in the NFL made a pro bowl and won a Super Bowl. He's now a coach. His team won 61-0.

Friday in Tennessee, Lipscomb Academy Head Football Coach. Trent Dilfer is now joining us. So as a coach, you've seen three games of the Cowboys. I know their wide receiving core is really dynamic. I really like them. And I know my coaches won a Super Bowl, and there's some individual players, but if you looked at the Cowboys film for three weeks, tell me what they are and what they're not.

They're not playing complimentary football. I think they've bought into this sizzle and sexy thing on offense. They're not establishing the line of scrimmage dominance, stealing possessions from the other team's offense, creating a physical presence for their football team in all three phases that has lasting value. Yards are great. With yards, comes some points, but also comes one and two. Winning football games at every level, you have to call the game to complement the other two phases. as a football. I think that's what Bill Belichick, of all his genius, that might be his greatest

genius, is he never let a game be about defense or offense or special teams. It's always the blend of all three together. And I don't see that with the Cowboys right now. By the way, the last two drives of the game really defined it. Dak got close. So did Russell, but Russell made the play. When was the moment? Because Russell was different. He was 5-11 and a half. He ran around a lot. When he broke into the league, there was a lot of, I don't know. No, no. Now everybody likes the running quarterback. What is it with Russell? And when was the moment you sort of went, okay, this is, it doesn't look like it's supposed to look, right?

But it's amazing. I don't know if this is the exact moment. I remember they came back against the Carolina Panthers a few years ago. At home, they were down a bunch. Cam Newton was the quarterback. He was playing great. And you just saw Russell take over the game, especially in must-pass situations. And really, that's, you know, we have these conversations who's the greatest quarterback.

And right now in the NFL, it's so hard to say who the best is because there's so many great ones. Quarterback's never been better. But to me, it always came down to who's the most successful, who dominates the game when everybody in the world knows you're going to throw? So your wife's over there, you know, doing dishes and she looks over and goes, oh, yeah, they're going to throw it right now. Which quarterback in that moment can still take over? And to me, that's where Russell's really separated himself. Him, Mahomes, probably Aaron, Tom Brady still. they're the ones that if everybody in the world knows you're throwing the defensive

lineman four point stances, you're getting the best defensive call from the coordinator, somehow they can still move the chains. I mean, I think about Dan Reno was that way, Peyton Manning was that way, Tom Brady's always been that way, Brett Farve was that way, that didn't matter what you did in those must-pass moments, end of the half, end of the game, again, third and long, they just tend to dominate. And that's really what you're seeing with Russell. There's a ton of production, the numbers are incredible, but in those, critical moments when everybody knows what's going to happen, he somehow still finds a way to be

successful. My jaw drops every time I see it. Listen, you played on a team with a great defense. And when you do, I think it can change a quarterback. Quarterback thinks I don't need to take big risks. What's the point? I watched Tom Brady's defense and I'm like, I'm not sure Tom has to take a lot of risks with this defense. I mean, honestly, this defense is their front seven, pass rush, athletic. I don't even think they're second. is bad. It's just young. I wonder if Tom recognizes very early, this is not going to be the heavy lifting people would think because every week I watch Tampa's defense, I start to believe that's that's the Super Bowl unit. Well, again, and I think Tom is the perfect person to speak into the

three-phase football in that organization. He's actually been playing this way the last few years of the Patriots. You know, Bill built a really good defense there. They didn't have to take a lot of risk offensively. Everybody thought he'd go to Tampa and they're so explosive weapons offensively and it was just going to be Chuck and Duck and Tom's too smart for that. He's still playing football because he wants to win

championships. The way he win championships is you play the position complementary to the rest your football team. He's still going to throw it 30 plus times a game. He's still going to make big throws. He's still going to be Tom Brady. But there's going to be those six to eight decisions he makes a game where he doesn't have to be Uber aggressive. He can be conservative.

He understands that punting with this defense isn't the end of the world. He needs to take advantage of four to six possessions a game when they have good field position, when they feel like they have the opposing defense on their hills. And nobody knows how to do that better than Tom Brady. People will use lame terms like game manager, or he's not himself or he's not pushing it down the field.

None of that matters to him. What matters to him is at the end of the day, was there a win or was there a loss? He wants the wins and he's going to play the game accordingly. When you look at Philadelphia, I know Carson Wentz has talent, but golf and football can be similar. There's a lot of time in the sidelines, and you can lose it. You can just lose your confidence, lose the confidence in your fairway wood,

lose your confidence on the swing pass. Something's wrong with Carson Wentz. I'm watching yesterday. Burrow looks like a much better player. It's a mess. What do you do? He's all over the map right now. I've heard you use the term loose.

I heard Dan Rolowski this morning say nonchalant. I'd agree with both of those. It looks laissez-faire. It looks casual. It doesn't look edgy. It doesn't look precise. The quarterback position, even for the guys that are fantastic athletes and can create and are intuitive players, there's still a level of precision to their game. And you're not seeing that with Carson Wentz.

I mean, we can dumb it down and just talk about accuracy. I mean, those two interceptions yesterday or one interception that was just really bad ball placement. And then at the end of overtime, when he has that slant to hit, On third down, I mean, that's a throw I expect my high school quarterback to make. Inside, chin below the chin, leading the receiver, tight window throws. I'd expect my 17-year-old quarterback to make that throw in a big moment. And here's Carson Wentz and the NFL not making it. So there's definitely a lack of precision.

Now, those things can be fixed. I'm not going to give up on Carson Wentz. But this is all hands on deck for the Philadelphia Eagles organization, making sure that daily he is being grinded and coached on the details and expecting a level of precision from his game that he's not showing. So you are a second year coach. So I was saying one of the things I noticed last year with Green Bay, Matt LaFleur's first year as a head coach,

they were very good on the script. But what makes Belichick and Andy Reed and Pete Carroll different is they go in at half and they make adjustments. Pete's a great second half coach. LeFleur last year, once he got off the script, That was a bad second half team. This year, Trent, Green Bay is a better second half team. Is it a coincidence?

You're in the coach. You're in your second year. Do you think, do you think, I feel like Matt Lafleur is a better coach this morning than he was a year ago this time. Did you come up with this question on your? This is way too smart of a question. This had been your team that gave this to you. This is actually a brilliant question. And again, I know it's just high school football, but it's a challenge, man.

We're really good when I'm on. script. We're really prepared. We all prepare every staff out there in high school football. That second half, I mean, that half time is 15 minutes. And it's more than just scribbling plays that you like. It's a process of having a guy go and get in the office before the first half is over and start cutting things up and looking at tendency. It's communication amongst the offense defensive staff. What's working? What's not working? What have they done differently than we've prepared for? Fronts, coverages, dogs, blitzes, spacing on the field, down and distance tendencies.

I was overwhelmed my first year, and I'm sure Matt LaFleau was the same way. It's really in all hands. It's more than Matt. It's his entire team, meaning coaches, people up in the box, like everybody, all hands on deck, making sure there's the right information getting to them,

and then they know how to disseminate that information and then execute it in the second half. It is one of the great challenges of coaching at any level. And it's amazing how, quickly they've turned it around. Yeah, they really are very good second half team. So finally, you know, one of the staff members, the brilliant staff members came up with this this morning. They said, you know, when you think about this game tonight with Lamar and Patrick, these are playoff teams. But there is psychology in this stuff. If Lamar got behind, could not play well,

Patrick Mahomes beats him again, you do get to a point where it's like, okay, this is the Manning Brady, thing where there is a kryptonite out there. Like, I think Baltimore needs to win tonight, and I would love to see him come from behind and win, and win a shootout. I know it's early. It's week three. This may sound like nonsense, but did you ever play games early in a year, and you thought, you know what, we're going to face this team again.

This matters week three or four. Yeah, every time I face Favre during his three straight MVPs, and they were pounding us when I was in Tampa. Yeah. No, those narratives do matter a little bit, but I think the bigger than it's less on Lamar and more on his staff. I think this coaching staff needs to understand. They're probably a better team in all three phases than Kansas City. They need to take a little bit of the burden off Lamar.

They need to play great defense for one. They can't give it the big play to Mahomes offensively. They got to run the rock. They got to establish their physical dominance. I do think that's an advantage of Ravens have. Probably a little more physical than the Chiefs. They need to exercise that physicality tonight, protect Lamar. And it's not protecting him.

It's just saying, hey, we're all on this together and winning a Super Bowl, not winning a Monday night football game, but winning a Super Bowl takes all three phases being dialed in all the time. And we're going to kind of plant our flag tonight and show the chiefs that that's what we're about. Yeah, good stuff. Congrats on your win. Trent Dilfer at Lipscomb Academy Head Football Coach in Nashville, Tennessee, playoff team last year.

And see, he admits, see, he goes into halftime. He just makes crap up. He grabs a crayon. He doesn't know what he's doing. Coaching is hard, folks. Trent, it's great seeing you. Thanks, brother. Folks, GEICO's offering 50% extra credit

15% motorcycle RV policies in your car. October 7th. Go to GEICO.com. Switch it up. October 7th to get your break. 15% off GEICO's regularly great prices. Here's Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Speaking of coaching, Dan Quinn. Oh, Lord. Bad. How does this, how is this even possible? How does this keep happening to Atlanta? Well, some of it's coaching.

They don't have it buttoned up. It's getting bizarre at this point. So for the second week in a row, the Falcons had a huge lead. They let it slip away. They were up by double digits in the third quarter. quarter. The Bears decide the bench Mitch Trubisky, Mitchell Trubisky, for Nick Foles, and the move paid off. Foles threw for three touchdowns in the fourth quarter to win 30, 26. And get the Bears three and O's for the first time since 2013.

Head coach of the Bears, Matt Nagy, announced that Nick Foles is now their starting quarterback. The Falcons blew a 20-point lead against the Cowboys last weekend. They were up 26-10 in the fourth against the Bears. It's, I don't know. I have no explanation for it at this point. First of all, this is a coaching story. Matt and Aggie is why I bring him on the air. To be 3-0 and to be changing quarterbacks in the second half of week three is a testament to the coaching staff in Chicago. It's not a testament to the GM who drafted the wrong quarterback. The fact that Chicago's 3-0 and we're now gone to a backup tells you they've got talent and they've got the coach.

I don't know if they have the right GM and I think Foles has limitations. But I will say this about Foles. he's just one of those guys. He just lets it rip. He just lets the ball go. And in this league sometimes, paralysis by analysis, Chicago's got weapons. He just lets her rip and Trubisky could be really tentative.

Bowles has a little bit. And look, I'm not comparing the two. Foles is a Super Bowl. I'm just saying Foles is a little bit of that Ryan Fitzpatrickness where it's like you don't think he's really a starting quarterback, but he has the ability to have these big moments. He's just not consistent enough. Right.

Mitchell, I think we know what he is at this point. And obviously, making a change like this, this was something that they were already discussing doing. Right. You don't just pull the trigger on that and then announce he's a starting quarterback if that wasn't already in place. The Falcons, I don't know what to say about the Falcons anymore. They play the Packers on Monday night, so who knows? Maybe they'll go up by 20 again and then blow it. It's just, it's too consistent and it's too much.

There are, Joy, there are historically, there are franchises that shrink in big moments. The Chargers have historically. historically. Atlanta does historically. And then there are these franchises that just kind. It's not just the one coach. They just certain, you know, Miami Heat tend to, in big moments have done well. Like the Pacers tend to shrink in big moments. I don't know what it is.

I don't know if it's the front office. But Atlanta's just always been that franchise. Both their Super Bowls. Big talk, big chatter, have an opportunity, and shrink. And it's just, it's just what the organization. For years and years, the Red Sox were this. until they got Kurt Schilling and Manny Ramirez, these two big personalities, and they just sort of forged their way through all the, you know, nonsense and the ghost of Babe Ruth and goats and whatever it is.

But, I mean, there are franchises that they've lost so much, and there's been so much shrinkage. Like, they get into these moments, and it's like, organizationally, they get tight. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. That's right. So the Browns boosted their record of two and won this season with a 3420 win over Washington yesterday. It's the first time since week 14 of 2014 season, and the Browns have been over 500. Until yesterday, they had gone 90 consecutive weeks without a winning record.

They have Nick Chubb, maybe the best running back in the league. I love, look at this run. Yeah. Everybody had the angle on him. They had the angle on him. He had 19 carries for 108 yards and two touchdowns. Kareem Hunt had 16 carries, 46 yards. You can win a lot of games like this.

When I watched them, I mean, again, Washington's a pretty bad team. But you can go, I stick with my 9 and 7. This is a 9 and 7 football team with a lower ceiling, but they've taken them all away from Baker. They gave it to the running backs. It's exactly what they should be. And when you have Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt, I don't know who your quarterback has to be,

that you wouldn't want that to be a large part of your offense. Baker was 16 and 23, 156 yards and two touchdowns. Dwayne Haskins struggled. Three interceptions, two touchdowns, 21 of 37 for 224 yards. but the Browns are trending in the right direction. Finally, Ben Rathesberger is looking pretty good after missing most of last season two injury. He threw for 237 yards, two touchdowns to get the 28-21 win over the Texans and start to season 3 and 0. So Steelers are looking good.

The Texans having the opposite experience starting 0 and 3, but Bill O'Brien is not worried about having to turn things around. We have a really, you know, veteran team in many aspects. And so I don't think anybody's panicking, but, you know, Everybody knows that O and 3 is not where we want to be. So, you know, it's urgency more so than it is, you know, panic. There's no panic. It's just we got to get over the hump here somehow. No, it's panic time.

They're in last place in the AFC South right now. Titans are 3 and O, Colts are 2 and 1, and the Jags are 1 and 2. Now, they did start 0 in 2018 and rallied back to win the AFC South, but that was a little bit of a different team than they have now. Well, I also think between Mike Vrable and Tennessee, all that guy does is win. And between Frank Reich and Indy and the GMs of both, I think Tennessee and the Colts are really well-run football operations. Houston's got talent, but they don't feel well-run. They've lost a couple of trades.

So, I mean, structurally and organizationally, unless you have a LeBron James. I mean, this is a prime example with Sam Darnold's facing. And Sam's not as good as D'S Sean Watson, but you can be as good as Deshaun Johnson. But if you're giving away players and you're drafting poorly and your coach wants to be a GM and he's really a coach but not a GM, this is what eventually, I always say this. You could put me in control of Microsoft for six weeks and I wouldn't ruin the company. In six months, I'd start screwing it up. In six years, they'd be bankrupt.

When you have Deshawn Watson, you can overcome a lot of nonsense. But at some point, even Deshawn Watson, you can only bail so much water the boat sinks. It's just not a well-run team. And that's what's so frustrating about the Texans. Because, I mean, Deshawn Watson is a thrill to watch play. And you want to have him have the pieces around him to be successful. He can have an amazing career. And it just feels like they're always just right there.

And then this start to the season is this is not going to happen. This is not going to work this year. There's too many teams that have potential to go on runs. Their next three games, they have the Vikings next week on Fox, the Jags, and then the Titans and then the Packers on Fox. All right. Let's look at this. One, two.

I mean, I mean, they're just, they look like a six and, that schedule, actually it lightens up later. But this is a six-win team. This is what they are. And that's what you have when you have a really good quarterback and dysfunction everywhere. You're about a six to a seven-win team. Titans win close every week. That's crazy. Joy with the news.

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I just, it was in the upper right side. I didn't get a ton of it. I didn't get a ton out of the Vikings Titans. It was up in the upper right corner. I got a little bit of it. But I thought, you know, at this point in the season, what you're trying to do as a team is to identify what you are and identify what you're not. And there's very little terrible in this league, both New York teams, and there's very little great the two teams playing tonight. This league is

inches and feet and yards from being good to okay to pretty good to kind of good to not very good. But I thought just to show you how close it is, both DAC and Russell Wilson had great nights last night statistically. But here's, so, so Russell Wilson's final drive, two minutes left, two minutes. He takes two minutes, starts at the 25-yard line with a below-average offensive line and an average at-best wide receiving core. And he does what he does. We get all the elements of Russell, buying time.

Oh, he finds an open veteran tight end. Buying time. Quick out. Get the clock. Get out of bounds. You see the poise of Russell waiting over the middle. And then here, the perfect lollipop. But in the drive, what you got were all the elements of Russell Wilson.

Patience, poise, knowing the clock, yet a sense of urgency. Let's get this damn thing down the field. And then accuracy. Accuracy, very important. Russell worked the middle of the field, the sideline of the field. He rolled out and then he went over the top. It was all the things that special players do. And you got all of it with Russell.

Okay, now let's contextualize Dack. DEC got the ball with almost two minutes left, a minute 57. He's got a better offensive line, though not great. And he's got an unbelievable receiving core and a better star back. Now, it should be noted. Russell Wilson's running back got hurt during the drive. What's new for Seattle? So Dax got better weapons.

There's no crowd in Seattle. The weather is not a problem. He dinks and dunks it down the field. But here is last three throws. Watch his last three throws. his accuracy. Russell's was great in the end. It's a little too high and complete.

Second thing, he's just not quite as elusive as Russell Wilson sacked. And on the third one, he panics. There's 10 seconds left. It's third down. What are you doing? Again, just not quite. Just not quite. Little behind and high.

Russell was accurate. Here you need this capability. Doesn't quite have the sense of, and here, instead of poise, He's got plenty of time. It's stirred down. No, no, no, no, no. And again, that is the difference. It's not that DAC's not good.

Dak is talented. Dak's a franchise quarterback. But when you watch those drives back to back, and DAC had the better receiving core, DAC had the better healthier back, DAC had plenty of time. And it was just, that's the difference in this league from a $35 million a year long-term contract

and a $30 million a year franchise tag. Just those two drives, juxtapose, back to back. And it's not a shot at Dak. Dak had a very mostly nice night. He's done a lot of things. I like his leadership. I like his toughness. Dallas plays very, very hard.

But the last two drives sum up to me, the gap. You got all of Russell. Just poise, precision, sideline, middle of the field, rolling out over the top. It's the variables with Russell Wilson. And he does so, he does everything at an incredibly high level. And he creates this urgency, although he had four minutes. He creates this urgency in the huddle to get stuff done and get out of bounds and let's be accurate. And it's really something to behold.

So here's a second story. So we know that both New York teams are poorly coached. Joe Judge is going to last a while in New York. You're not going to fire a guy. I am told with Adam Gase that Jets lose Thursday, he's done. He got a vote of confidence. Now, they play Denver. They will lose.

Is Drew Locke still out? Will it be Jeff Driscoll? It'll be bad football. But, you know, you'll make it work. You'll get some talent on the field, but the quarterback play. Now, I'm not, we all know that Sam Darnold can be spectacular. Yesterday, he was, and then he was also awful. But Gase has a problem.

He's not only losing games, but he's lost. locker room. Like he's not, I'm always very suspicious when, you know, you could talk guys into plan and talk guys out of playing. Too many Jets are always hurt. Like there's something here. Do players want to play? I'm told the Jets have already reached out to a top coach agent and started asking questions. They're going to look to college. They're going to look to the pros, but the Jets have started the process. Of course, the Jets will deny this, but the Jets are now calling big time agents. I'm not going to give you the name of the agent because that'll give up my source, but they are calling big time agents, Christopher Johnson, and they're now compiling lists.

And I told you this last week, this is what really hurts. Ryan Tannehill has gotten significantly better since he left Adam Gase. That's a problem. There are guys that are very good coordinators, not maybe good coaches. but like Todd Bowles, everywhere he goes, the defense gets better. Adam Gase in Miami, they look better coach without Adam Gase. Now, Miami looks well-coached. Limited, but well-coached.

So he looks like the second best coach Miami has had in the last five years, in the last three years. The second thing is Ryan Tanniel's way better. Ryan Tannos is a much better player with a defensive guy, Mike Vrable. shouldn't Ryan Tannale be better when he had the offensive genius Adam Gase? That's the way it's supposed to work, right? You get Kyle Shanahan, you get Adam Gase, you get Sean McVeigh. They elevate their offensive player. Pete Carroll historically.

Richard Sherman's a low-round draft pick. K.J. Wright, Bobby Wagner. Pete Carroll. Bill Belichick does this. Bill Belichick is whipped on the offensive side. He can't draft the wide receiver to save his life. Belichick's whipped on quarterbacks. He's whipped on wide receivers.

But Bill takes linebackers. interior linemen and safeties and corners, they're all better. They're all better. And that's what coaches do. Sean McVeigh, every receiver and tight end they draft works for the Rams. Every one. Every running back Kyle Shanahan has. Everyone, they all get better.

Ryan Tanniel's better without Adam Gays. And he can't get along with anybody and Darnold is regressing. And by the way, here's another example. We got some Josh Allen video. Josh Allen was a train wreck at Wyoming and a mess his first year and a half in this league. Josh Allen was an out-of-control mess. I saw some stat. He's got 33 touchdown passes and three picks in his last like, you know, 14 games.

Like Josh Allen is what coaching looks like. Josh Allen in college and his first year and a half in the NFL was an erratic, out-of-control, inaccurate. I mean, he'd let go with the football and you just close your eyes and cross your fingers. Josh Allen now is Ben Rothensberger year two. He's taking over games. Josh Allen, this is what Ben Roslisberger started looking like in year two and three. You're like, oh, you can win a Super Bowl with that guy. He was a mess.

That's what coaching is. Sam Darnold was a much better college quarterback and a much better high school quarterback. Sam Darnold was than Josh Allen. Right now, Darnold's lost. I mean, he'd get no, he is regressing. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Sam can't play in this league. But it is, if you don't think coaching matters,

watch the story of New England right now. Watch what's happening in New England with eight opt-outs, six losses on free agency. So I am told it's all but done for Gays. He's done. Thursday night, you know, he wins. You know, a little stay there. He won't get rolled out.

But it's done. New York Jets have made a decision. move it on. He can't get along with players. And I really do think the Tanyhill thing's real. Ryan Tanyl is now a real quarterback. I mean, seriously, he doesn't throw interceptions anymore. He wins all the close games. And his joy, as a witness, that didn't

have it in Miami. He was frustratingly inconsistent. That was the knock on him in Miami. Tanniel was wildly, he'd have games, he'd have halves, but he was up and down. There is no down for Tannahill. He may be limited, but you get the same quarterback every week. All right, Akib Taleb,

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