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Hour 2 and a Friday.
All sorts of energy.
I did big carbs last night, Jay Mack.
A big pre-blazing five carb night.
Bolognese, pizza,
give me that jet fuel I need for my blazing five picks.
58% on the year.
He's not.
He's hot. Yeah, listen, you needed carbs last night after the beating I put down on you in that Austin Reeves discussion. That was fun yesterday. You love that.
I don't, 58% is kind of sort of hot. You want to Vegas this weekend or what?
I want to save some money for the kids. I don't want to be a ball hog and take all the winds.
But let's not waste any time. We're hot. We're hungry. Here's the Blazing Five.
Let's blaze it up.
Fire it up.
It's Collins blazing five.
Buccaneers and Bills.
I like Buffalo at home minus five and a half.
From 100 degrees in Miami, counting humidity.
Now they get a warm weather team up in Buffalo where the weather's 40 and windy.
They are the number one rushing offense.
That matters in bad weather.
Outgained opponents in three straight games.
In their last five wins, they've won by at least a touchdown.
So when Buffalo wins, they tend to play downhill and win big.
Tampa, Bucky Irving, not playing.
Mike Evans not playing. Chris Godwin probably not playing. Their offense is dried up in Tampa,
outgained in five straight games. They're averaging 18 points are the bucks in their last three.
They're two beat up. They're asking too much of Baker Mayfield. I like the bills to win an ugly
weather. 30 to 23 and cover. Seahawks and Rans.
Wise guys may not agree with me. I'll take Seattle plus three. Ten straight road wins. So that
That's not an issue. Tied for the fewest sacks allowed and the second most sacks.
That's very Denver-like. It's easy to win games when your quarterback is the more comfortable.
Averaging six and a half yards a play so they extend drives.
Keep Sam Darnold, JSN on the field.
And not a small note, great special teams, number one, PFF.
That matters because the Rams special teams have been wonky all season.
Also the Rams.
Three of their four wins have been against backups on this winning streak.
They're a little overvalue.
To me, this is a pick-ham game.
I like Seattle, getting a field goal.
Keep your eye on special teams' edge for the Hawks.
28, 27, Seattle wins outright.
49ers and Cardinals.
Ah, Brock Purdy's playing.
I like the Niners minus two and a half.
They're coming off their worst loss of the season.
they will be in a bad move.
Brock Purdy of all the teams he's ever played has owned Arizona.
The Cardinals have lost six of seven.
James Connor, Marvin Harrison out,
so they don't have most of their weapons.
They've been outscored badly in the fourth quarter.
They don't have much to begin with.
I know J. Mack loved them in the preseason,
but they got no juice, no energy, and they're missing stars.
They do not get to the quarterback.
Niners O lines been better than I've given it credit for.
Brock Purdy has time to throw.
His team's getting healthier.
Niners win and they cover 28 to 23.
Ravens at Browns.
I like the Browns plus 8 and a half.
Have not lost by more than one score at home
against the division opponent since 2023.
They always play tough at home against their division.
Dylan Gabriel has been stabilized.
No interceptions in four of his five starts,
multiple touchdowns in the last couple.
He's been stabilized by a great coach,
and he's getting that rookie running back,
Quinchan Judkins, is now on fire and in a groove.
So they can do some ball control in cold weather.
The Ravens' third straight road game,
play a lot of close games against divisional opponents,
and the other thing is that defense on the road
is not very good for Baltimore.
It's not the same.
It's much better at home.
I think Baltimore wins, eight and a half,
way, way too many points.
Ugly, low-scoring game, third straight road game for the Ravens,
a little fatigue, 24-20, take the points.
Lions and Eagles.
I like Philadelphia.
They're a step-up team.
They're four-and-one this year against teams with winning records.
They often play better in the bigger games.
Packers, Bucks, Chiefs, Rams beat them all.
Their offense never turns it over.
Four giveaways all season.
They don't beat themselves.
and they're great in the red zone.
Nobody's better, not even the Chiefs.
So if they can move the ball,
and I think they will,
they will score in the red zone.
The Lions' defense on the road,
not the same.
Jared Goff playing under 50 degrees.
Everything moves down.
Regression takes place.
Penae Seul's banged up.
Sam Laporte is banged up.
Detroit, cold weather worries me.
And I think Philadelphia knows what they are.
I think they're going to win this game in cover.
2824, two of the best rosters in the NFL.
So I like a clear dog in the Cleveland Browns,
but I like favored Buffalo,
favored 49ers, favored Eagles.
Seahawks' Rams line doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
That should be a pick-em to one point.
Now that Seattle gets a field goal,
I really like them again.
Keep your eye on special teams
because the Seahawks have been excellent in the Rams.
I think they're using now another kicker.
A game I did not put in the Blazing Five.
And Dave Wonstat, the former Bears coach, is going to be here in 10 minutes to talk about it.
I didn't put the Bears Minnesota game in.
I just want to watch it.
The lines, I don't know.
Are the bears overvalued?
Here's the interesting thing.
I don't need my young quarterbacks to be perfect.
I need progress.
I'm not looking for perfection.
The Vikings are bad on third down.
They're giving the ball up, pre-snap penalties.
I'm not getting progress.
So the interesting thing is J.J. McCarthy and Justin Jefferson are not working. He's averaging four catches a game.
So you can go back to 2023 when the Vikings had Kirk Cousins and Josh Dobbs and Nick Mullen and Jaron Hall.
Nobody was talking about Justin Jefferson quitting. There's a lot of talk now. Justin Jefferson's body language is bad.
So that tells me the belief in the building practice is not great. That's what it tells me.
So I don't think J.J. McCarthy has to beat the Bears.
I think the Bears are pretty good.
I was just asked this morning by somebody in Chicago,
what do you make of the Bears?
And I said, they're exactly what you see on TV.
They're good enough to beat average teams narrowly.
They've got to clean some stuff up.
They need D'Andre Swift back,
but they're a good, solid playoff-feeling team
that just needs to keep getting 7, 8, 9% better every weekend.
It's really interesting.
What also doesn't help J.J. McCarthy, let's be honest about this.
You ever worked at a place?
and you have this employee that everybody loves
and the company's better with the employee
and then the company does not pay that employee
goes across the street and he crushes it
and the guy that replaces him in your company
and not very good.
Everybody's watching Daniel Jones
and Sam Darnold, they were both in the building
and they both have an MVP years.
So that doesn't help J.J. McCarthy
because the two guys that everybody liked
in the building left and they're crushing it.
So it just adds a dimension of pressure on him.
So I don't need him to beat the Bears.
I don't need him to be perfect.
But you've got to pick up first downs on third.
You can't have the giveaways.
You've got to get out of the pre-snap operational stuff.
I said that about Caleb Williams for three weeks.
I'm like, you've got to get the operational stuff now.
Because I've just seen too many quarterbacks with this coaching staff.
I mean, this is a good tool belt.
This is a good tool belt.
I get Kevin O'Connell, a great left tackle, Justin, Jefferson, Jordan, Addison,
and the Vikings in the off season, they spent money on the O line, the D line, the running back room, and the secondary.
And we just saw them win, what, 13, 14 games last couple years.
So everybody knows it can be done with this group of guys that have all been upgraded in the off season.
So there's no question, there's pressure.
Here's Kevin O'Connell on his young quarterback, J.J. McCarthy.
Most importantly, what I look for is the consistency of being able to put some routine things in that category.
of I can expect them every time.
And it becomes second nature.
And, you know, sometimes when a guy's making his third or fourth start now
or fifth start this week, it's a lot to ask in the midst of games,
especially how they've kind of played out.
But that doesn't change the fact that we're, you know,
in a business of, you know, trying to go want to know this week.
There's been a lot of encouraging things to go along with some things that, you know,
we can improve on.
And he knows that.
We know that.
Yeah, the fall starts.
had seven or eight penalties last week. It was ugly. That was like the most in 25 years.
That was ugly. That's what the road team is supposed to do in Minnesota.
So this is not a game I'm going to pick. I'm going to watch it. It's a weird line to me.
I think Chicago's the better team. I also think Caleb Williams and Ben feel like they get a
field goal better every week. They just get a little tighter every week. So I don't have a strong
feel for it. But I am fascinated by the J.J. McCarthy angle. That I think is interesting.
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Boy, coach the Chicago Bears.
Still beloved
by the Plummers Union in town
and every Italian joint, Dave Wonstadt
joining me in studio.
I mean, listen, you thought you were
going to go to Naples. You're going to be
up here doing bear
playoff shows for the next
month. So the Caleb
Williams thing, somebody asked me today
and, you know,
a fan of the bears, what do you think of them? I said,
they are what they look like on TV.
They're good enough to beat average teams.
Let's see if they can beat good teams.
Yep.
But, and you know you've been here, you've coached in the NFL, they are getting better.
Like the operations are cleaned up.
And the one thing I'll say about, there's two things about Caleb, coach, I always like.
He doesn't get hurt.
A lot of these young guys get banged out.
He doesn't get hurt, and he doesn't throw picks.
What do you see?
Right on.
I mean, he's about 225, 230 pounds.
So he's not the 6-4 Josh Allen,
heath-wise, but he is physical runner like that.
So you're correct there.
He doesn't throw picks.
And the biggest improvement on this Bears football team,
and they have improved, is the offensive line.
They signed three new guys, the center of two guards.
They haven't missed it down.
They've been healthy.
And obviously, Darnell Wright is heading to the Pro Bowl,
their right tackle.
And then they finally got a left tackle, you know,
stabilized, yeah.
Kind of stabilized.
And Ben will not hesitate to bring in an extra alignment as a blocker in situations.
He'll keep a tight end in if he has to as a blocker.
So he's going to do the things smart to protect him.
There's no question the offense is better with Ben.
You can see the coaching.
Well, and I tell you, I was thinking about this.
Up under center.
Up under the first two or three passes in last week's game, up under center,
back, play action pass.
And, you know, so when your play action passes, that's timing.
So the ball is going to come out quicker.
You don't have to stand back there and try and find your first, second, third
receiver.
So the things he does with the quarterback and the running game, don't lose sight.
I mean, last week, DeAndre Swift had 13 carries.
Kyle Mononga, the rookie from rush.
Seventh rounder.
Coach, seven carries last week, too.
So they have evolved their running game from just.
a wide stretch play, the outside zone,
so they're running some Don Hill stuff now,
which is Monong guy.
They're also using their tied end better, the kid from Michigan better.
I'll argue all day.
I like their personnel.
I think they got more talent on offense than defense.
I think if you took their 10 best players, eight are offensive guys.
But I don't know if they're an elite team, but I've watched them now.
They feel like a playoff team.
Yeah, this is a huge game for them this week.
going to Minnesota. Minnesota, physical in the first time,
they couldn't get the running game going. So this game here,
I think with a variation, the offensive lines better in the running game,
this is going to be a little different game. But this is the real, this is the
litmus, this is the test this week. So I love Mike Vrable.
Everybody's saying, well, who gets more credit, Vrable or Drake May?
And I said, to me in the NFL, winning and losing games,
comes down to about seven plays by a quarterback. They may be pre-snap,
a sideline throw. Last night,
they had a jump pass, a big throw down the seam,
is that there's, and that's the difference between Andy Reed and Philly
and Andy Reed in Kansas City.
It's not 50 plays.
It's seven by Mahomes, and he's so good in big moments.
I watched Drake May.
I mean, on first down, he's completing 78% of his throws.
They're never behind the change.
It's always second and four.
They look pretty well-oiled to me.
I don't think it's a mirage.
This looks like a really elite team.
You know, what I think, and Mike Brable, number of,
one, obviously, he's had
success, so he had a blueprint. We know that.
But he brings him Josh McDaniels.
And Josh McDaniels is a guy
that you don't have to coach your coaches.
Vrabble and him were together.
They work together.
If somebody jumps offside,
they both know how the other side
is going to respond. And when you
can hire guys that you know,
I did that with Jimmy brought us
all from Miami. We were all
together. If you don't have to
waste time coaching coaches on how you want to run a operation and what's important to you and what's
a point of emphasis you can make a lot of progress and don't lose and then you walk in and you've got
five or six how many they got of these things Super Bowl rings instant credibility so bravely
brings instant credibility he brings coaches that are known up to waste time coaching coaches
and the third thing they did hit on these draft picks yeah yeah right i mean
Maybe on Henderson's the real deal.
Henderson's the real deal.
Obviously, you're talking about...
Campbell, the left tackle.
Campbell's the real deal.
People had him as the first offensive tackle.
And then they hit Drake Mason.
They have hit on their draft picks in addition to it.
We were talking about Seattle playing the Rams,
probably the best game of the year.
You know, John Snyder, the GM,
everybody wants their McVeigh.
And I would argue they found him.
He's just a defensive coach.
He took that Pete Carroll defense,
and next year,
They were noticeably better.
Another draft class.
Now they're even better.
They've got four or five guys rotating up front.
They just, it's a bunch of, it could be Murphy, it can be Demarcus Lawrence.
It's a bunch of different guys.
They're not dependent on like a Bosa or a Khalil Mack or a Vaughn Miller.
What do you make of the defense and what he's doing?
Well, I love it.
It's the style that I ran everywhere I coached.
Okay.
We were, they're blitzing right now.
First, let's go back before he got that Seattle job.
When he was at Baltimore as the coordinator, they were first, second, or third every year that he was there in defense.
So he obviously had a foundation for what he wanted to do.
And you know what's amazing?
When he gets the job, when I first got the bear's job, I went out and played golf with Coach Noel, Chuck Noel.
And on every hole, I was asking him a question.
And at the end of the day, we were sitting there having a beer and he said, you know, keep this in mind.
why did you get this job?
And I said, because of my
defensive expertise. And he
said, when you go in there, there's going to be a lot
of holes in the dam.
First thing you do, you spend time and get the
defense right. Yeah, get your side right.
Get your side right while you were hired.
And that's what Mike has done. And people talk
about him not pressuring. I used
to have a guy in the press box. I was
only pressuring 12% of the time.
He's around 15%. But I used
to have a coach tell me it's time.
the blitz just to keep the offense honest so they know that you had some and we get into a super
ball that first super bowl and it was the same thing the coach said my young guy was saying me coach
you haven't blitzed you haven't blitz and i said well okay and i call a blitz that we ran the first
game of the season nothing new we just ran one all year and ran it in sack jim kelly so my point was
that I really appreciate what he's done,
and you can do it a lot of different ways.
You might get somebody up here that's a blitz maniac,
and he's going to see it completely different.
You can win and win Super Bowls doing a lot of different ways.
So I'm not a fan of firing coaches mid-season.
Brian Daibald and Jackson Dark got along great.
What's going to happen is Kafka is not explosive,
so the media is going to like him, the player is going to like him.
I call it the substitute teacher rule.
Everybody loves him.
Right.
But what happens is if you look at a giant schedule at the end of the year, a lot of winnable games.
You go on a three-game winning streak.
The players like you.
The media likes you.
Jackson Darts like, man, this guy played in the NFL.
I like him.
And then you're stuck hiring the interim guy.
I like Mike McCarthy because I think he's a proven – I said this about New York.
Joe Torrey, Pat Riley, Tibbs, Bill Parcells, Coughlin.
I don't like interim – I don't want interim guys getting jobs.
Coordinators in New York.
getting jobs. What do you make about how they're dealing with it with Kafka, the interim and dable?
Yeah, I like Mike McCarthy. I'd love to see Mike get that job. Where's he from?
Chicago. Pittsburgh. Well, Pittsburgh guy. You're right. Pittsburgh guy.
No, but seriously, Mike would do a fantastic job there. But yeah, you're correct.
Because what happens is the guy takes over, he wants him to play hard. He's saying, oh, no, I'm just the interim.
But deep down, he wants to. He's going to eliminate no more equipment, no pads in practice.
No, I'm serious.
You know, Pat.
What do you got?
Dress code's gone.
Forget the dress.
No, there's no dress code anymore.
Everybody loves them.
Coach, everybody loves.
But I'll tell you what it does do.
It kind of gives, I guess, you more time.
It gives the general manager the owner,
even though there's rules in the contract you can't talk to people formally.
I get that.
But we all know that people are talking behind the scenes to agents.
If you want a college coach,
I mean, maybe it's less.
Lane Kiffin, they're interested in.
I think Lane would do a great job.
They get the agent to call Lane's guy
and just to find out, would you be interested?
And if he says absolutely not,
then they won't waste time on him.
So it does give you a little bit of a jump that way.
Yeah.
I want to ask you about,
because you do a lot of college football,
and I thought Mendoza last week
kind of separated from all the other quarterbacks.
I liked Dante Moore, but he's 20.
And when Sam Darnold came to New York at 21,
he was too young.
20's too young to play in the NFL.
So I like Mendoza's 22.
He's going to be 23, 6'5, he's got a big arm.
I thought that Penn State Road win, the way he was throwing balls down.
But if I told you, so we had a list earlier today of the teams that have to draft a quarterback with their first pick, there's about five,
and four others that should consider drafting a quarterback, maybe second or third pick, but like the Rams, Stafford's old,
maybe your second or third pick, go get somebody.
Would you take a Mac Jones, who's had a hell of a year in San Francisco, you can get him for a,
very Baker-Mayfield level price or go with a rookie if you're Cleveland, for instance,
Stefansky, who's got a really good defense, you bring in Mack, he's not going to make
a lot of turnovers, he's seen every NFL defense.
I look at all these teams and I think, well, if Dante Moore doesn't come out, if sellers
in South Carolina, who I like doesn't come out, would you go with the rookie or Mack Jones?
Wow.
You know what?
I would have to, I'm going to be honest with, I would have to really deep, deep-dive.
into these guys.
Mendoza is a guy that
I think because of maturity,
I think the quarterback position,
that's what held San Donald.
Sam should have stayed there at U.S.
He was just a kid.
He was a kid.
So I think maturity at the quarterback position
has a lot to do with it.
A lot of these guys that they're talking about
these quarterbacks are just juniors,
transfer guys,
one year, wonder type guys.
You'd like to see a little bit of history about them.
I might go with Matt Jones to be honest with you,
just because I know what I'm getting.
I know what I'm getting as compared to taking a chance
on a first round pick and losing it.
Dave Wanstad is joining us, 39 seasons coaching.
Let's go back to the NFL.
It used to be that you gave quarterbacks three years.
That's over.
Now these college kids, they got private coaches,
seven-on-seven summer.
I always say Thanksgiving year two.
you and the GM got to go upstairs quietly, privately, and make a decision.
So J.J. McCarthy has struggled.
He's been very good on script, pretty bad off it.
My take is, just give me the rest of the starts.
He was hurt last year.
If you're in that room, you're J.J. McCarthy.
You won with Sam Darnold.
You won with Kirk Cousins.
Hell, Josh Dobbs, without a practice one.
You've got a good roster.
What does Kevin O'Connell or you, would you need to see the rest of the way
to go, okay, we're not going to draft the quarterback, he's the guy.
This is his fourth NFL start, right?
We all know that.
Fourth start coming up this week against the Bears.
And I'm a JJ fan.
I'm a fan of his, and I would go back to, he's a young quarterback.
What can I do to help him?
I just think that they've got to do more.
You see what the Bears are doing.
The Bears are up under center.
They're going play action,
They're running the ball.
And then a lot of K.
The touchdown, to win the game, Caleb Williams,
that was a fake run or pass option play.
Run or pass option.
The tight end and receiver coming across the field.
You know, Cole Comette made a great block.
My point is, JJ's a good enough athlete that you can do some things,
in my opinion, I would, to protect him a little bit more.
I mean, you've got to try to keep him out of harm's way
until he gained some confidence.
because right now, I mean...
He doesn't have any confidence.
He got no confidence.
Coach, when you complete 40% of your passes in the second half
or whatever he did last week, that doesn't give you much confidence.
I don't care what you say at a press conference.
Is there a team?
Like, for instance, Seattle Rams, I actually like Seattle, better special teams.
They run the ball really consistently.
They're a great road team, strangely.
Do you have a feel on that?
I think it's the best Fox game, the best game of the year.
Seattle Rams, what's your gut on that?
Well, I just, I kind of like the Rams because I think the Rams are a little more complete team.
They're older.
Yeah, they're older, but we're talking about one game, right?
Right.
One game for three hours.
For three hours, I like the Rams young, aggressive defense, okay?
And obviously they got, they're a quarterback and the explode stuff.
So I like the Rams.
I just think they're a more complete team.
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to argue.
They've been using three tied ends.
In the middle of a season, they change their offense.
It's very impressive.
So right now, you had Charles Haley in Dallas, and he could be a little disruptive.
So in Philadelphia, they have A.J. Brown and wants the ball.
And just like with Haley, you were winning games.
and that mostly soothes friction.
What do you do when you have a great player,
A.J. Brown, Charles Haley, they're a little disruptive
and they're verbal.
You're winning, but a coach told me this year's ago,
the only thing that gets in the way of a great roster
is cluster injuries or drama.
Nothing else. You can even be average at quarterback. You'll win games.
What do you do with A.J. Brown?
The quickest way to be defeated is to be distracted, right?
And you've got to just be careful.
I don't know why.
I think they're doing the right thing.
You know, they know how good he is.
I think he likes winning.
He just wants the ball.
I mean, I would love to know what the one-on-one conversations are between Nick Sariani and A.J.
Brat.
You know, I think it comes down to sitting down and just have a...
Did you sit down with Haley?
Oh, God, yes.
You did?
Yeah, he threatened to beat me up a couple times.
No, but I did.
Oh, Charles, every day I would go out of my way to try to talk with him, you know,
and just have a relationship with him.
I think that goes a long way, and I'm sure that Nick does.
I assume.
I assume he does.
But I think that's the best way.
And then other guys on the team, you know, what's a relationship with other players on the team,
which, you know, with the player.
You know, I had a couple of Tony Casillas
and a couple of defensive linemen
that were veteran guys, big-time players,
and they would talk with Charles, you know?
And so I think communication in that situation
is the number one key.
There's never a perfect locker room.
No.
Even the Cowboys when you were winning Super Bowls?
Oh, God, no. Are you kidding me?
Right?
No, it, there's not.
There's not, and as long as guys are working hard and showing up on time, now this carries over to practice or it carries over to meetings, then you got a problem.
Does you ever have a great player who was a bad practice player?
No, not. I have a few guys that at the end of their careers, when I was at the Bears, my first year, Richard Dent, Hall of Fame.
Yeah.
Right? Richard came out and he wanted to play. He played another year. Did a fabulous job for me. Fad fabulous job.
But he was just an older guy and his being able to run and do the things.
And he come to him and just say, can I get a few of these off?
No, I just didn't, I just said, take some place off.
Now, the fringe came to me, the first practice I ever had.
Wait, now think of this.
I'm the first time head coach.
And we go out to Mesa, Arizona to get out of the weather
because I wanted to evaluate the team before the draft.
And I said, guys, I told me a lot of thing, after we stretch it,
and Cubs are in the spring training.
thousands of people right yeah out there Chicago fans so this is important to get
off on the right foot your first time and I said after we kind of talked to you
we're gonna run a half a lap and go to our drills so we do it I blow to whistle
everybody takes off running the fridge starts walking over to the bicycles I
said fridge come there I said we got we got to take a lap he looks at me says coach
I can't run anymore and I said you can't run anymore I said well we'll have
Go over on the bikes and we'll talk about this when we get home.
So I call him in and I said, fridge, this isn't going to work.
And I said, if he can't run in our scheme, he says, well, coach, you know, I got to work.
I need a job.
I'm building a house in South Carolina.
And I said, I tell you what, back then if you stayed eight weeks, you got your full salary as a coach as a player.
So I said, I'll be right back.
Don't move.
So I get on to McCasky's office.
and I said, we got to keep the fridge.
I'm going to keep them eight weeks and one day.
Okay, but he needs to be on this team.
He will help us.
So McCaskey said, fine, if that's what you want to do,
so I go back, I said, fridge, eight weeks and one day,
but I need you as a short-yardage guy,
I need you to help the young players.
Coach, I'll do whatever you need.
And he was fantastic.
We kept him eight weeks and one day.
It was unbelievable.
Yeah.
So did I ever have a player that couldn't run?
Yes. To answer your question.
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One of the questions is which QB will have the most passing yards?
Patrick Mahomes, Jordan Love, Caleb Williams, or Michael Pennix Jr.
Who you got, Coward?
Jordan Love Against the Giants Rebounds.
I don't think the Giants are going to have...
The problem is the Giants' run defense is the worst in the league.
So this should be a Jacobs heavy game.
And I also think the Giants won't extend drives.
They don't have...
They're on their third quarterback.
Well, they have James Winston.
What are you talking about?
All right, J-Mack with the news.
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This is the Herdline News.
All right, you'd like some good new head coaching odds.
So we got the New York Giants.
see Brian Dable was canned earlier this week.
I saw a report he may surface at Penn State.
That's super spicy.
However, what are the Giants going to do?
GM, Joe Shane, who somehow magically kept his job.
You know, he's got a tough decision to make,
and we've got some odds.
According to Giants legend, Tiki Barber,
he thinks that the Giants should go,
instead of going after a young stud,
there's a name that's very obvious
that you and I have mentioned here on the show.
As much as I would love to go,
the young whippersnapper who's going to be an offensive genius,
I do think that they need someone who's done it before.
And the obvious answer is Mike McCarthy.
That's who I think it's going to be.
Yeah, he must be watching the show.
I mean, heck, I mentioned him like in September when the Jets were 0 and 4.
Here's the weird thing.
I don't know that the Giants job is that attractive, Colin.
I mean, again, we're talking Jackson Dart.
a lame duck GM,
uh,
skill position players,
eh,
I don't know.
They,
the current odds have McCarthy at plus 700.
I would,
I would take the Giants job over the Jets job,
because I have Abdul Carter and Scadaboo and Jackson DART and Andrew Thomas and neighbors.
The Jets just gave up their two best players.
They've got a billion draft picks at the top of the draft the next two years.
They haven't shown an ability to hit on those.
Well,
that's what the new coach can do.
I,
I'm here.
I know what's going on.
You know, listen,
if they reach out to me,
for advice on this one, the Jets.
Yeah.
I will chime in and let them know.
I don't, I just, I think the Jets job is better than the Giants.
I don't see McCarthy taking this.
Who's your backup option?
Let's say McCarthy says, no, thank you.
I take the Jets job.
I got to deal with Drake May and Josh Allen for the next decade.
I got to do with Jalen Hurts and Jaden Daniels and Dac Prescott?
Yeah, I'll take that every day of the week.
Josh Allen's the most talented quarterback in the league.
Second or third may be Drake May.
No, thanks.
Oh, my God.
Second or third, Patrick Mahomes.
Can we check?
Is he breathing?
Is he a lot?
Is Aaron Glenn, who can't even figure out defense?
Is he going to be some draft maven?
He can't even figure out his side of the ball.
They have one takeaway all year.
He was in Detroit when they drafted all these good players and now have a juggernaut.
Have some faith.
Give me a spicy name for Giants.
Come on, outside the box.
What do you got?
It's real loose.
If I'm Mike McCarthy's these.
If I'm Mike McCarthy, I take the Giants.
I got Jackson Dart.
I got no idea who the Jets quarterback is.
I think the Giants job is, I don't think it was close.
I like a blank slate over Jackson Dart.
All right, let's move on to the Detroit Lions.
We love Dan Campbell on this show.
Listen, man, Jared Goff, 74% completions?
20 touchdowns?
Campbell has taken over play calling and was asked if Goff is playing the best football of his career.
I just feel like he's gotten better every year.
That's me.
I mean, so yeah, I guess to answer that question, yes, I do.
I think he's settled into his own to where he's, you know, he just continues to take it another notch and, you know, and just continues to get better.
It's unbelievable, you know, what he's able to grasp, retain, get us into the right play, and we literally just gave it to him.
You don't have time to digest it.
You're running out on the field and now you're going through it.
He's not a guy who's going to be able to, you know, he's not Lamar Jackson.
Yeah, listen, that's a great...
Penetrating insight. He's not Lamar Jackson.
Well, he's going to be a great standalone game.
I think we both like Philadelphia, but you've got to say this about Dan Campbell.
From the very beginning, there were two things Dan Campbell did to create the culture.
First of all, they went for it on fourth down at an absurd rate.
Like they went for it constantly, sometimes to their peril, their demise.
So he basically, his identity was, we're going to be crazy aggressive.
The second thing was, the team was, the team.
played so hard.
That's what I'm saying is, Dan doesn't have to be a scheme guru.
What he's done and what he's shown, Harbaugh's done it.
John, Jim Vrable, build a culture.
The Lions have an identity.
And that has, to me, when you have a two-game losing streak or you kind of lose your
way, that's my knock on Green Bay.
I know Matt LaFleure is smart.
What's their identity?
I don't know what Green Bay's identity is.
So just to read about rewind and turn back the clock, Dan Campbell, first year, 3 and 13.
That's right.
But wildly aggressive and played their butt off, 6-1 possession losses with an atrocious defense.
They played so, I remember saying on the air, I don't think you've ever seen a bad team play this hard for the entire season.
And then the next season, they started at 1 and 6.
Remember it? He was like on the hot seat, and then they peeled off a bunch of late wins.
So we've got to have patience.
Or Campbell would be on the street if they fired him after a year and a half.
we've got to have some patience.
I think Campbell's turned it around.
I was wrong about him.
Although, if I asked you, will the Lions get to a Super Bowl with Dan Campbell's head coach?
You would say, coin flip, 50-50.
No, I'd say I need a yes or no, Colin.
I'd say odds or no because of everybody else in the NFC,
but I think they've got a look.
I think they're one of six teams that I would say is at least 50-50.
Seattle, Rams, Detroit, Philadelphia.
Packers.
I don't know what they are right now.
I don't love what I see.
Oh, dear.
All right.
Final story.
Let's go to the NBA.
We haven't talked to the NBA yet.
How about this story?
Steph Curry and Under Armour, the marriage is over.
They have mutually agreed to end their partnership after 13 years.
The Curry brand will branch off.
The Curry brand is strong, man.
I mean, because Steph Curry, one of the strongest brands in individual sports.
I mean, as an NBA player.
Do you have any of his shoes?
Yeah, I have his first pair.
You know, the Curry ones.
Remember the ones that everybody made fun of?
I don't really care.
I'm a Curry fan.
You know, what do I care if people don't like them?
I don't care what the masses think.
I like the Curry brand.
I'm all in on Curry, and I will continue to support him.
Under Armour shares have fallen significant this year.
Now, everything outside of the Magnificent 10 is down in the stock market.
Well, I mean, in the shoe space, having a celebrity matters.
I mean, it does.
Yeah, he hasn't moved shoes like LeBron or Jordan, but, okay.
I mean, but Gronkhead, Wolf and Shepherd.
you've had guys at Nike,
the reality is, in that space,
the shoe space, athletes work.
Because a lot of shoe buying is cool.
What's cool, what's hot.
And that matters.
Like, MJ is still cooler than LeBron.
Like, LeBron's not considered cool.
LeBron's great.
Michael's cool.
The late Kobe was cool.
You know who moves shoes in the NBA?
John Morant moved shoes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where's he?
So Curry's more of a nice brand,
like your mom knows him,
your grandma might know Jeff Curry.
John Moran's cool among the kids.
What's Curry's big shoe?
Like what was his?
He hasn't had one.
He's not moving merch shoes.
But does it matter?
No, I mean, I think I'm not a big fan of the cool athletes.
I like the mature guys and Curry's a grown-up.
And he wins.
Give me wins over cool.
And LeBron, I don't think is cool.
I think he's great.
I think he's pretty mature.
Michael Jordan had an edge.
And it was a different time.
But there are certain players that you understand.
why they sell shoes. But here's the weird thing. Nobody, well, not many people wear Michael Jordan's
shoes to play basketball. They're more cool because they're, you know, 40, 50 years old. Like,
what shoes do you wear when you play basketball? I don't play basketball. I'm just kidding.
I lift weights. Yeah, I'm a Dwayne Wade guy. His shoes are just super comfortable. I like him.
What company does he have? I think it's Lee Ning. It's an Asian company. Yeah. But I just go for
comfort. I don't go for cool. I used to wear
Dame Lillard's, Carmelo Anthony's. I wear whatever
feels great on these puppies
because these dogs are barking.
Okay.
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It's an interesting week in college football.
I'm going to take Georgia over Texas,
Alabama, over Oklahoma.
In the rain, I'll take USC
to beat Iowa. I'm not sure of
if Iowa can throw the ball down the field,
score enough points. I think they're all
close competitive games.
In the NFL, let's put up the schedule,
our week 11 schedule. I think it's
probably the best week of the year.
I think Denver, Kansas City, Detroit,
Philadelphia, Ram, Seattle.
I actually think Chicago
Vikings is really,
really good. I think it's an excellent week of
NFL games. I think the numbers, I already
have my blazing five picks. I think the numbers
are pretty interesting. Even the
games, like Baltimore, Cleveland,
that you don't think's going to be good,
keep your eye on Cleveland
giving Baltimore trouble.
It's a huge game for the Chargers at Jacksonville.
I stayed away from that game.
I think the number's right.
I think the one game that I look at,
that if it's an upset,
we're going to have a massive inferno on our hands.
If Baker and the Bucks can go to cold weather buffalo
and win, the Sean McDermott hot seat gets ratcheted up,
That one is a really interesting game.
I like Buffalo.
I think it's comfortable.
Last week, I read two different players complained about the heat in Miami.
They don't practice in it.
They weren't prepared for it.
That one, that's a game that may end up being a blowout and Buffalo controls.
But all these games on the board, if you had an upset, none.
I mean, again, if Baltimore loss, obviously it would be somewhat shocking.
If Baker can beat Buffalo, you're going to have, we got,
major heat on Sean McDermott.
Well, we have this game in headlines. I just looked up the weather
report. Windy and cold.
40 mile an hour wins, Colin.
Rain and snow.
Temperatures in the 30s.
That's why I like Buffalo. Buffalo's the number one rush
team. James Cook. Bucky Irvin
still hurt. So Buffalo is built.
The old Buffalo teams weren't. This
Buffalo team is built for crappy weather.
They're just going to run James Cook 26 times.
Real quick. Steelers, Bengals, anything?
You haven't really touched that game this week.
Bengals off a buy.
It was one of the games I consider didn't take.
I think Pittsburgh wins.
I don't trust their offense,
but I think they win semi-comfortable.
Yep.
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The Knife is a podcast about the moment ordinary lives take an unexpected turn.
Real people, real stories, and the split second that changes everything.
New episodes drop every Thursday on the Exactly Right Network and the IHeart Podcast Network.
Listen to The Knife on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Therapy is fantastic, but once again, it does not have a monopoly on healing.
That's why I create the resources and that's why I create the community because I really just want you to have more access.
On the podcast, cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard.
It's tough because we're suppressing our emotions and so many of us are like high achieving individuals.
Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
This week on Crimless, Rory and I welcome a very special guest.
When I did podcasts, I wear my sleep masks.
I like what this is going.
So if you guys will indulge me.
That's right.
The incredibly talented and hilarious Will Ferrell on an episode dedicated to crimes committed by people named Will Ferrell.
You're good for 300 crimes?
Yeah.
We've got two.
I'm ready to go right up to present day.
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