The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - The Eagles don't look like a champion right now, the Bills need more talent around Josh Allen, Joe Burrow doesn't look happy, Greg Cosell

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

NFL analyst  Greg Cosell stops by The Herd to talk about the Eagles poor play as of late, the lack of talent in Buffalo after Josh Allen, Jordan Love and the Packers offense, and more Colin feels Bengals QB Joe Burrow is probably not too happy with the franchise latelySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio. or stream us live every day in the iHeart radio app by searching fox sports radio or fsr you're listening to fox sports radio one hour from now tom brady gregg co-sell in a couple of minutes live on a thursday it is the herd i just saw this story i'm glad my staff alerts me to the very biggest of stories no not michigan football the eagle's positivity rabbit has been yanked from the Eagles locker room. So Nick Seriani, Mr. He totally gets the vibe of the locker room

with a big swing and a miss on the old positivity rabbit. They didn't even get the holiday right. Christmas is in two weeks. And they got an Easter rabbit in there. Come on. So, yeah, yeah, this whole thing feels cringy and a reach. I can't unsee and unhear Sequin Barkley's reaction.

When that goofy thing was inserted in the locker room a week ago. Just watch his body language in his eyes. I have no idea. I'm not into holidays and bunnies and Christmas. I do the Christmas stuff. I got kids, but I'm not really big, like, joyful holiday

person, I guess. So I don't know why. I think that's really the only spot we can pit a big bunny. But I was told it's a vibe bunny. And the vibes are high. So there we go. So you didn't sign off when I'm being in front of your locker.

Definitely didn't sign me. enough from a locker. Not at all. Feels like a Howie Roseman plant to get him whacked eventually. That thing was cringy. Well, whatever. Here's what's not. Greg Kossell, 46 years, NFL Films is joining us. It's a really interesting weekend. We kind of know what

everybody is by this time in the season. Some young players may be getting better. I do think Bo Nix has played a little better. When I look at the bills and the Patriots, New England, I still feel, needs another draft, although they've been great. They've played an easier schedule. What would worry me is if I was a Buffalo fan,

Burrough's probably not going to make the playoffs, right? Mahomes won't make it. Lamar Jackson may not make it. I mean, Herbert's got the worst offensive line, if not AFC and all of football. And yet Buffalo feels like that defense is not good enough. They don't have a downfield consistent receiver. Is it time for a reality check?

What is the film say on Buffalo in terms of overall? I watch the Seahawks. I just see talent. I watch the Rams. I see speed, talent, dexterity. What's the film say on Buffalo's overall talent if you take out Josh Allen? I think you've nailed it. And I think it's been that way for a few years.

They are not one of the more talented teams in the league. You'd be hard pressed to name an impact player that they have on the defensive side of the ball. they certainly don't have a receiving core. If we look at Shakir and say he's their best receiver, he's clearly a number three type. He's very good at that, but he's a number three type. So they're really not that good a football team. And I know that there's been a lot of talk about,

well, this is Josh Allen's ear, and if he doesn't make it, you know, that is so silly. They're just not that good overall from a talent perspective. I mean, look what happened last week. They had the two interceptions, which were both kind of fluky. I mean, good plays, but fluky. And they couldn't stop the Bengals at all. all on third down. And I know Bosa didn't play, and he does give you some pass rush, but they don't

really have an impact player on that side of the ball, and they've got no receiving core. So they're a hard team. They have to scheme up everything on offense and then hope that Josh Allen, in a given game, makes Josh Allen plays. And it's very hard to live in that world every single week, Colin, and you know that. We've talked about this before. Yeah. So Ravens have a different issue. I think their roster is good. I like their coach. Lamar doesn't feel 100%. Jemak and I have gone back and forth on this. The Zay Flowers relationship is good. So Lamar, I think last week, Zay had eight or nine catches. When you look at Baltimore's offense, Lamar doesn't feel like he's got quite the juice, or is it a scheme thing? You know, it's funny, I felt over the last couple years with Monkin that the schemes were very good, and I thought that that really helped Lamar be a really consistent pocket quarterback. He throws the ball very, very well from the pocket.

He's normally a very precise ball location thrower this year since he's been back. And again, I can't speak to what he feels, but I can only tell you that on the tape, he's missing throws that he normally makes. All right. So I don't know if that's, if there's a physical reason. for that. I don't know if there's a mental reason for that, but he's just missing throws he normally makes. And I think my sense, just watching his body language, as I go back and forth with the clicker watching the tape, is he, I don't think he's comfortable with what he's seeing. And that may be a confidence thing. Now you're getting it to a guy's head, which, you know, I can't do. But, you know, he just to me, his movement now to me, which I have always found to be pretty calculated and controlled. I always got the sense when he moved. You probably did as well that positive things were going to happen.

Now when you see him move, I don't get that same feeling. You know, I said it this week with Jordan Love. If you just look at traits, size, arm, movement, you know, he's a very, very good player. You know, he's young, uneven. There have been times I've bailed, times I love him. But I do feel this offense now is clicking. Some of it is health. They lost craft the tight end for the year.

but what does the film say about Green Bay? I feel sometimes they can be a little streaky, but it does feel like an elite offense to me. Well, I think they're a little old school in the sense that they clearly want to run the football as a foundation, and because Jacobs is not an explosive back, you don't get 30-40-yard runs. So the run game is sustaining more than explosive.

And it'll be interesting to see how they continue to work Luke Musgrave into their offense, because when I watched the tape last week, there were a couple of plays where I called in my guys and said, wow, this guy can run. And so I'm curious to see how that gets worked in. But as far as the past game, they do try to take shots down the field, working off the run game. I think that one of the things that stands out with love and why he's playing, I think, pretty well right now and not turning the ball over is he's more willing to be controlled in the throws that he makes. You know, in the past, you nailed it. There was a reckless nature to him at times, and every once in a while that might show up.

But I think if he doesn't see it down the field, he's much more calculated in dumping the ball down, taking a check down, throwing the ball short, allowing the offense to work. So we'll see how this season plays out. He's a good player. The defense is good. They're a solid football team. I want to talk some bears who lost close to Green Bay at Lambo. They faced the Browns this week.

They're a home favorite. how concerned are you with Caleb Williams' accuracy or lack thereof? It's a concern. He misses too many to use a Kurt Warner term layups, and I think those are throws you have to make it. It's hard to understand. To me, I don't know a rational reason for it, because he'll make unbelievable throws,

and he's obviously got a ridiculous arm. The ball comes out beautifully, and he'll make ridiculously good throws and then just miss with really, scatter shot throws, you know, throws you got to make. So I don't know the reason for that, but, you know, he's certainly a very gifted thrower and he can throw really well on the run, but he's going to have to become more consistent with throws that are there. You know, we all see the highlights, we all see the special throws. He's capable of that. To me,

the number one thing in his improvement and development this year, Colin, is the fact that he's not getting sacked very much. And believe me, teams have done studies, over the years that indicate more often than not that quarterbacks that get sacked a lot in college get sacked a lot in the NFL. And that's not been the case for him this year after leading the NFL in sacks last year. So I think that that improvement is big because sacks just take you out of drives. Yep. All right. Let's do our weekly Shadour update. I think, you know, I said this. Dylan Gabriel got the start initially by Cleveland because he had so many college starts. He was just more ready initially to play.

But Shadoor's talents better. That's what I see when I watch him. What do you see? I thought he played very well this week. And you know me well enough to know. I don't make these bold pronouncements about what he's going to do this week or what his future is. I mean, obviously with the way he played last week, and you're seeing a terrific throw, by the way. That was one of the better throws of the week.

He played very, very well. But, you know, you start to see, well, they found their franchise quarterback. Let's let them play more reps. Let's see him play against, you know, good teams. But there's no question what the film showed last week. He was poised. He was calm. He made really good throws.

I think he had a sense of where to go with the football. He played very good football last week. And I thought some of the things that stood out the week before, he overcame last week. He didn't miss throws that were there. He didn't not turn it loose when there were clean looks. I thought last week he played very well. There's no other way around it. That's what the tape tells you.

So the Rams have been on a season-long heater, and what's scary is, they're healthy. Puka, Devante, the tight ends, Kyron, Blake Corum now is getting looks. We know McVeigh, we know their schemes are going to be good, but it just feels like they just get these wonderful chunk plays whenever they need them. Are they the combo of talent scheme?

Do you lean? Maybe they've just drafted. well. We know they have on defense. What does the film say about what the Rams present drive-to-drive? Well, offensively, they made a major change starting week seven, which you don't normally see that kind of dramatic change in the middle of a season. They started playing with three tight ends as a true foundation of their offense. So basically, since week seven, they played probably about 40% of their snaps with three tight ends. And prior to that, they had played no snaps with three tight ends. So McVeval,

They obviously saw something in his team and something in the way he wanted to go about building offense, and he made a change, like I said, you don't see that kind of dramatic change. And let me tell you something, Colin, on first down out of three tight ends, they have been just unbelievably good, not just in the run game, where you might expect, because they've got big bodies on the field, but in the past game as well. And Pukonakuwa, until last week, was not the single wide receiver when they played. three tight ends. And last week, he played in the 13 personnel package for the first time, and he was a factor catching the ball, at a 32-yard reception, out of three tight ends. So I'm

fascinated when I watch a McVeigh. I think Mike McDaniel is like that in many ways with the development in his run game. You know, those kinds of coaches, I think, just have such a great feel for how to build offense. Chargers, Chiefs meet. Kansas City's over a field goal favorite. it. You know, I said this. Everybody keeps telling me, well, they're just a little retool, not a rebuild. They averaged the last couple of years, a touchdown less than Mahomes' early years. And I've said this. If I say name, they're 10 best players today. Not on legacy.

They're 10 best players. And then I ask you to name the Seahawks, Rams, Packers, Lions, Eagles' 10 best players. I think it's, I don't think it's just a, hey, we got Mahomes, we're fine. last couple years they averaged 22 points a game that's yes andy read that's with mahomes with yes i don't think i i think they're better than buffalo but i don't think i think they need more of a rebuild than people think what's the film say yeah and it's funny you mention that about the offense because look we know what mahomes is but one of the things you know and again i'm just watching the tape and one of the things that

i've really noticed and Mahomes is a player that is so special making outside of structure plays. He just has that spatial awareness, that incredible vision on the move, and there's no question for the most part he's played well this season. It's not as if he's played bad football. But the more I watch him every single week, Colin, at times I feel as if their whole offense has become Mahomes making outside of structure plays. They don't really have a consistent run game.

I know a few weeks ago they ran 90 plays and 100. had 30 carries, but for the most part, they don't really have a consistently viable run game. And they don't really seem to have a true pocket pass game that you can count on every week, because most of the really good plays we see every week are Mahomes being Mahomes, being special. And the thing that really stands out to me, it's now been more than a year and a half is Xavier Worthy, who they drafted ran the 4-2-1 at the Combine, there's no vertical element with Xavier Worthy in their offense. And that's very surprising to me because that's kind of, I would assume, why they drafted him. Yeah.

I always thought he was a gadget guy. I never thought he. You know, I think he, I don't know. Well, they obviously thought more. They drafted him in the first round. That's right. So I said this week, I wouldn't be shocked if the Houston Texans made the AFC championship. If Holmes and Burroughs not there.

The whole league is offense, right? All the rules help offense. when I watch the Texans, I don't know what D'Amico Ryan's is doing. People are distressed. Every snap. You can't get first downs. Some of its personnel. You can turn the sound down.

They and the Seahawks, I can watch speed. I can. Are they clever with schemes as well as just talent? Yes. And I think one of the things that D'Amico Ryans is really good at is selective pressure. He's not a high percentage blitzer. But each game, depending on the approach, You know, there are games where on second downhill blitz, but you think, well, that's not a down you normally blitz, but he'll do that in a given game.

But he's so good with his selective use of pressure, even though he's not one of those guys that just dials it up on a consistent basis. But they are really, really good at all three levels. And I would say the area of their defense, that's not talked about enough because we focus so much on Hunter and Will Anderson, deservedly so. are their interior delinement. Their interior delinement are very, very good, and they pose problems. It's very hard to double team guys when you play the Texans, and often they'll line up in five-man fronts, and that leads to what we call 5-0 protection, meaning the O line blocks one-on-one against the delinman or a linebacker who's ever the fifth guy on the ball, and it's very, very difficult. They create these one-on-ones, and on the back end, I think I may have to start.

said this a week ago, but I think Kalyn Bullock this year has been the best post-s safety in the NFL. Wow. Okay. Colt, Seahawks, Philip Rivers is going to get some snaps here. That worries me. Yes. There is, I know they're reckless and I know they're young. But, boy, I watch that defense. I watch that offense. I mean, Sam Darnold, you know, I've always loved him. Give me the elements why that offense is so explosive. Well, what they've done as the season has progressed, as Clint Kubiak's offense, the way he wants to run offense, has taken hold and Donald's become more comfortable in it, is they are very good with under center play action, because they don't run the ball great on a weekly basis, but they are very good with under center play action.

Donald, as you know, pushes the ball down the field. We'll get to that in a moment, but I think you have to say something about their defense, and you started with their defense. They are among the league's best in terms of a trend that is now taken over the league in many ways, And that's playing with what we call big nickel, three safeties as almost their foundation defense. And Nick Eminwari, the rookie from South Carolina, who basically is over 6-3-220, I think at the combine, he ran a 4-3-8. He has become a dominant player as a rookie with his alignment versatility, with his multi-dimensional traits. And they've got a really good D-line. This is a really, really good defense.

But offensively getting back to that, and we'll get to the play here moment. We can actually show it now because this play is very reflective of what they are as an offense and what they've evolved into as Kubiak has developed with Darnel over the course of his season. And you're going to see play action here and then you're going to see the ball being thrown at the intermediate level. This is what they do. They're starting to do it more and more and they're really good at it and we can walk through it because it's really good. So you're going to see Darnel under center and that's critical. The under center element. They're in 12 personnel with two tight ends on the field.

And then they're going to motion the tight end bonner across the formation. And they're doing this for protection purposes. That's where they're going to do it. And as I said, they're using play action now as a major part of what they do. An under center play action is far more effective than shotgun play action in its impact on the defense. And then you're going to have the two receivers. It's only going to be a two-man route concept, which you don't see very often.

It's a deep sail and a crosser. So now what you get is you get the play action, which impacts the defense, and with the tight end motion across, you get seven-man protection. So Darnell can feel very comfortable turning his back to the defense. And now let's just revisit the routes, because you're going to see the sale, the deep sail and the cross by Smith and Jigba. And how the Falcons chose to play this was they matched up man-to-man on the outside with the deep safety.

That's how they chose to play this. Now Smith and Jigma is the one who runs the crosser here, and you're going to see, as we stop it one more time, we're going to see that he's going to be open on the crosser running away from the corner, and Darnold sees it. It's a clean throw. It's a big play. They get a lot of big plays in their past game. This is a 30-yard play.

So this is the kind of thing they're getting better and better at. And because their defense is so good, Donald doesn't have to throw 40 times every game, Colin, as you know. I mean, there have been games he's thrown 20, 21 times because their defense is so good, but they are capable of pushing the ball down the field in this offense. They definitely want to run the ball better, and we'll see if that becomes a factor in giving games as they play more important games. But this is a fun offense to watch because they push it down the field. Good stuff. Greg CoSel is always 46 years, NFL films.

Thanks, Greg. Thanks, Colin. Appreciate it. Yeah. Also a story coming up later on Joe Burrow, which is it's, it's pre-year-old. pretty remarkable. The place he's at mentally right now, I'm telling you, Ian Carson Palmer,

got tired of Cincinnati. It's coming. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How you dropping that and just go in a commercial break? Whoa. He's tired of Cincinnati? Woo! New York Jets.

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We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my... little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

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Joe Burroughs the best quarterback in the league in terms of third down, fourth down. He's just brilliant. I mean, last nine starts, he's eight and one. And we don't like that roster. But Joe Burrow this week brought up playing amidst another tough season. You know, if I want to keep doing this, I have to have fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot and if it's not fun, then what am I doing it for? I'm not sure there was a singular moment or time.

It's just a reflection, reflection on a lot of things that I've done and been through in my career, I think, more than most, and it's certainly not easy on the brain more the body, so I'm doing it again. Interesting. Joe Burrow is not unhappy because the Bengals linebackers can't tackle in space. One of the reasons he's unhappy, he has the cheapest owner in the league and one of

the smallest, most ordinary front offices. And he watches Mahomes, and he watches Stafford, and he watches Jordan Love, and Jalen Hertz and all the talent they have. The Bengals' past blocking grades since Joe Burrow started, I'll read you

them in order. 27th, 29th, 31st, 22nd, 29th, 27th. He has consistently had the worst offensive lines. When you're 8 in 1 in your last 9 starts and you're not having fun,

let me take you back to a line from red in Shawshank Redemption. He said, I have to remind myself that some birds aren't meant to be caged. Their feathers are just too bright. I would add, Otani with the Angels,

Sequin with the Giants, LeBron in Cleveland, Shaq in Orlando, maybe KG in Minnesota. Carson Palmer and Joe Burrow. The franchise, the ownership, the tiny, unspectacular front office, the egregiously bad mostly for Burrow

offensive lines. Some birds can't be caged. The feathers too bright. I could read to the rest of that bite, but you get the point. And you heard Burrow. That wasn't a quote. That was Burrow. That seemed like a happy guy.

Find me a quarterback who's one, eight of nine, and he's that pensive. By the way, do you want to guess how old Joe Burrow is? I did not know this. He looks so young. 31. No, he just turned 29 yesterday. 29, Joe Burrow? And he's watching his knees and his body and his career.

I've said this. That's two years ago, I'd force a trade. I mean, if you were really talented, let's say you were a really, really good salesperson, but you worked at an industry where you couldn't get out of your contract, and the company kept giving you lousy products to sell. And your rivals, guys, you knew you were a better salesman then, were crushing you. They had better products. You just didn't have the blue pill.

You didn't have Lipitor. Oh, geez. Here we go. Okay. That's Burrow. He's sitting watching all these guys, and he can't make the playoffs. Cheapest owner, tiny front office, never aggressive making trades. I do not blame Joe Burrell or any employee.

If you feel trapped, you're watching less talented rivals, peers, contemporaries, because they have better bosses and better management. What have I always said in this business? Don't chase money. Chase management. There's a sea of money. money. There's a finite level of really good people behind the scenes that run networks. Can I ask you as a member of J&C consulting? What would you advise Borough to do in that situation?

Because remember, leaving is tough. You're going to be the villain. KD. was the villain for leaving. A lot of the LeBron, come on. They're burning his jerseys. You'll be the villain in Cincinnati. I mean, do they even have an apple bees? I mean, I got news for you. If he ends up in blank, This really isn't a shot at Cincinnati. It's a shot of the people who own the Bengals. I don't care about Cincinnati. Right, right. The truth is, who cares?

Oh, you're a villain. LeBron was the biggest star in the world. Like, globally, he was like Rinaldo. Okay. Joe Burrell is an NFL quarterback. Like, he's popular, but there's a lot of them. And my take is, I think people in Cincinnati are smart enough to know. He's not getting support.

Yeah. I don't think people are out there. Like, when LeBron left, Seven years in Cleveland, they couldn't get them a second good player. I understood that. I just don't know how Burrow fixes this. This is clearly a plea to ownership. Freaking do something, guys.

Since the Super Bowl, have they done anything, Colin? Like, roster-wise, to get better? They never make big... I mean, you look at the way the Rams are retooling constantly. The Rams got Devonte Adams, Nate Landman. Their drafts are dominant. The manual Forbes, and they never make... Because they have a massive scouting department.

The Eagles have a massive scouting department. massive scouting department. Shear numbers, volume, talent. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's go to Justin Herbert. So they had that rousing win on Monday night football, surviving the Eagles. And then the bad news. Afterward, Herbert underwent precautionary x-rays to make sure his hand wasn't further damage. Remember, he was stiff-arming and safety in space. Here is Herbert talking about those results. yesterday. Yeah, it was pretty sore yesterday,

but I think for the most part, got images done, x-rays, and everything was clean for the most part. It wasn't very effective. But, no, in the moment, I think that was the best thing that I could have done for the team and getting that first down

and doing everything I can to be able to get around that edge. And, you know, there's a world where it is effective and maybe I'm staying on my feet and getting more yards. Listen, they were a four and a half point dog. Now they're a five and a half point dog, so the sharps are pounding the Chiefs. I thought four and a half to like five and a half.

Isn't that your zone where it's like Hammer the favorite? I initially, at the lower number, I like the Chargers. But if it's five and a half has always been in that space where it's like, just take the favorite. Well, Trace Smith was at practice yesterday for the Chiefs, their guard who missed last week. Trent McDuffie's okay. It seems like he's practicing. I'm just going to remind you, the last time the Chargers were on the road, they got smashed by Jacksonville, 356. Justin Herbert's last three games

These are his passing yardage totals 81 yards 151-139 in an overtime game They may get worked here this weekend All right I mean listen I'm rooting charges But I do think if you are going to bet the chiefs

This is the time for them to make the playoffs They win this game All of a sudden the path is there They got a couple jokers left on the schedule Next up Denver Broncos They enter this game against the Who they play? Packers on a 10-game win-street, Colin.

But like New England, their home underdogs this weekend, which is a little surprising to many, not us. In a recent radio appearance, Sean Payton was asked about being a home dog on a 10-game win streak. Here's what he said about that. I don't really pay attention to that until,

I mean, look, we know we're playing a good football team. And so that's something that we have no control over. Look, we've got four tough opponents the next four weeks, three of the four of them are at home. You know, we're counting on our crowd this week. Our last home game with Kansas City was significant, and I'm counting on it being even at a higher level. So, yeah, we're playing a good team. It's interesting game. I mean, the Green Bay comes off, highly emotional game against their rival, the Bears.

What if they're a little flat? That's possible. It's an AFC team. Some people are calling this, not we, but not us, but a potential Super Bowl preview. Yeah. I don't see it. I'm curious, how do you think Bo Nix fares against Micah Parsons and company? Because remember, they really only rush four.

They get to the quarterback. And then in the background, they've got that zone, which is kind of confusing. Caleb did not make any mistakes, but, you know, he was extra cautious. They have a good run game. I don't know how Denver moves the ball easily. I think it's a fair question. scripted drive will be fine. Some of the bears moving the ball, at least twice, was Caleb making an otherworldly play.

Can Bo Nix do? Do you trust him to do that on the road? Well, he's not Caleb Williams. I agree. By the way, the bears did not have a carry longer than nine yards last week. No, J.K. Dobbins, obviously. They got the young kid. I think this lines up for the Packers. We'll see.

We'll see. Final story, Colin. So who's the best running back in the NFL? I mean, I think you would, and I would agree, this season Gibbs. Yeah. Two years ago, CMA, last year. Barkley, this year, Gibbs has been unbelievable. Over 1,500

yards from scrimmage, 16 touchdowns. And McVeigh knows that the Rams defense, they're going to have their hands full with Jamir Gibbs. As an explosive of a player as there is in this league, every single time he touches it, you're like, oh my gosh, he might score.

You know, he's unbelievable in both phases. You see him compete in protection. You know, there was a reason why he was so highly regarded coming out of Bama. And so, he is a special, special player, and they've got a lot of them. Yeah, I think the Lions defense, without

Branch, I think they're going to struggle to make stops. I really do. What about the Rams? Can they contain Gibbs? Now, they shoot Christian McCaffrey twice a year, so they're very well-versed and running backs out of the backfield. You know, landmands have an... I'm telling you, right now, those three

moves, Forbes at Corner, laminate linebacker, Devante Adams. They didn't have a lot of to begin with. This roster... Offensive line. I mean, they just keep hitting home runs. Their offensive line is, I think, very good. The two guards are great. The tackles, I think right tackle.

Havenstein probably is last year. Can't really block the speed rushers. But Rams, and they're going to go get a corner with one of their first picks. Well, listen, they got Atlanta's picking the top 10 as of right now. Remember, from that trade. I mean, they are... Listen, man, Rams are prime. They're in great shape.

You know, there's some chatter. if Stafford wins a Super Bowl does he retire, then you could use future picks to go get a quarterback. Not necessarily Mendoza, but maybe someone existing in the NFL. Who? I floated C.J. Stroud a few months ago. Now, the Texans have turned things around. Remember, Stroud was unhappy there.

We just talked about Joe Burrough. Bengals won't want to give him up, but it is fun to speculate. And listen, the Rams, can you get us in their draft? room so we can figure out the secret sauce i can get me in the draft room sometimes you're gonna leave the uh like the velvet rope but i'm just left on the outside with the unwashed masses just please let me in j mac with the news well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd line news yeah there it we showed it yesterday the top the current draft order

they're they're the top 12 teams eight seven minimum eight may want a quarterback If Dante Moore stays in college and there's a likelihood he will stay in college. Supply is not meeting demand. Mendoza go, there's 700 teams in a quarterback. So if Ty Simpson stays at Alabama, which I don't see him as a first round quarterback, so why not just make $4 million bucks at Alabama? So it is sometimes supply, demand, don't connect. Fascinating. Go look right now at the current draft order.

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Then in America's Game of the Week, Jared Goff leads to the Lions against Matt Stafford and the Rams in a huge NFC showdown. Or it's the Titans versus the Niners or Panthers Saints. Check local listings for the games in your area. Only on Fox. I thought it was a real moment of clarity. One of the reasons I bring Greg CoSell on, I think he makes everybody smarter. Myself, obviously, he makes me smarter. And then the other thing is Greg doesn't pick a side.

He doesn't care. He's not telling you anything other than what the film says. That's why I always ask him at the end, what's the film say? And I think he nailed it on Buffalo. I don't think they're that talented. Here's Greg CoSell. You'd be hard pressed to name an impact player that they have on the defensive side of the ball. They certainly don't have a receiving core.

If we look at Shakir and say he's their best receiver, he's clearly a number three type. He's very good at that, but he's a number three type. So they're really not that good a football team. And I know that there's been a lot of talk about, well, this is Josh Allenjeer, and if he doesn't make it, you know, that is so silly. They're just not that good overall from a talent perspective. Now, yeah, when you're paying your quarterback, I think Josh Allen has the second biggest cap hit in the league. It is harder. I'm not disagreeing with that at all.

But there are certain teams in this league, Rams, lions, Eagles, you just start looking at their talent. The Texans, defense, Seattle, a lot of my favorite GMs. I think it's time. I said this earlier. It reminds me of when John Elway was in Denver, Dan Reeves was a good coach. They had to go to another level offensively. They got Mike Shanahan. And then they got Terrell Davis.

This team doesn't have a trustable wide receiver. How is that possible? College football furnishes you with about 20 a year that can play. I mean, how is it possible? They don't have a defensive guy you've got a scheme for. So they can't stop the run. Some of this, we all blame quarterbacks and coaches. The front office has missed on picks.

And I understand it's hard. I just don't. They don't pass the eye test. It's kind of the opposite with Seattle. Totally past the eye test. We worry about the quarterback in a big spot. With Buffalo, love the quarterback. Everything else is arguable.

Bruce Feldman stopped by earlier. I think Michigan's going to be fine for a lot of reasons. It's one of the top 10 highest endowments. They got a lot of money. A lot of smart people have gone there. They leave and they come back to the games and they write checks. In the NIL era, Michigan is fine. I also think, you know, it's early.

It's December, what, 11th? We don't even bowl games haven't been played. The college football playoff, am I right, December 11th? So the portal doesn't open until January. I think Michigan's an all-time blue-blood job. Here's Bruce Feldman. It's the bluest of blue-blood jobs. Jim Harba won a national title, as we know, just a couple of years ago.

And there's a lot of good young talents, starting with Bryce Underwood. They signed one of the top running backs in the country. There's a lot of pieces to work with. If Penn State didn't hire Matt Campbell, Matt Campbell probably would have been a really good candidate for this job. I don't know what they missed out on. You're Michigan. You're not going to hire Elaine Kiffin anyway. Right.

And I said this earlier with Sharon Moore. the bigger the legend you replace, the wider the search has to be to replace him. Belichick leaves New England. They're like, oh, let's just give it to a guy on staff. Disaster. Harbaugh leaves, let's just give it to the co-offensive coordinator, the former O-line coach. That's not big enough. And I've been watching this my entire life.

Let's give it to the coach's son. Let's give it to this. Let's give it that. Michigan football is a global search job. I mean, you've got to go after, to me, I would go after Brian Daibald and Kalin DeBore. I'd go and find a guy in the NFL that's made the playoffs. Brian Daible may not be a college guy. Here's Bruce Feldman earlier on the candidates.

If they get knocked out early in the playoff, there's going to be immense pressure mounting on Kalin DeBore there. I'm not saying he's going to definitely bail, but it wouldn't surprise me. He looked at and go, you know what, that might be a better fit for me now. you know if like if people are again and that's if he loses yeah it is um and i and i say this respectfully to alabama and the cc um the cc ohio states the only school outside of the cc that feels like the cc i mean go to a message board for the buckeyes during a game if they don't pick up a first down in the second quarter they want the entire staff fired. They're nuts. The SEC is different. Maybe it's in the footprint. You don't have as

many pro sports teams and other things, but it's just, it takes years off you unless you dominate like Saban. So Kalin de Boar to Alabama, to me was a great hire, but an interesting fit. He's a Midwest guy. I would not leave Alabama for Penn State. I would strongly consider leaving Alabama for Michigan. And Michigan's a different. job. They want you to win, but it's not SEC Ohio State level. It's not that level of vitriol and pressure. And Kailen Boar is great. I mean, I'm telling you, the history of

college football, going from Sabin to Kailen to Boar, you can't do better than that. You can't, I mean, Galen DeBore, if you look at his career before Alabama, his winning percentage was like 80% or higher. So I think Michigan Michigan's great. You get the best of everything. There's money. You don't have to worry about capital in the

NIL era. Academics are strong, but not unreasonable. You can get good players in the college. It's not Yale, but they're very strong. It's a beautiful place to live. It's got an unbelievable brand. Our next guest went there, Tom Brady. What a Tom

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