The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 2 - The Yankees are bad

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

Everyone is stealing from everyone in the NFL The Yankees are simply not good for the first time in decades   Guest: Matt RhuleSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:04 It is great to have you in today. Live in Los Angeles, it's the hurt. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. A lot of choices out there. Thanks for making us part of your day. Nick Wright next hour, Matt Rule, Nebraska. He got an eight-year deal. He's got some time to get this thing turned around.
Starting point is 00:02:22 He turned around Temple, turned around Baylor. NFL's rough. NFL was rough for Steve Spurrier and Nick Sabin. hard. Let's be real. Eight-year deal. You think he's got some time to turn it around? Well, I mean, and he's got the transfer portals. Much easier to turn things around now. In Nebraska? You can still go by players. NIL. Warren Buffett? Oh, yeah. Warren Buffett's just funding the Nebraska. I love it. He loves that team. Does he? I've driven by Warren Buffett's house. I've been to Omaha twice, way underrated
Starting point is 00:02:49 city. Wow. I know they play in Lincoln. Omaha's way underrated. They got the nicest Hilton I've ever stayed at. They got a great music venue, and I've driven by Warren Buffett's house. And they got a brickyard steak house. They have a brickyard so you can go. I don't know why I know so much about Omaha and why I remember it. But I remember going to Omaha in the summer and being kind of blown away how cool it was. They had a brickyard area with a bunch of cool restaurants and it was really good. I'm a little jealous of how many more states you've been to than me.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I know you're a little older and you know, you... Yeah, you're an East Coastie and you guys think New York's everything so you don't come visit. When you're a West Coast person, you have to visit every place because... What's the allure of Omaha? Like, what's getting you to Omaha in June? I went to the College World Series, and then I worked for another company, and they sent me there, and it was a lot of fun, and I was blown away by Omaha. For a small American city, I thought it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:42 The problem is we don't get a ton of vacation days, what, three, four weeks maybe? And it's like when you get those, you want to live it up, you know, and go to disrespect to Omaha and the brickyard you're hyping. You're a coastal elite. I'm not a coastal anything. I can go to Omaha and have a great time with America. and normal people. You're out there with the cool cats.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Well, I mean, I want to be around hot people, but at the same time, my family's from the Caribbean, so I tend to gravitate toward water and beaches and Omaha. My family's British, so I tend to gravitate to people with pointy noses and rainy weather. So I like hanging out with the peeps. Next week, I'm going to be hanging out with your next door neighbor and your mailman, knocking them down, having a good time, golfing. Got a couple of golf friends.
Starting point is 00:04:27 You golf? Yes. Not particularly well, but I golf. You want to play a round for some money? I'm not great. Can you just do anything not for money? Is it okay to just have a life and go to the beach and not have to play a volleyball game and have a college scally on the line? Listen, we just play one round for something.
Starting point is 00:04:44 We don't have to, it doesn't have to be money. All I'm telling you is, I've been to Omaha twice. Knocked my socks off. I thought it blew me away how cool of a town it was. Matt Ruhl, Nebraska football coach will validate everything. I just said, be honest, the first time you went to Omaha, you were like, this place is cool. Am I right? 100% right.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It's a great city, great town. Great town. So you got an eight-year deal, so you got time to turn this puppy around. The NFL's never going to give anybody that, okay? I mean, even Belichick now gets heat. The NIL, the transfer portal, actually, I watched Brian Kelly and Lincoln Riley look by half a football team, or however they got them there. Does it feel like, hey, when you got into this business, it took four years.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But in two years, you could change your roster. Is that realistic now? Yeah, I think some of the rules that were lifted, you know, when I went to Baylor, it was, you know, obviously were coming off a scandal. You know, we did a 85 scholarship player in the first year. You could only bring in like 25. Now we brought in 40 new players. And so along with the transfer rules, they've loosened some of the rules in terms of
Starting point is 00:05:56 how many guys you can bring. So you can really turn things around way quicker. So, and when I say by players, I mean, it's the NIL. It's all this stuff two years ago would have been illegal, and now it's understood. Players get compensation. Is it weird? So you've done the old school way in college. You've done pro football.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Now you enter college that feels more like pro football. Is it odd? Is it uncomfortable? How does it? I can't even figure out what's legal, what's not? What is it like now for you? You know, I think being in the NFL, you know, really helped me. You know, you kind of go through this period, you know, there's their free agency period.
Starting point is 00:06:33 And I think what I learned was like, hey, let everyone go handle their business, handle their money. And when they come back, they're kind of signed up. And so getting to the college and now with the NIL, I don't think there's anything wrong with investing in young people. I don't think there's anything wrong with, you know, guys being able to have some money to fly their parents to a game or, you know, obviously people are all different levels of the spectrum. But I'm pretty comfortable with it. I think we just try to deal with it honestly and straightforward. And most young people, I think they respect that. You know, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:07:02 It used to be there were pro football coaches in college. And some people still believe there's a stigma. But I've seen too many college guys go to pro. By the way, you had, you had been an assistant pro. So you're like Tom Coughlin. You've done both. You've gone back and forth. It feels like to me now that the NFL watches Saturday football and steal.
Starting point is 00:07:24 stuff. It didn't feel like that in the 60s. But as I watch pro football, I'm like, oh, I thought, I saw that at Florida State. I saw that at Oregon. Did you feel that when you were in the NFL, that they're watching Saturdays more than they used to? A hundred percent. You know, I remember back at the Giants, Perry Fuel is our DC. And I actually went in and gave a presentation on kind of like the spread offense and zone read and how to defend it because that was the role I had lived when I was at Temple. And it was new to a lot of guys. And I think it's come a long way. And, you know, my first year in Carolina, we started playing some, like, three-down, three-three stack, which is pretty prevalent on defense in college. And everyone kind of mocked it a little bit, like, oh, they're doing this college stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And I'm watching on Sundays now, and there's a ton of people doing it. So everything's cyclical. Everyone's stealing from everybody. You know, we're watching the NFL, and I know NFL guys are watching college. So Washington, UCLA, Oregon, USC, next year coming to the conference, you did very well in the Northeast. You did well in the Big 12. Now you're in the Big 10. stylistically, you're looking at film now, stylistically.
Starting point is 00:08:27 What does the Big Ten do really, really well, Matt? Like, as you watch film and you think, I've been around the country, wow, I've got to figure this out. Yeah, I think the defense is in the Big Ten do a great job, and they just smother you. You know, they're physical, they keep everything in front of you. They're built to play in November and December. You know, when you're in the ACC or the SEC, you're maybe not dealing with the same elements that you're dealing with in the Big Ten, at least as it stands now.
Starting point is 00:08:57 So I think that's the biggest thing for us, you know, and I think you look at the offensive line in the Big Ten, you know, last year, maybe the year before, the most guys drafted. So you're looking at big, powerful physical offensive lines, big powerful defenses, and it's a game built for playing in the weather. The NFL experience is fascinating. Nick Saban figured this out. Steve Spruyer figured this out. A lot of it is, who's your owner?
Starting point is 00:09:20 whereas you can have a conversation with a school president and an athletic director and you're all kind of on the same page. You all have the same vision and goals. A billionaire comes in after a bad weekend. He may have a different opinion than you on the world. When you go, look, are you glad you went to the NFL? Did you gain something from it, though it wasn't viewed as successful win-loss record? Yeah, I really appreciated my time. You know, I hated for my family that they had to move and then move again.
Starting point is 00:09:50 couple years later, but, you know, Colin, I feel like I'm a much better coach now after having been through that. I mean, just to have a chance to coach Christian McCaffrey or Stefan Gilmore or, you know, J.C. Horn, Brian Burns, to be around guys like that, the seat excellence at its highest level. I loved all the people I worked with. And, you know, for me, it was the first time I really had a lot of adversity, you know, so to be able to deal with adversity, to be in the pro game. Like, like, I've, I had a chance to go be on the same practice field with Bill Belichick. I watched him work. And, you know, I'm a different coach now at practice.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I basically just stole what I saw him do and I do it. So it obviously wasn't a success. But I'm proud of what we did. And that's unique to people maybe. But like I felt like we were heading in the right direction. It didn't work out. I'm a way better coach now after having been through all of it. So you got a quarterback Sims from Georgia Tech.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Most of your top players, I look at your depth chart. The guys that get notable players are offensive players. Your background is scoring points quickly. So you had Temple and Baylor. it took a while to ramp up. You got better every year at both, but it took a while to ramp up. Should you be viable this year?
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah, I think so. You know, I told our guys the other day, it usually takes me three years, and I wish I could do it faster. I'm just not smart enough to be able to do it in one year, but there's a bunch of guys on this roster that are seniors, man. So it's either, is it Matt Rule, coach rules year one, or is it your guys is year four?
Starting point is 00:11:18 And if guys like Jeff Sims, if guys like, you know, all the great juniors and seniors we have, if they make it their team, then I think, I think Colin will be a team that people have to deal with, you know, week in and week out. If it's, if it's me, then, you know, better better wait for year two and year three. So our guys are really taking the bull by the horns. One thing about being in Nebraska is these guys, they love the University of Nebraska. They love being cornhuskers, and they want to be the team that gets us back on track. Yeah, I remember going to a game years ago. I was a play-by-play guy out of college for UNLV, and they. got whacked. But I remember Nebraska fans cheering them as they left the field. It's such a unique
Starting point is 00:11:54 environment. It's like the nicest people in the world. But they have expectations. And there's, you know, there's a lot of ghosts around there that won a lot of games and they're very hard on their coaches in a nice way, in a civil way. So if I, if I mean, they are. They say the nice stuff and they're nice people. But by year two, by the end of it, they want some doubles use. The, how do you preface it when you go in and talk about expectations? And I'm a boo. I'm a boo. booster. I'm a fan. I've been going for 40 years. I want to win, coach. What do you tell him? You know, I think people have, you know, they're at a point now where it's been seven or eight years. And I think people are just hungry for a step in the right direction, you know. And so,
Starting point is 00:12:35 and I think people are excited about the things that we've done, you know, the way we've recruited, the way we've tried to get around the state. You know, I know people want to win, but they also want to do things kind of the Nebraska way, you know. Right. Like for me, like being here, Colin is like, It's like college football's version of chicken soup for the soul. Like, this is great people. Tom Osberg came up the other day just to shake my hand and wish me luck in the first game. Like you want to talk to someone like me that loves college football. It's like I'm pinching myself.
Starting point is 00:13:02 So yes, there's expectations and people want us to win. But we also need to kind of go back to playing in the way that Nebraska's used to. We need to be a physical team. We need to be a hard-nosed team. Yes. We can't lose games in the fourth quarter. Finally, you've coached under Coughlin. You've coached against Bella Check and those guys.
Starting point is 00:13:18 and in college. If I said to you, who's a coach you went up against and you came out of that chess match and went, man, that guy's a good coach. That guy's a good coach. Who? You know, man, he's not, you know, I don't know him personally very well, but I always thought Mike Gundy did more with not as much as everybody else. Never had like the four and five star recruiting classes, but like he was going to find a way to
Starting point is 00:13:43 win nine, 10, 11 games every year. And every game that you went into, you know, you thought you were a step ahead of him. and then bang, he was a step ahead of you. I think he's one of the great coaches in college football that doesn't get nearly enough recognition. Yeah, boy, they put a lot of guys in pro football as well, and so that you know he can develop, because to your point, he doesn't get five-star guys.
Starting point is 00:14:01 All right, Matt Rule, Nebraska. Let's see they play, oh, Dion Sanders Week 2, that's a lot of glamour and cowboy hats. Have you looked at their tape? What do I supposed to expect from that game? Well, you know, I'll be honest with you. I've followed it from afar. because they do such a good job of filming everything.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And I think it's good for football right now. You know, I don't, college football can't just be like in the southeast and a couple schools in the north. It's got to be what Lincoln's doing at USC. What, what, Coach Sanders is doing at Colorado, hopefully what we're doing in the middle of the country. Like, this has to be a nationwide thing. And so you can tell from the Dion and his staffer, they're going to recruit relentlessly,
Starting point is 00:14:45 and they're going to have their team ready to play. It'll be a great, great game. To think that Nebraska, Colorado is relevant again, will be on national TV. I think that's pretty cool for the game. Great stuff. Matt Ruhl, Nebraska football head coach. Great seeing you. Good luck. I'll be watching.
Starting point is 00:15:00 The Big Ten next year expands, I think, very favorably. I think it will be a multiple time zone conference. You can watch it all day, and I can't wait for it. Matt, good luck to you. Thank you so much. You bet. You know, I still contend the best, most dominant college football team I ever watched was 1995. I was at the game. Tommy Frazier, Lawrence Phillips. They faced Florida. It was a
Starting point is 00:15:22 Fiesta Bowl, I think. I was sitting in the press box. Florida was great, and they just rolled them. In fact, that was covering Florida for a Tampa TV station. They might have had 60 in that, 50 or 60 points. They were so big. They were just rolled over a great floor. And I mean, just grabbed that SEC team and threw them all over the football field for three hours. How about Lawrence Phillips with a crop top shirt? He was dominant. He had some personal issue. Tommy Frazier is your classic built for college football.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Couldn't defend him. That team in the mid-90s, go look at their scores. Go Google Nebraska 1995. 56 to 6. I mean, they just rolled over everybody. I think the only guy with a comparable college career to Tim Tebow is Tommy Frazier. When you just look at the stats they put up and how many wins, Frazier completely underrated.
Starting point is 00:16:11 He was utterly dominant as a college. football player. Yeah, Vince Young also. You know another guy who had big numbers? We've got to talk multiple years. Matt Linerd. Linerd had massive numbers. Huge numbers. But there's been some...
Starting point is 00:16:26 It's a good discussion, like the top five college football quarterbacks of the last... Well, I would say T-Bow culturally, I would say the best I... I'm going to tell you something. Cam Newton? Yeah, but it's one year, though. You need more than one year. I'm sorry. Cam Newton was unbelievable. I'll get that.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I would say, didn't like him as a pro. quarterback, Tommy Frazier and Vince Young. Now, culturally, Tim Tebow, Tim changed the whole program. Dude, Vince Young, go look at Vince Young's high school tape. No, I'm not joking. It may be the greatest high school tape I've ever seen. He looked 38 against like 16-year-olds in Texas high school football. We're like, you know, the kids are big.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Oh, yeah, Vince Young, well, two-year starter. Yes. I watched him beat Michigan and USC. Out here west, and I just couldn't stop him. Just a machine. Yeah. So, again, didn't love him as an NFL quarterback. He ran a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yeah. If you're looking single individual seasons, then Cam and Vince Young are in there. But I think for college career. Tommy Frazier. I think it's Frazier and Tebow, I think. Now, someone, maybe, Linerd, I haven't seen all his numbers. How many years did he start? Three, three?
Starting point is 00:17:37 Okay. Because he came back. Yeah, Liner was, I mean, he had a, their team with Reggie Bush. Oh, it was fun. It was Cirque di Soleil. It was just crazy acrobatic players. Good stuff. Nick Wright's stopping by.
Starting point is 00:17:51 See, Nebraska, who likes Omaha? Me? Not him. I never said. By the way, all these people just sent me messages about the zoo in Nebraska. You don't even reference. They apparently have a world-renowned zoo in Nebraska. I didn't have time to visit.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I was partying on the brickyard. I think it was called the brickyard. The brickyard is like a NASCAR race. By the way, you thought Wisconsin Dells was a mall. You know, the heartland is a bit of a hole in my game. Well, it's not. 70s baseball is a hole in my game. Some people, the heartland.
Starting point is 00:18:22 A lot of times I tell the pilot of my private jet, let's pull over in the Midwest and meet with the people. All right, Senator Cowherd. That was really obnoxious. I'm just joking. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeard radio app.
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Starting point is 00:21:26 You didn't know much about Omaha, but the advantage to having space and in a more reasonably priced area is you can build more stuff. Like I was looking at the stadiums the other day and they were talking about like the best and worst NFL stadiums. And like MetLife was like 28. They're one of the worst. And so I don't necessarily think it's bad. It's just boring. For $1.6 billion, there's nothing about it that's memorable. It's a generic stadium. Do you know what you could get for $1.6 billion in Michigan or in Tampa or in Dallas or in, I mean, I think Jerry World probably cost somewhere between 1.6 and 2 billion. And that thing has got everything shy of a nightclub. And it may have a nightclub.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So the downside, and by the way, MetLife Stadium's located in this like Meadowland Sports Complex with a horse track and it's awful. And you can see dead mobsters in the marshes and the freeways. It's just, well, I mean, it's just not an appealing. You drive up to it. It's just junky. And it's like, well, that's what you get in New York. You just got so many people in so little space and it's got marshes around it and freeways. And it looks like, oh, Jimmy Hoffa's over there.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Technically, it's in New Jersey, yes. Well, I mean, it's just, it's in this weird sort of area. And it's like, well, what are you going to do? You know, you can't put it over here. You can't put it over there. So the downside, we're very, very lucky that in Los Angeles, we have these iconic arenas. You know, Rose Bowl, the Coliseum. Well, Stan Cronkey is the richest owner in sports.
Starting point is 00:22:54 That thing had a $3 billion overrun, and SoFi is magnificent. The hardest part of Sofi was finding the room in Los Angeles because real estate is so expensive. So the great thing about, you know, I noticed that when I was out east and I went a couple the time to MetLife Stadium, I'm like, this is just not appealing. Where are you going to put the stadium? I mean, it's a reason two teams have to share the stadium in L.A. and New York. There's a reason. If you had another team in Chicago, you'd have to share the stadium.
Starting point is 00:23:22 There's just not enough real estate and the stuff that's there costs a fortune. So that's the great thing. If you look at a lot of the great stadiums, a lot of them are in areas where you've got a little room, got a little elbow room. I go all the time. I go, you know, I'll go to Salt Lake. My favorite NBA arena is the jazz. arena.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Vivian. Well, and now it's Delta Center and it goes, you know, Delta's big advertiser there, big hub. But the point being is, it is you can build so much for a reasonable number. They built MetLife for $1.6 billion. It is generic. I don't think it's a bad stadium. It's just literally personality free.
Starting point is 00:23:59 It is completely unmemorable and generic. And that's what $1.6 billion gets you in a parking lot next to a horse track. in a couple of weird, a mall with marshes and freeways. It's not a, I mean, no fan base in America pays more and gets less than New York. Beers, parking,
Starting point is 00:24:21 tickets. And what do you get? Underachieving teams. So when they, I mean, when's the last, this is quite the rant? Well, I mean, when's the last New York team that overachieved?
Starting point is 00:24:32 The Sanchez Jets with Rex Ryan? There were no expectations a decade. All those pro teams. One. I'm sure, listen, given more time, I'm sure we could come up with someone. I'm not knocking New Yorkers. What I'm saying is, the New York Giants over the United States. You were talking about Omaha, and I'm saying the advantage to Omaha and all these towns that are middle of America, I mean, look what, Lambo.
Starting point is 00:24:53 They just want, you know, that's a gorgeous state. Lambo is like arguably the best. It's in little tiny tower. They have space. Does anybody, not to puncture holes in this, but does anybody go to stadiums because they're gorgeous and beautiful? No, but if I'm paying all this money, shouldn't I get a better experience? Well, I'm going to watch a team. Like, yeah, overpriced hot dogs, that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:25:13 You know, I'm just, I want the team to win. I think going to Sofi, I've gone to Sofi three times. SoFi's pretty awesome. It's also like the newest stadium in America. I've been to Jerry's Stadium. It does matter. If you keep asking me for season tickets and parking and beers are 13 bucks, you're damn right.
Starting point is 00:25:31 The stadium experience matters. MetLife Stadium experience. It's nothing against the teams. It's generic. But that's what 1.6 billion gets. you in that part of the country. So everybody always thinks, oh, the big cities, the big cities, it's harder to live. There are more money, more taxes, more expense. It's hard to live in New York. It's not hard to live in Omaha. It's not hard to live in Wisconsin. They love their winners.
Starting point is 00:25:57 We were doing this exercise at dinner last night. If you could live anywhere in America, where would you live? And we had to remove California because we love California. And my family was like kind of confused it. Like where do you go? Like we lived in Pennsylvania. We lived in New York. We have relatives in Florida. Like I don't know. My wife was like Idaho, Montana. I was like, you've never even been there. It's like, come on. I'm not by the way. I just, this is all on the athletic article on the best stadiums. And a lot of them are in smaller markets because it's, I mean, do you know what, it isn't Buffalo building a new stadium? If you put that puppy in the Meadowlands Park, it's $7 billion. You couldn't.
Starting point is 00:26:38 not build it. You couldn't get funding for it. Thank God, Stan Cronkey wrote some checks or SOFI. That's why SOFi is amazing, the wealth of our owner. I mean, Steve Ballmer, again, the richest owner in the NBA is in Los Angeles, Steve Ballmer. His net worth is more than 28 other NBA owners combined. So Ballmer's going to build a gorgeous arena. You're going to write some checks for it. He bought it from James Dolan. Stan Cronky. The only reason we have great facilities is we have super rich owners, a lot of them techie and real estate, which in this city is expansive and a big deal. You learned something new about people every day. I didn't know you romanticize stadiums as much as you do.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Didn't everybody when we were kids? I love going to stadiums. I took my kids to a new baseball stadium every year for like seven years. I do remember going to the Skydome in Toronto when it had opened like two years earlier. And it was amazing. It was cool. But I'm just not wired like that. I don't think about the stadium.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I think about the experience. It's like we were there at SoFi to see Taylor Swift. You know, we were at this stadium to see the Lakers. I'm not saying it's the most important thing. But like when I go to Staples in L.A., they have a great place to park. I can get in, out fast. They have great food. They have a place I can go at halftime, hide and have a cocktail.
Starting point is 00:27:52 The seating is great. They don't have, you're not, I mean, it's a lot of sweets. I'm always like, I go to Dodger Stadium. Beautiful. Now, getting in and out of Dodger Stadium probably keeps me away. Getting in and out of Staples is easy. getting in and out of the Coliseum's easy getting in and out of the Rose Bowl is harder
Starting point is 00:28:09 so I do think about the experience how long to get in am I blowing my whole day here because I'm in parking in a jam for six hours am I rare here or nobody else thinks about this silence radio silence back here for music in the peanut gallery am I wrong on this you don't think about that stuff the quality
Starting point is 00:28:27 my daughter wanted to go buy a present for somebody and I said go to a Dodger game and she went to an afternoon Dodger game the experience the food absolutely elevated. Beautiful ballpark on a 75 degree summer day in L.A. If it's 109 degrees
Starting point is 00:28:43 in humid in St. Louis and you got bad seats, you don't think the experience is different? You know what? Is it a good experience that met life when you go there and the Jets beat the Patriots? That's a great experience. Well, it doesn't happen much. So good luck with that. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
Starting point is 00:28:59 This is the herd line news. I'm not going to apologize for wanting good seats in a nice stadium. What's wrong with that. You shouldn't? Of course it matters. Look at this guy. Don't go cheap on your stadiums. Wow. All right. So we're talking about New York. Let's stick with Aaron Rogers and his high praise for Garrett Wilson. Rogers has linked him or likened him, sorry, to Devante Adams, his former All-Pro team. That's a lot. Last night on Hard Knocks, former Jet Brailin Edwards, remember him? Yeah. Asked Rogers about Wilson and here's what he had to say.
Starting point is 00:29:29 That's 17. I'm a special. Hey, bro. I was so quick. missing wrong shoulder. He gets out of his break. On the out down there? Yeah. But did you see him grab it and pull it forward? Yeah. Yeah, he's special.
Starting point is 00:29:45 He gets it. Best part of he's a good dude. He's a good kid. He cares about it. You hear that? Sanchez was in on that conversation. Good dude. Sanchez or Aaron Rogers? Well, they both find people. I just text one of them and not the other.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yes, yes, yes, yes. So when Randall Cobb, at the outside of the show, was talking about Jets wide receivers not having their act together, we know he wasn't talking about Garrett Wilson. Okay? Corey Davis? Denzel Mims? I thought, they still have Mims?
Starting point is 00:30:15 I think he's still on the wrong. Maybe they should have dumped him by now, but anyways, Gertz, Garrett Wilson, you're doing a fantasy draft, right? The Fox fantasy draft? I'm not. Wes said you're doing it. What?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Your social media guy. I'm not doing the, I don't do fantasies. I have fantasies. They're not about football players. Oh, dear. I'm not doing fantasy football. Speaking of wide receivers, Seahawks got some bad news yesterday, real crummy. Their rookie, Jackson Smith Najigba.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah. We'll have surgery to repair a broken bone in his wrist, putting his week one status in doubt. Here's Pete Carroll on the rook. He's going to get surgery. He's with a hand specialist, kind of a slight fracture that we just want to make sure that we do the right thing to ensure that he gets back as soon as possible and as safe as possible. We're going to be optimistic about it. You know, three, four weeks.
Starting point is 00:31:04 We'll see what happens. No, no, yeah. But we'll see what happens. We'll stay optimistic. We'll see what happens. He's good player. Didn't he get banged up a little bit at Ohio State? A little bit?
Starting point is 00:31:15 He got dinged up. I think a hamstring last year missed a lot of the season. I'll just say this. My daughter happened to injure her wrist at basketball camp. She's been in a cast for three weeks. Supposed to get it off Friday. There's zero chance Jackson said that the jigba is going to have surgery on his wrist and play for week one. Well, he said there's no way.
Starting point is 00:31:32 He said it was a small fracture. and it's a pro athlete. A pro athlete. Who has doctors... Doing pro athlete things. Blocking, catching... Well, I mean, he's got the best doctors. They're hovering over him.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Also, he's a grown man. He's probably healing fast. He barely played last year. What are you rushing him back for? Say, hey, go to your role. We'll have back week three. There's no rush. It's a marathon, not a sprint.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Metcalf and Lockett or help. This would be silly. Didn't say they were going to rush him back. There's no reason to rush him back. I don't know, man. He's a good player, though. I'm always air on the side of caution. You do?
Starting point is 00:32:02 since when? When it comes to injuries of players in football, not myself. I just let it all hang out. All right, finally. Baker Mayfield officially named QB1 of the Bucks yesterday. He won that thrilling preseason battle with Kyle Trask. Baker will now start for the fourth team of his career and will hope to turn things around in Tampa.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I can't believe he's got that financial thing. That's brutal. I expect to be the starter. I know how talented I am. I know what type of leader I am. now it's just it's time for the real thing so we're about to have the real games and everybody's excited here I feel like I was comfortable enough within the system command of the offense and able to get guys in right spots and yeah it's not
Starting point is 00:32:44 saying anything against anybody else but I just feel like I'm in good command of the offense right now it's a special honor living out a dream but now's not the time to be satisfied so yeah I think all of our guys are ready to push through this regular season and see where we go Baker Mayfield opens in Minnesota I'm sure another city with a great stadium, right? That has the number one stadium. Minnesota? In the heartland.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Number one stadium was Minnesota. I haven't been there. I've heard it's amazing. Wait, wait. In the country or in the heartland? No, no, no. The number one NFL stadium was Minnesota. I think Lambo was three.
Starting point is 00:33:18 What is so five? It was up there. It's up there. But by the way, you can afford in Minneapolis and, you know, Green Bay. You can afford cost overruns and... Because real estate is not as price. Well, I just think it's very hard in these big cities. you keep soaking people on taxes and then go ask them to build a stadium.
Starting point is 00:33:38 People are like, no, it's hard enough to live here. It's expensive enough. It's hard to get public funding in Los Angeles, California, anywhere. It's hard. I think it's easier in a small town when the city feels connected to that one pro team. I think it's much easier in, you know, a Cincinnati or a San Antonio or to connect with people and say, hey, like, we're not going anywhere, pass a bond. I don't know, it feels easier.
Starting point is 00:34:04 You're not going to get that funding in Los Angeles. I'll tell you that. I'm just going to power down and let you go on this stadium stuff. You are fired up about it. I like hearing this. I don't have much to add because I hate this. I just don't really care that much about stadiums. Well, a lot of people care about uniforms.
Starting point is 00:34:19 I don't care about that. People collect baseball cards. I don't care about that. Not anymore. But the experience matters. People play fantasy. I don't care about that. Come on.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Fantasy football. I do not like that. Love going to a new stadium. I love just going to a new stadium, finding a beer garden, a good place to have a burger, good sightlines. Are you a beer garden guy? Are you a beer garden guy? I am where the people are. Resonate with the people.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Okay. Are we done with this goofy segment? J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. Yeah. It is funny about that.
Starting point is 00:34:58 The first time I went to Yankee Stadium, it smelled like, it was an old stadium. And two guys behind me are getting into a fight, you know, like getting all roughed up. And the one thing my takeaway was, I was hungry, but there was nowhere in the stadium to eat and watch the game simultaneously.
Starting point is 00:35:14 If you left, you didn't watch the game. And I was like, how can New Yorkers not figure that out? Like you go to Dodger Stadium. There's 25 places to eat and I can watch the game. And so the new Yankee Stadium, everybody complains about, but at least I can eat and watch the game.
Starting point is 00:35:30 If I'm going to go to a game and I'm going to be there for four and a half hours. You've got to give me something being on a hot dog, right? Is that too bushy? I like, so I have to have a, if I bought season tickets, I have to have a hot dog every night. I got no sushi, I can't get a crab cake. It's the summer. You got to give me something.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I don't think that's bougie. I think it's like if I'm going to. Sushi at a sporting event is not boozy. What am I going to have a hot dog every night? Hamburger. Every night. Corn dog. I'm taking my beautiful wife.
Starting point is 00:35:56 You think she's going to eat a corn dog? Anne loves a good funnel cake. Come on. Sushi, really? Oh, yeah, it's so over the top. Nobody eats sushi. That's coastal elite if I've ever heard it. By the way, I never had sushi until post-college.
Starting point is 00:36:11 That's, like, I'm not a coastal elite. Don't try to pin me down in that crew, man. I didn't have sushi though I was like 25 years old. Let me tell you something. My wife always uses a term. Set the tone. We're going to go out tonight. Set the tone.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Send me a cute text. Set the tone. I bring a funnel cake and a corn dog to Ann. I have crushed the tone. That's heart. Baby. Funnel cakes and corn dogs. Every night, if I'm a season ticket holder. Every night.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I can't once bring over a nice filet of fish sandwich or something nicer. Where you go, McDonald's? Filet of fish? I cannot believe you. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio
Starting point is 00:36:53 app. He's by Carmen. I'm Dan Byrd. We have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice a one. week, every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with new episodes to not only look back at what happened, what you need to do at that minute, and also look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world. That's right, Dan.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Every week, we're going to scour the waiver wire to find the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup. Sit, starts. Fantasy football players' rankings to get you ready to dominate the competition. Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike Harmon and me, me Dan Byer, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcast at wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:38:02 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,
Starting point is 00:38:17 this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.
Starting point is 00:38:40 The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Cliverts Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or we're you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking.
Starting point is 00:39:13 What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at It podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode, with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so you know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.
Starting point is 00:39:43 We also have AIDS on the table right now. They're finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Saturday, it's baseball night and a marathon Fox. Catch Aronado on the Cardinals as they look to play spoiler against Bryce Harper and the Phillies, or the Cubs take on the Pirates or Rangers Twins. It all goes down Saturday at 6.30 Eastern on Fox. Check for the game in your area. The Yankees are not listed there because they've now lost officially nine straight games. In fact, let me read this. According to Elias Sports Bureau,
Starting point is 00:40:35 the Yankees' last 10-game losing streak was in 1913. That's insane. It's a bad Yankee team. That means they're going to point fingers. Here's Aaron Boone after another loss. Nine straight losses. How would you characterize the morale of the room right now?
Starting point is 00:40:52 Pretty down. But we got to, you know, we got to fight through it. I mean, that's, again, we, you know, I think we're doing and saying the right things. But it's, you know, we're in it to win it. And when you get beat over and over again and they're in the middle of a tough season, it makes it hard. But it's no fun walking in that locker room getting beat every night.
Starting point is 00:41:17 The Yankees have not been bad. They haven't been bad for 31 years. Notre Dame went 15 years without winning a bowl game. The Lakers have had mostly a dreary decade. Michigan football had back-to-back coaches. that didn't work. Steve Jobs left Apple. It caved.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Disney's had a rough three years. The Patriots are now the fourth most talented team easily in their own division. The Yankees have made the playoffs 24 of 29 seasons. Insane. The only Major League Baseball team even close is the Braves, and they're not that close. Even a team that has multiple World Series rings in the last 20 years, the Giants have only made the playoffs nine out of 29 season. Yankees fans are a bit spoiled.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Alabama football, USC football, have had bad decades, right? Like it happens. The Yankees made one big mistake. I'm a baseball casual, but John Carlos Stanton never made sense. He's never available. They already had Aaron Judge. They didn't have to pay all a salary, but a lot of it. The Yankees problem appears to be, not that they buy good players, but they don't combine that
Starting point is 00:42:27 with developing good players as well. The Braves buy an occasional first baseman or outfielder, but they develop most of their stars. The Dodgers' R&D research and development is through the roof. They develop their own guys. But in the last 15 years, maybe look at the Yankee scouting department, who's entered it, how long they've been there. Name an ace they have drafted and developed.
Starting point is 00:42:51 One ace. I mean, just look at the Dodgers. You've got multiple. Clayton Kershaw. Walker Bueller, Urius, Dustin May, who's right now injured, the big kid, floppy red hair. That's what they do. Braves do the same thing. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I mean, the John Carlos Stanton acquisition, I didn't really get. They had judge. They had power. I think he's made one all-star game. He's hitting in the 100s now 190 or something like that. It's just they don't have enough good players. It's okay to buy Miami and the Warriors do a really good job. they draft and develop their players, but occasionally go trade or buy a really good player.
Starting point is 00:43:31 And Andrew Wiggins, they get an Andre Aguadala, they got Bogot at one point. Miami does a great job of that. You know, they draft and develop, bam, then they go get Jimmy Butler. Miami and Golden State do a great job. You don't want to be Brooklyn where you buy all your stars. You don't want to be the Packers where you get no stars, almost no free agents. It's a really nice balance. and I just don't, I don't see the Yankees as having great balance drafting and developing
Starting point is 00:43:58 like lively high-end arms. I don't see it. But again, I'm a baseball casual. I don't sit and read baseball America all day. But that's what it feels like to me. You can blame Brian Cashman, but he's got multiple trophies. You can blame the players, but you are what you are. Seems to me they just don't draft and develop enough good guys.
Starting point is 00:44:20 You can't just buy everybody. Garrett Cole's been worth the money. Aaron Judge is the one guy they drafted and developed. That's their guy. They did a great job with him. Torres is okay. But they just don't do it like the Braves and the Dodgers do. And part of it is the Yankees have made the playoffs 24 or 29 years.
Starting point is 00:44:37 People are spoiled. Notre Dame went a long time after Lou Holtz. Notre Dame, the face of college football for 50 years. After Lou Holtz, they missed on a lot of coaches. It wasn't until Brian Kelly came, and Brian Kelly got nothing but heat for years. And then everybody finally realized, yeah, he's really, really good. Now he's going to go in a natty eventually at LSU. Notre Dame went three or four coaches couldn't get it right.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Notre Dame. Notre Dame once hired a high school football coach, Jerry Faust. This stuff's not easy. But the Yankees continue to be really good. This is the first awful year, and I think 31 years we looked it up this morning. They're not bad very often. This is rare. It's okay. I also don't know this to be true, but it feels like this.
Starting point is 00:45:24 It feels like about 10 years ago, the Yankees had the yes network. And it like produced 400 million bucks of revenue a year. And they could just go buy whoever they want. But it does feel like now the Mets have more money because they have a richer owner than the Yankees. The Dodgers appear to have more money. They're going to go buy Otani, I would guess. The Braves are well funded. So is Houston. It doesn't feel like. the Yankees get everybody they want. And if you're a player, the taxes are higher, the pressure's more. Players now can live anywhere and make a lot of money. Maybe it's just not attractive to the free agents on the fence unless you massively overpay for them. That could be true. But the John Carlos
Starting point is 00:46:06 Stanton move doesn't feel like it paid off. They already had judge. And to their credit, they drafted and developed judge. Deserved credit for that. Don't do that a lot with their pitchers. Don't. But again, I'm a baseball casual. you're a baseball casual. You're a real casual. That's okay. We all pick our sports we like. I'm a NASCAR casual.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I kind of know it, but I don't get it. It's okay. I think you've got to kind of narrow down your domain of expertise, really drill down deep. Yeah. NFL, college football, NBA, that's my stuff. Those are three, you know, and you can't do them all. You know, like we got lives.
Starting point is 00:46:42 We have families. I can't watch, you know, Yankees a game in June. I just. If I said to you, oh, oh, give me the. the pitchers they've drafted and developed. I got nothing. And I know I live in Los Angeles, so I look at the Dustin Mays, the Clayton Kershaws, Urius, Walker, Bueller, he got injured. But it's like it feels like the Dodgers. And by the way, they had this other guy,
Starting point is 00:47:04 their closer for years. It was like a, I was like a, Kenley Janssen. Like, I think he was like, there was a catcher. And he became a, I don't even know if he was a pitcher. And they developed him into a great closer for years. So it's hockey. Are you? on hockey? I like vodka on ice. That's what I like on ice. Another podcast from some SNL, late night comedy guy, not quite.
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Starting point is 00:47:56 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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