The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right and wrong, college football playoff, Steve Sarkisian

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

In Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong, he hits on his predictions for the Philadelphia Eagles but admits he missed on the Kansas City Chiefs Colin talks to Texas Longhorns head coach Steve Sarkisian about his team season, the college football playoff, Arch Manning, and moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We appreciate it. Matt Hasselbeck, 18 years in the league, five minutes out. I don't know what to say about Denver, but they make a lot of big plays in the fourth quarter. And I don't know what to say about the Chicago Bears, but they play really well in the fourth quarter. And both Denver and Chicago are led by a very young quarterback that's a bit uneven. But there is a absolute truth in. Caleb's not taking many sacks, and Bo Nix isn't either. And you play in front of the sticks, and you've got a pretty good defense behind you,

You win a lot of close games in the NFL. Here we go. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, and a Monday. Where Colin was right? The Micah Parsons trade. Yes, it was good for Green Bay, but I kept preaching. It's also great for Dallas. They were an atrocious run defense.

And by picking up Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams, Dallas now has a much more complete defense and is still number two in the NFL and quarterback pressures. Sometimes you have to trade really good players. You know, Lakers let go of A-D. Lakers got Luca. I don't know, worked out pretty well. I like Micah. He was a better fit for a better complete roster in Green Bay than Dallas resigning him. And I think both points have been proven. Where Colin was wrong. I thought Lane Kiffin would stay at Old Miss through the playoffs or go

pro because the LSU job is really political. The governor stepped in. You know, I don't think it's about the pressure. Lane Kiffin's fine with pressure. And yes, LSU is a better job, but I just thought it was so messy that Lane would probably say, you know what, I'm going to finish this out, and I wouldn't even have been surprised after Old Miss. He would have taken himself off the board if they finished number two or three in the country, done TV for a year and waited for the perfect job. I mean, there's a great college football job or three available every year. So I was wrong. Where Colin was right?

I didn't think Aaron Rogers should have gone to the Steelers, and I think he looks like a beaten man. This is a head coach and an organization devoted to defense, and you can blame Aaron all you want, but they cannot figure out how to run the football. What is this, the seventh or eighth straight year? So this is an organization that can't figure out offense. And I thought Aaron should have gone to the Vikings or retired or be a broadcaster. I think all three would have been better than Pittsburgh, but it looks like we said it would look like.

Where Colin was wrong. Kansas City Chiefs, 6 and 6, probably not a playoff team. They feel disjointed. Dallas was the better team. The O line remains mid. The run game remains mid or less. I figured Andy Reed and Mahomes would figure it out. Houston next and the Texans defense is a complete.

A complete handful, just not the year for Kansas City. I remain loyal. I was wrong. Where Colin was right. Ohio State did everything we said they would do last week. I said they're going to beat Michigan. They're going to dominate them. They doubled time of possession.

They held Michigan to minus eight yards rushing in the second half. I think Ohio State's got the better staff, the better personnel. And I thought they played conservatively. I said they'd win 30 to 13. I thought this game could have been worse. Michigan was held to 163 yards. Ohio State had three times that. They held Michigan to one of 10 on third and fourth down.

I think this Ohio State defense is in a handful of the best college defenses I've ever seen. Where Colin was right? When the Lions lost Ben Johnson, I said, do not hire in-house. The greater the coach you lose. the wider your search has to be to replace it. Michigan's finding this out. This is a team now, Detroit, that played it safe, played it comfortable. The offense now, 1 in 5 when they're under 30 points.

19th today on 3rd down. Can't get 4th down right. I got nothing against Johnny Morton, but they have 43 punts this season. They had 45 all last year. They are not. Personnel's the same. The results are not. where Colin was wrong.

The Colts, I thought they were a serious contender. I thought they were a team that could win two or three playoff games. The Soss Gardner trade, brilliant, I thought. Now he's hurt. Daniel Jones, listen, the low ceiling is clear. They've scored 20 or fewer points in their four losses. You know, the better the defenses they play, the more mistakes they make, and I was wrong. where Colin was right?

I said when Sabin left, getting Kalin DeBoer, that's as good as you can do in college football. Kalin DeBore has made the playoffs. Yes, Alabama's not as dominant as they were in the Sabin era. Because Bama doesn't have Ohio State money or Notre Dame money. They don't have that kind of NIL power and flex like Oregon. But this is about as good as you can do when you lose a legend to get Kalin DeBore. Notre Dame can't run the ball.

They're not as dominant as they used to be. They don't have as many good players as Georgia or Ohio State. But to deny the truth, which is Kaelin DeBore is an A-plus-plus head coach. But the reality of the NIL era is Bama doesn't look like Bama used to. Where Colin was right? I didn't buy Texas A&M all season. They got a scheduling quirk. They didn't have to play Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss, or Oklahoma.

So they beat up on teams. I mean, they even fell behind. at home to South Carolina. Texas beat him, dominated the second half, Arch Manning was strong, they're not even going to play in the SEC championship. I thought they were good, but if you're ranked top three,

you're supposed to be special. I didn't see that all year. Here's a bitter Mike Elko after the loss of the horns. We didn't play the way we needed to play. Can we close the door and run a professional press conference, please? My gosh. Sorry. The door was closed to Texas A&M winning an Addie.

Colin Wright, Colin wrong, let's bring on Matt Hasselbeck 18 years in the NFL. Love him on a Monday. You know, I've rolled my eyes at Jerry Jones a lot. I'm just writing an apology letter to him. I watch that game. Matt, that's a real defense. I mean, you can't run on him now. DeMarvian overshone. I mean, they knew it.

They weren't watching practice. They knew what they had. He was a high pick. I don't know. I look at Dallas right now. What do you make of it? It feels like a top 10 team in the league. Top 10?

Listen, they're trying to be top seven in the NFC so they can make the playoffs. No, I think one of the things you've seen with Dallas in the last few years is scheme fit with coordinator fit. You know, like Dan Quinn was the de-coordinator. Then Mike Zimmer was the de-coordinator. And when you have all these like different turnovers, three different coordinators in such a short amount of time, you have to make sure that the guys fit the scheme. that you're trying to play. And you've got to be sure that they're cool with it.

Like Dan Quinn was all about turnovers, all about get the ball, trained up by Pete Carroll. Hey, corners, if you want to jump a route, jump a route. They're like, will they hit us for a couple big plays? Sure, but we might score on defense. Like, that was the mindset that they have. And every defensive coordinator has a different mindset. Some guys are stopped the run first, no matter what.

Some guys are rushed the passer and stop the run on your way to rushing the passer. So getting the people right, I think is really important. And I do think you're right. owe Jerry Jones an apology because you probably trashed him for the Mike Parsons trade. And here we are. They're playing great football, especially on offense. I would love to see some more turnovers from the defense, though.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the NFC playoffs, we're showing our television audience this. Bears, Rams, Eagles, Bucks, Seahawks, Green Bay, San Francisco. I mean, San Francisco gets a timely buy. Green Bay has fixed their offense. Yeah, I mean, I'm not good enough at math to figure out that tie scenario. But like it's funny when the tie happened, everyone rolled their eyes like, oh, it's a tie. Now it could come to really help a team like Dallas or Green Bay.

Yeah. So I got a text last week and somebody said, oh, Hasselbeck's going to have to say something nice about the Bears now. And I said, he likes some. He just, he's not building a statue. But it does, it does feel different going to Philly and winning. Like that that's, that's one of those games you could control and lose. I was impressed. Were you? not. Listen, I love the bears. I'm not 100% sold on the quarterback. That's where my hesitation is. And that doesn't mean that I'm saying no on him. Listen, the bears are awesome. I've been saying Ryan Paul's unbelievable job. You got Ben Johnson, even better, probably coach of the year. What they've done up front in the trenches is impressive. I mean, running the ball. Looks like Walter

Peyton and Matt Suey out there, like just slicing and dicing these guys. Up front, they've won it. And listen, December football, it comes down to. elements, bad weather, like, can you take your game on the road? The bears are built to do that. Now, I also said they hadn't played anybody. Let's see how they do against Philly. How'd they do against Philly? They ran for like 200 and something yards. Guess what? That's not an anomaly for them. They rush for 200 yards, like it seems like all months. They're fine. They're good. Here's my thing. Their quarterback has to be better with accuracy, better with ball placement. Like, that's the next step for him. Last year I said, you need to take less sacks. I need better body language.

need you to be a better leader and kind of protect the team. He's done all those things. Like hats off to him and hats off to Ben Johnson. But again, the schedule will get tougher. Do I think they'll be the one seat at the end of this? No, I don't. Do I think they're a really good team? Yeah, I do.

So I keep hearing this about the Bears in Denver. Well, how good are they? Well, I watched Denver last night. First of all, players know when you're facing a great team. Washington's on a backup quarterback. They're not a great team. Denver's got much better personnel. I know I'm not supposed to be.

Denver's defense didn't play particularly well, but he did the Rams yesterday. I don't know how good Denver is, but winning these games the way they keep winning them the same way. Like Sean Payton said, we didn't escape with a win. We won. How do you view it? Well, I think head coaching matters and messaging matters. And the fact that Sean Payton's been there and done it, you know, he's not up there apologizing.

He controlled the narrative. Like we didn't eat this one out. Like Marcus Marriota didn't miss a wide open guy in the end zone. Our guy made a game winning play. Our D coordinator called an incredible play after we called a timeout, saw what they were going to do on their two-point play, called the perfect defense and then we executed. We knew that we were going to be unblocked.

We didn't come in there like, oh my gosh, I'm on blocked. I came in there knowing I'm unblocked, knowing I got to get my hands up, a game of inches, we won the game. That's how he's messaging it. And I think it's message loud and clear. And you talk about Bo Nix. I'm kind of tired of people hating on Bo Nix. Bo Nix has done nothing but fly under the radar for not one, but now two years.

Last year he had a great year. And because Jaden Daniels was so out of this world, we didn't really talk about it. Bo Nix, to me, is playing really good football. And this defense is carrying a young quarterback as he's developing. But I think he's got the it factor. And I think the play caller and the quarterback are in lockstep, it'll get tougher for them too but i believe in this team so there are coaches ben jonsonsons one i think lefleur shanahan patin they're scheme coaches and CEOs i think nick seriani dan campbell or the

ceo not scheme coaches the problem with that is if you hire the wrong coordinator you may not be able to fix it i said this earlier matt mat mat lefleur's offense was broken three weeks ago it's not broken anymore he fixed a problem in season i don't know if seriani i don't know if that's his pedigree. I watch Philadelphia and I don't, I mean, they've solved things in the off season by hiring different OCs. But when they go sideways in a season, they haven't shown an ability in the last couple of years to fix it. I mean, what is the primary issue you have with Philly's offense? Well, three and outs. I mean, I think they probably lead the league in three and outs. It hurts you just kills your team. Three and outs kill your team. That's a problem.

Third down, that's a problem. You know, the tush push was automatic before. That's no longer automatic. Saying all that, they're still fine. I think they need to just lean into what their true identity is. And what makes me nervous a little bit is when you're trying to please wide receiver types. Like I just don't think that's the best way to try to accomplish your goals. A.J. Browns, his numbers are great.

ever since he had the meeting with somebody who's probably higher in the on the depth chart than the head coach. You know, they're targeting him. He's delivering. He's got great stats. But I just don't know if that's the best thing for this quarterback, for this offense. I think they need to get back to what they were last year, which was the best team on the field up front, offensive line and defensive line, superstar running back, quarterback. And then you let the big plays come to you at the wide receiver position. You know, I still think they're an 11-win team. They just got to get back in their groove at the right time.

And that's in about a month. And we'll see how it looks at that point. I said, I know Mike Vrable or Ben Johnson will win coach of the year. What Robert Sala and Shanahan have done, I don't even know defensively how they're doing it. I honestly do not know how they're doing it. There's no Bosa, Mikel Williams. There's no Fred Warner. Fred Warner's arguably the best linebacker in the sport.

and Bosa was having a great start. Did you ever plan a team in your life that was ran out of players and you just willed your way to win? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I remember in Seattle, we, everybody was hurt. I mean, our coaches were hurt. It was like the craziest thing. I mean, everyone, everyone's coming up with all these different scenarios of why. We were signing guys off the street, playing them.

They were intercepting passes. One guy was selling insurance two weeks before. now we're playing in a playoff game and soldier field like you just got to do it you know and you know a lot of times like i remember chuck begano was my head coach one year and we had you know a lot of different adversity that we were we were kind of facing and it felt like every single team meeting started out with so what now what like so what now what you didn't make an excuse you're going to find a way and and that's just the mindset that i think great culture has great teachers have great great coaches have they kind of set this uh they give you confidence that you shouldn't even have and

Also, they give you hope. Like, hey, guess what, guys? Our quarterback's getting healthy. Our all-world tight ends getting healthy. Our tailbacks getting healthy. Like, hey, if we can just hold down the fort just a little while, reinforcements are on the way. And I think that's an example of what San Fran is done.

And this is another team I would not count out. I think people have counted this team out because the Rams and the Seahawks have been so good. But don't count out San Fran. They got, I think they're in control of a lot of things. And they've proven that they can win without their star players. I watched Aaron Rogers, never thought it was a good fit in Pittsburgh. I do think Tom Brady was really smart. And Matt Stafford gets to go to L.A. with Andrew Whitworth, Cooper Cup, and Sean McVeigh.

When you get older, you need a little more support. I mean, what did Tom Brady do? Gronk, get down here, and the GM promised them they'd get a right tackle. So like Brady knew, better weapons, I need protection. They had good guard center guard in Tampa. So Aaron goes to a team that can't run the ball for years, an O-line, they lost their left tackle. Is the Aaron Steeler story today kind of what you thought it would look like? No, because I thought they would keep George Pickens.

I thought that was part of the formula, and that was part of the reason that it was such an attractive job. I also thought that Aaron would maybe learn some lessons from his experience within New York Jets and just try to be the point guard. like literally and all these check with me and all these run pass options like hand it off hand it off more than you hold onto it preserve it you know and now he's got the broken wrist I played with that it's hard to protect yourself I mean he looks like he's from the wet bandits now

home alone with the broken nose now with the hat the cold weather on the sideline he doesn't look like he's having any fun and I don't blame him I'm not giving up on this team though because this division is there for the taking they got a regroup pull together I liked how he handled his press conference He's not pointing fingers at the coaches. I wish you would maybe pull it together in the locker room a little bit better.

But I do think that they will. I do think that they will. And I think they got a chance to win this division. And then once you get to the playoffs, again, play your best football then. You got the people in the room. Make it happen. And we'll see. I mean, I know it's a long shot, but that's what's great about the playoffs.

You just got to play your best to win the playoffs start. I got to tell you, as a former three-time pro bowler, Got to the Seahawks to the Super Bowl. I'm sure there are moments that you miss football, but I don't think December, it looks so cold. It's fun, Colin, it's fun when you're healthy. It's fun. Like playing in the snow, it reminds me of a snow day, schools canceled, it's a blast. But when it's cold and you're banged up and you're old, it's not quite as fun.

That sounds like me coming to work today. Cold, old, and banged up. great seeing you buddy you too see yeah all right the great mad hasselbeck who was so good on our show yeah it's um it's it's just crazy i mean last year i mean if i'd have told you yeah josh allen mahomes won't make the playoffs lamar jackson may not make the playoffs burrow is back and won't make the playoffs the bills don't look great week to week but the bears and the patriots will be number one seeds you'd have said oh what are you doing well what kind of opinion is that That is the NFL.

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people did. Well, now I'm like, I think Texas should be in. I think Miami should be in. Oh, that would be 14 teams. I'd be totally comfortable with it. So we've always said this. You know, you expand the playoffs, it just creates different arguments. You know, I watch Miami Hammer Pit.

And Miami beat Notre Dame head-to-head and has the better scoring defense, better total defense, better passing game. Now I'm like, that head-to-head seems to matter more. So, yeah, that's the way the world works. Like, you know, you thought, any time you expand a playoff, it's like saying, oh, we've got a private club, a country club. We used to only let in 100 members. Now we're letting in 150. And then the 150 first guy is, hey, the 140th guy's a schmuck. How am I not in the country club?

Like, you had this small club four, now it's 12, and now I want Miami and Texas in. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. I can tell you, very excited for the college football discussion. We'll do that in a second, but we got to start with what some are calling the NFL catch of the year. And that's your boy, Puka Nakua. Go up and get it.

Look at this one-handed grab against the Panthers. I mean, Colin, that is phenomenal. This guy's doing some crazy stuff. Now, if you watch it closely, Puka goes up with the right hand and just snares it. Yeah. I mean, unbelievable. Now, there were a couple other incredible catches in the NFL yesterday. This seems to be the clubhouse leader for catch of the year.

Puka did, of course, watch as Stafford threw a pick six. The Rams did lose. It was a weird loss for the Rams because their offense was incredible, Colin. Yeah. But it's hard, you know, like Denver's defense last night and the Rams defense yesterday. It's hard to get guys to answer the bell 17 weeks. Well, offense is different. If you have a great quarterback and you separate with your receivers, Pook and Devonte,

it's hard to stop smart offensive coaches and quarterbacks in this league. But defense is about effort and explosion and brute force. It's hard to get a great performance every week. Bryce Young cooked him on. He had two incredible fourth-down touchdown passes. The funniest thing I heard was Bryce Young is selectively elite. Okay? Go up against the Saints at home.

He's garbage. Go up against the Rams or Packers. It's like, oh, man, Bryce Young can make some passes. Colin, I know it's a deeper discussion. I keep going back and forth. What do you do with him in the off-season? Listen, this is why you get paid the big bucks. He's inconsistent, but there's no disputing this.

Carolina is a real team now. They've got a very good coach. and Bryce about every other game looks like this. Now you could argue young quarterbacks like Bonix or Caleb are less consistent. I mean, it's just, I mean, he's just, it's hard to unsee that Niner game

where he just shrunk, but it's... I mean, the Saints game, he was terrible. I mean, like, against the Saints, who are maybe the second worst team in the league. It ain't the Jets. I'll just say this about Bryce. We saw what, like, Sam Darnel got, like, in the NBA, they call it the Fun Max,

which is like a lot of money, but not Max Steel. And then Baker Mayfield got a, And, you know, I think one of those probably gets to Bryce Young. Yes. Hey, we're going to keep them around for two more years. Canales, very good coach. I mean, they won seven games this year, Colin. They won seven the last two years combined.

Yeah. Okay. Ted McMillan, your guy from Arizona, showing well. I like the Panthers. They're fun. Yeah. All right, let's move on college football. Here we go.

A lot of debate. Miami Hurricanes. They whipped up on Pitt. So, obviously, I mean, Colin said so. Hey, that's a great win over Pitt with those beautiful throwback unies. head coach Mario Cristobal lobbying hard for his team to get in the playoff. Everybody wanted to see how Miami would do in the cold weather on the road against the top 25 team. And I think we answered those questions very clearly.

So at the end of the day, it's not only do we pass the eye test, we pass the field test, right? Especially as it relates to playing this brand of football down the stretch. And in head-to-head competition versus others that are being judged in the same little pool that we are as well. Plus, we're getting healthy. Yeah, so I watched this game, and I thought it was going to be close, and after this game, you do a little homework. So think of this. Miami won head-to-head.

Okay, timeout, time-out. That needs context. No, no, no, let me finish. Okay, okay. It still matters. Even in the NFL, the number one tiebreaker is head-to-head. Now, September football doesn't mean as much in college or the NFL that it did five years ago. September doesn't mean what it used to in college football.

It's never meant anything in the NFL. But head-to-head matters, Miami won. They had four common opponents. In three of four, Miami beat the team worse than Notre Dame did. Okay, so in three of four, Miami has the better total defense and scoring defense. Miami has the better passing offense, yards per game, total touchdowns. And I thought it was a legitimate question. I thought they would go here, cold weather, win, and be ugly.

they were great. So they blew out in North Carolina State, 34, pit by 31, Stanford by 35, Syracuse by 28. I got to tell you, when this game was over, my take was, okay, we got to be fair on. Head to head, you got to contextualize it because it was in Miami. But you know what? Sometimes that's the reality of the schedule. You don't get every game, big game at home. If they did, USC would be elite.

Right. sometimes. I mean, this year, Texas A&M doesn't play Bama, Georgia, Oklahoma, or Ole Miss. Schedules matter. Miami got a break. They got Notre Dame at home. I, right now this morning, I think Miami would have a right to be pissed. Like, hey, we scheduled you, we got you, and we beat you. Okay, timeout. Again, context. You said September football, it matters. What about August football? This game was August 31st, Colin. It was a first ever start for Notre Dame quarterback and a rainstorm on the road.

But it was August for both teams. Yes. And I won. Right. At home, great. Well, again, that's, I mean, that's, I mean, that's, listen, Texas got Texas A&M in Austin. Sometimes that's the way it works. I mean, it's very rare, like Ohio State lost at Outson last year.

Luckily, they got to play them again. But if they hadn't, people would have said, well, Oregon's better. They played a second time. Ohio State beat him by like 40. But doesn't that show that the time? the first meeting means nothing? That first lost by Ohio State meant nothing. No, no, it didn't because it validated how good Oregon was,

and Miami's win when you couple it with three wins. They have common opponents. So not only does Miami have head to head, okay, let's go to common opponents. No, Miami wins that too. Well, wait a minute, by scoring margins. So, hey, you beat South Florida by more than Notre Dame or whatever the team is. What about the losses? You've conveniently ignored.

losing to Louisville at SMU and not even making the ACC title game. I said last week, punitive losses are what kept Bama out last year when they lost to Vandy because losing to Oklahoma didn't kill Bama, so I'm not denying it. The reason this is a go-either-way argument are the ugly losses. But you start stacking the arguments. So, I mean, here's a prime example. If I say, okay, what is the best Miami win? They can say, well, we did beat Notre Dame.

Go to Notre Dame, and what is your best win? Well, we beat USC, I guess. Okay, okay. USC, half you want Lincoln Riley fired. Okay. So I think it is a good win, but Illinois beat Notre Dame, and Oregon hammered U.S.C. And Notre Dame hammered USC and Oregon hammered U.S.

And I'm not saying, I'm just saying, so I beat him head to head. I have the quality win. common opponents. I mean, at some point we've got to be fair about. We can't do, like last week, my take was I think Notre Dame would win. Well, that's not the way it works

in the NFL. You go, tiebreaker, common opponents, head to head. It's not fair for me to just go, well, I think Notre Dame would win. I do actually. But that's not fair. No, I totally agree. Now, here's where it gets real crazy. What if Alabama beats Georgia?

You can't keep Alabama out of the playoffs. Right now, I don't know if they're in. But if Alabama beats Georgia in the SEC title game... Well, App Bamma's in. And Caleb, we think they're in? Who are they in ahead of? Are they definitely ahead of Notre Dame in Miami? I am not anti-Nodermane.

I love Marcus Freeman. But Notre Dame loves all the upside of independence. They love being independent. Well, Miami, they're in a conference. And sometimes in a conference, the schedule goes your way, and sometimes it doesn't. I mean, Ohio State would have rather played in Columbus than Ann Arbor. They were the better team.

I have to take out, I can't do confirmation bias. At some point, head-to-head, common opponents, better defense, better pass game. And when I watch them beat Pittsburgh, it's like, they beat the holy hell out of them. Any Miami fan that says conference, you just say, strength of schedule, who had a tougher word? And it's Notre Dame by a mile. So it's a fun discussion. We'll see what happens. Final story, Colin Lamar Jackson.

Boy, hey, listen, we tried to warn you guys. Lamar's not the same guy he has been. And I don't know, he looked so lost against the Bengals. The turnovers were anemic. He just doesn't have the escapeability. Now, he's been back from injury for a while, Colin. I don't know. Here he is talking about his struggles against the Bengals

who have one of the worst defenses in the league. I'm ticked off. You know, it's not even fucked with him. I'm just mad because, like I said, we can't have that. and turnovers is a bit part of winning, losing games. Turning the ball over, giving them an extra possession. This is the outcome. Yeah, I...

What do you do with the Ravens? What do you do with them? Are they good? They're good. They're better than the Steelers, but we'll find out this week. That's another game, which is like, you know, in a game in a week with seven incredible games, Raven Steelers is like maybe fifth,

because these teams are not really watchable. Dude, starting Thursday, Lions, Cowboys. This is maybe the best football weekend of 2025. Because there's Thursday, then you get the college football game Saturday, and the Sunday slate's off the hook. I mean, it's crazy. Lamar Jackson, we're showing our television audience this. Lamar Jackson's passer rating in his last three games is 63.

That's falling off a cliff. And we know the coach is good. I mean, it's just, it's wild. We can't say like, hey, he doesn't have receivers. I mean, Josh Allen is throwing to nobody's, okay? That's fair. This is not a great look for Lamar. You're right.

J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. Yeah, I think the Miami-Nodermane thing is, I mean, I'm watching the pit game, and I'm like, man, that's impressive. Then you start looking at all the numbers, and you're like, okay, I got to be fair on this. You got to be fair. Head to head now.

It's got to be something. Common opponents have to be something. Well, our schedule. Well, schedules are weird. I mean, half the time, like Texas has beaten three teams that were ranked in the top 10 when they played them. So that's why I would have no problem with Texas being in. Sarks on next hour.

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So, you know, another argument for the Miami Hurricanes over Notre Dame is Notre Dame's an independent, so they have more flexibility with their schedule. Miami tried to schedule tough. They scheduled Florida and SEC team. It wasn't their fault. They beat him that Florida was a tire fire. They beat Florida State in conference when they were three and one. Florida State now looks horrible.

They weren't when Miami played them. They also scheduled South Florida. And that's South Florida Super Bowl. They beat them too. So Miami's in a conference. They're limited on what they can do with schedule. They scheduled Florida. That's an SEC team.

You can't blame them. Florida went sideways. And Notre Dame's an independent, so they have more flexibility with their schedule. So I got to, I guess the other thing is, listen, who's going to win coach of the year? I'm not a big awards guy. I don't really care. But, you know, Mike Vrable and Ben Johnson deserve consideration. iteration. Jim Harbaugh has the chargers at 8 and 4, the lowest ranked offensive line due to

injuries, and they still run the football. How I don't know. And what Shanahan's done and Robert Sala to this team, they have a buy now at 9 and 4, it's pretty remarkable. No Bosa, no Warner. Remember, they lost Greenlaw and Hufunga in the offseason, Denver bottom. So they went in under the gun. Williams, the Georgia defense event, he got hurt too, the first round guy. So they're doing it with duct tape. And great coaching in the NFL is a little like gold mining.

It's very few gems, and you've got to dig through a lot of rubble and soil and dirt and rock to find the gold gems. But Shanahan's done an unbelievable job with this team, and we always give coach of the year to, you know, and they're deserving to Vrable and Ben Johnson. It's really been the year of coaching.

but I think what Harbaugh's done, how they run the football. Hampton's coming back. Watch out. And what Shanahan has done, I don't remember a team on one side of the ball that has lost more from the end of last season to now. And they've been unbelievably good. I mean, Shador Sanders wasn't bad. It's Stefansky knows what he's doing and they've got talent. Nope, they made all the big plays.

Here's Kyle after. I thought the D was setting the tone all day, really. I mean, they got that one score with the double move. I think they ran it. It felt like nine plays in a row, set it up and got that score. And every drive after that, man, I thought our D was real good. Made some adjustments at halftime. Did better in the run game, I thought, in the second half.

But Fort Down was the big, as good as turnovers when you stop them on fourth down. They are eighth in the NFL in defense. And again, they play in a division. where they've got to face, Darnold and Stafford and Devonthe Adams. I mean, you know, even going on the road, crappy weather, Shadour Sanders. I thought Cleveland was one of my favorite picks of the weekend.

Here's Matt Hasselbeck earlier on the adversity the Niners have battled through. I remember Chuck Pagano was my head coach one year, and we had a lot of different adversity that we were kind of facing. And it felt like every single team meeting started out with, so what now what like so what now what you're going to make an excuse you're going to find a way and i think that's an example of what san fran is done and this is another team i would not count out i think people have counted this team out because the rams and the sioxx have been so good but uh don't count out san fran they got uh i think they're in control of a lot of things and they've proven that they can

win without their star players okay one of the great mysteries in the nfl is why doesn't everybody love Jordan Love. So we're going to play blind resume, J. Mack. Here are the numbers for Jordan Love of the Green Bay Packers. With the youngest offense in the league, right? Doesn't always play in the best weather. Jordan Love, 8, 3 and 1, 19 touchdowns, 3 picks, 104 pass-er rating, 67% completion percentage.

So let's play a little blind resume. He was great against Detroit, and nobody loves him. So for our radio audience, we're throwing up a quarterback who is, virtually identical to Jordan Love's numbers so far this year. Who is that quarterback? Tom Brady in 2020. Brady's last Super Bowl winning season. Same numbers.

And we're like, Brady's the goat. Unbelievable season. Let's play it again. Jordan loves numbers so far. Okay, this quarterback, I mean, doesn't even have the passer rating. yards per attempt slightly better. Who's this quarterback? Matt Stafford in his Super Bowl winning year.

J. Mack is wincing at the data that is being presented. So let's do another Jordan Love blind resume. So we got Brady and Stafford in Super Bowl winning years. Okay, this quarterback is clearly, clearly not quite as good as Jordan Love. the numbers are all off a little bit from Jordan's numbers this year. Who is this quarterback? Oh, Patrick Mahomes, last Super Bowl win. He's got a significantly higher passer rating and yards per attempt.

Let's do one more. I don't know, maybe you've heard of Mahomes, Stafford, and Brady. It was just Y.A. Tittle. Why, he diddle. They didn't play in shoes. So you have to have played in shoes. All right. So let's finally, because I'm watching Jordan against Detroit,

and I'm like, tall, athletic, big arm, aggressive, doesn't throw picks. What is it with Jordan Love? Now, I didn't know what he was going to be, but I mean, at this point, he's good. So this next quarterback, our final round, again, Jordan Love slightly better across the board, especially in Passer rating. Who is this quarterback? Josh Allen, MVP season. Oh, boy.

Oh, you love this stuff. I mean, I don't. I'm not like a magician. I got to watch my words here. I have a copperfield field to me. I'll be honest with you. So are you, what are we saying here?

Jordan Love is. We love Stafford, Brady, Josh Alma Holmes. It's hard to find anybody out of Green Bay that'll just go, this kid's great. I mean, everybody brought Purdy defenders,

Jalen Hertz defenders, Justin Herbert defenders. And I like those guys too. Jordan Love is fantastic. I mean, it was the Lions. Like, I like the Packers a lot.

It was only the Lions. you know, secondary, not very good, pass rush wasn't there. I gave you season number. Yeah, I'm aware. I don't know. I mean, I like Jordan, love a lot. Remember, we talked about him as a potential MVP candidate.

He loses Tucker Kraft. The offensive line's been kind of beat up. Golden's not always been there. Jaden Reed's been out for like 10 weeks or something. Yeah. This team is dangerous. Right now, where are you in with the Packers in the NFC hierarchy? I mean, the Detroit game, also, they have not run the

ball consistently. So he doesn't have a formidable run game. The O-line banks, they overpaid for. Green Bay doesn't do that very much. They may have overpaid for that guard from the Niners. Their run game's not very good. Major injuries, lost Tucker Kraft, and they go to Detroit, and

Detroit hasn't lost two in a row in forever, and they beat him soundly. They were the better team. So this is a 425 marquee game this weekend. Packers hosting the Bears. There's number one seat in the NFC. Do you want to guess? Okay, okay.

Green Bay, oh boy. Green Bay minus one and a half. Oh, God. I'll give you a moment and try again. You're not even close. Green Bay minus three and a half. Green Bay minus six and a half at this moment on draft. That's ridiculous.

A rivalry division game, six and a half. I'm just telling you, Green Bay has a much better odds for Super Bowl than Chicago. Chicago was like right around 9-10 Super Bowl odds despite being number one in the NFC. The market is telling you this Bears team is Fugazi. Now, I'm not saying they are.

I know Ben Johnson's going to pull clips and give it to his team. I'm not trashing them. Packers big this weekend, Colin. Just admit, that Jordan love blind resume. Oh, you love that. Your head is spinning. You don't know what to do.

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