The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right and wrong, more on Brian Daboll being fired, Matt Hasslebeck
Episode Date: November 10, 2025Another edition of “Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong”—Colin nails it on Matthew Stafford, but takes the L on Pete Carroll and the Las Vegas Raiders. M...ore on the breaking news of the Giants firing HC Brian Daboll and where New York will go from here Guest: Matt HasslebeckSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Here we go. Hour 2 on a Monday. Matt Hasselbeck, three to four minutes out.
The news of the day just changed. Brian Daibel, out, fired.
just like the Jets last year.
Firing the head coach middle of the season,
who happens to be the best coach on the staff.
Not what I would have done,
but it does give you a head start
on the best coach available on the market.
Mike McCarthy would be my guy.
Offensive guy, it's an offensive league.
You can go to Cooper Rush, Aaron Rogers,
you can go to Dak Prescott.
I think he's a good B plus coach.
You know, would an A coach want that job?
No.
I got news for eight coaches like Mike Frable.
They don't want the Jets of the Giants.
He wanted to go back to Robert Kraft.
Jim Harbaugh's not leaving Michigan for the Jets or Giants.
Sean Payton's not taking those jobs.
What happens in the NFL is the good coaches, use the Jets and the Giants,
make sure everybody thinks they're interested.
Then they take the better job with the better job.
owner. But I wouldn't have fired dayball. That's me. I'll talk to Matt Hassel back in a few minutes.
But it is Monday. Colin Wright, Colin wrong, and here we go. Where Colin was right?
I said three years ago. I said if Matt Stafford ends his career, like I think he's going to end it,
you're going to look at he and Aaron Rogers and say, who is really better? Right now, he's the MVP.
Last two years, 45 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, and Aaron looks really old.
Matt Stafford with this coach finally has a reasonable chance every Sunday to succeed.
And there's not a better guy from the pocket in the NFL right now than Matt Stafford of the L.A. Rams.
Where Colin was wrong.
I defended hiring 74-year-old Pete Carroll, but Seattle's on fire since he left.
And the Raiders are getting progressively worse.
He pursued Gino Smith.
that I don't get.
Pete had a year off to reflect and modernize,
and I don't know, nothing's working.
I'm not expecting you to win eight games.
Nothing looks good.
The special teams, the run game, the defense,
none of it looks buttoned up.
Where Colin was right?
The Niners are what I thought they were.
Not as good as Seattle of the Rams.
That's why I picked them for third.
People said, are you out of your mind?
And I said they're old, expensive, and brittle.
Old players get hurt more.
and it takes longer for the old players to get back.
It's not Max Jones.
Mac Jones is doing fine.
Don't blame Mac Jones.
That's not the issue.
The issue is the 49ers are an old football team,
and you are seeing the results of that very old football team.
Where Colin was wrong.
Now we can show the Michael Panix video.
Three straight games, completing less than 60% of his throws.
and I liked him out of college.
In fact, he had 45 career starts.
So my takeaway was he's going to be kind of ready to play.
Boy, he misses and he misses badly a lot.
So the last two weeks, he's also won for 18 on third down.
So he looks uncomfortable.
He's skipping a lot of balls.
It doesn't look right.
And I've got to take a wrong on this.
It's like a J.J. McCarthy.
It just doesn't feel like the right guy.
where Colin was right?
I said a couple years ago,
John Snyder is as good as any personnel guy in the NFL.
And since he and Pete Carroll have separated,
and it is now his roster,
I think there's an argument.
This is the best and fastest roster in the NFL.
Turn the sound down and watch the Seahawks.
He also got a third round pick for Gino Smith.
That's great GMing.
He's also paying Sam Darnold
less than Taysome Hill makes is a cap hit.
That is great GMing.
Right now, this roster is as good as any in the league,
and that's because the last two years,
John Snyder has totally controlled personnel.
Where Colin was wrong.
I said the Dallas Mavericks,
I said they're going to make the Western Conference finals.
They are now the worst shooting team in the West,
second worst in the league.
Offensively, they're brutal.
They don't have a true point guard.
They don't really have a leader.
Maybe Kyrie Irving when he comes back.
They're very directionless.
They're either too young or kind of old.
So the only team in the league that's worst offensively is the Pacers.
Boy, did I miss on the Dallas Mavericks.
Where Colin was right?
Everybody bailed on Kalin DeBoer.
Oh, Kalin DeBore is no Nick Sabin.
Well, he's beaten Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Vandy, and Missouri.
four straight ranked matchups that he's won.
And, you know, it takes, even if you replace Nick Sabin,
you've got to build your own culture.
And nobody's discussing the truth is in the NIL world,
Bama doesn't have a lot of money.
Ohio State's got better players than Alabama,
and it's not particularly close.
Last year, Ohio State also had better players.
So they are not the Sabin Crimson Tide,
and Nick Sabin saw that train coming,
and he went to broadcasting.
So Kalin DeBoer, they got Oklahoma, they'll win, a directional school, and then Auburn.
He's going to make the playoffs.
Where Colin was right?
I worried about hiring two coordinators in-house.
Dan Campbell admitted yesterday he took over the play calling.
He didn't do that with Ben Johnson.
So when you hire in-house and don't have a global search, you may get a really good candidate,
but you're not getting the best candidates.
I thought they played it safe, they played it comfortable,
and the NFL is a league of discomfort.
So, and Dan Campbell soft sold it.
You know, I mean, it was a collaborative effort.
He took over play call from the OC.
That's not what he wanted to do at the start of the season.
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Yeah, we put up 45 points, almost 600 yards.
Yeah, I was the play caller.
Well, you know.
So, wow, it's tough.
I don't like firing the best coach in the staff mid-season.
If you're going to fire a coach, get to the end of the season,
because I always worry about the substitute teacher law.
Everybody loves the interim.
Everybody plays great with the interim.
They win three games, and everybody goes, hire the interim.
Again, that's not the best.
coach, it's the interim. I don't like firing Brian Daybold now who had a good relationship with
Jackson Dart. What say you? Yeah, listen, I get that point, but there's a lot more that goes into this.
And, you know, the losing record, I think 20 and 40 over his career and stuff like that,
the embarrassing game management loss this last week. I don't think it's those things.
I think that concussion protocol mix up, you know, I think that's, I don't think that's,
that's not the New York Giants. They don't want to be known for stuff like that on the fringes.
and I think that played into it.
And I think the bigger thing is just that your star quarterback, your prize possession,
he's been in that blue tent way too much.
I think he's been evaluated from concussions four times since he's been playing recently.
And they're running him the way that they were running like Sequin Barclay.
You know, they're all this quarterback run game.
I get it.
You get an advantage in the run game that's working.
At the same time, you've got to have a little bit more care for the future of the franchise.
And that's exactly what that quarterback is.
and I think those things also played into this thing.
And just one other thing,
if you think the fact that Daniel Jones having the success
that he's having with the Indianapolis Colts
doesn't play into this decision as well,
you're crazy.
Like this absolutely plays into the decision.
Well, that's interesting because Darnold's tearing it up in Seattle
and everybody in Minnesota is going,
Kevin, why did you let him walk?
I mean, it's not so much about just letting somebody walk.
Like you're having closed doors.
closed door discussions and saying like, you know, what's our problem? What's our thing? And like,
maybe you're saying like, we just don't have the right quarterback. He's just not elite. We need someone
who's really like clutch. You know, like, whatever the things are that we're setting closed door meetings.
And then all of a sudden he goes and he's having the kind of year that he's having with Indianapolis Colts,
it's like, maybe, maybe you were wrong about that. So I think it all adds up. And but again,
I think how they have kind of handled, like do we trust you with our prize possession?
and Jackson Dart, you know, they're not so sure.
And Mike Kafka, listen, he's a guy that he gets named for head coaching interviews
every offseason.
It feels like he's, you know, he's been with Andy Reed.
He's kind of seen behind the curtain there, coach Patrick Mahomes.
So I think there's like an element there too where it's like, well, let's see what
this guy has before we go into our coaching search.
Okay, so I'm, I am watching, I said, I literally feel like I have a beat on everybody in the
league except Pittsburgh.
They can hammer the Patriots and hammer the Colts and lose to the Bengals and get blown out
three times.
And I said, I'm going to theorize here, but they're the second oldest team in the league.
And whereas Seattle is young and feels like they're ascending, old teams as the weather
gets cold, guys get hurt, longer to get back.
That's the only thing I can figure out because I honestly do not know game to game week
to week, what I get with Pittsburgh, and I feel like everybody else in the league I got a little bit
of a beat on. What did you make of last night? Yeah, I don't know if Pittsburgh's really that good.
I mean, you say that they beat down the Colts and beat down the Patriots. I mean, I think they had
like maybe six turnovers in one of those games and one by seven. So like, I'm not sure if they're
really sure who they are. You know, their defense was really poor early. Then they put it together,
started playing great, created those turnovers, like I said. But, you know, I just, I think this offense
looks like Aaron Rogers with the New York Jets again.
You know, they abandon the run game
once they get down inside the 10 yard line.
It's a lot of check with me type stuff.
The run is there and Aaron's trying to use his all-world arm
and, you know, kind of has that arm arrogance in the red zone
with the guys like D.K. Medcalf, man, just hand the ball off sometimes.
You got numbers and that's who the Pittsburgh Steelers want to be.
That's who they've been for a long time.
So they got to be careful because for a while,
it looked like they were a playoff team running away with this division.
but, you know, Cincinnati's not that far back.
Joe Burroughs coming back.
Lamar Jackson's coming back.
I would say Pittsburgh.
They got to figure out an identity and do it quick.
So, you know, I said one of the reasons I think, you know this, the NFL is a league of discomfort.
Somebody's always hurt.
And it's also a league in which there's a Rubik's Cube field of the NFL.
There's always a problem, and you've got to solve it quickly.
You don't get an off-season.
You've got to solve stuff in one or two weeks.
Kansas City, Josh Simmons out a monk left tackle.
Uh-oh, receiver goes down.
Pooka's hurt.
Sean McVeigh's like four tight ends in London.
That's the league.
You have to solve issues with Buffalo.
It took them years to figure out running back before they drafted James Cook.
Now their passing game the last year is a mess.
Like, I feel like McDermott is a good coach.
But in a league of offensive coaches, Matt,
I think the offensive guys solve stuff in season better than defensive coaches with quarterbacks.
That's my take. Tomlin, I've been waiting for the run game to work seven years.
So I look at McDermott in that performance. I'm like, is it possible?
Sometimes not every coach that's fired is bad.
Mike McCarthy wasn't bad. Do you keep McDermott forever?
Well, I mean, you bring up some good points.
And even the game last night, you know, you saw the L.A. Chargers working around there.
injury situation, you know, and, you know, getting creative.
I think the problem for the Buffalo Bills, though, is that, you know, they're not very good
on defense.
And I've been saying this, I mean, I feel bad when I say it because, like, I've been saying
it's so long and so much.
Like last year, their defense let their offense down.
This year, to me, their defense is letting their offense down.
And, you know, people are going to say, like, oh, they picked off two or twice.
Like, those were like punts.
Those were just like throw up.
Like, when you look at what they are in critical, critical moments, they don't stop
the run.
They don't make plays on third.
down. They don't make plays in the red zone. And, you know, I think they just help, you know,
they think that, you know, Superman's going to help them out on the other side of the ball.
So, you know, I, listen, having gone up against Sean McDermott many times when he was a coordinator,
he was a very, very difficult coach to go up against. I have a tremendous amount of respect for him
as a coach. However, when I turn on the film and I watch their defense play, I just don't see
championship level defense coming out of there. I don't. I didn't see it last year. I don't see it
this year. They don't tackle well.
You got D-Linman using spin moves
on run plays. I don't
like what I see there. And part of the
reason that the New England Patriots look like
they're going to win the AFC East.
Are you
I watched Drake May yesterday.
I mean, I thought they would be a really
interesting team. But they're not
even, I mean, they just started playing
Kyle Williams, who is a
burner and Trayvion Henderson.
So, you know, Brabals like, listen, you got to learn
the playbook, you better block. And I can
see, you know, Brable likes physical teams.
I can see him not, Kyle's a thin guy, you're not blocking enough, or Trayvian Henderson.
Like, I get that.
So those are really good players who yesterday really surfaced as potential stars.
How surprised are you?
Go back to your second year in the league.
The game looks pretty easy for Drake.
Doesn't it, I am easier than it should?
Well, listen, Mike Vrable, Josh McDaniels have done an incredible job with Drake May, but it's not just Drake May.
You know, those guys you mentioned, Trayvion Henderson started the year third string.
Kyle Williams was like a third stringer, like a committee.
They're getting major, major contributions out of a guy the bills let go and Matt Collins.
And I think it all works together.
I think Drake May is still a young quarterback learning, which is wild to think because he's playing so great.
Trayvion Henderson's a future star.
Reminds me of Christian McCaffrey.
But Vrable took this approach where he basically got rid of every captain that the Patriots ever had
and said, hey, we're going to take a long-term approach for sustained success here in New England.
That's why it's ironic that they're doing so well and they're winning as much as they are so far.
And it hasn't been like, hey, this is all on you, Stefan Diggs.
Mark, sorry, not Mac Jones, Drake May, he's been spreading the ball around much more than quarterbacks in the past have done for the Patriots.
It's been a wide receiver by committee.
So, it's been a little bit of running back by committee and then Hunter Henry at tight end.
And so I think the future is really bright.
I just don't think people thought it was going to be this soon.
So I think both of us agreed to the first five or six weeks.
It was more Ben Johnson than Caleb.
But I said before, there's certain things about Caleb that are true.
He's really durable.
He doesn't go to the tent.
He doesn't throw a lot of picks.
He does hold the ball too long.
But I think some of that is born from, I'll just escape.
Like, I'm going to hold it another beat.
I watched him yesterday in crappy weather, and I was like, I thought at the end of the game,
I thought his last like three possessions, I was really, really impressed, top to bottom.
Your sense on what you've seen during this winning streak?
Yeah, I think you probably like Caleb more than me.
I think you're ready to, yeah, I've heard you say some things that maybe you're just trying
for content for when Colin was wrong later.
Listen, he's a young player, and so he's done a great.
job of improving on the things that he needed to improve on. Last year, I got on here every week,
and I said he's got bad body language. He holds onto the ball too long. He takes too many sacks,
you know, stuff like that. Ben Johnson gets hired. He basically said the exact same things.
And Caleb, to his credit, has fixed them. He took no sacks again this past week. He's finding
checkdowns. He's not checked down Charlie. He's taking shots down the field. But if it's not there
on rhythm, protect the team, protect the offensive line, he's getting the ball out. I think Ryan
Poles has done an incredible job of basically surrounding him with great talent, especially up front.
I mean, they bring in Ozzie Tripillo as an extra tight end for more pass protection,
selling the run.
He's got time.
And then you put him in the shotgun game.
Most of his success is under center play action.
Shotgun game in two minutes, he's done a great job.
So, listen, am I going to crown him like you are because he beat the New York Giants, which is part of the boat?
No, I'm not.
But Ben Johnson, like I've said, he is the real deal.
And if Caleb buys in and allows himself to be fully, fully coached by this coach,
he'll have a long future in this division on this team and the team that's been starving for great quarterback play.
Yeah, maybe I'm a little hot on him right now.
That's probably fair.
You just need more content.
You're trying to even out the scales.
Yeah, too much when Colin was right.
You just needed a little more Colin wrong for later.
I get it.
Smart.
That's next level.
That's you.
Like those pool players who, like, they're not just trying to get like the certain ball in.
They're trying to set up their next shot.
I like that.
You're playing checkers.
I wish I was that.
I was that smart.
I'm watching the Seahawks, and I know Pete and John Snyder were not on the same page about three years ago, and then Pete leaves.
And then John, this is his roster.
And the last couple of drafts, I've come on that Monday after the draft, and I've been like, man, that's a good draft.
And then they get Sam Darnold, who has less of a cap hit than Taysam Hill.
They get a third round pick for Gino.
and I guess my point is when I watch Seattle play and if I turn the sound down, Matt, that's the fastest team in the league.
They have athletes everywhere.
I'm not sure what the whole is.
Like with Philadelphia, I can say, well, they got an A.J. Brown.
J. Brown. Jalen Hertz issue.
I don't love their corners.
I don't see anything with the Ciox I'm not supposed to like.
What do you make of it?
Well, I'll tell you the stuff you didn't like early in the year that, you know, they were calling for certain people to get cut, traded, benched, all that stuff.
those people have been getting coached and they're playing well.
I mean, this Seahawks team's been impressive in all three phases.
I mean, I think they've scored 30 points three times in the first half of a game this year.
So what's been ironic about them, they're unbelievable on the road.
And they have struggled a little bit at home.
They lost to Tampa at home in a game that they should have won.
So doing what they did yesterday at home, I think sends a message of like, hey, we are a team improving on our mistakes.
And Mike McDonald, John Schneider, like you said,
they're in lockstep.
I also think that one of the best things I could say about this team is that this is a team
that the players feel like we care about the success of this team more than our coaching staff.
And that's good teams, the coaches care more than the players.
Great teams.
The players care more than the coaches.
And I think that's what you'd find in Seattle.
All right.
Let's circle back.
Brian Daibald's gone.
I don't love doing it now.
You, and it's a great point.
Mike Kafka's been around this league, Northwestern guy, if I recall,
call, so he pretty smart quarterback at Northwestern.
You're okay with it because of Kafka.
Like, if they didn't have him, you'd be a little unsettled,
but you do think they have a guy in the building that they should want to watch for a
couple months.
That's your take.
Well, listen, they're going to do a full search on anybody on the planet that they think
can help get it right.
But they have this guy that this is like a little bit of an audition.
I mean, he's the guy for the last, what, like three or four years, his name surfaces
every time because they think that he's a great quarterback whisperer. Let's see. His personality
is completely different than Brian Dayball. Brian Dayball's got, where's his emotion? Like, you see it,
you know it. Mike Kafka's not like that. So it's an opportunity for the Giants to see what they have.
Much like when you start a young quarterback late in the year, you're saying, like, we need to find
out what we have in this guy to decide if we need to go out and draft the quarterback of the future,
or if we already have them in the building, we don't know it. That's kind of what I think about this
situation here. And whoever they hire is going to have to be somebody that knows what they're doing
when it comes to Jackson Dart or at least can hire the person who knows what they're doing when it
comes to Jackson Dart. You know, UCLA is going to move their football games to Solify. They're leaving
the Rose Bowl. What do you make of that? Allegedly, allegedly, a little controversial right now.
Is it the Rose Bowl yesterday besides the hour and a half traffic to get up there? It's a beautiful,
beautiful place to be. So we'll, I don't know. I don't know what they're going to do there, but it's a
tricky situation, Colin.
Tricky.
In L.A. it takes an hour and a half to get to the grocery store.
An hour and a half to breathe.
Great seeing you, buddy.
All right.
See you.
Ah, love Matt Hasselbeck on our show.
Gives me crap.
That's exactly...
You know, I like it from him.
From J. Mack, it gets really irritating.
But from Hasselbeck, I can take it.
By the way, that UCLA, I'm glad you brought that up.
That's a fascinating story, and it is super smart of UCLA to move their games to SOFI.
You would agree with that, right?
I don't love it.
What?
Are you out of your mom?
Have you been to SoFi versus where they currently play their games?
Colin, so many more people will go to the games at SoFi.
It's one of the best stadiums in the country right now.
It's so new.
It is a great venue.
I think it's a great attractive.
Well, it's closer.
It's 10 miles.
Recruiting tool?
Well, it's 10 miles from the campus and the Rose Bowl is almost 30.
So that's, I mean, UCLA football's broken.
So they have to do something to unbreak it.
I mean, it's a broken program.
financially. They can't figure it out. It's like one of the lowest NILs in the Big Ten. So they're trying to
figure out a way to solve a broken football financial issue. They sound like a program that's ready
to go get a big name coach. Hey, we're moving our games to SoFi. We're relevant. They're striving
for relevance. Colin, I think UCI'm not going to compare it to other jobs in the country, but right now,
I think that job is on the uptick right now. Somebody, they're going to get someone young and smart,
and UCLA's on the rise for sure. Better job than the New York Giants, that's for sure.
wait hold on it says here
it says here
Westwood to Sofi
it's 23 miles
really
I can't confirm that I only go by Apple Maps
I don't know where anything is
I just put it in the way
how far is Westwood to the Rose Bowl
not that the national audience cares
I thought it was a lot farther
I think they care more about that
than the Chicago Bears offense
but
I'm just kidding I'm joking
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And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
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Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.
And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.
I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark.
Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase.
that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing.
And we're still chasing it.
And we don't know when we've done enough.
Because people scoreboard watch.
Life becomes about wins and losses.
Steve Burns, Dustin Ross,
because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth?
Are you a good person because you're afraid?
Because that's two different intentions, bro.
Absolutely.
And that's two different levels of trust.
I want you to just really be a good person.
Join me, Kear Gaines,
is we have real conversations about healing,
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Last night, a blown call changed a game.
This morning, the internet lost its mind.
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The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis,
and I know firsthand because I competed there myself.
I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast,
I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris,
every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay.
Jenchian win.
I mean, she went down at three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.
She's an outsider to win the French for me.
She likes Clay.
Listen, Lernerabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now.
And I actually can win on any surface.
Because if she's serving, well, good luck.
Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.
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All right, welcome back.
Brian Daibol has been let go by the New York Giants.
Mike Kafka, quarterback coach, quarterback whisperer probably takes the reins.
I don't like firing coaches mid-season.
Mike McCarthy would get a call from me.
You know, the Giants have done a lot of this coordinator stuff.
What worked?
Vrable in New England, proven head coach.
Sean Payton and Denver, proven head coach.
Jim Harbaugh, Chargers, proven head coach.
The only thing that worked, Mike McCarthy.
Green bait at Dallas, proven head coach.
Won a lot of games.
You can keep doing this coordinator thing.
It is a 50-50 at-best shot.
For more, J-Mac with the news.
No, no, no, no, no.
Turn on the news.
This is the herd line news.
All right, Colin, I've been chasing some numbers on this Daibble stuff.
Giants fans are thrilled for some reason that Ryan Daibble is fired.
Listen, obviously the wins haven't been there starting two.
and eight, three straight years, not great. Blowing four double-digit leads, not great.
But remember, Colin, this is a team that had a five and a half win total in the preseason in
Vegas, five and a half. There's not a lot of talent here. And oh, by the way, when you get a
double-digit lead, that means, man, you're doing some things right. Brian Daible's doing things
right with a rookie quarterback, okay? In Denver, which is an eight and two team. In Chicago, which is
playoff team. So it tells you the game
plans, he's breaking down film.
They're taking leads.
They can't close the leads
out. Yeah. Okay, there's a lot of reasons.
They lost their star back.
Jackson Dart gets beat up and
they run him early. They may not
want to run him as much late.
They've also had offensive line
injuries. So his scheming,
his game plans are very,
very good. It's an incredibly
limited roster
where the star offensive players
all get banged up.
Yeah.
And remember,
this was supposed
to be a great defense.
Remember the hype
around Abdul Carter,
Burns, Lawrence,
they got all these guys.
Kvon, Tibbitt,
all these dudes,
they currently are 27th
in the NFL in EPA
per play defensively.
That's horrific.
If anything,
I would have fired
the defensive coordinator.
Not table because,
again, Colin,
if I can get a quarterback
that's a rookie
to pair with a coach
and get double-digit
leads against Dallas
and all these teams,
I'm signing up.
for that. That means, like you said, the game plans
are there. I don't know if Daibble's
going to be a great head coach again.
You and I seem to think maybe
he gets interviews for head coaching jobs.
Like, I don't know, does Tennessee
turn to Brian Daibble to fix Cam Ward?
I don't have an answer. Like, is Tennessee
an attractive job?
Well, I think in a place like Miami,
where he's the opposite personality
of Mike McDaniels.
He's a gruff. He's a gruff.
Accountability. New York, you know, a lot of
New Yorkers moved down to Miami anyway.
So he'll go down to Miami.
He's intense. He's been a head coach.
He's worked in a bigger media market.
He's dealt with a young quarterback because I think Miami,
I mean, if I was Brian Daibble or his agent, I would talk to the dolphins and go,
there was one guy that loved Jackson Dart.
Brian Daibel, the GM didn't love him, the owner had mixed feelings, the analyst
didn't like him.
He was the one guy that said, give me Jackson Dart over Cam Ward.
Well, isn't Miami going to draft a quarterback?
Well, that's interesting.
Would Daibol want to work with Tua?
I don't know.
Is Miami going to be bad enough?
They got a great win yesterday.
I don't know if we'll do anything with that.
It's an interesting scenario, but I think you're on to something with Daible.
Remember when he was introduced as a Giants coach?
He had this very like, I'm going to get in my truck, and I'm going to drive to work,
and I'm going to put on my hard hat.
That was the vibe, and Giants fans loved it.
And now he's going to go down to South Beach and tough it up what's perceived to be a soft team.
I think you could be on to something.
All right, let's move on to Monday night football.
Big one, Colin.
Jordan Love and the Packers hosting the Philadelphia Eagles off a buy.
Former Packer Clay Matthews, he's chiming in,
thinks that if the Packers are going to bounce back,
Matt LaFleur needs to hand the keys over to Jordan Love
and let him do his thing.
Colin, you think that's going to be enough?
By the way, there is some money coming in on the Eagles today.
No, I like it down to one and a half.
No, I like Philadelphia.
I think Philadelphia, by getting Georgia,
Jalen Phillips.
It's not Micah Parsons acquisition,
but he's a really good pass rusher.
I think Philadelphia at the trade deadline made moves that you'll be able to see very quickly to help.
I think this team found itself,
and I think Philadelphia's got a better roster off a buy, a little healthier.
I like Philadelphia here.
I know the hot pick is Green Bay.
I'm on the Eagles tonight.
Yeah, I think a lot of it is overreaction to the Panthers loss,
which we called here on the show a trap game.
and I think the real Green Bay shows up tonight.
I don't like the injury report for the Packers.
Have you seen their wide receivers are dinged up?
Yep.
And Kraft is gone.
And Kraft is gone for the year.
Yeah, Tucker Kraft's gone.
I think, and this is my fantasy team talking.
Christian Watson, big plays.
Over the top.
Jordan Love to Christian Watson.
I'll take the Packers in a close one, Colin.
Final story.
Oh, we're actually allowed to talk about the Indianapolis Colts on the show now.
I know you woke up early for the Berlin matchup.
Listen, the Colts look bad for three quarters.
And then Jonathan Taylor took over.
Oh, my gosh, 83-yard touchdown run.
This was spectacular.
The clueless Falcons thought he was bottled up, and Taylor bounces outside, says,
Terrell, goodbye.
He's gone.
286 yards, Colin.
First half, Daniel Jones, once again, the fumble issue surfaced last two weeks.
A lot of giveaway.
I think it's seven giveaways last two weeks.
So the Daniel Jones in New York,
remember that was the one thing that Brian Dable had to solve
is that Daniel had a fumble issue.
And they kind of righted the ship.
He goes to Stike, and everybody's like,
oh, it's a new Daniel Jones.
Yes, last two weeks,
that's the Daniel Jones that was losing games in New York.
Ball security has once again surfaced.
Eventually, you know, everything regresses to the mean.
Like, that's who Daniel Jones is.
So I watched yesterday and I'm like, okay, this was the New York giant issue.
Ball security, fumbles.
So my daughter's volleyball team had this big meeting yesterday.
And of course, I'm watching the game on my phone sitting in the back.
And these dads are like, oh, what's wrong with the Colts, Jay Mack?
And I say, guys, I think the Shane Steichen offense has been solved.
Two weeks in a row now that Daniel Jones is on his back in the pocket and turning the ball over.
And the Falcons, I think they got him five times, Colin?
Six.
I think it was six or seven.
So that, so six, seven, here we go.
So that's back-to-back weeks where teams are getting to Jones and he's flustered in turning it over.
This week, Jonathan Taylor bails him out with an incredible running performance.
Now, they do, Colts go on a buy after the Berlin trip.
I wonder if Stuyken will solve some stuff, you know, figure out, hey, hey, what's going on with you?
They're going to have to simplify the offense for Joneses.
They're the best team in that division.
They have the best roster in that division.
I think they have the best coach in that division.
they're going to win that division.
I think there's a ceiling.
You'll see that ceiling when they face a Herbert or a Drake May.
Look on the screen who they face after the buy.
Yeah, Mahomes.
Andy Reed and Spagnolo.
You don't think Spagnollo is one of the best defensive minds in the game?
That is a huge test for the Colts.
And then after that, the Houston Texans defense,
which is very rambunctious on the front line with Will Anderson and Hunter.
Yeah, at Seattle all of a sudden.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Winners will be healthier.
Do the Colts win a playoff game, yes or no?
No.
No.
But they win the division.
You know, I think Daniel Jones, they've had so much chaos at quarterback.
Their takeaway is he's fine.
We will get a reasonable contract, and we can draft somebody else if we want.
But I think one of the things that is so clear in this league, what you don't want is chaos at quarterback.
Daniel Jones is not chaos.
He's not top 10, but he's somewhere between 12 and 16 maybe.
This season, so they would likely host a team like Kansas City,
unless Casey wins the division or Buffalo.
And I think that's a tough match.
So the Colts then, Colin, would have gone all in for Daniel Jones,
Sauce Gardner, giving up their future picks, sorry, and losing the first round.
And then Daniel Jones is going to be like, hey, hey, I need to get paid.
I, there are some troubling clouds ahead for the Indianapolis Colts.
Let's see.
Jay Mack with the news.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping by.
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
What's the news, name?
Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel
and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you
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help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with
Robert Smygel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are
trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where
Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays,
the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source,
the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.
The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real.
From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaders to controversial calls, we break it down,
give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered.
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Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me.
your host and your favorite therapist,
Kear Games.
And in recognition of mental health awareness month,
I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience
in the mental health field
and conversations with so many incredible guests.
I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark.
Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing,
we get so wrapped up in the chase
that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing
and we're still chasing it
and we don't know when we've done enough.
Because people scoreboard watch.
Life becomes about wins and losses.
Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth,
or are you a good person because you're afraid?
Because that's two different intentions, bro.
Absolutely.
And that's two different levels of trust.
I want you to just really be a good person.
Join me, Kear Gaines, is we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose.
On my new podcast, Learn the Hardway.
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The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself.
I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris.
Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay.
Jenchian win.
I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.
She's an outsider to win the French for me.
And she likes Clay.
Listen, Lerner Rabakina is arguably the best.
player in the world right now and I actually can win on any surface because if she's serving well good
luck consider this your court side seat to the french open listen to the ren stubbs tennis podcast on the iHeart
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women's sports start your saturday strong as michigan clashes with northwestern at a special venue
historic Wrigley Field.
It all starts with Big Noon kickoff at 10 a.m. Eastern, live from the heart of Chicago.
Then it's Michigan Northwestern.
Big Noon Saturday, only on Fox.
Poor Northwestern had to face USC at the Collie.
No match.
We always say this.
It doesn't take long in any field to see great.
Mahomes and Lamar Jackson, MVP's in their second year.
Joe Burrough, second year, Super Bowl.
And we don't even know if he has the right coach.
My rule is if you got the right coach or at least a super strong coordinator, hopefully both,
you'll be able to see by the second year if guy's going to be a legend.
That looks like Drake May in New England.
They don't have a number one receiver.
Running back by committee.
Offensive line solid.
Tight end.
I like Hunter Henry.
And he has spin of it.
I watched him last yesterday.
Todd Bulls, one of the best.
defensive minds in football had two weeks. They were off a bite. Two weeks to prep for him.
This kid can spin it. And this is a young emerging team. Kyle Williams, they haven't played a lot.
Trayvion Henderson's been running back by committee. Those are stars. They haven't played a ton.
Vrable's trying to work him into the system. So, I mean, all I know is I've watched him go on the road
and beat Josh Allen and go on the road and beat an outplay Baker Mayfield. And Todd Bulls had two
weeks to come up with a game plan for this young guy.
And we watched what Belichick did to Sam Donald.
We know young quarterbacks against elite defensive coaches can struggle.
Yeah, that's not it.
So I picked him as my double their win total team.
I think they're going to triple it.
And that's caught me off guard.
The other team that has nothing to worry about is Seattle.
It's a great story.
So the last couple of years, Pete Carroll, was in the,
Seattle. He and John Snyder
were not right. Snyder almost
left four years ago to be the GM of Detroit.
The Allen family paid him.
He stayed. It is
now John Snyder's drafts
and roster the last two and a half years.
He's built a monster.
He got a third round pick.
For Gino,
Sam Darnold is now less of a
cap hit than Taysam Hill.
They don't miss on draft picks.
Every position, then at the
trade deadline, Rashid, Caheed,
who gets to now work again
with his coordinator in New Orleans
last year
I mean, turn the sound down
this team
I think is the fastest team in the league
they have taken
35 nothing and 28-0-0
leads the last two weeks in the
first half. It gets sloppy
second half. It's hard to motivate guys.
Here's Sam Darnold
on another MVP-level
first-half performance.
It's a great team.
win. You know, I thought offensively we were, you know, really efficient in the first half,
second half. You know, got the run game going a little bit. Third quarter was a little
sloppy, obviously, with the turnovers. We've got to clean that up, obviously. But, you know,
to be able to, you know, end the game on our terms in four-minute situation, you know, running
the football out, you know, that's how you want to end every single game. And there's no
fool's gold here. Drake May is not doing dink and dunk. He is second in the NFL in yards per
attempt. He's throwing the ball down the field. Sam Darnold, no dink and dunk, throwing the ball
down the field. And in both cases, two of the best young offensive players for the Patriots,
Kyle Williams and Trayvion Henderson, they're kids. In Seattle's offense, second youngest in the
league. So you've got two young star quarterbacks surrounded by all sorts of ascending young
talent, meaning New England and Seattle, this is the beginning.
These are great, great personnel people, very strong leaders and defensive head coaches and the right offensive coordinators.
So Brian Daibald, the news of the day, it broke late first hour of the herd.
Brian Daibald's been let go.
Don't like firing coaches, especially best coach on the staff, middle of a season, but back-to-back years in New York, Jets and Giants do it.
there's a lot of reasons why they did it some of it is he keeps blowing leads the blue tent circus
with jackson dart a few weeks ago here's hassle back on the thoughts on what on what happened today
your star quarterback your prized possession uh he's been in that blue tent way too much i think he's
been evaluated from concussions four times since he's been playing recently and they're running him the way
that they were running like uh sayquan barkley you know they're all this quarterback run game i get it
you get an advantage in the run game that's working.
At the same time, you've got to have a little bit more care for the future of the franchise.
One other thing.
If you think the fact that Daniel Jones having the success that he's having with the Indianapolis Colts doesn't play into this decision as well, you're crazy.
Now, the Colts have a much better roster.
The Colts between Pierce and Pittman, Warren, Jonathan Taylor, the Giants used to have a running back like Jonathan Taylor.
they let him go to the rival eagles.
So Indianapolis has a tremendous roster.
Outside of the secondary, where they tried to solve it with Sauce Gardner, which I defend,
there's a reason Daniel Jones is cleaning up.
It's not just Shane Steichen.
Offensive line for the Colts, last week was read at number one.
Their tight end is a pro bowler as a rookie.
Jonathan Taylor right now is the best running back in the league.
So Daniel Jones is the beneficiary of a tremendous.
this roster. We've been on this for two years. Colt's roster's fine. They just didn't have a guy
competent enough to complete 60% of the throws. So you can throw Dable under a bus, but
neighbors hurt, Scataboo hurt, Andrew Thomas is, you know, excellent left tackle, banged up a lot.
And I think Dable got into a situation was Jackson Darts confident and athletic. I'm going to run
him. What else do we have here? I mean, they don't have a one or a two receiver. You know,
I mean, we said this.
The downside to having a coach in the hot seat, like Iber Fluse last year, or Brian Dable this year,
I mean, they're coaching to win games.
They're going to do whatever it takes.
Like, I get it.
You're trying to save your job.
And so he looks at it, and he's like, Jackson Darts, my best athlete.
I'm going to move him down the field, and he got banged up again.
So, you know, I can sympathize.
I think Dayball in Miami, I think Lane Kiffin and Brian Daibble,
stronger personalities, more alpha than McDaniel, feel like the fits to me.
How about this one, Colin?
Usually I don't read my mentions on social media.
Somebody hit me with, oh, yeah, you know where Brian Daibble was before the Buffalo Bills, right?
I look it up.
Alabama Crimson Tide, 2017.
Remember that year?
That was Jalen Hertz the starter.
Tua takes over.
Brian Dable calling plays all season.
And then I looked it up.
Dable has a history of saying great things about Tua.
I believe Brian Dable will probably get the first or second interview with Tua in Miami.
I don't think it's a bad hire.
No, not at all.
I don't.
He knows his skill set.
He was with him in college.
Miami can be a loud, chippy, harsh media market.
New York is.
Philadelphia is.
I think Dable with Miami is in play.
Hey guys, it's us.
The Jonas Brothers.
I'm Joe.
I'm Kevin.
And I'm Nick.
And guess what?
We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
We invented a.
podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it. We're the first people
to do podcasts. We get to ask other
people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked
questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong
way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas
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SNL, late night comedy guy, not
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and friends. Me and hilarious guests
from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman,
Help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,
help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app,
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Winning on Clay is an art.
The rallies are relentless.
And at the French Open, only the toughest survive.
I'd know.
I competed there for decades.
Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast
for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players,
and the moments that define Roland Garros.
She's an outsider to win the French name.
And she likes Clay.
Listen, Lennarabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now,
and I actually can win on any surface.
Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app,
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Last night, a blown call changed a game.
This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.
That's where SportsSlice comes in.
I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports
and giving you the real story behind the headline.
And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories,
their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear.
Listen to Sports Slice on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on.
A Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman.
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But how long can this alliance last?
Tell me what you know.
Is somebody coming after me?
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