The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right and wrong, more on Duke's epic collapse

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

He shares this week’s Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong – explaining why he was right about the Knicks but wrong about Eagles WR AJ Brown. Plus, Ryen Russillo from Barstool Sports joins the show to breakdown Duke’s epic collapse and why he doesn’t trust the Lakers in the playoffsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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At a pretty good week, here we go. Where Colin was right? Well, Michigan, I had Michigan getting to the final four and winning it, and right now they look as good as anybody. You know, let's be honest, the Big Ten is on fire. But when you watch Michigan, they're the only team. that checks every box. Dominant defensive center,

NBA guys, elite passing, three-point shooting, best passing team in college basketball in a long time, and the hottest coach on the market, Michigan, probably an easy call. Where Colin was wrong. You know I love the old school coaches.

Well, they got kicked to the curb in the elite eight. They left for the early bracket special. Now it's the young guys. Dan Hurley, I guess, qualifies as a bit older, but Tommy Lloyd and Dusty May in one of the matchups. I love my old coaches, but the truth is Dusty May and Tommy Lloyd are elite recruiters, and it has paid off.

Where Colin was right? I said when the NIL came out, the Big Ten's got more money, and I think they've got better coaching. The SEC was 0 and 6 against the Big Ten in the tournament, and a lot of the games weren't close. When Iowa beat Florida, to me, that was a real eye-opener because Iowa doesn't even have big NIL money. They were like 15th of the Sweet 16 teams in spending on NIL between the three straight natties in football and 6-0 in this tournament against the SEC. There is a new sheriff in town.

Where Colin was right? I've said tanking is not the number one concern for the NBA, but commissioners freak out when you say the word. And I was reading a column this morning. None of the NBA's three anti-tanking proposals would actually create a full stop for tanking. And my take has always been, if you're not going to allow other ways to acquire Wembe, then people are going to tank. And people are going to take the fine. NBA owners are billionaires.

That is glove compartment money. If you're going to get an all-time great play, I mean, look at this draft. the BYU, AJ DeBante, you got Peterson, you got Boozer. This draft goes like nine guys deep. Darius Acuff at Arkansas. That guy's going to pop immediately.

If you're not going to allow, like the NFL, the ability to trade anybody anytime, tanking's not going anywhere. Where Colin was wrong. I can't get A.J. Brown figured out. I would have traded him two years ago. It's a run team,

Roseman came out this weekend and said, you know what, he's a member of the Eagles, we love him. Is he just trying to use that as leverage? I don't know, but it's a run team. He's reading books on the sidelines. I mean, I think he's under, he's not undervalued. He's underused. Jalen Hertz, you know, you've got a quarterback. The Eagles self-admit they would like to throw less than 27 times a game, but every time you ask

them, every time you ask them, they tell you he's here for the long term. where Colin was right? Well, I said two games ago, the Knicks are not a championship team. The Celtics are going to win the East. It's either the Celtics, the Spurs are OKC, and the Knicks are 0 and 2. Since I said that, they're 0 and 5 against Detroit and OKC. They've got two big issues. At the end of games, they're two best players, Kat and Brunson.

You can hunt them defensively. And they're a bit of a finesse team, where if you're a physical team like Detroit is, even without Cade Cunningham, you can give them big problems. So I like the Knicks, but I do think they have to take a big swing in the off season, probably moving cat, because I would never move Jalen Brunson. Where Colin was right? I've been a defender of Rob Manfred. He gets a lot of flack, but he nailed it with a new ABS system. It has created a game show feel with the reveal. It's fun to watch. It doesn't pick on the umpires. Half the time with the challenges, the umpires get it right.

but the sport now moves quickly. The APS-A-BS system moves quickly. You do have to bat your helmet very quickly or you'll have a situation yesterday like you saw. But I think it's a home run and I think the unintended benefit, it's created a new level of strategy that's really fun. Where Colin was right.

Aaron Glenn said Gino Smith is our guy. We've got 100% confidence. Oh, give me a brief. break. There's not a jet fan alive who thinks that. Led the NFL and interceptions last season, has led the NFL and interceptions since 2022. I feel that Aaron Glenn, and I said this eight months ago, I would prefer offensive coaches. I do think there's some great young defensive coaches. Demico, Ryan's Mike McDonald, we'll see what Jesse Minter does. But man, they can be tone deaf to offense.

Colin right, calling wrong. So Ryan Rissillo is going to be joining us in a second. Do we have the radio call of Yukon beating Duke? Do we have that by chance, guys? Let's play this. I haven't heard this. Sarr gets it into Cam Booser.

Boozer back to Saar. Now ahead to Caden Boozer and Yukon got a steal. Caravan for Mullins, long three. Oh, he got it. He hit. He hit the long three-pointer from the logo with three-tenths of a second left to go. I don't believe it.

You've got his take of the lead. Oh, man. Well, somebody that knows Stores Connecticut and the state of Connecticut and the Yukon program now with Barstool Sports, our friend Ryan Rusillo is joining us. And, you know, it's just, you know, you can appreciate this. I tell people. You have no idea. Yukon is the center of basketball universe.

At one point, their football team was also going to a fiesta bowl, and they're in a cow pasture. If you've never been there, it's hard to explain. What do you think when you talk to your NBA guys, because he was offered the Laker gig, Ryan, what do you make of Dan Hurley, like his secret sauce? Is it schemes? Is it recruiting?

Is it intensity? They just don't lose in March. What is it? Yeah, this run is ridiculous. I mean, the last time they lost when they made it to a Final Four is 2009. They're 18 and O from the Sweet 16 on, and that's what happens to win a couple titles. So it's one-on last year and four wins this year. So, you know, I've had early on, I'm sure you've had them on as well.

I mean, the thing all started with Calhoun, maybe the 88 NIT, and then 90 they were the one seed when Leitner beat them in the regional final, you know, and that sent Duke to the Final Four. So, like, from 90 on, they didn't. didn't make it to a final four until 1999. So there was this Calhoun moment that almost like a decade goes by, which is easy to forget before they actually won the first title that set them on this path. But there is, you know, you could go to Calhoun's intensity, and it's always important.

Remember Kevin Ali's intensity, but, you know, we talk about culture all the time in sports. And every guy that's introduced at the press conference, he's behind the table in front of the logo, maybe at the lectern, he's like, oh, we're going to have this culture, we're going to have this culture. And usually all these guys are completely lying them. So like they don't know how to do it. They know what to say, but they don't know how to execute it. We see it all the time. And with Hurley, I just, when you watch these games and you see teams get back, get down big, you can see with the kids where it's like, well, we weren't supposed to win this thing anyway. And for Yukon, they came out in the half and they're like, hey, maybe if we just play tougher defense, they played with such defensive

of intensity because they still never made any shots until the last couple threes, they were still abysmal from three point range. And there was also this moment, too, where there was a sideline before from Tracy Wilson where you heard Hurley say, hey, the momentum is changed. The momentum is changed. I was kind of like, I don't really know that it's changed. We're just in the second half, and that was four minutes into the second half. So whatever it is, as crazy as he can be in the sideline, I think part of that crazy, that good crazy is being. so delusional in getting every single kid to believe you. You know, it's interesting, and I don't like banging on coaches.

I think John Shire is very good with schemes and very good recruiting. The downside to being a great brand like Duke, which has a beautiful campus and is legendary is your teams get young. I mean, they get five-star guys, and whereas Michigan and Yukon, they can go get, they're great programs, but Duke has this, you know, Lakers field to it where I'm watching them yesterday and again, I think Shire's a good coach. But when you have a young team, Ryan, you've got to call timeouts. Like there was, the boozers had seven turnovers. It was, it felt a little bit like it was a miss moment when you got a team that young. You and I know

that Phil Jackson used to believe let your team play through it. Well, you can't do that with 18 year olds like in March. I thought Shire didn't have a great moment. Is that too critical or is it fair. I probably was more frustrated with them last year, just not being able to inbound the ball against Houston that many times. Now, I think there was a laxness to them. There were certain things that they were doing at the top where they're looking at it as like, hey, I'm going to be out here, and then I'm going to swing it back to the top, and that's what we're going to start our offense. And when the defense knows you're going to do it, like, there has to be some intention. There has to be a better angle on that. And that's on players. And in this spot with Caden Boozer, like,

he's a freshman. He sees two open teammates down there. All I have to do is get the ball to them. So, you know, even though they're younger players, I still look at a lot of stuff that happened to the players and go like, how is this some fundamental flaw with John Shire's approach? You could say that maybe it'd be nice to have a senior out there. I'm sure he would love to have a senior out there. But Shire's not a good coach. He is a great coach. He's going to win a national championship at Duke. It's just to have these two losses on this stage and on top of that, Colin. ask you like, what seems to rally people more in sports than a Duke loss? People seem to love Duke losing in a tournament more than anything else that I can think. It might have the highest

approval rating. Like if you ran for office, Colin, because I know you're not going to let Stephen A be the only guy that thinks about being president. I just wonder if you would say, hey, I don't know about this. I don't know about that. But what I can tell you is, as long as Duke keeps losing in the tournament, you know, can I get your vote? And I think you would win. I think I'm going to leave Stephen A. Smith while all the political aspirations. So I went and watched Michigan play yesterday. And I watched it from, you know, a corporate suite, blah, blah, blah. I went with a cousin.

It wasn't my call. I like to be with the people. Anyway, I'm up to- Yeah, I know. That doesn't sound like you at all. Michigan passes the ball like an NBA team. And I'm not joking. Their half-court ball movement, they lead the tournament in assists by a lot. long margin. They're shooting over 40% on threes. And I think they've used the, I like the NIL,

because I think Cinderella wasn't winning this thing anyway. It's given teams like Michigan, another great NBA player or a UCon. I'm telling you from a half-court offense. I mean, I think Michigan's the team. Do you, do you, do you, I know they're not even favored against Arizona. I'm like, I don't know how you defend them collegially with their bigs. I love the way they're passing. I think you're right on with that. And they can invert. Like they can bring out their big guys.

Mara's passing is terrific. Lendenborg. I didn't really love their guards. And I get to college basketball late. You know, it's hard for me to do both every single night. But when I got into it late, you're like,

all right, I don't know that I really like their guards that much. And Lendiborg, you know, if he were 19, he'd be the number one draft pick, but he's going to be 24. It's just not the way that stuff works. His perimeter play has been so spectacular.

on top of his slashing his shot, making all this different stuff. Like, they can play, they can start their offense with huge players where, you know, some of the guard stuff that they do at times, Cadeau, like, has been really good. But maybe I'm emphasizing too much of the regular season Duke game where I thought there was some shot selection in there that didn't really like. So I think Michigan is terrific. I'd agree with everything you said, except for the part of Arizona. Arizona has seven guys that every single game you watch Arizona, it can be any of the seven

guys having a six, seven-minute stretch where it feels like they're taking over the game. Multiple ball handlers to close you out with. Coopiq comes out. It just dominates as a freshman. Krivoss is a ton of size. Karchenkov has been around. And Bradley's the conference player of the year. And sometimes you don't even notice him. And it's not because of his approach to the game. It's because they have all these other things. So look, certainly Michigan is good enough to win this game. But I don't know that I've seen a team that can attack in so many different ways. is Arizona. So, you know, I've asked people about this. It is such a good draft. I mean, the kid from Arkansas, Darius Acuff, he's small, not much of a defender. But if you, you know,

again, you bring him to the right NBA team that's got a rim protector and wings and three and Ds, he's an automatic, I mean, catch and shoot, drive and shoot, pass. He's just a glorious player offensively. But the story is going to be Peterson because earlier in the year I was told to watch him. And I mean, three times up the floor, you're like, Like, oh, that's what Kobe probably looked like at 18 years old. Like, it was just crazy. But he's got durability issues. He admits it got into his head.

He plays a little bit in a silo. You don't get a lot of assists. He's playing for himself. Today, if I'm a GM, I lose sleep with all the durability stuff. Or is this just overplayed? He's young. Where do you land on it with him? Yeah, I think the league, I know, like I talk to everybody,

but it seems like the league is less fascinated or worried by the whole thing because it was a media thing where hey it's number one pick I think a lot of us do come by late to college basketball drop in and then you go what's going on with that guy like yeah he's he's tapping out he doesn't seem to want to play in games I think the more alarming thing or maybe it's not even alarming it's just that when he finally started playing regularly to the closest season he wasn't playing as well But I would, I'd offer up, like, there's a shot that he hits against St. John's in the very beginning of the game. Like, he comes around, he has this catch and shoot three where it just looks exactly like what an NBA star is supposed to do. Where you can't help but go, oh my God.

Like, that's, that's why this guy is being talked about on top of like the 60 points going up against AJ in a high school showcase game, which is what all the draft guys are pointed. be like, if you would watch that game, you wouldn't even be talking about this kind of stuff. I also think it's important to look at like scores, young scores. Like, do they default to just scoring every single time to try to figure out a way to solve the game? And I don't think Peterson shows that at all. I don't think he's a selfish player. I think he's somebody who wants to move the ball.

He looks at the defense and goes, they're loaded up against me. I'm going to swing it and let somebody else go and I'm going to move around. So I think there's some understanding stuff from Peterson. It's really good. But you're totally right. Like with AJ's size and his output, with Boozer's efficiency being like historically off the charts, and Aikoff looking exactly like an NBA guard where you go, okay, so nobody can stay in front of him and he's super strong and he can change his hands at the rim to deal with taller guys, which is usually the thing that like send you to Europe or mission NBA All-Star.

A-Cuff has those kinds of things. You do wonder, and I mean, this is almost like a segment idea, but you go like, would a team if they were being totally, really honest, being like, I'd rather have like the second or third pick. Just like somebody else has to take the Peterson problem off. I mean, the answer is no, but in a moment of honesty, I wonder if somebody would ever just go, like, I thought about that. J-Mack, I'll give J-Mack credit. He said that last week.

He goes, I guarantee you there's a GM that's like, just give me the second pick. I'll take them. I don't want the pressure. So I want to ask you this, I think three teams can win the title. I think it's the Celtics. I think their culture, their coaching. Missoula has become very good. They've got veterans.

They got old at the post. Now they're younger in the front line. I think OKC. Wemby's ridiculous. I think he helps the offense more than people think. He's obviously great defensively in OKC. The team that people fall in love with, it's the Lakers. And I've made this argument is that the guy I always throw out.

I said, if you just had Jaden a McDaniels from Minnesota, a catch-and-shoot guy who can defend, I would give them credit. They don't have outside of Market Smart, their top six. guys are all lobsided. They either can't defend or they don't want to defend. But I think you can get away with that in the regular season when you come into town. I don't get a practice.

You got Austin having a great year. And LeBron and Rui and Lucas, and Aiton, they're hard to defend on a Tuesday night when you're playing a back-to-back. But I don't think they translate to a playoff team because they have three guys I can hunt. And a Chris Finch is going to say,

you know, SGA, aunt, when you force Luca to defend. I don't think they're guaranteed. I don't think they're guaranteed to win one series in the West. I think the first series will be tough. Where are you in the Lakers? If they play Houston, I'm picking the Lakers or to play in Denver or Minnesota, I'm picking the other

teams. It's that simple. I think we agree for the most part. I think this run has been great. I mean, Lucas stepped it up. It's the reason why everybody freaks out when anybody would even be traded, be like, hey, I don't know if he's going to age well. It's like, okay. All right.

He's one of the most unstoppable players. that we've ever seen. I still think like, I'll think of playoff games and go, hey, 17 seconds left score tied, whatever score you want to come up with, but like a close game, like get me a really good look. I don't know, I don't know if anyone's ahead of Luca. I really think he's that special at getting his own space, using his body, he doesn't have to go

fast, he doesn't need a screen, and then he has the passing on top of everything else. But I think the LeBron thing has been really interesting, Colin, because it's almost this praise of like he's accepted his role, and it's like, well, he's accepted this role because he's finally, it finally happened where the decline is here. Now, maybe with more days off, maybe with more specific game planning. But, like, LeBron at this point, I think there'll be like the huge playoff game,

but then there will also be a playoff game where it feels like the diminishing athleticism and him being hunted defensively is going to show up in certain matchups. I mean, like, what are we doing? I can still be respectful of the greatness while also breaking down what I think the 2026 NBA playoffs are going to look like. And I don't, I'm worried about that. You know, I'm worried about that with the collection of all the other guys. I mean, Aitin's been a little bit better, but he's not somebody that I necessarily want to bank on. I think Houston's closing offense is still such a mess.

Like, I do not trust them at all that I'd pick the Lakers in that one. The size Minnesota stuff, sure Aitin's there now, but I think that would be another problem. And look, Denver is better this year, despite the defensive numbers, despite the terrible clutch numbers that don't make any sense. They're always one of the best clutch teams in the league. They've been abysmal. But if you're telling me, like a seven-game series against the Lakers and what the Denver Nuggets did last year to OKC, but we weren't even that excited about them a year ago,

and Gordon's hamstring and they take OKC to seven, I'm cooler on Denver than, say, last summer, Colin. But I think it'd be a shock for the majority of people out there to pick the Lakers against them, even if the seeds are off. By the way, you're either got your arm in a sling because you've benched too much, or you've got a camera and you're just sightseeing Manhattan Beach. What is that, what is that thing there? Well, I don't know if you saw that the Louis Vuitton summer line dropped.

I'm sure you get the alerts too. But no, it's a sling. We did some weighted wide grip pull-ups yesterday at our equinox out here. And the very top, I felt something I've never felt before. But we're going to be back. And shout out to Mike Greenberg, back in better than ever. I'll be fine I mean

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wearing a sling and you're always limping into work. I'm out here having red striped beers in the best shape of my life, living life for the fullest. I can't believe. So he's doing pull-ups and he threw out his shoulder. Poor guy. By the way, he used to go to my gym. I'm going to text him here in a sec. He's jacked, obviously.

You know, I'm just cut up. You like to think I'm ripped. He's actually jacked. That guy lives a lot of weights. I can't believe he got hurt. That stinks. I have seen Ryan. You don't want to stand next to him in like the team picture when you win the championship because

he just dwarfs you. Yeah, yeah. Totally. Well, a lot of guys dwarf you, but that's another segment. You love taking jabs at me, buddy. You're the broad party of talk show hosts. Oh, damn. You get on heaters, but you get dinged up a lot. So I get to the show and then we go to the Super Bowl. Is that what you're saying? All right, great stuff. Ryan Day, Ohio State coach, who, what do they have? 13 guys going to get drafted in the first three rounds. We'll be joining us. We're live in Chicago. It's the hurt.

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Now I'm telling you, I've talked more college basketball in the last two years, and I've always said this. It's not my job to cover your team or your sport. It's your job to be interesting. I've covered more baseball in the last three years. I've covered more college basketball and college football. I thought last year's college football, see, this is what the NIL's done that I love, is that we had about a 15-year stretch in college basketball.

If you were any good, you were a freshman. If you stayed in college three years, you were an NBA player, maybe you go play overseas. Now, Michigan's got five-star guys, young guys, old guys, and the quality of the basketball, watch Michigan pass and shoot. I mean, again, you go back, you go back to Duke Butler, was that 15 years ago, Duke Butler shot 39 percent, and then Butler played U.C. the next year. They shot 31%. Nobody could hit open jumpers. It was awful.

It was unwatchable. It was garbage. Now the ratings are exploding because the quality is better. I said this with college football watching Indiana and Miami. Like the ability to go and get for a good program with a great

coach, a really high-end quarterback, I mean, college football's issue was always, it was as fun to watch as the quarterback play was. Well, now all these big brands can have young five-star players, but they can go get a four-star quarterback from a mid-major. I mean, I thought Indiana and the Miami Hurricanes, I thought that was the closest I'd ever watched a college football game that looked like an NFL game.

The play calling, much more sophisticated, more motion, more sets. I like college, but I like high-end college. And NIL is jet-fueled the biggest program. I mean, you're watching Illinois, and their pace, that's. That's an NBA pace. You watch Michigan's passing. That's NBA passing. So I know a lot of you're like, oh, I love college.

I like excellent. I got nothing against public golf courses, but if you're giving me a choice, I'd take Augusta. Right? That's why I don't mind dynasties. I want great athletes playing alongside other great athletes. I'm watching Ohio State's defense last year. You got like five NFL guys first second round. Jay Mack with the news.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's work at some NFL draft quickly, Colin Fernando Mendoza, presumptive number one pick, less than four weeks away from the draft. And according to Daniel Jeremiah, Mendoza has been getting to work with Brian Greasy to install Clint Kubiak's offense. And Jeremiah added that Mendoza is full speed ahead on making sure he's up to speed when he's eventually drafted by the Raiders.

I'm sure some of this is just Mendoza geeking out on being a pro, but I think some of it is probably this nonsense that, oh yeah, maybe they go get cousins to start, and Mendoza will come in when he's ready, which I think is total nonsense. But I like Mendoza. He's ready to go. This is not some young kid who's inexperienced.

Three-year college starter. Let's go. Get him under center week one. Yeah, I mean, this is why I think he is, I think a lot of times we pay so much attention to the physical part of quarterback play. But give an example, Aaron Rogers no longer runs. Aaron Rogers isn't that committed in the offseason. But Aaron Rogers, just on intellect and situational excellence,

goes to the Steelers, and they went from an awful red zone offense to one of the top five or six in the league. How? They didn't have a top five-o line. They didn't have a top five or receiving core. So much of this sport is above the shoulders. And yes, it's great to have. have, you know, a big arm and be able to move.

But Lamar Jackson's not winning playoff games. You know, I'm not blaming anybody, but if you start looking at what works in this league, it's great offensive coaching, it's total commitment. It is, you know, it's just doing stuff off the field. And we, I mean, again, Drake May has got great physical tools. Mahomes has great physical tools. But even a Mahomes, if you give them no run game and a bad offensive line can get walloped. And so when I look at Mendoza, everybody's like, well, he's a little steve.

He's not that mobile. All I know is he's big, has great ball placement, and is like Brady obsessed with the sport. I'm good. That's a pro-bowl-level quarterback if he gets any coaching. Totally agree. And I'm sure some people's heads exploded when you said Lamar Jackson's not winning playoff games. I just did a quick check, three and five in the playoffs. So that's actually accurate.

No, you're right. Lamar doesn't win in the playoffs. I love him. and he's the most mobile quarterback in the history of the sport. Yes. That's great. But my whole point is Josh Allen, never been to a Super Bowl. He's the greatest athlete that's ever played quarterback.

John Elway, before he had a run game, was getting blown out in Super Bowls. You can talk about all the physical gifts. Are you obsessed by football? Do you have the right offensive coach who lets you play but has structured? So much of this sport is before the game starts. and that's not to say that Lamar and Josh Allen and John Elway weren't committed, but they're all ridiculously hyper-athletic, and Josh can't even, Josh and Lamar can't get to Super Bowls,

and I would argue they're the two most talented quarterbacks in the last 10 years. You know who did get to a Super Bowl? Small guy, Brainiac athletic Brock Purdy, who's five and two in the playoffs. Just thought I'd toss that in there since you loved digging him. All right, let's move on to a quarterback who's won a Super Bowl. Matthew Stafford, Colin. I feel like we have this discussion every year. Is Stafford going to come back?

How long is he going to stay? So as of right now, he's very excited about this Rams team. And people are saying, well, maybe Safra could stay for multiple years. Or does he walk away after winning the Super Bowl at SO-Fi this year? Here's McVeigh talking about all things, Stafford and the Rams. That's always the great challenge. Is you want to make sure that you're maximizing the opportunity you have with him, while also not be a naive to, hey, I'm hopeful to be with the Rams for a long time.

And, you know, he's going to be able to play as long as he's able to, whether that's one, two more. Who knows, he might, you know, be one of those guys that he lays late into his 40s. And I wouldn't have a problem with that. But those are dialogues and discussions that we have a lot. And it's always figuring out that balance of, you know, continuing to build and take advantage of what a unique player you have, while also not being naive to eventually we are not going to have the luxury of having him as our guy. Well, I think when they made the Trent McDuffie move and had to give up multiple draft picks, they told you, because I thought they would draft the backup quarterback in this draft,

but the Trent McDuffie move told you, we're going all in. That tells me Stafford's coming back for two more years minimum when the Trent McDuffie move, because if he wasn't, what you would do is you would keep your draft capital, you would like build a fortress around Stafford, but build a team ready to move on from Stafford. You're giving up draft capital. you know you're going to have to pay Stafford a lot. McDuffie is a Super Bowl getter. That, to me, tells you, Stafford's around for years.

Look at those stats on the screen. Stafford aging like fine wine. Then again, in his 20s, he was in the Detroit Lions, one of the most losing organizations in professional sports history. You go to the Rams and McVeigh, and all of a sudden you're cooking. Seven and three in the playoffs, they have the best team, Super Bowl's at SoFi. I mean, listen, everything's lining up for the Rams this year.

Look at, go look ahead. is an interesting think piece. Stafford wins a Super Bowl. Aaron Rogers, Stafford, who had a better career. All time? All time. Better career. Oh, you go Stafford. Yeah, you go Stafford. Okay, but I think your opinion, because Roger Aaron didn't start well and hasn't necessarily finished well. Stafford went to a losing organization, but he could end up if he plays this year and next, he could end up with the last eight years of his career being Pro Bowl every single one of them. with a great playoff record, better than Aaron, and more Super Bowls than Aaron. I keep saying this, no player in pro football outside of maybe Sam Darnold, but no great quarterback in my lifetime can literally flip the narrative and go from the 20th best ever to like top 10 with the Super Bowl. Because we all know, we've said this for years, he may throw the best ball in the league.

Yeah. That's interesting. So Rogers Peak, where he was collecting MVP's was amazing. But Stafford's been more consistent, and I think this matters, Colin, the whole locker room stuff. Stafford is beloved everywhere he goes. People like him. He's a nice guy. Rogers is a little less of that.

I don't, if Rogers is watching this, he's probably like, damn, and I'm coming back. But you're not winning. You're not winning a Super Bowl with the Steelers. You're not even contending. So, yeah, I would probably agree with you. Sounds like you're sharpening some off-season takes there, huh? Final story to the UFL, Colin. Week 1 in the books.

How about this one? We had our first four-point field goal, a 60-yarder. Here's the call from Defenders Blackhawks. This is going to be a 60-yard field goal. Folks, it'll be for four points as part of the new rules in the U.FL. McCrane got it up. They score four. The defenders take a four-nothing lead on the,

the league's first 60-yard field goal for four points. Well, it'd be hard to do that in the NFL because so many guys can now, 57, because it's, I don't know what happened. Maybe it's, they've changed the football a little bit. I think that's what it is. 56-yard field goals, they don't feel automatic. Well, they do for the Cowboys. Yeah.

But a 56-yard field goals feel like, well, he won't be short. I know that for sure. He may be wide left or right, but you won't be short at 56 yards. you talk about this all the time about baseballs changing things and making exciting and why doesn't the NFL just go to this this is exciting on 60 yards so it's interesting the quarterback took the sack the play before this and they got knocked back a few yards so it went from like 57 were 3 to 60 verse 4 and and and it's almost like it's not the you take a sack on third down and field goal range what's interesting is what what is interesting

is that the strategy, what if it's a three-point game late, UFL, and you feel like, listen, we got a couple guys banged up, the only way we got to win this thing now, and you take a four-yard loss to have a potential four-point kick. So you're literally, in football, you don't do this. You are planning a play to go backwards. that that will absolutely happen this season. I mean, I think that's cool. Anyways, congrats to the Battlehawks.

I'm sorry, Battlehawks. Is this in the NFL? Twelve field goals last year in the NFL made of 60 plus yards. I can remember forever Tom Dempsey of the Saints. I mean, it was in the Guinness Book of World Records. My parents gave me when I was a kid. I swear to God, he held that record for, it seemed like, decades. A T-Kicker?

Yeah, well, yeah, he, yeah. The straight ahead. Yeah, yeah. J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

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We got a huge baseball doubleheader coming your way on FS1. First at 6 Eastern, catch Ellie Delacruz and the Reds versus the Pirates. Then at 930, it's the Giants and Padres in an NL West showdown. Catch it all tonight on FS1.

Speaking of the Reds, umpire C.B. Buckner did not have a particularly great Red Sox Reds game. The 8th The ABS system has been introduced by baseball. Now, one of the great advantages baseball has.

They can experiment with stuff, as all of you know in the minor leagues, they did it with a pitch clock for years. I tell the story. I sat on a Delta flight once next to a general manager of the Richmond baseball team, and we talked pitch clock for like two hours, and I remember he said it's going to shave 20 minutes off a game, and it shaved just about 20, 25 minutes off a game. Well, the ABS system gives you a lot of things.

It gives you the challenge. It gives you the reveal. And it gives you this crazy reaction from the fans. And so I want to play, and we didn't have to do a lot of editing here. I want to play you what happened during a Red Sox Reds game. Suarez is the batter for Cincinnati and let's play it. It's powered by Team Mobile. Now the 2-2.

You know, it's so funny watching baseball, the old stodgy sport. and their commissioner, like any business, you would tweak it. It doesn't matter if you own a tech company. It doesn't matter what you could own a feed store. You got to listen to the consumer. Ratings were down, attendance was down, the game was too plotting. Like great baseball people like Tom Burducci a few years ago, is like the game is hard to watch, and I do this for a living.

And you've always got your kind of old school people that don't want changes, but baseball has made about six changes. And yet the NBA, which is viewed as the progressive, League won't make like really strong changes to load management, the repetition, the kind of homogenous three-point game where everybody shoots threes, you get 70 a game. So I mean, baseball is a graded example of you have this great sport that America loves. And the numbers and the attendants told you it was just increasingly plotting and difficult to watch. And it's just pitch clock, ABS system, ban the defensive shift.

same great game much more quickly. College football, and I love college football, it got to a point about five years ago. Games were lasting four and a half hours, and you're like, guys, you stop the clock too much. Speed it up. People, you may want to watch your Buckeyes for four and a half hours, but if you don't have an allegiance,

you're not going to get casual fans. You can't ask people to watch two football games, and it takes nine and a half hours. So I think this is great. And it really, you know, people, it'll make the umpires look unqualified. It's the opposite. First of all, they're right half the time on the challenges. Half the time they're right.

And when they're wrong, very infrequently, is it ever more than an inch? It's just on the edge. So it makes me think, first of all, major league hitters have an unbelievably keen understanding of the plate and the dimensions of it. I mean, they can feel it. Like, that's just, that's missing. And that was rare where one batter, one umpire you got, you know, back to back. But it shows me how skilled the batters are. And it shows me that by and large, the average umpire is really good.

And the other thing is one of the things that legalized gambling is done in the country. And it was, you know, I think it was pretty predictable, is that anytime somebody loses a game, No, it's the officials. I saw Tennessee fans yesterday. Oh, Tennessee could not beat Michigan if they played a dozen times. You're not in the same class. The coach is better at Michigan,

a much better passing team that got better NBA bigs. Michigan is 20 points better than Tennessee if they played in Knoxville. Like, they're just better. But it's like, well, baseball is eliminating this. Because the one thing you always complained about was, Oh, the balls and strikes. That's over. Now it's on you.

If you don't pat your head, that's on you. Don't blame the umpire. That's your batter not being quick. So, um, tech. Learn it, live it, love it. Tech. Now, we're going to have a 38% unemployment rate with AI. So we're going to have a lot more time to watch baseball is the way I look at it.

Jay Mack. I may buy a season ticket package to the Guardians. Well, that's what the... 38% unemployment rate is terrifying. We are in a depression if that's happening. Dystopian outcomes. Here they come. Boy, this show turned dark real quick as we head into the power hour.

Holy hell. Oh, my... I don't even... United States men's national team, Jay Mack. Oh, my God. Are we going to talk about the Belgium game? Oh, my... How about we talk about the ridiculous uniforms?

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