The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right and wrong, Shohei Ohtani had a night to remember, Bears revamped offense, Matt Hasselbeck

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Colin dives into Where Colin Was Right, Where Colin Was Wrong – from calling Matthew Stafford and the Rams' performance to owning up to a misstep about Dodgers phenom Shohei Ohtani Plus, former NFL quarterback and 3-time Pro Bowl selection Matt Hasselbeck joins the show to give an inside look at the Chicago Bears revamped offense and QB Caleb Williams, which has propelled them to their fourth consecutive victorySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All five minutes. J-Mack, you know, over the course of a week, I have a lot of opinions. Many miss the mark, and this is the moment where I stand in front of America and am a little bit of a dartboard. It's called Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, and here we go on a Monday. Where Colin was right? Well, I played Blind Resumet with Bow Nix Friday. Remember that?

We all thought that was kind of fun. Blind Resumay, and I said with Bo Nix. He's really good. He's a franchise quarterback. He's just inconsistent. But he just became the first player ever to have two rushing touchdowns and two passing touchdowns in a quarter. The last five possessions for Bo Nix

against the great defense, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. He's really athletic, under 15 yards, really accurate, can struggle with a deep ball, is not there yet, but he is a franchise quarterback, and that's all I've said. Where Colin was wrong. Last year's Washington Commander's magic has evaporated. I thought they'd be a play.

team for a decade. They feel a little old and a little slow. They're now three and four, and here comes the Chiefs, the Seahawks, and the Lions. Nothing is working. The defense is mid. Run game is okay. Jaden Daniels is banged up, but there wasn't 15 minutes yesterday where I didn't think Dak was in control of that game. I missed on the commanders. I did not think it was a one-off. I thought it was a new era, and maybe it will be, but it's not now. Where Colin was right? I've said Sean McBay is the second best coach and pro football. The Rams fly-in Saturday. It's a 24-hour business trip with no Pooka Nakuwa, and it was one of the more crisp, efficient, detailed game plans ever. How many tight ends did they throw to?

They had two rookies catching touchdown passes. And Stafford, as we've said, is the best pure pocket guy in the league. I mean, you were watching a well-oiled organization against the Jags. And after the Jags beat Kansas City, I said, this is not sustainable. This is not a well-run, well-oiled operation. I thought Stafford, if he doesn't make the Hall of Fame, he's the greatest player in this league, not in the Hall of Fame, because he is magic missing his star,

throwing the seventh round wide receivers in London, and they were jet lagged and got in Saturday for a Sunday game. Where Colin was wrong. I was wrong on Shoah Otani. I just said he was better than Babe Ruth. I didn't say he's the best team sport athlete ever. He won MVP of that series for one great game. Six innings, two-hit ball, 10 strikeouts.

Does he have the best split finger in the sport? he's throwing a hundred he had more hits Friday against Milwaukee than he surrendered and one of those balls that he hit appears to have left the stadium here it is the right-hander patrick deals and otani towering wall high drive right field he's done it again Chohay Otani to the top of the pavilion in right field 469 feet the longest home run at Dodgers Stadium this year Freddie Freeman's reaction

What did I just watch Where Colin was right Said about three weeks ago the Indianapolis culture for real They should be undefeated they had the Rams beat Running back wide receiver, tied end. They have pro bowlers. O-line has to be top three in the league.

They ran over the Chargers, and I know L.A.'s beat up on the offensive line, but I've been defending Chris Ballard for years. I'm like, folks, this roster's good. There are stars in every unit. This is a really, really good team. They just needed a quarterback. They've got one, and they hammered.

Harbon Herbert yesterday. Where Colin was wrong. I'm not saying it's all his fault. But Cam Ward feels a little college-y right now. He's doing a little hero ball. A lot of mistakes. He's trying to force plays. Listen, I don't know who to blame.

It feels a little like Caleb last year in Chicago. It's not a very good staff. But he's been sacked 30 times. Doesn't have a great feel for the pocket. More picks than touchdowns. One in six record. I didn't think it would look like this. I, for a long time, until the last week before the season,

season. I said they could be a playoff team. Then I bailed on it. It's ugly. Where Colin was right? Well, we predicted. I did. I said Notre Dame in cold weather would beat USC by 10, and they would beat them soundly because they would run all over USC, and that's exactly what they did. For the record, Jeremiah Love is going to be a first round running back. He may not be Bijon Robinson, but he's close. Nine and a half yards of carry. The kid's great. USA had some weird play calling. They were okay on offense, but this was a bad matchup off that Michigan game. The Irish had 3006 yards rushing, and Lincoln Riley has not proven the ability to be tough,

good running teams on the road. He hasn't done it in four years at USC. Where Colin was right? Tua is toast. I did not get at any level the extension. I don't get how they built the team. If you have Tua, you have to have a good offensive line. You have to build it around the running game and he can throw on play action. I thought he looked frightened yesterday. We all know he's not a cold weather quarterback, but four times this year he's been under 200 yards. I'm not blaming it all on him, but I am blaming the dolphins on extending him when he had concussion, concerns. Quarterbacks need help.

Cam Ward and Tua haven't had a lot of it, but it's got to look better than what I've seen this year with Tua. And with that, 18 years in the league, Matt Hasselbeck is joining us live on a Monday. All right, let's start. I mean, I compared Bo Nicks yesterday. Clay Thompson of the Warriors once had 37 points in a quarter. That doesn't make him Steph Curry.

It doesn't make him KD, but it makes him damn, good. So if you can score 33 points in a quarter as a quarterback, I'm not giving you all the credit, but there is some, there is something about Boe Nicks. You know, a lot of guys hang their head. And I thought Jackson Dart looked really good. But I mean, what do you make of a quarterback that is so bad early and so amazing late? He's got great confidence to stay in there. You know, the coach has confidence in him and he's got his own confidence. That was an incredible game. I mean, And if you haven't seen that game, go rewatch it. It was absolutely incredible, one for the ages.

Yeah, they start with the ball in the red zone in the fourth quarter, but it was great play by Bonex. And he got a little bit lucky, too, which I think you need that as well. But I think he's a better, way better than advertised runner. You know, the two touchdown runs that he had were incredible. But I just think if you were to lock up one thing, something you cannot test for at the combine, it's that no-flinch gene that some quarterbacks have

and other quarterbacks don't. And I think he's weathered the storm of, you know, ups and downs in his college career. He played at a bunch of different places. He's way more mature than, you know, someone with his years of experience in the NFL. But he's got a coach that also believes in him. And I think he got him back in rhythm with some screenplays, maybe even a little bit of quarterback run game. And it was just incredible. I thought both quarterbacks were excellent yesterday.

Really, really fun game to watch. I will say this about Jackson Dart. And to your point. I thought that what we thought was going to be a game-winning drive. Jackson Dart's a better pro than I thought. I watched him at Ole Miss with Lane Kiffin, and he was hot and cold. He doesn't make a lot of – he had one really bad pass. Again, it's Denver.

It's an aggressive defense. I'm just going to give you a bad throw. You're not playing perfect against that pass rush. Forget it. I thought Jackson Dart was really impressive. What say you? Absolutely. I mean, and he's giving Giants fans hope, something they haven't had in a long time.

my favorite thing, listen, just because he threw that interception that, you know, ultimately was one of the plays that led to their loss, like in the long run, this is going to be great for his career. It's going to be great for it. Like every quarterback, you throw an interception, you never, ever forget it. I'm 50 years old. I still remember an interception in, you know, whatever year that, like, save me from other, you know, led me to other big successes because of that one mistake. And you listen to him at Jackson Dart at the podium. He was incredible. It wasn't, oh, we can't turn the ball over. over it there. It was like, no, that's me. That's, I have to do better. Like a lot of I, you know, taken blame, not we. You hear we had way too many quarterbacks at the podium. It's not, it's not we, dude, you through the pick. It was you. And that's the thing I loved about Jackson. Like, it was almost like he was brought to tears over it. Even dayball. Like this team is going to rally around this quarterback. They, I mean, they already have. So like, I'd listen, I know it's a loss and I don't want to be a moral victory guy, but with a young quarterback, this is something, it's a huge step.

I mean, this is something where the locker room is going to love him, the league's going to respect him. I thought it was a really great game to watch. Two young quarterbacks who are going to be playing a long time, in my opinion. So I'm interested to hear this. Whenever you go to a game, it's different than just watching TV, even watching the 22 film. When you're live, I remember watching Bo Nix and Michael Pennix live in Husky Stadium,

and I sat in a couple of different places, and it really gives you perspective on, do they see the field? You know, live is different. So you're live yesterday, you're watching Drake May. So on television, he looks amazing and accurate. What did you see that I can't because you're there? I think it's a good team. Patriots are pretty good.

I mean, I think they're not getting a lot of respect, not getting a lot of talk. A bunch of veterans that aren't necessarily superstars, especially in their passing game and their running game. It's very much a committee offense. Drake's special, though. He's got special, special throws in his game. My concern for him is just protecting him. He's a great athlete.

And I think, you know, even yesterday, he ended up in the blue tent unnecessarily. Yeah. You know, I had a quarterback coach. He basically would say things like, hey, can we have less adventure on our throwaways? Can we have less adventure when you decide to run the ball? And I think that's the advice I would give Drake May is that, you know, like his best thing, one of the best things that he could do for his team is not miss any games this year. And that would be the one critique.

But other than that, I mean, this is a Josh Allen in development. type of player. He's that talented. And I think that, you know, for the Patriots, they really feel like they got something special. And then being there live, Colin, it was basically all Patriot fans there yesterday. And the Vrable chants were being chanted by both Patriot fans and Titans fans. So Mike Vrable, I think everyone would agree he's a heck of a coach. Yeah. So I said this earlier. I know it's a singular game. If Matt Stafford doesn't make the Hall of Fame, then I think it's ridiculous. You cannot watch him to fly in.

I mean, jet lagged, no puka. He's throwing to a seventh round rookie touchdown. He's throwing to a rookie, two rookies caught it. I'm in, listen, this is not a great O line. Jacksonville a couple weeks ago led the NFL in takeaways. Jacksonville, it's their second home. That game was Stafford. Listen, it's just a really good organization.

as a former quarterback when you watch Stafford and that arm talent, what do you see? Well, he's always had the armed talent. I mean, his problems were, you know, especially back in the day in Detroit, getting a little sloppy with it. And, you know, trust in his arm arrogance is what I think people called it back then. No, he's unbelievably talented. He's super fun to watch. Weird things happen overseas in these games, though.

Like, you never know who's going to show up. Like, you know, you think Jacksonville would be better at it, more mature. with it. No, the Rams, it was a clinic. You know, Stafford had like five touchdowns. I think four of them, though, were like less from the five-yard line in. I mean, it was a weird stat line kind of day. He spread the ball around great, to your point. No, Puka, I think 10 different guys caught passes. Great game plan. McVeigh, Stafford, they know what they're doing. But it was really unique. I think even Devante had, I think it had three touchdowns for like 35 yards. It was like a weird stat day. But sometimes when you're banged up and you're missing a star player,

You've got to go win games in a unique way. And I think that, you know, to your point about a Stafford at his age, he did just that. And he did it perfectly. And, you know, he's probably feeling pretty good right now. And you usually can't say that as a veteran quarterback. Yeah, somebody said after the game, you may get knighted after that. And he just said, can I get a sword? All I care about.

Can I get a sword? All I care about. So, you know, body language matters. I remember years ago turning on Jay Cutler and just saying, I don't like his body language. Like his buddies on the team don't hang around him on the sideline drove me crazy. And I was critical of errands sometimes in Green Bay. He's by himself.

And I was like, I don't like that. But when I watched Ben Johnson watching Caleb on some of those passes, his resting face is discouraged. I'm watching it. I'm like, he's not going to eye roll. He's not going to yell at him. But watching them yesterday, my takeaway is Ben Johnson knows what this team is, Matt. and it's a run team, it's a yards after the catch team,

and it's a takeaway team. We talk about Caleb, but he's a supporting actor here. That's what it feels like to me is Ben's made the decision is we went and got Dolman, Joe Tuny, Jonah Jackson, we're going to run the football here. And I think it's the right call.

Well, I think Ben Johnson is, you know, some first time head coaches, they sort of struggle. They learn on the fly. They make a lot of mistakes. You say, like, yeah, this guy, he was just a lot of. coordinator. He's not really head coach. I don't think anyone's feeling that way about Ben Johnson. I think everyone feels like Ben Johnson know like the bear's got the real deal. Like he's the real

deal. And I think he's got great confidence in how he develops quarterbacks, what he wants for his team, what he wants for what he wants for his offense. And Caleb is supremely talented. So I think that this could work. But Ben Johnson isn't really the type doesn't seem the kind of guy that's going to change or adjust. It's kind of like, hey, Caleb, we're going to play on time. We're going to play on rhythm. We're going to run my, my scheme. I'm not going to put training wheels on you. Like, we're going to take shots early and often. Like, that's part of what we're doing.

And if you want to be on board, you want to do it my way, this can work. If you want to revert back to what you did in high school and college because you were more talented than the people around you, then maybe you're not my guy. And I do think it is working. There are times where he kind of reverts back into kind of what you were talking about earlier, about, you know, what Cam Ward is kind of reverting back to a little bit. And sometimes it's tougher for someone who's really, talented to just play within a system. I think that's going to be the hardest thing for

this marriage, but it could work. As long as they keep winning and Caleb keeps sort of buying in, I think it could work. So I'm watching Kansas City. They've rebuilt their O-line three times in six years. They maybe have rebuilt their receiving core four times in seven years. They do a really good job, I think, of identifying their mistakes and quickly course correcting. Is that, I mean, I know great GMs in this league who would tell me privately that I don't want to put it out there. They're like, oh boy, I just totally whiffed on our third round pick. Everybody makes mistakes in this league. But I'm watching Kansas City, and I watched them yesterday, nine different receivers.

And it's just like, now I look at their receiving core. Three weeks ago, it's a mess. Now I'm like, is it the deepest in the league? In all your years in the NFL, you had really good coaches and really smart people. if a coach did make a mistake or a GM did make a mistake, were you ever in meetings where people just said, we're going to course correct? This doesn't work.

This does. Because I feel like Kansas City is constantly fluid. They're constantly because they pay Mahomes, Chris Jones and Kelsey, right? They've got to bring Juju Smith back. Let him go. They've got to bring him back. What do you make of what they've done to this receiving core in the last three years? Now it looks like it's the deepest in the league.

Yeah. Well, as a player, I never needed someone to take accountability at the podium. Like, I didn't care if the head coach or the GM or anybody got to the podium and said it, but I cared greatly. And I think all my teammates did of what was said in the locker room, what was said in the team meeting room, when a coach or the organization, like, you know, says, hey, are bad, you know, like, we love that. We love that. I thought what was really interesting about the chiefs.

Like, I think the chiefs have one of the best cultures of any organization in sports in terms of like, hey, we're in this together. It's us against the world, even though the world's really not against you. You mentioned it. Nine different guys caught the ball. However, like the number one targeted guy, I think with 10 targets was Rishi Rice. This is a guy that, you know, whatever you might feel about him, in that locker room, that is our brother. That is our teammate. That is our guy. And they had a concerted effort from the 10-yard line, from the 5-yard line, screens to him, push passes to him. Welcome back, number four. Here we go. you're our guy you know we we're going wherever you help take us like that's a that's an effort

that the locker room rallies around um and you saw it in the play calling you saw mahom in fact mahom's two worst plays that probably should have been picked where when he was forcing the ball to rishi rice so like he's got he's got an effort to make you know bring the guy along get back right away i don't know there's just something special about when a team comes together that way from top to bottom and top to bottom and then i when i say bottom i'm talking quarterback, franchise quarterback, that's not really bottom. Yeah. Finally, every time I watch the Packers, they leave me wanting just a little more.

And I'm like, I like them. They are super young like Seattle. I understand it's a process. They may look different in 12 weeks. Yesterday I'm like, okay, why is Jacoby Brissette look like Joe Montana? Why is he completing balls? And then I think, well, Arizona at home, they've got McBride, they've got good players. looks like Larry Fitzgerald, Marvin Harrison, excuse me,

Marvin Harrison now is developing into something. It is, do young teams, I mean, every time I watch Green Bay, I'm like, okay, why aren't they winning this comfortably? Or am I overvaluing their talent? Well, I think they're young. I mean, Green Bay is a young team. Jordan Love has got great potential, but I think we just think automatically, he's like, hey, why aren't you playing like Farvin, Aaron Rogers?

Like, you know, it's just what Packer quarterbacks do. He's still a young player. I think defensively, you know, they've got a new defensive coordinator, somewhat new, and Jeff Hathley, he hasn't been there that long. And I think, you know, they played great last year. He started out great this year. They had Michael Parsons. They're trying to figure out the pieces.

I think this is a good team. Parody in the NFL, it's a real thing. And especially in that division, I think a lot of people had the Minnesota Vikings. If J.J. McCarthy was going to be a guy, it's like, oh, the Vikings are going to take that division. It's not. You know, now you got the bears are probably overachieving. The lions are great. Packers took it to the Lions week one.

You know, I do think that this is a team that I wouldn't be afraid to say this is a playoff team that could really do something special. But, yeah, I guess I hear what you're saying with the Arizona game. But Arizona, to me, is just always been this, like, spoiler team. I don't care who you are. If you're the Rams, if you're the Seahawks, if, you know, like, you go down there. That's a tough, that's sort of a tough game. usually it's Kyler and not Jacoby, but I'm not giving up on Jordan Love.

I think this team will hit their stride at the right time. But I get your feelings with that, and I'm sure Packer fans somewhat agree with you. By the way, you went to Boston College. The UCLA Bruins, you are bandwagoning just now suddenly. They are red hot yet's funny. They let go with their coach. They bring in the assistance. They're on fire as a program.

It is amazing to watch sometimes in college football. I'm like, it's a totally different juice, totally different vibe with UCLA. Is it not? Yeah, well, for the record, I am a UCLA parent now, and my son is on that football team. But, no, listen, it's a real thing, and I've been a part of coaching changes when they happen on the fly. I mean, you either pull apart or you pull together. And this UCLA team has for sure pulled together, win in three in a row. I think big noon kickoffs going to Indiana this week.

So that'll be a big one, Indiana versus UCLA. The games aren't going to get easier in that Big Ten matchup. But no, it's a real deal. I learned it in college with many head coaching changes. I learned it in the NFL with head coaching changes. It's part of what makes sports great and unpredictable. And for all you betters out there, I would never bet on a team against a team with an interim head coach.

It's like a blind date. No one loves those going up against those types. of opponents. Good for you. Indiana's good, by the way. To put it mildly, they're good. Yeah, they're good. Hey, great seeing you, my man.

All right. See you, Colin. Yeah, Matt, when he comes to Los Angeles to visit his kids, is a proud dad, and it is remarkable to watch UCLA. So the head coach, a former player, there leaves, and they, you know, Jerry New Heisel, who sounds exactly like his dad and looks like his dad. They have just turned it around. Just brand same kids, different energy,

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J-Mack with the news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, in a battle of the best running backs in the league last night, Christian McCaffrey outduled by a mile. 24 touches. Wow.

CMAQ was running wild. Just great catching the ball, dancing. It's crazy. He looks way better than Sequin Barclay does this year. I don't know what's wrong with Seekwon. We knew that it was a heavy load last year that he burdened. But by far, Christian McCaffrey has eclipsed Seekwon Berkeley. I think he's right there with Bijon as the best back in the league.

And Kyle Shanahan talked about that performance. He's huge. I mean, he's the most consistent player I've been around. I mean, he just allows you to stay on track. He gets every yard in the run game and more. And what he does in the past game, just, it's rare you're going to throw the ball to him and not get a completion. He could be a slot receiver in the NFL.

I mean, he's that gifted. He really, I mean, Barry Sanders, Walter Payton, McCaffrey, to me are just different. You could put him out wide. you can put him at, I mean, he had 31 total touches in the game. I think he had 24 carries and seven catches. I mean, that to me is way too much of a workload for a guy. I don't love that, but 24 carries in the NFL is a lot of carries. Yeah, they're starting to work Brian Robinson and more the kid they got from Washington.

Maybe he's up to speed with the offense. I'll just say this, they kind of need him, because Kittles not there yet. You know, he didn't do anything last night. Joanne Jennings has a Pasco off his hands that's intercepted. Brandon Ayukes still missing in action. Ricky Pierce saw the longest knee injury in NFL history. When they get healthy, and I saw they have the late buy, Colin, man, and no team could use a buy like the Niners now. I mean, they're just bringing guys off the street and try to plug them in and make it happen.

No, I mean, if you look at the talent, look at defense alone, Bosa hurt, Warner hurt, who Funga leaves, Greenlaw leaves. they bring in Robert Sala, they're actually okay. It's a pretty darn good defense. I mean, you name another defense that over the course of a calendar year could lose their four of their, I mean, Bosa, Warner, Hufungar, arguably their three best defenders. For different reasons, they're all gone. The defense has played. I think Sala and Shanahan, you could argue one's coordinator of the year, one's coach of the year.

I think this is as good a job. Mack Jones, it's funny. If you take away your initial perception of me and you didn't know, He's kind of not sneaky athletic, but he runs in spots. He's always thrown a nice ball. But, I mean, their offense looks like their offense. It's very Christian McCaffrey reliant last night. But they've done a good job to overcome these injuries.

A lot of teams get injured and they just, it's man overboard. That's not been the case. So if you're looking for stocks to buy in the NFL, I think right now the Niners have to be number one. The schedule and all those injuries. I mean, they were highlighting this new middle linebacker. taking over for Warner. I know a lot of sharp betters last night, who were on Atlanta just because of the Fred Warner injury.

He's out. Oh, Atlanta's going to go nuts. I was like, eh, I don't know about that. This new linebacker, number 45, I'm basing on his name. He was outstanding last night. So Robert Salo, like you said, probably one of the best defensive coaches in the league. Awesome stuff.

Christian McCaffrey has 31 more touches this year than Jonathan Taylor. Now, the difference is Warren, Pierce, Pittman, are more available. So what's happening to San Francisco is they're like, this is what we have. We would not have him touch the ball 31 times. It would be like 18. But their takeaway is last night was, you know,

the Rams had won in the day, right? So you're sitting there looking around going, okay, the Rams have a W. You know, so you've got to win. All right, let's move to Denver, Colin. The craziest game of the day. You touched on it at the outset. The Giants were up 19-0.

Heading into the fourth quarter and totally imploded. Jackson Darts getting a pass because he was good. for most of it, but that interception changed the game. Terrible decision. Here's Brian Daibald at a loss for words. Tough way to lose. All the way down to the end, 60 minutes, and made one more play than we did. A lot of plays that could have changed the outcome of that game, not just one.

60-minute game, so, you know, it was, it's not one play. It's not one position. It's not offense, defense. It's collectively. I mean, listen, Denver got a little lucky on that one touchdown that ricocheted. Giants got lucky to. Yeah, I mean, that game ended the way it should have ended. It was wild.

You get that. I mean, we've seen a couple of games this year that, you know, Tampa, Seattle may have been the best game of the year, the shootout Donald Baker. This wasn't that because for three quarters, Denver's offense was inept. I did like both quarterbacks smartly using their legs. Dart and Bo Nix are good after. athletes, use their legs. I've said this for years. The NFL is the windows are small, the defensive coaching is sophisticated.

You're going to need to pick up first downs to help your defense out. And Denver's defense was like, guys, we're getting tired. You've got to extend some drives. So I think when Sean Payton leaned into Bose, right, like right here on this video, leaned into it, that's what this kid can do. Yeah. I kind of wish Jable had gone to the podium and just been honest. Guys, I'm effing devastated.

We were the better team for 50 minutes. I can't believe that kicker missed an extra point. Or we go to over. Like, that's the reality. Colin, a lot of people today on these shows and podcasts are just saying, oh, what a crazy game. Let's be real. Denver was not good yesterday. For 50 minutes, they were outclassed at home again by Jackson Dart, who's throwing to nobody's.

I mean, throwing a Daniel Bellinger, Theo Johnson. Denver got embarrassed. They are lucky. that they pulled out now two fourth quarters against the Giants and Eagles, where they were down bad. Remember that Eagles come back. Yeah, you make your own luck. I mean, that's the greatest quarter by an offense in the history of the league,

or at least by a player. So you make your own luck. If Bo Nix wasn't mobile, they don't win that game. He had four rushes, multiple first downs, running. He had two rushing touchdowns. So you make a lot of your own luck. And I think Sean Payton also, in those key situational moments, Denver always dialed up.

I mean, this is one thing that Andy Reid, Sean Payton, do. You get into these key situational moments, and Denver always call. I mean, you don't know what's going to happen. Is Bo going to run? Are they going to throw the Mims downfield? I mean, Denver's personnel, Jason, they give you, there's a lot of looks. They're long, their range. Evan Ingram, often is.

He looks good. Oh, he's a unique. He's like, I mean, he just doesn't look. He looks like an NBA guy. He's so big and wide. Denver's personnel is outstanding, in my opinion. Humor me for a sec. rank the teams in the AFC West, you can leave the Raiders off because they're jumping.

Kansas City won, Denver, two, Chargers, three. Yeah. Big winner yesterday was the Chiefs because the Broncos, I mean, this is the Jets and Giants they're struggling with. These are dregs of the League. I know. And the Chiefs are blasting dregs of the league. But in fairness, in fairness, Giants beat the Eagles soundly.

The Giants have had personnel. The Giants found their quarterback. Giants have the better coach. Giants have the better quarterback. Giants have the better left tackle. Giants have the better defensive front. Giants strangely have the much better culture when you look at what's happening with the Jets.

Thanks for that dig at the Jets. Final story, Con, let's go to tonight's game. Baker Mayfield, Jared Gough, two cowherd favorites dueling it out in Detroit. We're both on the Lions. Either the line has ticked up to six here. Michael Strayan this weekend had some strong praise for Baker Mayfield and how he's performed so far this season.

The thing about Tampa, they just keep winning. They do. And then you look at Baker. Baker Mayfield, and I'm like, this guy, my opinion, is the MVP. He's the most valuable player in this league and to his team. Because at one, at points you had God went out, you had Evans out, Ibuka's been out. Those are three, his three top guys. And yeah, they're in there being, Bucking Irving, and they still keep winning.

So a lot of credit to Baker Mayfield. I think Baker does the best job of defining his team. He's got a little pirate ship feel to him, and that's what Tampa's always been. They're a little loose, a little bit of a pirate ship. little you know i mean they don't they've always had talent i covered them 30 years ago they've always had good players it's been the quarterback situation when they have baker when they had brady brad johnson for a while you know they when they've had decent quarterback play they've always had the players and i think baker kind of speaks to their vibe and their culture kind of chill you know

they're they're they're they're never quite know what you're getting with tampa through the years, they've been involved in crazy wild games. Listen, when they get healthy, they're beat up. They're winning and they're not healthy. So watch out. There's a Niners vibe there. I'm not going to bore the audience with all the against the spread numbers. Dan Campbell off a loss.

Campbell and golf at home, you know, like they're really good. Detroit should win tonight. I'll just say this. If Tampa pulls the upset and wins outright, that would be a shocker to me. If Tampa wins outright and continues to do it with all these injuries. man that would that would be something uh jac mackle news well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the herd lie news be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon eastern nine a m pacific on fox sports radio fs one and the i heart radio app hey it's us the jonas brothers and guess what

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You don't know what you're getting half to half like Denver. But in the end, their receiving core is elite. Jalen throws a beautiful deep ball. They hit on it. And this is not what they were last year. They were at times. But you get some, you know, with this kind of offense, like the Yankees, you get long dry spells. Yeah, they don't, they don't, you know, they're not running the

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Caleb was the star of the show offensively high school college in last year, that's not, that's not what he does now. He is a supporting actor with this bear's offense, and here's Matt Haslbeck talking about it. I think that this could work, but Ben Johnson isn't really the type, doesn't seem the kind of guy that's going to change or adjust. It's kind of like, hey, Caleb, we're going to play on time, we're going to play on rhythm. we're going to run my my scheme i'm not going to put training wheels on you like we're going to take shots early and often like that's part of what we're doing and if you want to be on board you want to do it my way this can work if you want to revert back to what you did in high school

and college because you were more talented than the people around you then maybe you're not my guy yeah there there listen you can watch ben johnson's frustration with the past game but i will argue all day long the skill people for the bear deandre Swift, Caleb Williams, Luther Burton, Colston Loveland, Cole Comette, DJ Moore. They've got really good skill people. In fact, the last couple of weeks, yards after the

catch, they've been top three. There's a lot of things to be happy about. It's a good place to be in the NFL when you're in a four-game winning streak and aren't playing particularly well on one side of the ball. And again, Caleb is not getting sacked as much, despite what you see there. He's

cut his sacks in half. He's never been a big interception guy. So it's not like Spencer Rattler who just kind of felt like he wanted to prove things. They're not turning it over a ton. They're winning the turnover ratio, the turnover differential. They're near the top of the league. They're running the football. They're playing good defense.

They've hit some field goals. So, again, I mean, they're in a good space. It's very clear they got the right coach and they've got the right offensive personnel. I said it with Bo Nix earlier. I said it with Jackson Dart. I've said it with Caleb Williams. I've set it with Michael Pennix. You're not getting any Phoenix to Los Angeles,

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