The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right and wrong, the top NFL draft prospect, Matt Hasselbeck

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

He shares this week’s Where Colin was Right, Where Colin was Wrong: why he was right about LeBron James but wrong about Kyler Murray. Plus, he talks to Matt Hasselbeck to get insight on the top NFL draft prospect after his time working the combine and why Fernando Mendoza is a real deal franchise QB coming out of Indiana.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Matt Hasselbeck spent the weekend combining with Fernando Mendoza. Tye Simpson, got thoughts on all of it. I hope he liked Fernando Mendoza as much as I do, because I think the kid's really special. I really like him. Well, we do it every Monday. Colin was right.

Colin was wrong. Let's not waste any time and let's get right to it on a Monday. Where Colin was right? Well, Byron Scott and I agree. He said last week on an L.A. radio show, it should be LeBron's last season with the Lakers. Listen, the plus minus with LeBron and Luca when they're on the floor is awful. LeBron is now the second slowest player in the NBA, which would be fine if he was surrounded by a young athletic defensive squad. But he can't assist to hide LeBron's fatal flaw, which is conditioning and bad defense.

So now Byron Scott, a popular former Laker has moved to our side. Where Colin was wrong. I think the Knicks have a low ceiling, but they're fun to watch. Well, the Spurs were on an 11-game winning streak, and the Knicks dominated them yesterday, watched every dribble and jump shot. Listen, they forced Wemby into seven turnovers. Wemby won for seven on threes. The Knicks had a very spirited, at-home defensive effort.

And I never worry about the Knicks' score. Brunson and Kat and OG and Bridges. Josh Hart, they got guys who can fill it up. They got a lot of pieces. Their movement yesterday was great on offense, but it was their defensive effort against Wembe and others that stood out. Where Colin was right?

The Vikings are now interested in Anthony Richardson and Tua. This shows a clear sign publicly that they've got concerns about J.J. McCarthy. Now, they'll frame it as, Hey, we just want a spirited competition, but they're already $45 million over the cap, and they don't want to pay for another player. So, I mean, they built this team like the Broncos did,

or the Bears did with their young quarterback to load up on the roster, and they can't because they're going to have to go semi-big-game hunting, and reportedly three different quarterbacks, including Anthony Richardson, are on their radar. Where Colin was wrong. Now there's a report here. The chiefs are the betting favorites to sign Tyreek Hill, and I don't get it, been there and done that. Secondly, is he's got injury concerns and maturity off-field issues. And doesn't that kind of sum up what the chiefs are already dealing with with Rishie Rice? So I certainly don't think he's a great mentor for young receivers. Now, he's a home run hitter.

But the way people are defending Tyreek Hill, I just don't think that's a great mentor. a primary need. I think it's more running back O-line and edge rusher. But the betting market says Tyreeks the chief, and I don't really get it. Where Colin was right? Well, I felt vindicated. Finally, despite the fact I do think he's in all-time great offensive talent, the public and the media is acknowledging, oh, Luca Donzich isn't a perfect player. There's some video out of Luca and JJ Reddick this weekend having a confrontation. He doesn't work with LeBron. the constant berating and arguing with officials. Is he committed to the body?

There's arguments there. And he doesn't necessarily match up. Well, according to net ratings with LeBron James. All I'm saying is Dallas got on the phone for a reason. Just like Anthony Davis, James Harden, when great players get bounced around and traded, there's usually some reason for it. Where Colin was wrong.

That was defended Kyler Murray and the Cardinals desperate for a star quarterback reportedly now. They're moving on. Listen, I loved how elusive he was. I thought he was a more elusive version than Russell Wilson in his prime. I think he's super athlete. I think he throws a beautiful ball. But, you know, there are commitment issues. There are health issues.

And the truth is, seven years in, they made the playoffs once. In a very good division, true. but I was always a bigger Kyler Murray fan than I think the marketplace so I'll take an L on that one. Where Colin was right. Steph Curry going to miss five more games.

One of the mantras on this show, fall in love with your kids, fall in like with your superstars. Listen, man, I love Steph. This roster is brutal. Small, old, fast break points, bottom four points in the paint. bottom four, hey, they shoot three as well. Yeah, most of the league does now as well.

And I love Steph Curry. I just like to see him play for a winner, but it feels like they have been trapped for the last three years, and they've gone from mediocre to unwatchable. Where Colin was right? I keep telling J-Mack, Malik Willis is going to have a market. There's just, there's six teams that need a quarterback. He's young, 26, he's athletic, and he's accurate. Well, according to a story today, Jeremy Fowler ESPN says he's not going to get 30 million, but the Jets, Cardinals, and Miami Dolphins are going to be options for Malik Willis, who I acknowledge I like him much more than the marketplace. Robert Mays last week agreed with me, there's something here with Willis.

If you're a quarterback needy team and you're telling me that you're not looking at Malik Willis, you're a liar. And think about how many quarterback needy teams there are, and how few avenues there are to those guys this year. Baker Mayfield signed a one-year $4 million deal to be the buck starting quarterback. And then when he succeeds, you see it start to creep up. All right, Dernold's $10 million. Daniel Jones is $15 million.

Justin Fields is now $20 million. And so the idea that you could have gotten Baker for $4 million bucks three years ago, and now Malik Willis is going to make $30 million a year in free agency, it just shows you how fast things change when a certain idea starts working for people. And with that, let's pivot back to the NFL Combine. Matt Hasselbeck spent a lot of time there, and that fascinates me because, you know, I love it when somebody gives back to an industry.

So let's start with Fernando Mendoza, who there's, every time I say his name, I smile. There's so much I like about him. And you're pretty good at reading. Yes, you're pretty good at reading people. What was your takeaway spending time with him? Well, first of all, I mean, the Combine was in Indian, So Fernando Mendoza in Indy is right now. I mean, it's crazy. I was leaving St. Elmo's Steakhouse. And as I'm leaving, the entire wait staff gets called up and said, hey, everybody up. We're going to give him a standing ovation when he walks in the restaurant. Everybody standing ovation. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like, who's walking in? I had no idea. Is it like Roger Goodell? Like, who could this be? And it was Fernando Mendoza. I mean, he was the biggest thing there. And he wasn't even working out. You know? And so I do think he's got a presence.

You know, I think one of the first things he said to me, he said, I know I'm a goober. And I was like, dude, embrace it. Like, it's really endearing. Just be authentic. And I think that's what in the locker room plays really well. You know, I played for three years with a guy named Andrew Luck. That was an incredible player, an incredible leader, great quarterback, and kind of embrace the nerd nation personality that he had.

And I think it worked. It worked for him. And I think it'll work for Fernando Mendoza. And he's gearing up for April 1st is when he'll throw at Indiana for his pro day. And I think the hardest thing for him was watching and not competing at the combine. Hey, let me ask you, just when you size him up, you know, wearing a dress shirt and I saw his size. I contend he's a bigger, kind of thicker Matt Ryan. You've been around pro athletes the last 25 years.

Size him up physically when you see him. Yeah, bigger than Matt Ryan, I would say. I mean, I'm 6'4 on the dot. He measured in at 6.4. I think it was like 6.4.6. Which is, I think, is like 6.8s or something like that. He looks much bigger than that. Like when you're, I feel like I was looking up at him at all times.

We took a selfie or someone took a selfie of us or something like that. He looks like he's five inches taller than me. He has a presence about him. Guys definitely gravitated towards him. Wide receivers, running backs, defenders, really everybody. He handled it really well. Ultimately, what matters is how he plays real football, 11 on 11 tackle football.

And he played great this year, obviously. He had the, you know, he's got the clutch gene. He's got all the tools. You know, I asked him who his favorite team growing up was, and he said, like, without hesitation, I grew up in Miami loving the New England Patriots. Tom Brady was my favorite quarterback, and the Patriots were my favorite team.

And he kind of plays with traits that don't surprise you when you hear that kind of stuff. Just the style of play that he plays with, how he carries himself, and just really how he interacted with everybody there. I was very, very impressed. Also, Ty Simpson, who, you know, I said when Jackson Dart came out, I said, you know, I see him more as a high second round pick, but he had Lane Kiffin for three years. And I think that's a big advantage having a coach in college that understands the pro system. Well, Ty Simpson comes from Saban, who was very good at hiring offensive coordinators and Kalin de Boar. And I'm like, well, that's pretty high-end college coaching.

What did you make of working with Ty Simpson? Yeah, and Ty Simpson, he doesn't necessarily wow you with the physical traits, like in a t-shirt and shorts. But, as you know, I don't care about that. You know, one of my favorite quarterbacks is Brock Bertie. But Ty Simpson, for a guy that didn't necessarily have to throw, came in and competed, threw really well. You could tell he had the respect of the receiver group. He had the respect of the quarterback group.

Fernando Mendoza, who we were talking about earlier, he'd been training with him a little bit. he's very impressed. It would not surprise me if Ty Simpson's a first round pick. His film, again, is excellent. You know, I mentioned earlier, you know, do guys just kind of grab it toward, you know, towards him as a leader? They do. You know, he's a quieter guy. He's got a confidence that's, that's understated. But no, he's, you know, in a quarter, for quarterback needy teams, I think that this would be a worthy, worthy investment. Yeah. Is there a quarterback, I mean, we started the year, Matt. It was crazy. Cade Klubnick, Drew Aller,

Nussmeyer. And none of these, I think Nussmeier's got some real talent. LSU was a bit of a mess. That's why they have a new coach. Is there a quarterback under the radar that's, that's, is there's any buzz about? Yeah, well, I would say that, you know, this quarterback group came into the combine,

kind of unheralded. You know, people were picking them apart. And as a group, they did awesome. Like, they did really, really well at the combine. I think they helped themselves. I heard a lot of scouts and even some coaches say, hey, this was maybe one of the best performances as a group as we've ever seen at the combine in terms of the day that they had throwing.

Now, that doesn't necessarily equal football, you know, real football, but it was impressive. They did they check the boxes there. You know, I think Luke Altmeier from Illinois might be a guy that is a name. I don't hear a lot of people talking about, but he was very impressive, very smooth. Again, not a guy that walks by you and you say, oh wow you must be a franchise quarterback for somebody like that's not the first thing that comes to your mind but

I heard I had at least one coach tell me hey we're supposed to study a hundred plays on each guy and write a report I looked up and I was on like play 340 because I just love watching this guy play he's just accurate on time great decisions and for that reason they're winning games at the team otherwise wouldn't win if he wasn't the quarterback so every year there's guys that that come out of nowhere and uh and and fit really, really nice in the NFL. I think he could be one of them. Yeah, it's interesting. I watched him play live against USC,

and it was a, you know, everybody talked about, you know, Illinois and their run game, but my takeaway is what you said on time. He made really good decisions. Now, USC's defense looked gassed in the second half, but to your point, he looked like he had a little Brock Purdy where when he let it go, he felt great about it, and they upset the Trojans.

Okay. Diego Pavia. I said, don't love that his mentor is Johnny Mansell because, you know, you say that around NFL circles. And I've said, Johnny Mansell may be the best guy to play golf with in the country for all I know. I don't know. But you say Johnny Manzell, and there's a lot of people in this league in personnel that would go, yikes, that's not a great mentor. And Diego Pavia is, you know, he's got big personality. What did you make of him?

I enjoy Diego. I mean, he's a guy that I don't think anyone was really given a chance, his height, kind of his measurables, the style of play in college, you know, all the stuff. And I thought he helped himself. He did outstanding. Like, his, you know, people were knocking him as a thrower. I thought he did a great job, both with accuracy on the short stuff, deep balls on the deep, you know, on the deep stuff.

I think the quarterbacks as a group were cheering him on. I thought he was really impressive that way. When you mentioned the whole thing about the role model and Johnny Mansell, I chuckle, but I also understand. I mean, there was a point in my career where I was kind of struggling. I was either bench, kicked to the curb out of the league, or I was going to turn the corner, be the starter, and never look back. And my backup at the time was a guy named Jeff George,

formerly the number one pick overall. And everyone, like, publicly, you know, nationally, he's a coach killer. Like, he's not a mentor. He's not the guy you want to learn from. That wasn't true for me. I learned so much from Jeff George, mostly from some of the mistakes that he had been through, but he was incredibly helpful to me.

And I could point to other guys in my career that nationally, that their reputation might be like, hmm, you know, he was kind of a bad guy, you know, or whatever. Right. Because of that, it was helpful to me. So I don't actually think it's a terrible thing at all that Diego is maybe learning from Johnny Mansell, as long as it's that same kind of thing.

Like, hey, man, you don't have to do what I did. and here's here's why. I mean, Ryan Leif right now, another great example is going around sharing his story, mentoring so many, having a positive impact on people after, you know, sharing like his failures. And I think it's been a great thing for a lot of people. Yeah, I'm not saying, I have said before, Johnny Mansell is a good time. I'm not knocking the guy. It's just, he got a little squirrely. It sounds, it sounds, listen, it sounds funny. I mean, like, you know, people, people who they ask me like, hey, who's a backup quarterback that really mentor? toward you. They're probably expecting to hear like Doug Peterson, not Jeff George. Right. And I'm just,

I'm just here to tell you. I mean, I remember one time I was getting booed out of a stadium and I was like, you know, just crushed. And Jeff George like breaks the ice. He's like, man, that's nothing. Let me tell you about a story. There's a fight in the stands and all my team is like, yo, it's a fight. It's a fight. And I turn around and it's like my dad and my brother, like fighting somebody, you know, he's like, so however bad you think it is for you, bro, like there's no, you're good. Trust me. It could be way. worse. You know, it's those little nuggets that, uh, that pull you out of a hole sometimes. It's, uh, I don't know. I'd certainly appreciate it. So when you go, I mean, um, I'm looking

at the people you dealt with, um, a McCoy Lemon, who I think's pretty good. Garrett Nussmeyer, Cade Clubnick, uh, um, Carnell Tate. See, Jordan Tyson, the receiver from Arizona State, interesting player. The, um, when you, this whole weekend, when you go to the Bombine. And, you know, some have said it's the underwear Olympics. It's a bit of a meat market. But you are seeing guys in the league live. And for you, just as somebody who played in this league, did it bring back memories? Did it, I mean, what was it like for you to watch all these young quarterbacks? Because you were there. Yeah. Well, I mean, I love it. I mean, I love it. It's a, it's a dream come true for these guys. It's a job interview. It's something they'll do once in their life. And,

you know, it's incredible being around them. But at the same time, I get to watch other sort of like legends, former NFL players mentor, guys like John Randall and Thomas Davis and T.J. Hushman Zata and, you know, a lot of different guys that are like pouring into these guys, work done. And, you know, it's just fascinating to me. Some of it I'm watching for, like, do they have eye contact with these guys? When John Randall's teaching you a swim move, are you like, yeah, yeah, I got it.

I got it. Or are you like, no, tell me. Like, I want to learn. And it's the same thing when I'm watching coaches or scouts give instructions. Do they have to say it twice? Do they say it once? Are they cheering on their teammates? You know, to Kate Klubnick and Garrett Nussmeyer, two guys there,

they turned into cheerleaders when their receivers were running. Guys they either played with in college or guys they had trained with. I mean, just that the camaraderie, like the great teammate vibe that you get from those guys. You know, there is a vibe factor with players. You know, it's like walking into a bar. You get a vibe. You're like, this isn't it. Let's hit the next bar.

You get the same thing being around players for five days straight from 5 a.m. in the morning when drug testing starts until 11 p.m. when recovery ends. I mean, you get to know, guys. It's hard to fake it. So I appreciate how the NFL puts on the combine. And I appreciated the way that these kids competed while they were there. All right.

I want to end it with this. I always like Kyler Marie more than the marketplace. I thought he was kind of like a more athletic run. Russell Wilson. Yes, he was small, whatever. We had a small quarterback era. The commitment stuff, I don't expect everybody to be Tom Brady. That's unfair. But I think there's foundational minimums. Would you roll the dice on Kyler Murray? Some are into him, some are out. I always liked him. I met him in person. I think he throws a beautiful ball. Maybe he's been humbled. What would you do if he was on the market and you, like Minnesota's interested. What do you make of that? Well, yeah, I don't know about Minnesota specifically, but I like him.

He's got elite traits, elite. I mean, he's a ridiculous athlete with his legs. I would fear that if I was a decorinator. He throws a beautiful, beautiful ball. It's some of the leadership stuff, though. It's the body language. You know, you mentioned the work ethic. I can't speak to that.

I'm not there on that. But now that is something that people at least wonder about. So, like, you're going to have to prove that that is not a thing. But to me, the body language, how does he fit in our locker room? And, you know, I don't know if being humbled is the right word, maybe just matured. You know, I know I was a way more immature player early in my career than I was late. And I know I was a better teammate, you know, near the end of my career. And maybe there are these, you know, these reclamation projects, guys like Sam Darnold and Baker-Mayfield,

who've really turned the corner, struggled early, turned the corner, great success story. I mean, for Kyler, he has elite characteristics athletically. So if you can get the right fit with the right plate collar, head coach, teammates, and maybe just, you know, grow up a little bit. I do think this is a guy that I would go after. You were immature. I don't see you as an immature guy. Were you a party guy or something?

Colin, I used to wear my hat like this, Colin. Can you believe that? Can you believe that? Can you imagine? Man, I'd have been on the air hammering you if I'd have gotten that image. Matt Hasselbeck. So I love that you give back to the game, my friend. Great seeing you.

Great to see you too. All right. He loved Mendoza. He loved Mendoza. Isn't that great? Mendoza's like, listen, I'm a goober. Everybody knows it. I am.

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I watched a little bit of Michigan on Friday against Illinois. Jay Mack, I think, had some money on the fighting of Linae. And let's just say Michigan is big. Michigan's a big. Got a little bit of that Yukon feel a few years ago, the Hurley team, where you had all that size and length. It's hard for college teams to combat that. So, J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news.

This is the Herdline News. All right, let's get started with Ben Johnson, your guy in Chicago. I'm surprised you guys didn't go out for drinks over the weekend. hanging out. He's taking shots at the division rivals. Ben Johnson, we know he does not love the Packers, Colin. And here's what he said pertaining his arch rivals. What is the deal with the Packers?

Who likes the Packers? The Bears and the Packers, they should not like each other. I think it's as simple as that. And I think that's going to make this rivalry, this game, something that people are going to watch here. going forward. Man, how do you not like that guy? People, he was at the Bulls game yesterday

against the Milwaukee Bucks, 230 start time central, and a standing O when he got introduced at the Bulls game yesterday. I would hope so. Pretty nice, yeah. I mean, you might get a standing ovation if you showed your face of that, wretched team, right?

I mean, Bulls are, what, 25 wins, 30? People love Ben Johnson. They do. Hey, first year. I mean, he was so good. How could you not like him? Come on, guys on fire. All right, let's go to the combine for story number two, Colin.

There's a tight end out of Oregon who has been a lock for the first round. Yeah. You're familiar with his work. Kenyon Sadiq. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I know we get excited about guys running the 40-yard dash, but he's set a record. Fastest 40 by a tight end ever 4.39.

He's kind of rocked up 6.3, 240. Guys got an insane vertical jump. I mean, basically, that's like the kind of guy I train with. That's, you know, that's exactly what you want. It's supposed to be. Most, most coaches. just want a left tackle to be 6-6 and a tight end to be at least 6-5. But his traits, his explosiveness, I mean, even when you watched him for Oregon, he looked

more like a big receiver than he did a tight end. But Oregon used him very effectively, and he's a nightmare matchup at the college level. Nobody could match up with him. I mean, the only concern here is the two tight ends who have really taken over the league, Bowers and McBride, didn't come. come in with like absolute can't miss, right? It was Kyle Pitts who came in and was like overdrafted and didn't live up to the hype. So I don't know how high Sadiq goes.

I mean, there's some top 10 chatter. I think the PFF mock you had earlier had him like late first. I think coming out of the combine, though, he's probably in that. You know, he could, could Rams love three tight ends? Could the Rams grab him at 16 or are they set at tight end? I do think in a league that's shifting more toward heavier sets that he makes a lot of sense. All right. Final story, Colin, let's go to Kyler Murray.

We almost need to revisit that time you guys were hanging out because it's gone all downhill for him since, Colin. I mean, listen, this guy has one playoff appearance. Like, I mean, it just has not lived up to the hype. Career record 38 and 48 and 1. I mean, what are we doing here? Vikings and Falcons are the teams that are apparently leading to charge after the Cardinals cut him and absorbed a cap hit.

They tried like hell to trade him, but, I mean, short of attaching a pick and a good one. Nobody was taken on that contract. Interestingly, both these teams are in the dome, Colin. Do you have a preference of where he should go? Well, you still want to give Pennix some time. And Kevin Stefansky, remember, Pennix last year had a defense of a young defensive coach. So, I mean, I'd like to see Pennix be given a year with Kevin Stafansky, a year, indoors.

I think Arizona is just a mess. so but I I never Atlanta's got good ownership Matt Ryan now smart guys in the building I like Kevin Stefansky always a winnable division

I I don't think Kyler Murray that would feel like to me that feels a bit desperate I would give penics another year and by the way if it doesn't work out okay it's a great draft year

next year a quarterback I don't feel it doesn't feel like a fit to me so does Minnesota feels better Yeah, because I was much more of a Pannix fan. I also think Bejohn Robinson, Kevin Stefansky, better than average offensive line, Drake, London. I think Pennix can work. I don't know how great he is.

I don't think the J.J. McCarthy thing works. My only problem with Kyler in Minnesota, his established work habits are very poor, okay? We see the body language when he gets knocked down. If the schedule lines up with cold weather games for the Vikings outdoors, Kyler is a non-starter. I don't want to say I called this. I just don't see it.

And I love this guy early in his career. Him and Kingsbury. Second Kingsbury leaves. Kyler's been a disaster. And if I'm Minnesota, remember, we agree. Kevin O'Connell's probably on the hot seat. Would you say that? It's like lukewarm now.

Well, they got rid of the GM. So that tells me ownership believes in the coach over the GM. am, so I don't think he's in hot water. I mean, listen, they made a decision. And ask yourself, this is what I, this is what we talked about with Kevin Stefanski. I said, Cleveland's going to let Stefansky go. He is going to interview for every other job. He'll be first on the list.

And he was until Harbaugh came out. He was the number one candidate. If you fire Kevin O'Connell, he will get a job like Stefansky overnight. I would take him with the Jets in a heartbeat. Yeah, once Aaron Glenn's dusted. The only problem, Colin, is you know, know how these teams work. Owner fires the GM.

Okay, coach, it's on you. If they go six and eleven this year, I mean, is he cooked? I don't know. The big problem for the Minnesota Vikings is Detroit has their OC problem fixed. Maybe. The bears are legitimate

and it looks like to me, I mean, Green Bay is going to be at least in the running for a playoff team when Micah returns. The problem with Minnesota is they are this morning looking up with a quarterback that can't consistently play. So, you know, there's a lot of,

Minnesota in my lifetime's always been well-run, thoughtful organization, rarely terrible, rarely great, but they've always been solid. I don't think O'Connell's in trouble, but I think they have to make a big boy decision on J.J. McCarthy, and I think we all know the answer. Well, Colin, what about the fact that in the

division, Ben Johnson shows up and in a year, they look like one of the best teams in the NFC? I know they have Caleb, but it's like, are we sure we got the genius? Because Chicago's got a freaking great coach. Well, the previous year was Sam Darnold. Kevin O'Connell won 14 games.

So Kevin O'Connell's not the problem. The problem is we don't know who's starting on Sunday at quarterback. That's the problem. To be fair, I like O'Connell a lot. I wouldn't move off. I do think the chatter in Minnesota could put him on the hot seat. We'll see. J. Mack with the news.

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It was a one-and-done era. The NIL has been able to get 20 euros over here to play and keep another 20 guys for a year longer in college. So NIL has fortified the people that have money in college basketball. The second thing, though, watching Michigan, Illinois, I don't remember a time. It feels like college basketball is crazy top-heavy. Like honestly, Michigan, Duke, Arizona, Florida.

Florida is pretty good. Yeah. I mean, usually we go into it thinking there's about eight teams that could win it. Let me ask you, because I thought Illinois was a dark horse, but they are. They just, they didn't play well, and Michigan overwhelmed them. The one thing that is true for all those four teams, they're all massive with NBA size on the front line, all of them. College basketball, like you were saying earlier.

Big. Yes, every team's going huge. Offensive rebounds equals second chance opportunities. I think Michigan had like 15 more shots than Illinois. You get 15 more shots than your opponent. You're going to score probably 10 to 15 more points easily. So that looks like the new strategy. I'd be curious what the Michigan coach has to say.

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I love that Matt Hasselbeck spent the weekend in Indianapolis at the NFL Combine talking and dealing with a lot of these quarterbacks. And it was interesting because I did ask him about Mendoza's size, like they were at the same restaurant. and in indie there's a very popular steakhouse St. Elmo's their shrimp cocktail sauce. There's the nasal passages. It's kind of a legendary place. It's the place to go. And I asked him, you know, about like his size just in a dress shirt. And he's like, oh, no, and I'm, but he goes, I'm six four. And I was looking up at him. So that, that's the first thing is, what does he look like in person? Not all this, you know, you see a guy in shoulder pads. You see, you see a guy at the weight room.

Like, what's he looked like if he walks in with a golf shirt on? and a pair of slacks and Hasselbeck's like no he looks he looks big and that's my interpretation of what Andrew Luck looked like the one time I stood next to him in college I'm like oh that guy looks like a like honestly like a defensive end uh and and I also asked him about sort of his personality when he worked with Mendoza this week I love this answer from Matt Hasselbeck on the personality of Fernando Mendoza one of the first things he said to me said I I know I'm Maguber, and I was like, dude, embrace it. Like, it's really endearing. Just be authentic. And I think that's what in the locker room plays really well. You know, I played for three years with a guy

named Andrew Luck. That was an incredible player, an incredible leader, great quarterback, and kind of embrace the nerd nation personality that he had. And I think it worked. It worked for him, and I think it'll work for Fernando Mendoza. Now, now, a guy that's not a nerd that's got a lot a chutzpah. In fact, there was a line on the internet once that if Axe body wash was a person, it would be Diego Pavia. He's a, you know,

young, outspoken, kind of a wild game, acknowledges his mentor is Johnny Mansell, who had a very colored, interesting football life. He talked, Pavia did it, the Combine, sort of about his chest out confidence.

A lot of team loves the tenacity, the fight, the life of an underdog, you know, that's for sure. And so they're, yeah, they ask questions, but you go back, you look at my record, ain't nothing on my record. Turn on the tape. You know, it's not like we're not playing these guys that are going first, first round, second round on Saturdays, you know, in the SEC. So, you know, the SEC and the Big Ten probably had the most guys, you know, getting drafted in the first, second round. So, you know, we're playing those guys and ain't nothing going to change. Yeah. Now, I will admit, I have a bias at the quarterback position with backwards hat guy, axe

body wash guy, because I think it's really a coaching position with a helmet. So I have a sort of cocky bias against quarterbacks that you, their chip on the shoulder, you know, taunt the crowd, Baker Mayfield pretty well chronicled. I thought Baker threw a great ball. I still do. And I think Baker's a nice guy.

I'm not a huge fan of that. But it should be noted that, you know, in life, you select a mentor for guidance. I select a mentor. I'm trying to think if I had a Johnny Mansell in my life, I don't think my personality. that would have worked. But, I mean, Brady loved Gronk. Brady just totally connected with Gromk. It happens. And that's what Matt Hasselbeck talked about, you know, that I think when you're a young

athlete and you come into football, I remember years ago, Vince Young came into the sport. And he befriended Pac-Man Jones. And, you know, Vince Young, I was never a huge fan. I didn't think like he could sit in the pocket. I just didn't like this throwing motion. I just, I thought he was an unbolt, best high school football player I've ever seen. Unbelievable player at Texas. I didn't think he was a great prospect in the NFL. But I remember he befriended Pac-Man Jones. And I remember working at the other place saying, bro, he got 50 guys from the locker room.

Pac-Man had some skirmishes. I'm like, that's, that, go find a receiver on your team or an old veteran offensive lineman you can hang with. But now Matt Hasselbeck defended Diego Pavia choosing Johnny Mansell as his mental. mentor. My backup at the time was a guy named Jeff George, formerly the number one pick overall, and everyone, like, publicly, you know, nationally, he's a coach killer. Like, he's not a mentor. He's not the guy you want to learn from. That wasn't true for me. I learned so much from Jeff George, mostly from some of the mistakes that he had been through. But it was, he was incredibly helpful to me. And I don't, I don't actually think it's a terrible thing at all that Diego is maybe learning from Johnny Mansell is

long as it's that same kind of thing. Like, hey, man, you don't have to do what I did. And here's, here's what. Yeah, so maybe I'll stand corrected. And again, I've had these weird near brushes with Johnny Mansell. And people say, it's like, you want to go golfing with Johnny Mansell. Johnny Mansell's an all-time friend. Maybe I'm wrong. Here's the PFF mock draft that came out today. Not a ton of surprises. You know, what's interesting, we're showing you the top 14 picks. You know and I know there's going to be three busts in just the first 14 picks. I'm not going to predict what kids are bust. I will say based on the PFF mock draft, and I know for the radio audience, you can't look at the order. That feels a little high for Sunny Stiles going

four to Tennessee, in my opinion. Watched every Ohio State game of note. I think he's a very good player. That seems a little high. I think Jeremiah Love, this is weird. He's at 8 to the Saints. I think he's the most underrated player in the draft. I think he's Jemir Gibbs. I think he's a total home run hitter. Notre Dame had two good backs.

I think he walks into the NFL and is a 800 plus yard running back as a rookie. If he gets a decent team. I think Caleb Downs at 10 to the Bengals would be the steel of the first round. I think he's a great player. I think David Bailey is really good. That feels low. Listen, if Miami can get David Bailey at 11, they got to walk out of this draft and feel really good about it.

Fano, like, it's funny. They have Fano going to the Ravens, and Ravens through the years have done really well in the offensive line. They've drafted, I mean, they just don't miss a lot. Everybody said Fano has short arms. I don't know. Now, now, now, Matt Campbell, New England did as well.

I didn't, Will Campbell, I'm sorry. Will Campbell left tackle. That was a weaker draft than this. And I didn't love Will Campbell as a top pick. Fano, I don't think he's going to go at 14. I think he's closer to 20. I think this is a better draft. I think it's a good tackle draft, a good edge rush draft.

There are three corners in the first round that are pretty good. Spencer Fanoe. now this mock has Kenyon Sadiq the tied in for Oregon falling to 27 and if Kyle Shanahan gets his hands on that kid he'd be like a combination of Kittal and Debo Samuel like he is he is built totally built for McVeigh or Kyle Shanahan or a Kevin O'Connell do you have any big swings all I know is when I look at that top 14 if Caleb Downs goes to the Bengals at 10. It's a good get. That is a great. I could argue, he's my second favorite player in the draft is Caleb Downs. Second, wow. Okay, let's drill down on Sunny Styles for a second, okay? So this guy was, he was good on the Ohio State defense, right? But he's a linebacker. He's not an edge rusher.

Four is insane. However, Robert Sala's the new head coach in Tennessee, right? He knows middle linebacker, Fred Warner. That's what the comp is for Stiles. The problem is Warner went, I think, second third round, maybe fourth? So if you get the linebacker in the middle rounds, awesome. You take him at fourth overall? I just, that's a little rich. I was hoping the Jets could grab him at 16. The other guy with short arms is, I believe, Bain from Miami.

Yes. Now, some of the numbers guys have looked it up. And I don't want to sound mean, but like the guys with short arms as edge rusher historically have not delivered. Now, that's in the first round. If you want to take them in second or third, awesome. But first round, there's a lot of pressure on these guys, Colin. You know, one of the things that jumps out to me, and we talked about this, when the CTE stories

came out, there were the NFL very purposefully, very intentionally targeted mothers as fans. That's why the NFL has a huge percentage of women and moms who are football fans. They've targeted them with marketing and promotion. And that we were having, less kids are turning out for high school football over the last seven to eight years than they were the previous 20 years because of the CTE and it's, you know, it's a big strong, it can be kind of a violent sport. What I have noticed, this draft, and I've noticed it more in the last three or four years, it used to be your first 15 to 16 guys. Their traits were off the chart. Well, last year, Will Campbell's the first tackle off the board, and he's a guard who's kind of masquerading as a tackle. This year you've got Rubin Bain's one of the best edge rushers, historically short arms,

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