The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd-HOUR 2-Where Colin was right & wrong, Matt LaFleur

Episode Date: August 3, 2020

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This is The Heard, wherever you may be, and however you may be listening. We're on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio and FS1. Joy Taylor just gave me a great gift. A desktop stand for my cell phone, because as you know, for my Instagram live, I don't know what the hell I'm doing with my cell phone, and I'm always holding it weirdly and then it sounds makes a bad noise. Yeah, you can't, you can't, like, lean it up against stuff because then, like, the sound cuts off on the bottom. I have a whole, like, phone tripod, but I feel like that was too much for you.

So this is really simple. We've worked together two years. I get a gift. Nine years with Goulet, I haven't gotten a bag of potato chips. I don't know if I believe that. No, he's right. He had a nice vacation last week, went to Connecticut, and even when his move, he was helping his mother move. Oh, that's nice.

John's a groin. Okay, we do it every Monday. I have a lot of big opinions. I swing and miss a lot. Hold ourselves accountable. Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong on a Monday, here we go. Where Colin was right? Don't think the Lakers are a championship team and it all comes down to one fundamental issue.

I don't trust the supporting cast. They have no number three. Yesterday against Toronto, LeBron goes to the bench. Raptors 10-0 run. Danny Green, 20 minutes, zero points. Folks, you can't win a championship if you do not have a dependable three. This is a weird reality show. Hard knocks meets

the Lakers group of disparate parts. Again, I like Danny Green, but I don't depend on him as a number three guy. So, I mean, last year in Toronto, he was there four. There were times he was a five. So I just don't think they're a championship

team, and I think you've seen this now. AD yesterday, faltered, and there's nobody there to pick up the pieces. Where Colin was wrong. Russell Westbrook, played as good NBA game as he has in a long time, and the rockets are 2-0 in the bubble. They're not only 2-0, but they've been great defensively down the stretch against Milwaukee, and they've been great late-in games. Dallas outplayed them. They got it to overtime and won.

Milwaukee out-played them for most of the game. Last seven minutes, six minutes, they outplayed them. That's always been the Achilles heel of Houston. They unravel late in games. Westbrook unravels late. Harden unravels. They don't play defense yesterday. They were great late, and they played real defense. Westbrook was sensational, almost perfect at the free throw line, 10 of 21. I got all the good side of Westbrook. I love that play. Huge energy, and I got efficiency. When I can get efficiency from Westbrook, that's when we can talk MVP.

Not triple doubles. When I get the energy, the intensity, and I don't get these highs and lows, he was a really special player yesterday. Where Colin was right. Russell finally got respect. I've been saying this for years. NFL Top 100. he was not only the second player, he was above Patrick Mahomes. He has done more with less offensively than any player in this league in recent memory.

O lines have been below average. Pro football focus has that at 28 this year. Their best running backs of seventh rounder, they don't really address the tight end situation, and their defense isn't what it used to be. He was also one of the four players, quarterbacks ever to be a unanimous tier one player in that athletic piece. They do. So this week, players respect him, NFL.com list, and executives respect him.

The athletic piece, it's about time. Where Colin was wrong. Carson Wentz, however, was not a top 100 player and Josh Allen was. Okay, take out his rookie year. Never count a rookie. We don't count Mahomes as rookie year or Lamar's rookie year. Take out his rookie year. He has a 98 passer rating, 81 touchdowns, 21 picks, and that's last year, losing everybody on

the perimeter and having offensive line issues. I don't get it. I don't get what people are not seeing. Well, Nick Foles. Nick Foles won a Super Bowl based on home field playoff games, accumulated by great play, MVP level play by Carson Wentz. Howie Roseman's a smart GM, even with the injury, signed him early to a deal. I don't get what you don't see. Where Colin was right. Now, eight patriots have topped it out. Sure, it's all just a crazy, zany coincidence. I've been on this for two months. They didn't have a plan post-Bredi.

They didn't keep their own free agents. They weren't aggressive on the free agent market. They let their kicker go. And players, they thought, they're really good players. And now, five times the league average. Some teams haven't had a player opt out. They're up to eight. An NFL exec said last week, doubling down on what we said,

this is not random. Bill's up to something. What is he up to? Belichick, like everybody in the NFL, scouts two years in advance. They know this is the first time in years. There are three A plus quarterback prospects. You can't win in this league, as New England knows,

without a Hall of Fame level guy consistently running the chip, and they want one of them. Where Colin was wrong. If you had told me that Carmelo Anthony, at 36 would be in great shape and a crucial piece to a team. I would have laughed. Carmelo Anthony matters to the Blazers. They got Nurkich.

They got plenty of, they got points down low. They got Damian Lillard and C.J. McCullough. They don't have a wing score. Mello's in the best shape of his life, totally coachable, and he's frankly, incredibly crucial to this offense. They don't have a wing score. They got great guards who don't play a lot of D, and Nurkich is a dog.

He is a really good player and he's back. But they don't have a wing score. Mello, prove me wrong. He is really important. He's in really good shape. He is totally accepting his role. Took a while. But when Portland picked him up, I said,

give me a break. It's a paycheck. Nope. He matters. He's there. He's current. He's into it. And he's hitting shots that matter.

Where Colin was right? Kyler Murray made the top 100 list. This kid is special. I, outside of Arizona, watch more Cardinal games than anybody in the league. I'll tell you right now, I think he throws the most catchable football. I think he's got great accuracy, unbelievable playmaking footwork. And behind last year an offensive line,

in the toughest division in football, behind a very mediocre offensive line, 20 passing touchdowns, four rushing touchdowns, and a pass rating in the high 80s. He gave San Francisco's defensive line fits. He beat Seattle as well. And he played one year of college football. Like, I did not think it was going to be this good,

but I said by about week three, okay, this is Russell Wilson. A little smaller version. I think he may throw a better ball than Russell Wilson. And NFL players voted him in the top 100. And I think he is. I think he is a top 100 player right now. Where Colin was wrong.

I never thought in a million years. The New York Jets would get, Two first round picks, a third round pick, and a starting safety for Jamal Adams. The safety position of the 10 units in the NFL only tight end pays less than safety. Jamal Adams fetched that? That's incredible. In fact, only eight players in the last 20 years have fetched two first round picks. Eight.

And they're like all offensive players except for like Khalil Mack. you do not get two first rounders a third and a starter, a good starter at safety for a safety, blew me away. I mean, I said you have to trade him at that point. I mean, I love my house. If you're going to pay 35% more than it's worth, I'm going to move.

I mean, at that point for the Jets, you're doing really a disservice to your organization because you have Marcus May, who's already a very good young safety. You're just making a mistake. If you don't take two first, a third, and a starter, you don't know what you're doing. Like, they had to move him.

and I am shocked the haul they got. Where Colin was right? Set it in 2017, three years ago. Aaron Judge is the next face of baseball. He's got a Zion quality. The look, the likeability, the joyfulness, the charisma, the size. And he is Paul Bunyan. I saw him hit two jacks yesterday.

I'll let you see, I think, the second one we got. This is Babe Ruthian. Watch. Fly ball, deep left field, way back there. Aaron Judge Eddie. Oh, Semi go. Oh, is he hot? His second home run of the night.

Aaron Judge is guilty of putting the Yankees into the lead with his second home run of the night. A bomb into the night. It is 9 to 7 New York. Listen, they did this thing years ago. Chick-sticked the long ball. That was like a big baseball-like marketing thing. You can't deny it.

Big home-run hitters when they hit him like that. He hit one in the second deck. it's the Zion quality. It's like people don't hit second deck homers all the time. And he's got the look and the size and this is the one I saw live. Look at puppy. That is a monster. So here he is.

Where Colin was right. Sam Darnold continues to get absolutely no help. Baker Mayfield got an all-star team. Josh Allen's got a great coaching staff. In one week, Jamal Adams was traded and C.J. Mosley opted in the week before Jamal Adams ripped the coach and the owner's saying stupid crap. I mean, in the noisiest off season, what do we always say? The noisier your off season, the worse your regular season.

It's like Dallas last year had an incredibly noisy offseason. They underachieved. The Jets are the noisiest team in the NFL, the coach, the star player, the owner. Thank God Joe Douglas knows what he's doing as GM. What a shock. A mess with the Jets. So we're going to do that. One of my favorite games I'm going to do it before the end of the hour is a fake press conference.

You know, our president says fake news. So we take it a step further. We do a fake press conference. Yes. With Aaron Rogers and Matt Lafleur, I think Matt Lafleur stepped in it yesterday. And I think he's a smart guy. But I thought Aaron Rogers was honest last week. He's like, I ain't going to be here a few years.

And Matt Lafleur is like, oh, he's got to be here forever, which means you took a first round pick for a guy that's not going to play and gave up another pick to get him? How are you doing? So we're going to do a fake Matt Lafleur press conference in about 40 minutes. Chris Broussard is next. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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the hard-hitting action begins at 8 Eastern on Fox and the Fox Sports app. Excited for that. I can't tell you the joy. I was talking to Jenny before the show, and I haven't asked you this. I just watched sports all day yesterday. That's what I did all day. On the couch, I was just, I went for jog in the morning. You know, I like to keep toned.

Anywho, and then I got home at 6.30. I had a coffee, and I just sat in the couch. I made some salmon. I had a friend over for lunch. I had a cocktail. I just sat and watched sports all day. I watched Brooks Capka and Phil Mickelson was in the hunt on Sunday. I watched the Yankees, Red Sox.

God, it was fun. It just, it feels very normal. Yes. And that is, that's like something to feel grateful for these days. Like, just having the ability to turn on sports again. And then go to a restaurant. Yes. Those are open to.

Yes. But the sports part is crucial to us. Yes. And for just like, just being comfortable and getting back to. some sort of normalcy. Like watching the guys on TNT was like, okay, this feels like life again. Yeah, I need it.

Even though it's the longest table. Oh, God. But let's go Chris Broussard, former New York Times sports writer, Fox Sports NBA analyst is joining us. So it's interesting. I can admit when I'm wrong, it's so infrequent, but when I am I bring up.

So I thought, first of all, I thought Westbrook was great yesterday. I thought the Rockets played defense. I thought in both the Dallas and Milwaukee games, they were outplayed. I watched every, they were outplayed, but they, Westbrook, was great in the last six minutes.

Maybe it's the rest. These guys are not, you know, these guys are arrested, but where do you put Houston right now? Well, first of all, I'm just stunned that you gave Russell Westbrook some credit. You ripped him for averaging a triple double.

So I am impressed. by that. But look, I think they're, and I've thought this all season, they're the third best team in the West. They're behind the two LA teams. If I had to pick which L.A. team, I think they could beat,

it would be the Lakers. And the Lakers have trouble guard in the perimeter. We've seen that. And obviously, that's the strength of the Houston Rockets. Now, if they meet in the second round, which is what the schedule would bear out right now,

I would pick the Lakers, but I think Houston would give them all sorts of problems. And I think a few things have happened for them, Colin. Number one, going to small ball made them less Hardin-centric. As great as James Hardin is, they were too hardened centric. Now he and Russ feel more like a two-headed monster versus a definitive number one Hardin and a definitive number two Russ.

Like if they win the championship, I don't think they will, but if they did, who's to say Westbrook wouldn't be the one to lead him? I mean, he's been terrific, 31 points, eight assists, eight and a half rebounds in the bubble. He keeps so much pressure on the defense with his intensity and just his constant attack mode game that it really is, he is just as effective as hardened, but in a different way. So, and then to your point, they have played great defense when they've had to. Now, at times against Dallas, the first three quarters, I mean, I tweeted it, and it was true. The middle was parting like the Red Sea on every possession. It was ridiculous.

But in the fourth quarter, they held Dallas, which is the most efficient offensive team in the league. They held them to 20 points in the fourth quarter. They forced Milwaukee into 23 turnovers yesterday. So when they need to defend, they've been able to. and then finally that three-point shot. Look, they took 61 of them. You don't even have to be that efficient. They shot 34%.

But if you shoot that many of them and hit 33%, that's the equivalent of 50% from two. And that's the math that Dan Tony and Darry think will get them over the top. You know, it's funny. When we talk about Lakers, we see LeBron and Anthony Davis's offense. But here's something I notice.

These teams in the bubble, I mean, I'm not, Houston's shooting nothing but threes. clippers shooting nothing but threes. The Lakers are old. They don't have wing defenders. I mean, the league is now, I don't know what it is about this bubble, but it feels like everybody in the league has said,

okay, the gloves are off. We're just shooting threes. Chris, the Lakers can't defend the three. It's a, to me, it's a real problem for them. It's a major problem. And you've seen it in these two games in the bubble. Look at their perimeter defenders. Deion Waiters, not much of a defender.

Alex Caruso, it has his limitations. And then you got J.R. Smith, who's hardly even playing, but he's certainly at his age to all that time off, not going to defend great. You say, well, hold on, Danny Green and KCP, Contavius Carwell Pope. They can't hit a shot. Danny Green is two for 13. KCP is four for 15 in the bubble.

So they haven't been able to stay on the floor because they can't hit the open threes they're getting. So the Lakers have real problems defending. They had Kyle Kuzma trying to guard Kyle Lowry yesterday, and Lowry, of course, goes for 33. In these two games in the bubble, Colin, the Lakers have given up an average of 15 three-pointers per game. There is not a team in the league that is giving up on average more than 13-3s a game,

let alone 15. So the Lakers, they have not been able to guard, and LeBron can't guard everybody. We saw against the Clippers, He can guard when he wants to, but he can't guard everyone. That is a major problem. And that's why the loss of Avery Bradley is big. And Rajan Rondo will be back, so hopefully he can help him.

Yep, no, that's that we talked about that. Okay. So the Zion thing is like it's bubble wrap. You know, he's the handle with CARE FedEx pack. It's to a point where, I mean, let's just say it. We've wanted to watch him at Duke. He got hurt. Summer League got hurt.

This year got banged out. are they being too cautious? Colin, we're making up new language when burst, man, what is it called? Burst restriction? I've never, that is hilarious. Burst restrictions? I mean, come on.

So, look, I think I feel, Colin, like they are baby. They know he's fragile. That's the bottom line. But it is getting to the point where it's downright ridiculous. And I believe this. Now, I know there are people in the league, people in that organization who feel like his size, his strengths, his girth is a big part of his effectiveness.

But I look at his history. I look at NBA history. And I say this guy's got to drop 30 to 40 pounds. Wow. So to stay healthy. 30 pounds. Charles Barkley dropped what? About 40 pounds, 30, 40 pounds when he came into the league.

He came in overweight. And if you look at him in his prime, he was just solid and big, not overweight. I think Zion needs to do that. Colin, he got hurt in high school. He got hurt in college. He got hurt in Summer League. He got hurt in preseason. He came back from three months off into the bubble and couldn't get through practices.

Now he's back and they got him on a 15-minute burst restrictions, three minutes at a time. What is going on? I mean, with his torque and all that he puts on, his body. I just can't. Derek Rose couldn't survive it. How in the world is Zion going to survive it? I qualified.

I'm not a doctor, but something's wrong when the guy's 20 years old and we're low managing him from day one. And there's really no injury. Right. There's no clear injury. Yeah. No, it's when you lay out his history of injuries, that's, it's scary because he plays with such incredible tort.

So, you know, I was thinking about this. it's really unbelievable what Adam Silver has dealt with. So Adam Silver loses his mentor, David Stern-Dyze. He loses one of the great global basketball ambassadors, men or women, Kobe. COVID, the China debacle, the Kyrie pushback, let's close the season. Black Lives Matter in a league where it probably has the most outspoken and crucial socially interested athletes in America.

and they work seamlessly with it. There have been all these little challenges, all these challenges. And I'm watching the NBA and I'm like, this is unbelievable. There has never been a commissioner in my life that has lost his mentor, his ambassador, he's dealt with COVID, he got pushback, a major social movement, the China debacle, which is just bad press. Chris, I'm kind of blown away by it. I think Adam Silver, whatever the raise is, his player, his stars,

like him. I think his owners have to be overwhelmingly have. We mostly thought they were going to go right to the playoffs. They get these eight regular season games in. That's a bigger check for owners. I'm blown away by how good it looks. Your thoughts on this? No, he's been great. And I've always said, you know, a lot of people would go with a football commissioner, but I've always gone with David Stern as the best commissioner in American sports history because of he had obstacles to overcome. You know, there were racial obstacles. The league had a bad reputation. and, you know, he turned it into this global power in his years as commissioner. But Adam Silver has stepped in and done a terrific job.

There's no ifs, or buts about it. When you look at what's going on with the NBA in the bubble compared to Major League Baseball, and the fact that baseball didn't put their league in a bubble or bubbles, it is night and day the difference between the two leagues. And you said it. I'm watching these games, and I thought it would look like a bunch of guys playing an open gym. It doesn't look like they're playing in an empty gymnasium.

What they're doing with the fans is tremendous, you know, as far as the little faces up there and all that. I think the crowd noise that they're putting in is awesome because it feels like a college game. Yeah. Like it really sounds like the intensity is nonstop, and it looks tremendous on television. He has done a remarkable job.

I have to give him credit. I have wondered sometimes, can you be that much of a player's commissioner? Yeah. But so far, so good for Adam Silver. Well, yeah, and I said this last week is when you fight hard for the players, kids don't want to disappoint their parents if they feel their parents have their back. When a commissioner is so pro player, the players don't want to disappoint him. And his star players, I mean, I'm watching Damien Lillard.

It looks like game seven of the finals. these guys are chirping and pushing and they're into it. And I'm like, I mean, I'm just telling you as a consumer of sports, the quality of it, UFC, MLS, and the NBA, I've just kind of been blown away by it. Chris Broussard, it's great seeing you, my man. You too, as always, man. Take care, Chris. By the way, I got a new Do It Yourself project this summer, building a new bar cart,

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The Lakers had a strong showing in their first game against the Clippers, but they couldn't keep it going Saturday against the Raptors. Their stars got off to a very slow start. LeBron only scoring seven points, and Anthony Davis only one point in the first half. The team also shot a season low 35.4% from the field. Lowry led Toronto to the 107.92 win with 33 points in the career high, 14 rebounds. This was the Lakers 11th straight loss to the Raptors.

If you watch the game, they got worked. Toronto plays real defense, has a bunch of veterans. They got worked by Toronto. Toronto is a great team. They obviously, you know, lost Kauai Leonard's. That's a huge loss for them, but that they were a perennial playoff team before that. They have a great system and great players. This isn't really surprising to me.

I don't think that the Raptors are a championship team this year. but they're still going to give everyone lots of problems. There wasn't a huge drop-off from, I mean, Kawhi Leonard is a superstar, right? So when I say there's not a huge drop-off, the system, the players that are there is a good system, a good coach, good players. Kauai takes you to the next level.

He puts you in the championship category. They don't have a great player, but they've got what I would call seven really high-end players. Yes. And I also think they may have the best coach in the league. I think they're as smart. as situationally deft. They're really, they're a tough out.

They're long. You can say, by the way, the clippers and the raptors are the two teams that give LeBron trouble. Like, they make, you don't get any gimmies. There's no freebies with them defensively. Well, yeah, LeBron talked about it after the game, that they're a championship run organization. Like, they are, they are a well-run organization that comes to play every night. That's why I liked them last year, because they are always right there, right? And they needed that piece to put them over.

So while the Kauai Leonard situation looked like was going to be very random, like he's what takes you to the next level. They had a moment in this game where they had 10 passes before they found the open shooter. Like it is almost collegiate. Like to get players to buy into the secret sauce, they do have a little bit of a elite collegiate feel to them.

Seven guys that can play. They totally buy into their coaches system and they play real grown-up defense. They make you earn every basket. You know, Chris Bosch earlier saying that it does, It does feel like the NCAA tournament. It's no question. Because you have basketball all day long.

But way better skill. Yes, but like the fact that they are like in one place. And it's like it just, it feels like the tournament. Lakers play the jazz tonight. So the Broncos have lost a big piece for 2020. Right tackle. Juan James has decided to opt out of the season. They have a bad left tackle too.

James was one of Denver's big acquisitions before last season, signing a four-year, $51 million deal. That's not good. He's only played a total of 63 snaps over three games in 2019. He was dealing with knee injuries. Yeah, this is not good. They have a left tackle issue. Now they've got a right tackle.

So this is, I think, this is like a big deal for a young quarterback to be. So last year, what was the quarterback that had bad tackles? Baker Mayfield. So if you have too bad, what is the single thing the Jets addressed this year? Tackles. This is bad for Denver. This is a, this. I mean, listen, the NFL.

out of players all the time. If players want to opt out, they can, but this is not good for Denver. No, and again, like, anyone who's opting out of this season, you can do what you want to do, regardless of how much he's being paid or how many snaps. It just doesn't matter. This season is not a normal situation. For whatever reason, a player doesn't want to play, they should not be judged in any capacity. Teams opt out of dudes all the time. I mean, the offense of the guard for the Jets this weekend, who thought he was going to get a run it, boom, you're out. That's, that's the league. So don't be shocked if occasionally.

Right. The players are the ones taking the risk this year. Yes. So, and no matter what anyone says, if they have, if they're in a situation where they feel comfortable financially and they don't want to put themselves at risk or put their family at risk, then they should do that. But this is really bad for Drew Locke and the Broncos. Last season, Elijah Wilkinson started 12 games in place of Joanne James and allowed 10 sacks,

which was the fourth most of any tackle in 2019. He will likely start in his place, but he's currently on the physically unable to perform because he had off-season ankle injury. So this is a really big deal. So the Patriots are starting their next chapter with a new quarterback under center. And while Bill Belichick is happy to have Cam on the roster, he said Cam is going to have to earn his spot like everyone else. We spent, you know, quite a bit of time with Cam. And, you know, he spent quite a little time with us.

I think we're some mutual interest. I know it was very positive on our end. And I'm glad it worked out. That's the same as all the other spots on the team. You know, we got a long way to go. And, you know, we'll see how things turn out. I can't control how players perform. That's up to them.

We'll give everybody an opportunity and you don't see what happens. This is now not a good roster. All you have to do is go look at the players who have opted out or not been re-signed. They have lost nine productive players. I didn't think it was a great roster before those nine players. Tom Brady left because he, I mean, literally. All we could hear last year was that he had no pieces and that he was making it all work. They lost nine of their best pieces.

Right. This is like, let's just be honest. Miami's better. The Jets will actually be better. And Buffalo could be way better with Stefan Diggs. I'm going to say it right now. Five and 11. I do think it's a massive deal, all the players that have opted out.

Oh, my God. Which, again, is their prerogative to do. Good players. Excited that Cam has an opportunity. I like Cam. I want to see what he does this year. But I do think we all need to just temper the expectations. If he has a great year, it's going to be unbelievable.

On Cam, because he would deserve credit for it. because this is not an ideal situation. You know how I always have my NFL predictions after the draft? I wait for free agency in the draft, and then I do my NFL predictions. You know, you get like seven, eight new players. And then I do one based on post-camp, like injuries. We have to have an opt-out.

I mean, I had New England at 9 and 7 with Cam. New England now, to me, is a 5-11 football team. They have all these guys have opted out. All around the league, there's been very significant opt-outs. We should do it this week. So I'm going to So Thursday I'm going to do an NFL

I'm going to do my NFL predictions because New England is not the same roster. They're just not. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. Coming up next.

Aaron Rogers said, listen, they drafted a quarterback first round. I'm not going to retire here. Totally forthright. Matt Lefleur said this weekend, Aaron is going to be here a long time. Backing up Jordan Love. So you gave away a first pick for a guy that's not going to play it? What are you doing?

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Aaron comes out and talks about, listen, man, you don't move up in the first round to get a quarterback and think I'm going to play for the next 10 years and end my career in Green Bay. then yesterday Matt Lafleur came out and instead of just being brutally honest it was kind of this disingenuous, phony PC, I love Aaron. Okay, so I'm going to put Aaron's bites, juxtapose them next to

Matt Lafleur's bites, Aaron's temperament I feel he's being totally forthright and honest with me. Not so much the coach. Just look at the facts. You know, they traded up, they drafted them. I would say they like them. They want to play them. Right now, most importantly, Aaron's our quarterback, and I see him here for a really long time. Now I think quarterbacks are playing earlier.

It gives some latitude for young coaches and GMs. Nothing's guaranteed in this league, but I feel so lucky to be able to work with him on a daily basis. Was I bummed out? Of course. It wouldn't be. You know, like I wanted to play my entire career in Green Bay. I love the city. I grew up there.

You know, I don't see that changing for a really long time. So if Matt LaFleur is being honest, and I don't think he is, Green Bay doesn't know what they're doing. So Green Bay, I don't believe, has as good a roster as six NFC teams, San Francisco, Philly, Saints, Tampa, Minnesota, Dallas. Better than Seattle, barely. Well, just take San Francisco. San Francisco played Green Bay twice.

Significantly better roster. They added two first-round picks that can play. Brandon I, Yuk, wide receiver, Arizona State, really good. in Shanahan's system, pop first year, and then a Javan Kinlaw, defensive tackle. Oh, by the way, they got Trent Williams. He traded for a Hall of Fame left tackle. Green Bay, I'm supposed to believe,

picked a player in the first round who won't play and then gave up a fourth rounder to move up and get him. What are you doing? Aren't you chasing San Francisco? San Francisco added three great players, and they're already better. Like, what are you doing? Like, to me, Aaron's,

being totally forthright, no passive aggressive. Listen, I get the game. Green Bay is saying it's going to be here a long time. Then why would you draft it? So this is one of my complaints, that when you are a head coach or a general manager, I have a GM, Brett Veach chief's coming on next hour. You've got to prepare for press conferences. And this year, Matt Llewer's got to prepare for press conferences.

This is going to get asked a lot. Because once you draft a guy, everybody, except Aaron Rogers last 10 years, every quarterback drafted in the first round last 10 years except Aaron Rogers has played in the first two years. Jordan Love's going to play. But you've got to know how to answer the question. So we're going to do

fake press conference. All right. Fake press conference. I am going to be Matt LaFleur. Look at that. Very nice. I don't look like him. Okay. So John, let's have okay, fake press conference. Okay. Okay. So I'm going to prepare for this. press conference. I got my notes. And Joy Taylor is going to be a series of different,

hardened, cynical journalist. Go ahead. Bill, Sheboygan Press. After hearing Aaron's comments last week about Jordan Love, how should Aaron feel about the team drafting Jordan? Well, Aaron's a total adult. I mean, don't draft a quarterback in the first round if you think it's going to hurt your quarterback's feelings. I never had to worry about that. There's a lot of quarterbacks that would have been bothered by it. They're insecure. Aaron Rogers is a first ballot Hall of Famer with one ring and probably more coming.

Martha, Green Bay, Press Gazette, why did the team feel the need to move up to get Jordan Love? Well, if your quarterback's 36 and has had a couple of injuries in the last several years, you either draft a quarterback

or you go from 13 and 3, Martha, to 3 and 13 really quickly. This is a family. we're all in this together. We have not had a bad quarterback at this organization in 25 years. We're not starting now. Frank LaCross Tribune. Hi, Frank.

How much have you talked to Aaron in the last few months? Oh, I talk to Aaron all the time. He's the most important player in our organization. Okay. Bart Kenosha Times. Are you worried about the quarterback situation becoming a distraction? For opponents, I think we're going to be very confusing to prepare for. Um, not at all.

This is, in fact, this is year two. I am more comfortable this morning than I've ever been with Aaron Rogers. I think our comfort level is sensational. I've never felt more quarterback comfortable with a quarterback in my life, with a player in my life than Aaron Rogers. Uh, this is Wally from the Eclare Leader Telegram. You guys are still in business? We are. Gone strong.

Do you still feel this team can contend for a Super Bowl with Aaron Rogers at quarterback? Absolutely. Absolutely. No question. Shirley from the Cheesehead blog, how tough is it to coach a personality like Aaron? Well, I don't really understand the question. I don't think how hard is it to coach Aaron? It's the easiest guy I've ever coached.

Every coach in the world wants Aaron Rogers. Who wouldn't want Aaron Rogers? This is Joy Taylor from FS1. I watch that show all the time. It's the one show in the country. country that seems to be brilliant and breaks news. And all GMs trust your show. The host, not so much.

Joy, you're excellent, though. Thank you, Matt. How long do you think Aaron will be a Green Bay Packer? If he ages as well as Tom Brady, there's some magic potion in Foxborough, Jordan Love will be a really great trade piece in three years. And I am feeling very good about both the development. of Jordan Love and the health of Aaron Rogers this morning. Colin Cowherd from the herd.

Yeah. Have you noticed a decline in Aaron's play? Well, we were 13 and 3. You find me a head coach. If we win 12 games, are we declining? I don't see that. I know what I see on film, and Aaron makes more difficult throws than anybody in the league.

Has this team gotten better since last season? Yes, because Aaron and I have worked together. I think the symmetry offensively is better. And remember last year we went out and made several free agent moves on the defensive side. It takes years to adjust to a system. So I think on both sides of the ball, we're going to be more equipped for change, more equipped to quickly pivot in games and during the week. I think we're a better football team and a smarter football team today than a year.

ago. Was that difficult? These are not difficult questions. I mean, I don't understand this. Oh, we hope we have them a long time. Well, then that begs the next question. Then why'd you give up two draft picks to get him? Listen, all you have to say is, if Aaron ages as well as Tom Brady,

Jordan's going to be a hell of a draft piece in three years. All you have to say is, if you don't draft, what you perceive is a great prospect. our scouts come back to me and say this is what we were saying about Aaron 10 years ago if you don't take advantage of that you go we're a rolled ankle from 13 and 3 3 and 13 I don't think these are difficult questions

I really don't I I mean I thought Matt was was a little condescending to Colin Coward if I'm being honest Well Coward gets a little ahead of a ski sometimes Not everybody likes Coward Carol likes coward. I feel like a lot of your fake press conferences tend to lean a little Belichickian. Well, it's the best coach ever.

Yeah, I mean, I'm coughing the right guy. You are right, right. I'm not copying the, you know, the 18th best coach in the AFC history. Yeah, I mean, I think if I was a coach, I would prepare for it and be very bottom line. You know you're going to get these questions. Of course. Like, I mean, it was like during the White House when COVID first hit and the president would go out there, it was like they didn't prepare for it.

You know what you're going to be asked. You know exactly what's coming to. You have to walk up and go, we're going to be asked. I would hire somebody if I was a president or a coach. I'd have somebody in the building. Give me the four questions that are going to be asked today. Yeah, they have a whole entire PR department. Okay.

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