The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Are the Heat in trouble?

Episode Date: May 26, 2023

More on the Celtics win in game 5 and their chances of winning the series against the Heat   Guest: Eddie House   #douggottliebshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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9 to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS1. Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Heard. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What up? Welcome in. This is The Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be making this part of your day. Thanks so much. I'm Doug Gottlieb, in for Colin. On a Friday. Memorial Day Friday, which means a lot of you're trying to decide, do I do the beach or do I do the lake? We can all agree. Lake, better to go into. Beach, more of a vibe. Is that fair? and like, look, some people you don't have the choice. You know, you live close to the beach, you go to the beach.

You live close to the lake, you go to the lake. Some people are like, dude, I'm going to play some golf. We'll be with you Monday. We'll have to have some cookout discussion, I think. Maybe a little grilling hierarchy, what to throw on the grill or the smoker, depending on it. And a strong reminder, right? Just because you're cooking on the grill does not mean you're barbecuing something.

Barbecuing is barbecuing. Grilling is grilling is grilling. Cooking out is kind of universal. That's the views of Doug Gottliebink. We got a great best for last. The best for last is going to, have you seen the video yet, Jason Stewart, of the American Airlines flight

that landed without one of the doors because a passenger freaked out and tried and opened one of the doors and the door flew out. I did not see the video. There is video, cell phone video, two different cell phone videos of it. It's good to know, though, that if something happens like that and everyone's wives are in danger, that somebody will still compose enough to get cell phone footage, thank you.

Well, I mean, like, there's a lot to it. When I was a kid, I think, here's how my memory works. I believe there was a, it could have been Hawaiian air, but I want to feel like it was Aero Mexico, where a portion of the plane actually broke off and they had to land and I don't think anyone died. I'm not sure. But I remember like that was nightmare fuel.

You're like, wait, a piece of the plane broke off? What in the? and I think it was in, they landed in Los Angeles. Google will have to you. You Google, I'll get to the actual sports, and part of the discussion about it, about this door, I think you'll love it, our best for last.

I'll just tease it for you. It's the things you always feared could happen in kind of a everyday existence. That's our best for last. Let's get to this. Do people still watch the weather channel? I don't know what becomes of the weather channel. I'm a gigantic weather channel fan.

I don't know what it's about. I actually can tell you what it's about. When I was at ESPN, I made my, I mean, just meteoric rise. That's sarcasm. My rise in broadcasting is due in no small part to the weather, channel and acueather.com. And you're like, wait, acuether.com? Yeah.

So there's a guy who worked the most imitated former ESPNner during my decade there is a guy who works for, I think he works for MSG. He does the pre and post I know for the Knicks. His name's Bill Pito. And Bill Pito is a great dude. He's from Palo Alto, but somehow, has developed some sort of southern charm when he's he used to he had a reoccurring nightmare about dying in a car accident where there was black ice and so he would when there was bad weather

in Bristol Connecticut which was often um when there was he would he would grab anybody who walked by and said should should they get in three to six but You'd be careful now. If it's icy, it's dicey. You just go stay at the clarion next door. There's a hotel right next door. And that's what he would do. If it was bad weather, he lived like 10 minutes away, 15 minutes away.

And he would just reoccurring. I'm not dealing with that nightmare. I'm going to stay at the hotel. And I was like, Bill, how do you know the weather is going to be bad? He's like acuweather.com should. You can look two weeks in advance. So I used to look two weeks in advance, but with different motives. See, I went to work at the worldwide leader because I was doing basketball games and local radio.

And I was hired to do national radio with a guy named Chuck Wilson. It's called Game Night. It was six hours, four nights week. And once I got in the building, I would go in the late great Barry Sachs who recently passed away. Barry used to run ESPN news. And I go in and go like, hey, Barry, do you need me for anything? Well, you know, we can only use you on. days that you're doing radio because they didn't want, because they only had to pay you extra if

you had to come in on a day you weren't already working. So I would come in and come in at like three o'clock, do a couple of hits on ESPN news. I'd watch Kirk Herbstreet do ESPN News. That's how I learned how to learn in the business, watch how he turned, just do every, try and do everything in terms of mechanics the way that he does it. That's it. And, but then when I learned about acueweather or weather.com, weather.com, which is the weather channels website, I'd look in advance and I would see, whew, a nor'easter was coming. Jay Stu, do you know what a nor'easter is? Any idea?

I know it's like weather that is up in the northeast. Is that accurate? In a technical definition, that's part of it. A nor'easter is specific to the northeast corridor of the United States. And here's what happens. There's what's called an Alberta clipper. Alberta is in Canada. So you've got a cold, low pressure system coming down from Canada.

You've got a low pressure system coming from the Midwest. They meet usually over New England. And then there's a high pressure system that somehow gets parked off of like Cape Cod. Right. So the high pressure system keeps those two low pressure systems right over, whether it's Connecticut, Massachusetts, whatever, New England. And instead of getting a dusting, which in that area of the country, dusting is three to six, six to seven, six to eight inches, whatever.

Instead, you can get 30, 40 inches of snow in like a day. Because the cold weather mass, which has the moisture and it's churning from that high pressure system is mixing with the low pressure systems and it's cold and it drops a ton of snow. That's called a nor'easter. I used to love them. And I loved them, not just because I love snow and I grew up in California and the kids would play in it and I'm like a big kid, but also because I was the only like

basketball analyst that lived in the area. So this is back in the days of Digger Phelps and Dick Vital and Jay Billis, all those guys would have to fly in. And I would look and be like, I would go and knock on a boss's door, a guy named Dan Steer who hired me. And I would say, Danny, Billis can't get in. He's in D.C. You got Nor'Easter coming.

If you need me tonight, let me know I'm available. And by year two, I got to do a couple shows. year three, I'd have to do a bunch of shows. Year four, I'm on the schedule. But I was the constant, consummate fill-in guy because of weather. Right? Because of weather.

So I have an affinity for the Weather Channel for AccuWeather. And then when I grew up loving is looking at advance, but also the hurricane season, you'd look and they pick out, well, you look off of Anguila. There's, somehow they can look, look at these little storms and go like, well, this is going to track here and hit this warm water and look at the temperature of the warm water and like, we're two weeks out and you can tell

me what may or may not be a hurricane even with all these potential tracks? Like, yeah, that's the power of the weather channel. Now everybody just looks at their phones like, oh, it's sunny today, cool. What's it going to be this weekend? Good. Well, there was a, there's a hurricane that's been forming off the coast of Anguila that I believe is potentially, potentially going to make landfall in game six. That's the reality to it. Going to make landfall in game six. Because once the Celtics woke up in game four

and won one on the heats floor, then you factor in, everybody thought they were going to win last night. And, and I'm not sure how big. a contributor, Victor O'Ladipo, would have been. They might be better without Tyler Hero, but you lose your starting point guard to an ankle injury. And suddenly now, the Miami Heat have gone from, they're going to sweep the Celtics.

The Celtics are imploding to, is Gabe Vincent going to play? Remember, Gabe Vincent, in the playoffs, 13 a game, four assists a game, one and a half turnovers, two and a half assisted turnover ratio in 31 minutes. And, and, you know, Kyle Lowry's, his backup got to start last night. Kyle Lowry's a shell of his former All-Star Self. And it's not just about Kyle Lowry taking his minutes as a starter.

It's about who takes Kyle Lowry's minutes. Now you're just plugging holes. Just plugging holes. And when the Celtics said, don't let us get one. one, they got one. You could kind of see the storm clouds off of Anguilla. I don't actually know where Angila is. I just don't want to make sure that everybody knows that.

I just think it's kind of a cool sounding. It's not Antigua. It's Angila. And now you're like, oh, it feels like there's a storm coming. Because if you lose game six, now you go to Boston, where, where you just, You just had one of the great game sevens in the history of the sport from Jason Tatum. At home in Boston Garden with that sort of kind of viciousness on, would it be on Memorial Day too, won't it?

If the heat lose game six at home and it's, I mean, I don't know what you can do without potentially two starters. That's a wrap. That storm is coming through South Beach. coming through. I'll get some insight from a guy who actually won a ring with the Celtics. Can they replicate the past two games for two more games? What has changed about the Celtics? There's got to be some schematics that have changed.

There's got to be something that has changed with the Celtics. Who would know? Eddie House would know. He joins us next in the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Rule of Two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. podcast. Doug Gottlieb in for Colin. This is The Herd. We'll get to more on the DeAndre Hopkins story upcoming. Got Herdline News plus a great best for last. Eddie Howes joins us. He's a former NBA player, awesome, awesome talent Arizona State. Of course, member of Boston's 2008 NBA

championship team and analyst for NBC Sports Boston. And he joins us now in the herd. Eddie, what's changed schematically for the Celtics over the past two games? I don't think of anything schematically. I think it was all hard mindset is what changed. They play harder now. They've been playing the same way as far as offensively. You know, they still get their threes. They attack.

They've been getting downhill, trying to get more paint touches offensively. But I don't think that's schematic. That's just something that you do if you're a basketball. player, right? You always want to get the ball in the teeth of the defense. You've got to get paint touches. And then that's how the ball spreads around the perimeter and you get open shots. You want to make the defense always rotate. So schematically, I don't really see that they did anything different except guys stepped up and said, hey, man, we're not going out like this. They're playing with more passion. They're playing with more purpose. Their intentions on,

attention to detail has been phenomenal. They're not blowing coverages. They're not over We're helping. Miami's a team that plays off two feet. If you watch them, Doug, you know, being a basketball player, they play off two feet. Jimmy Butler comes in the lane, plays off two feet, pump fakes, pivot. Bam, pump fake, pivot. Same thing with Lowry, pump fake, pivot. Anybody that gets in the lane, they play off two feet. Well, what was happening in the first three games, selfies were losing their discipline on the defensive end.

Yep. They would overhelp, lose sight of their man. Max Truce relocate, Gabe Vincent relocate. now knee jerk reaction, kick out open threes. We haven't seen those open threes. The 50-50 balls, who's getting to them now? Mark is smart, first play at a game, a steal. Very short after that, a dive on the floor for a loose ball,

get another steel. They're just engaged defensively, and that's the only difference that I see, is that I see a team that's finally matching and exceeding the energy and the effort of the Miami heat. Because the only thing that beats more, superior talented team, and you could attest to this, is if one team plays harder than the other. But if talent and hard play come together, then you see the last two games what happened here

in game four and game five. Okay, so what was missing? Like, why was it not having Damon Stademeyer? Was he a guy who's the connective tissue between the coaching staff there? Like, what was it? I mean, what was it Joe Missoula's approach? Like, what was missing that they had these games? I mean, game three, they no-showed-for.

No show. I don't know. How does that happen? You know what? That's a great question. You know, the one thing that has been happening all season long, they've played like this. They've had the ups, they've had downs, and the one thing that I noticed, they have been resilient. So when ever their backs are against the wall, they've always came out and responded.

And to me, I don't know. It's hard to explain. I wrote this roller coaster with them all season long. right and the roller coaster ride is we know you know you are a better talented team but you get down you look for example they lose to Orlando three times this year right and they're much better team than Orlando not taking anything away from the players that Orlando have very good young core but we know that they're not in the playoffs haven't been in the playoffs in a while and you're going to get the team who is just coming off the finals with the same nucleus and same

core. It's just been mind-boggling all year, and that's the one thing that we, as analysts, with the Celtics, me, Scow, Perk, Amina, Tom Giles, everybody that's involved have been just like, what, sometimes you don't know what team to get you're going to get. But if you get this Celtics team that's engaged and locked in, which we have more than not, they're tough to be. what's your view what's your view of the likelihood that they win game six remember we don't know about gay vincent and even if you return you got a sprained ankle like it is hard to come back that

quickly from it and shoot the ball well as well as your agility what are your thoughts on game six well the one first thing everybody keeps talking about gay vincent like he's an all-n-bba player right he's a role player and he's been playing really really good basketball uh for for the miami heat but if you're hinging your season to be on Gabe Vincent's back is going to be the reason why you beat a team. To me, I don't, I don't, I'm not buying into that.

You know, I really, I'm not buying into that. But what I will buy into is I don't know what team I'm going to get. Like I said, man, it's one to the other. Like the first three games, the Celtics look like a total different team in game four and game five than they did the first three games. And Miami looks like a total different team. from the first three games to game four and five. And the only thing to change to me is the Celtics have matched and exceeded hard play.

50, 50 balls, deflections, getting steals. Think about this. When your leaders, team leaders, Jason Tatum took Jimmy Butler at the beginning of the game. He ends up with three steals in the first half. Jalen Brown ended up with two steals in the first half. They have a total of 13 steals. They have 12 offensive rebounds. Al Horford has five of those offensive rebounds.

They turn the heat over. 17 times to get 16 times to get 27 points. All those things are effort. And so I always take away the three-point shots that the Celtics make. But it all goes hand in hand. If they're locked in and engaged on the defensive end and connected and stay in discipline, then most of the time they get opportunities to get easy baskets. The basket opens up.

And then it looks like not only do they share the basketball, but they overshare it to the point of I'm going to pass up a good shot to get a great shot. Somebody passed up a good shot, gave up a great shot, and they knocked down those shots. So if they come with that team, I expect them to win game six. And if you want to come to this, and if they make it back to game seven, Memorial Day weekend, Memorial Day, excuse me, everybody's going to be drinking. It's going to be crazy. And last night was wild, by the way.

of one of the best atmospheres I've been around, and we won the finals there. This was right up there, and I know that game seven probably will exceed any of those games that we played in, even though we were in the finals. Yeah, no, it will be really hard for Miami to win that game if they don't win game six. Really, really, really difficult.

What are your chances on Miami winning game six or the Celtics? I thought the second they won game four, I thought that Miami we got a problem. And I agree with you on Gabe Vincent. The point, though, is that, like, Gabe Vincent is playing that much because Kyle Lowry doesn't have it anymore. Now you're having to start Kyle Lowry, which can be rough, and then what's behind Kyle Lowry?

You know, like, you get to, you know, you get to, like, they may be better without Tyler Hero, but now everything you have coming off the bench just does not have a ton of firepower and you're patching holes. and then the more older players play, the more they get worn down late in the series. I think the Celtics are going to win this series. I really do. I don't, I just, I can't explain game one and I can't explain game three. Those ones I just, I can't fathom, especially game three, which felt like a complete no-show.

And that should have been a backsup against the wall sort of game. Eddie House is our guest here in The Hurt. I'm Doug Gottlie, filling in for Colin on Fox Sports Radio, in the iHeart radio app. Look, LeBron's coming back. It's several different people have leaked that out. But what do you think was behind

the, hey, I got to think about it, sort of floating the retirement talk? I don't think it was floating retirement talk. I mean, everybody kind of bought into that. And I think LeBron is so calculated and he controls the narrative even when they lose. He's still the topic of conversation when they're not even the topic of conversation.

When they're not even the topic of the topic. of anything that's going on in the playoffs right now, right? But what I think that he has to reevaluate the situation in L.A. You know, he's coming back. He's not going to turn down that $47 million. Not that he doesn't need it. You know what I mean? I mean, not that he needs it, excuse me.

But at the same time, he loves to play basketball. He's a real, real hoophead. And he's looking at that roster. Like, okay, we did these trades. and we thought it was going to be right, but we do have some holes. How do we fix that? There's a lot to think about. To me, that's how I took it.

When he said there's a lot to think about, I wasn't thinking about him hanging it up. I was thinking about him looking at the team and saying, okay, we got Reeves, we got Rui, we got A.D., we got myself. Okay, rest of the roster on there, how do we get better, who's expendable, and who can we bring in to put us over the top? Okay, so if it's you, I mean, it's pretty obvious they need a starting caliber point card, but somebody good, somebody could break down defense, create shots. Like this is the first year where LeBron didn't, you know, end of the game a little bit in game four.

But for the most part, he played off the ball. He allowed the ball to move. He didn't kind of dominate it mostly because he can't do it as much anymore at his age. So who can? Who can he bring in that can fit with how he likes to play? But also, you've got to figure out the salary element. Well, you know the name that everybody's been throwing out there, and I think it does work if you can make it work,

it's Kyrie Irvin. And the reason why I say that is he plays totally different than LeBron. Okay, so when he was in Cleveland, when LeBron and Kyrie was in Cleveland, right, you had LeBron, he played a certain style of basketball. You had Kyrie play a certain style of basketball. Both could play on ball or off ball. Then you had Kevin Love, a guy at a rebounder,

to stretch the floor, knock down threes, and then you had all the other pieces that you passed up the rest of the roster with. Same thing here. You got AD. He plays totally different, so he won't be in the way of LeBron's success. We already seen that AD and LeBron work. Adding Kyrie, to me, that's a guy that you could count on in the fourth quarter, where if LeBron carries you, like he's had in these playoffs against Denver,

he did great in the first half, but then fall off the second half, because, you know, just the way, you know, things work. He's tired. He gets burnt out. Anthony Davis, I thought, played solid but could play better. That's a guy that could take over in the fourth quarter. He's known for making big shots in the fourth quarter. He's not scared of it.

He could play on-ball, off-ball. The whole question is, what are you going to have to do to get him? You don't want to give up Reeves and you don't want to give up Rui, which I believe that that's possibly what people are going to be going for. Yeah. But, I mean, Dallas is going to offer him the max. They can't. They can't get nothing out of that trade and let him walk.

Just can't happen. And the Lakers, they can't get there financially? No, they will have to. Whatever there's a wheel there's a way. You know this, Doug. Where there's a wheel there is a way. Now, do you deplete your whole roster to have those three guys and then, you know, Anthony Davis gets hurt all the time?

I think he's a perfect fit, put it like that. But then I'll alter her other names, you know, Fred Van Vliet. Would that be a good fit? I think that would be a nice fit. another guy that can stress the floor can play on the ball, can play off the ball. But to me, the Kyrie Irvin thing is seeming like the most, the best fit for them as far as what they want.

Now, I mean, the Trey Young stuff that I heard, that just you don't get better. You get better offensively, but you lose a lot defensively. Because I think Trey Young is a hell of a talent. He gets a raw deal. from people. I think he's one of the best passers in the league and he's a phenomenal score as well.

So, I mean, I have, I got, I got no issues with Tray Young offensively. It's just at LeBron's age, he can be, like, he can be a little bit of a defensive liability.

You can't have two defensive liabilities. Plus, it's just hard to hide a small guy, especially when he's not a good defender. And with Kyrie, it's about money. I don't think they can get there financially. Like you said,

stripping down the whole club doesn't work. So, like, there's got to be somebody else out there. I just don't know who it is. Let me ask you about the Warriors. If the Warriors' plan is, hey, let's get what we can get for Jordan Poole and some of these other dudes and run it back with our big three. Is that a viable plan? Well, I think that's part of the reason why they didn't get where they went. And you've seen all of the road losses and how different they were at home on the road.

On a row, you're forced to hang around with each other. You've got to be around. And a lot of times that's that team building is when you team build when you're on the road. When you're at home, you're with your families and things like that. Obviously, we know that the punch hurt around the world definitely kind of split that team down the middle. I think it's split it from the veterans to the youngsters.

You know, you heard about Kaminga complain about paying time. You've heard about Jordan Poole and you've seen how he has been playing. Moody, not playing like, you know, he probably will want to play. I think that you have to get off of him. I think you will have to move Jordan Poole and get what you can for him. And what is that? And who wants Jordan Poole?

I'll tell you this. For me, watching how Jordan Poole plays a game, it's cool at the park. But playing winning basketball, even though he was on the championship team, I think he takes questionable shots. At times he doesn't, even Steph Curry got kicked out of a game because of that,

how upset he was through his mouthpiece in the stands. At times, I don't think he understands clock situation. He just goes out there in hoops. Like, just goes out there and just hoops, like the time and score doesn't matter. But it does, though. Of course it does. Of course it does. So when I don't want to, that's kind of like a loose cannon.

Like, you can hoop, I give you that, you could ball out. You got, you got game. But it's levels to having game. You know, are you just a straight park play? or are you somebody that we could depend on in crunch time situations that's not going to take a crazy shot? So I'm looking for them. They're going to ride with their OGs. It's been abundantly clear.

When they didn't do that for KD, trust me, they're not going to do it for Jordan Poole. Okay. I need full honesty here, okay? Obviously, you work for NBC Sports Boston. You cover it. You cover the league. You got your sons to watch as well, right? How many Nuggets games did you watch this year?

All the playoff games, and that's it. Like maybe a glimpse here and there of the Nuggets, and that's why when I've seen these playoffs, like I watch every playoff game this year of every team. I watch every playoff game. And Joker is amazing. Jamal Murray is a walking bucket. I think that that team plays so fast,

but so on the control with Yolkich running the point. It's so different because there's not really that many shot blockers in the league anyway, right? It's not everybody's kind of interchangeable, size-wise and all those things. But there's not really a shot-blocker. What Yokish does to the shot-blocker is take him away from the basket. And he's such a willing passer has a high basketball IQ that you see back cuts, you see dunks, you see lobs, you see him making people. plays because there can be a back cut alive to a guy on the on the on the on the on the on a

perimeter for three I thought everything that people were saying about him was valid when they were like he should win a third MVP because I was one of them this was like no I don't think that he should win a third MVP what has he done in the playoffs even though there are two separate things but still we get three times you got to have some type of a of postseason success but I mean without him on that team that team is not, I don't know, they might not even be 500. You know, they're below 500. He's incredible, but the point is more that, like,

you're a basketball guy, you work in basketball, and whether it's Mountain Time Zone or their lack of TV coverage or the fact that they haven't won a championship or been to the finals before, like nobody was watching every game. Nobody. Or even any game, you know? And so, like, they're complaining about, how aren't you paying attention to us?

Like, we're paying a lot more attention than, we used to. Trust me. We are paying attention. Just right now we've got to deal with the teams that lost. Eddie, great stuff, man. Have a great weekend. We'll see if there's a Monday in Boston. It'll be hype. No doubt. Be safe, man. You too. Eddie House joining us here in The Herd. Let's get to Jason Stewart with Heard Line News.

No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. For those who missed it, Doug, Cardinals now former Cardinal DeAndre Hopkins has been released by the team

as of about an hour ago just he's been released so any team can now deal with him and sign him just a matter of making it work financially. Now Doug I know you've you know working with you a while here I know you kind of want to like to get down in the

weeds with the cap hit and whatnot you know DeAndre Hopkins carried a 30 million dollar cap hit. That's the highest among any receiver in the NFL. He was going to carry that into this season. Now the Cardinals are going to take $22.6 million in dead cap space hit. So financially, it didn't make a whole lot of sense, but he's been released, Doug.

Well, no, it makes sense. So here's what people have to understand. It doesn't cost them a penny to release them, right? All the money is paid. But they're still $22.6 million in dead cap money by releasing him. So that's going to take away from who they can replace him with. They'll replace him with younger wide receivers, right? But that's what, so what, he's not owed a penny,

but that's what the team carries with him. That was what was supposedly protecting him from getting cut. And they're willing to swallow that pill in order to cut him. And then, of course, what's widely being reported is teams did want to trade for him, but he wants a new contract, which is at or higher than the $19 million he was supposed to make next year. And they're like, we'd love to have you. But we don't want to give you a new contract that's at that money.

And oh, yeah, by the way, then we have to give up additional pieces in the draft as well. So he'll be re-signed. Somebody will sign him. But my guess is it'll be below what he was slated to make. And we'll see. Because, again, contractually, if they were to keep him, it would have been roughly $35.5.36 million. Let's see it's above or below that in terms of real guaranteed money moving forward. And you take a look at the Cardinals. I mean, I think since the beginning of last season or even before that, this, it just, I remember you and I were doing the show a year ago when the Kyler Murray's story broke about, you know, the contract and then putting something in the contract and taking it out. And then he tore his ACL. I don't even think they know who they're going with, for you.

a starting quarterback to start the season. Are they just going to punt on this entire season in Arizona and hope for the first or second pick? Well, you also have to have to factor in that with their roster, they have to play Jonathan Gannon, who looked, I mean, look, I understand that Nick Casario looked completely overwhelmed with the Eagles when he got to be the head coach.

And now, like, he's got all this swagger and he's got the best team in the NFC. But what changed for him was that roster's awesome. Ganon looked as out of place as any guy I've seen, not just at his presser, but like his interactions, they posted some stuff on social media like, yikes. But they have to figure out their offense.

As you said, not really knowing who their quarterback is going to be, but also you got to build an offense that's fit for Kyle Murray, because Calumery's going to be your quarterback when he come back. So you play Colt McCoy in Kyle Murray's offense? Is that what you're going to do? you know, or Jeff Driscoll, who's a very good athlete, kind of a lifer backup in the NFL. Like, those guys are good guys.

But you're going to have to play them in an offense fit for Kyler Murray. And then you don't know if Kyler Murray plays this year. He doesn't play this year, and you get the number one overall pick. You've got to take Caleb Williams, don't you? And then you've got to move on him. Like, the whole thing is a mess. So some of it is not just Hopkins, his value, how much you want. Some of it is, I don't think the Cardinals are, they know they're going to,

bottom out this year. And that's going to be hard because that league's, that division's going to stink. I mean, we don't know who the Niners starting quarterback's going to be. And for how long? I can't think that Gino Smith's as good as he was last year when he was amazing, but we have 10 other years to tell us that he's not that guy. And then who knows with the Rams? Like literally, nobody has an idea. It's wild. Wow. And that's Jason Stewart with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. I'm going to give you a couple minutes. If you missed it, Google it.

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I wanted to share this one with you. This is a new one. Do you guys remember the videographer that was in the old wrong place, wrong time, crossing in front of D'Andre Hopkins. No, not D'Andre Hopkins, excuse me, Devante Adams of the Raiders when he was walking out the field in Kansas City. Do you remember that? Yep. Yeah. Do you remember what I said at the time? There's a different video angle where Hopkins, I'm not Hopkins.

Why don't I keep saying Hockett? Because he got cut today. Devante Adams is walking on the field, and the guy kind of appears out of nowhere. and Adams' hands go out, push him. The only thing missing was for Devante Adams in that moment was like, oh, hey, dude, I didn't see you. Are you okay? Now, a Raiders security guy kind of grabs him and like, tells keeps it going into the locker room. That guy is suing the Raiders, the chiefs, and D'Andre Happ, I keep doing it.

Devante Adams saying he feared for his life after said incident. Oh, boy. I mean, the question becomes, what is the amount? that you can allow it to go away at, right? That's what DeVante Adams is going to have to deal with. What is the check? How much of a check do I have to write so that this goes away? You know? And if you're the videographer, there's a limit there to how much you're going to push, right? You got to pay for your lawyers. Because if you push this thing and it goes to court and you lose, you could have to pay for Devante Adams court, you know, lawyer fees. But I mean, dude, go and look at the

angle that I tweeted at the time. The reason the NFL had no punishment was, one, the guy shouldn't have been there. And two, I mean, Devante Adams, he's walking off the field and you're in Kansas where dudes are yelling at you, scream at you was incredible. Remember, it's a close football game that they lost late because it's the Raiders. That's what the Raiders did last year. You know, last thing you're thinking of is somebody's going to pop up in your way. I'm team Devante Adams on this one. He didn't get a red penny. You're not supposed to be there. You're not supposed to be there. You walk in an athlete's way when he's trying to get off the field. And, you know, they're throwing stuff at you, yelling at you.

Last thing you're thinking is in your way. Could he have gone like, hey, man, I apologize. Absolutely. And afterwards, he did, you know, like he, it felt like he was remorseful, said as much. But, I mean, we've lost the ability to, you know, to, you bump in, like now, if you bump into a guy, like in a club, do you take a Dennis Schrooter and take a charge and then sue the guy? No, you don't. you don't hear as well.

Let's get to the best for last. It's almost the end of the show, but that doesn't mean we're phoning it in. Nope, we grind to the very last segment. It's time for best for last. Here's the story, okay? It was a

an Asiana Airlines Airbus 321 was landing in South Korea today, which is yesterday, right? Because they're a day ahead. And as they're coming into land at an altitude of 700 feet, some guy gets up and opens the emergency door. People try and stop them eventually, as they can't stop, they hop back in their seats and they buckle their seatbelts. There's video of this taking place after the door is open,

wind whipping in, 12 people injured, everybody's relatively okay. That's something you get PTSD from, not running into Devante Adams. So we thought to ourselves, like, everybody's been sitting in that emergency door thinking like that door's not open but what would happen if it's that one thing you're sitting like if somebody goes crazy and tries to open this door what would happen? I thought of the, that's the five worst things that you can think of happening happening in a given day. Number five. Let's go with door opening on a plane, right? Door opening on a plane. You sat there. You've answered that would you open this door in an Emergency? I need a yes. I can't do a head nod. I need a yes. You got to look the flight attendant in the eye and go, yes. That's on any list. Anybody who's traveled. Especially like, what if I fall asleep and all of a sudden the doors open? That's number five.

Number four. Breaks go out. Be it on a steep hill or just like you're in traffic, like the idea of your brakes going on. Or maybe even worse somebody else's breaks going out. I mean, we've seen it in movies and I know it occasionally happens. It happens with semis sometimes well, where you're like, what if you went to hit the brakes and nothing happened? Oh, that would be scary. Number three. This is more so that we're growing up in Southern California, right? But if we were alive for the Bay Area earthquake or the Northridge earthquake, you're driving. There's an earthquake. You don't know it because you're driving.

and all of a sudden you're in an underpass, an underpass. And I know they try and tell you that like the arch of a doorway inside the house is the safest place to be, but in an earthquake on a freeway, get me away from underpasses and bridges, right? Number two. Power goes out in an elevator. Now, packed elevator. You can't get out. You're in between floors.

It's hot, sticky. You don't know when you're getting off. How do they get to you? You just kind of stranded there. Oh, that's got to be top five anybody's list. Number one. And this is one. This is one I used to love living in the East Coast when you get those gigantic icicles.

You know, it gets warm enough to melt some. Then it freezes again. You got these big ones. But anybody else had the fear of walking underneath one of these icicles falling and then like stabbing you? That's number one for me. When you live on the East Coast, the thought of an icicle. an icicle, ice pick, stabbing you somewhere in the head falling on you when you're just walking doing your own thing.

That's my number one greatest everyday fear in the winter. That's our best flash. All right, listen, have yourself a great Memorial Day weekend. We'll be back with you Monday. I do believe we'll have an NBA game Monday, but we'll see, right? We'll see if heat culture can pull themselves out of this tailspin there in some way. And oh yeah, by the way, this is why you play a seven-game series, why the NBA loves the longer series, because traditionally the better team wins. Or maybe the healthier team wins.

Like, let's be honest. If the Lakers play a healthy grizzlies, they probably don't beat the Memphis Grizzlies. Now the heat aren't healthy without two starters, without Oladipal. I don't know how much you would have helped them anyway. And the Celtics have found their mojo. I think we see the Celtics Monday. Have a happy weekend. Enjoy the Doug Gottlieb show.

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