The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd-HOUR-3-Around the NFL

Episode Date: October 7, 2020

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Again, he is a free agent, is joining us live right now. They are the most talked about defense in the NFL. Troy Aikman said, listen, man, I would be embarrassed to have that. stuff on film and go into the meetings this week and have players called, you know, it's embarrassing. So I watched that this week against Cleveland. And this was my criticism, Gerald. You knew Cleveland was going to run.

You knew that. And they kept getting the edge for three hours. Nick Chubb got hurt. They still got the edge. In your opinion, why didn't they adjust? Well, I wouldn't say that they didn't adjust. I just think the adjustments didn't work. And to speak on what Troy Agnes said, he says it would be embarrassing to go into that meeting

room and have to watch the film. I'm pretty sure they are embarrassed. You know, one of their own said that their play was soft. You know how hard it is as a grown man and professional what you do, the call what you just did, the performance you just had soft, you know, that takes a lot of ownership. So I'm pretty sure they're not sitting in the meeting room, you know, hyped about what they've been doing over the first. four games, the first four weeks. But I believe in these guys, you know,

they have a bunch of vets in the room on defense. And I believe they can turn around, but it's not going to be easy. I'm not saying it's just going to happen this week, but something's got to give, man. You know, the play that stood out to me the most was the O'Dell play. You know, you have a chance to go up,

or you have a chance to get a stop to try the game or even go up. And, you know, it's just, just Odell bifted back 15 yards, I think it was, something like that. You know, and it's just at that point when the game on the line, I'm sure they all know, and I'm sure they walk in the meeting room and said, our effort has to be better. That's not the effort we need when we're trying to get back to the game. And I'm not saying that I'm pretty sure that they already are not saying to themselves,

but it's just clear. You know, the effort just has to be better on that play. And these guys play hard, but that particular. particular play just stood out as far as effort goes. Yeah, no, I think you saw, and I saw what it. You could just turn the T of E on and see it. So Mike Nolan's the new defensive coordinator. People are saying his system is too complicated.

Could that be it? You know it. You were there. Is it too complicated? I want to say that it's complicated. It's up front, you know, in the back end, they have a few more checks to make. But up front, it's not super complicated. You know, I think the misconception is, you know, he's bringing in guys.

and having them do things that they're not used to doing. You know, the ends, all that you see Alder stand up because that's what he does. But Alton can put his hand in the dirt if you want. He can stand up. DeLaw can stand up. He can put his hand in the dirt. They have that freedom. So when you see guys mixing it up, that's freedom of choice, you know.

And up front, it's not really a lot to it. And it's just all about execution. You know, in the back end, they have a few more checks you make. But I don't think it's the scheme that's over. complicated. I just think the guys just not getting it done. And they realize it, you know, and they're going to do everything and they try and fix it. Gerald McCoy, 10 years, six Pro Bowls. He's a free agent. And boy, there's a lot of good teams out there like Baltimore and Seattle that could use his skills. So they have not been a

fast starting team. And you've been in this league long enough. Some, like New England, you go to Foxborough and that first 15 plays, man, they are humming every single week. And I don't, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVey, there are certain coaches. You just first 12 plays work. Why do you think Dallas is struggling offensively? They're getting into these holes, which doesn't allow Zeke to get 22 carries because you're playing catcher. Why? You've been on a lot of, you've been playing this league for a long time.

Why do you think Dallas struggles for the first quarter to quarter and a half? Honestly, I'm not sure because it's all about game play. It's all about knowing what you see. Like, if this was Tampa when I was there or Carolina when I was there, I could answer that question honestly. But not being there to see what the office is doing throughout the week. I don't know. I'm not sure.

But what I do know is NFL 101 is hard to maximize a dominant runnerback when you fall behind. You know, people are saying, well, Zeeq is not doing what we expect Zeeke to do. What Zeke actually is doing what he's supposed to do, but when you fall behind, it's hard to give a guy like Zeke the ball over and over. You can't run the ball when you fall behind. You've got to start passing. And Zeke is a ground and pound-type runner back. He wants those carries. He won't mind getting 30-plus carries a game.

He wouldn't mind it because he loves to just grind defenses. But when you fall behind, you don't have that luxury, you know, and they just got to do a better job of starting fast. By the way, he has a torn right quad. I assume torn right quad. So before we get on to my Buccaneers question, are you officially out for the year? Could you come back late in the playoffs or where are you at with your recovery?

Yeah, I'm out for the season. I'm seven weeks out as far as from my surgery. It's seven weeks on Tuesday. But I'm ahead of schedule. I'm doing great, but it's no rush. Okay. The doctors already said I'm out for the season, So what's the point in rush your back, man, come back as healthy as I can be and be the best me I can.

But it's going to take some time, but I'm willing to do it. I go to rehab five days a week. Wow. I start roughly 8.39 o'clock, and I'm leaving around 2 o'clock. So I'm all day every day. This is what I do. And then I come home and do more stuff. It's just all grind with me.

Gerald McCoy joining us. So you played in Tampa for nine years. You know this organization. You really know the personnel. And we were saying before the season started, Gerald, that I think Todd Bowles is the, I think he's the best coordinator currently in the NFL. I think he's the best one. And I think their defense at the end of last year really, really played well, especially in the front seven. So I don't think it's a Brady story as much as it is a defensive story to this point.

They shut the chargers down in the second half. Are you surprised at all? Every week they look a little better. You're probably not surprised by their quick turnaround this year, I would imagine. No, I'm not surprised by the defense because the defense, the offense was what people hyped up because of all the weapons they have. And obviously you have Tom Brady who's coming in who we don't even have to talk about what he's been to this league. But the defense with how they were able to finish the season last season, they were already established. So this team was going to be carried by the defense to start the season.

And once the office started to develop, as you've seen on Sunday, they developed even more with Tom, you know, throwing five touchdowns. It's going to do nothing but get better. And I just have to say this. I would be remiss if I didn't say this. And anybody who knows me and knows my love for this particular player knows I have to say this. Levanti David, okay? He was the player of the month, the defensive player of the month. And I think he is the most underrated linebacker we've ever had in this league.

He doesn't get the accolades, but he has all the numbers. Go look at his TFLs. Levanti David is second or third over the past five or six years or something like that, and he's in the conversation with J.J. White and Aaron Donald. This is Levanti David we're talking about. you look at his takeaways you look at his tackles he's not getting the all pro votes the pro bowl votes but he's just as good as all of these guys and if you ask around the league and bring up his name to any linebacker room to any defense and you say Levanti david they're going to say

this exact same thing so i'm so happy that the bucks are on center stage and everybody is going to get to see and the bucks getting all the pub they're going to be. been getting over the first four weeks of the season. First four weeks, he's already player the month. That's to let you know what he's been doing. This is not new. This is who Levanté has always been. And I personally think he's the best linebacker in football.

This is me. And I believe that he's been playing at that level for a number of years. And it's going to do nothing but continue. I think he's very underrated. And if you just go look at the numbers, if you don't believe it, just go look at the numbers. And then the next game and play, you got tomorrow. Just watch the game and see if Levantay David, jumps off the screen. Just do that.

And then you tell me I'm wrong after that. Now, you don't have to convince me. We talked about him in preseason. He is a complete baller. I will say, one thing that surprised me. Cam Newton goes to New England, and it has been great. I think they would have beaten Kansas

City Monday with Cam Newton. I am shocked how seamless it's been, how engaged he is. I think they're a nightmare. If they could get a vertical threat offensively, if I would, if I was Kansas City, I'd have no interest playing Cam Newton in New England again at all. I think there, are you surprised at all how seemingly?

He didn't even have a preseason. He didn't have OTAs. He got there late. Are you surprised how effective it's been? Me personally, I'm not. I played against Cam from the time he stepped in the league twice a year. And if you really pay attention to Cam Newton's career over the last three years, the struggles have come from injury.

Cam has been hurt. People are not paying attention to that. He's had shoulder surgeries. He's had shoulder issues. And last year, he just so happened to have a season ending injury early in the season. So because he's had injuries, people said his play has dropped.

Well, a healthy Cam Newton, which he was, he tried to tell everybody he was healthy, is hell to deal with. And the thing that people don't understand about Cam is leadership. cannot be measured. You can look at it and you say, oh, he's a leader or the media say, well, this guy's

the captain, well, this guy's a leader. No, no. Leadership is very hard to measure. And Cam's leadership ability, his energy, Cam brings an energy that is unmatched. And the glue that Cam is what's holding his team together. And I think it showed on Monday. His presence

not being around, they just didn't have the same type of energy. It just wasn't the same. Something felt different. That's right. Just his presence around that team It's changing them. And I'm excited to see moving forward because I agree with you. I believe if Cam had played, they would have won that game. Yeah, I think he's going to get an extension.

I thought he was a rental player for a year. I watched Monday and I'm like, nope, he's going to get an extension. New England's two good to get a top 10 pick. I would sign him today to an extension for the next couple of years if I was the New England Patriots. I think he should. He should. I think he deserve it.

And I believe it would be the right move. Yeah. Hey, it's great seeing you. Out for the year, Tornright Quad. He'll be back soon enough. And there's a lot of teams out there. I think that could give Gerald McCoy a look, buddy. I appreciate you coming on the show.

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. And as you can tell, I've been in a horrible mood. I'm not happy at all, miserable, sitting back watching football. I'm not smiling at all. Just everybody was wondering if I was sitting back miserable. Yeah, really miserable right now. You look like a happy guy to me, man.

Gerald McCoy. All right. Thanks, buddy. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

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Open your free, our heart radio app, Search learn the hard way and listen now. Chris Collins were surround the corner. First, though, Joy Taylor with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. The athletic put together their choices for the best NFL rookies

at each position based off their performances through the first quarter of the season. Oh, this is good, the athletic. Okay, that's the subscription-based newspaper thing, yeah. Yes, Justin Herbert beat out Joe Burrow as the best quarterback. Okay. Jaguars James Robinson, edged out Clyde, Edwards Hilar for the top running back spot. C.E. Lamb leads all rookie wide receivers as a member of the best passing offense in the league.

And Chase Young is ranked as a top edge rusher leading all the rookies with two and a half sacks despite missing a game. He is not going through position drills today at practice. He's doing work on a side field. So that's the update on Chase Young at this point. I'll tell you, that Patriot kid Michael on Wayno, he is on. And again, I don't watch offensive linemen. but in the games I've watched, he is really good. And so is Winfield the safety for Tampa Bay.

Yeah, he's on there too. He is a great. And Tristan Worf's. So Tampa's got two of them. Tampa, you know, it's funny. When I cover Tampa, they've always had players. They've always had good GMs. It's like, this is an organization that's had players.

They've had great coaches. They've always, they're the only organization in NFL history. They've never had like an elite quarterback. They've had everything else. Back to the, when they came out in the 70s, they had the Selman brothers, Leroy Selman, one of the classiest guys ever, one of the great defensive players, Warren Sapp, Darren Brooks. It was never a talent thing. It's never been a talent thing.

You know, I'm not going to lie, when you said preseason Tampa could win the Super Bowl. I did think you sounded a little crazy. I know. Sometimes I bite my tongue with you. Yeah, I know. That's so does America. But. They look pretty good.

They look pretty good. They do. They're getting better. Super Bowl good, but they look pretty good. And I'm very interested to see how they play tomorrow against there. So things got heated yesterday with the Braves and Marlins in game one of the NLDS. Ronald Ocunia Jr. started things off by flipping his bat after his leadoff run in the first inning. Then in his next step bat, he got hit by a pitch and exchanged words with Marlins pitcher Sandy Alcantara on his way to first.

And then the Braves won the game 9-5, but Ocunia still got some shots in afterwards. Why? I don't know. I mean, I flip a bat. I don't care. I don't have a problem with you flipping a bat. The point is, so you hit a homer off me, you flip a bat. Now I'm going to put you on base. Like, this is the playoffs.

It's like used to be in hockey. You can fight in the regular season, but once you get to the playoff, hockey, you can't have goons getting into fights because then you're at a deficit. You can't do. I just can't wait for the day when flipping a bat is no longer problem. It's so dumb. It's so. Like, everyone's not going to do it just because you're allowed to flip a bat.

So just. who we get there. It's like a few years ago when the NFL was penalizing the celebrations. It's like just because you make celebrations, it doesn't mean everyone's going to celebrate. You're still going to have guys who just walk over and hand the ball who aren't interested in dancing,

who aren't interested in bringing the whole team down. Sometimes they just want to give it to the offensive linemen so you can do a shimmy. It's just, it's okay. It's going to be okay. There's a certain rigidity to baseball that wears me out. It's like it's okay. It's a bad.

I figure this. One of the hardest things to do in sports is hit a baseball. and then to hit it over a wall, you don't get a second of, I'm the man. No. You don't get a second and a half. When you,

in the NFL. Just to hit it. Just delicately. If you ever had an, if you ever had an emotional moment in your life that you can't for, I remember when my daughter was born, my first child. I mean,

I was like out of myself. Like, there was like two minutes where I was literally like, I was out of myself. I couldn't control my emotions. Like crying, I couldn't control it. I'm not.

like I'm crying. I'm in a room. There's like if I scored a touchdown in the NFL and I beat a Pro Bowl corner, these are 24 year old kids. You cannot expect them to not be like a little out of themselves. Actually, fans at home or in the stands when they're there, actually react more excited and more emotional than the players are allowed to. But Marlins and Braves are playing game two right now. Game three will be in tomorrow.

One Eastern on FS1, Dodgers Padres night at 830 Eastern. on FS1. That was another good game yesterday. So it's NLDS game two. And the Dodgers beat the Padres five to one. Good night for L.A. Sports. Finally, Russell Westbrook showed his appreciation for the housekeeping staff in the bubble as he left Orlando. Westbrook confirmed he left a generous tip for the staff at the Grand Floridian Hotel. Generous is putting it mildly.

Yes. He told Taylor Rooks of Leacher report that the housekeeping staff took great care of the team and did their job at a high level so he felt like leaving a tip was the right thing. do. He wouldn't comment on the amount that he left, but it was reported it was $8,000. He also reportedly left his room virtually spotless. This is a very cool thing to do. And we've been talking about, you know, the players and the coaches, obviously, and the reporters. But there are whole staffs of people that are also in the bubble. I was watching something on Twitter yesterday about the chefs. Remember, the food was a big complaint at the beginning of the bubble. The NBA brought in professional top-level

chefs to cook all the meals for all the players and the staff. They can't leave their hotel. So they're quarantined within their hotel. Essentially, they're just working every day, all day, making food for the players, the coaches and staff, and reporters for that matter, that are in the bubble. So there are a lot of people who are quarantined in there making all this happen and work. Congratulations to the WMBA on another successful bubble. Hockey just finished theirs. And the NBA is about a week away from finishing theirs. Really remarkable.

And Russell Westbrook, tip of the cab. That's great. Yeah. I mean, Russ is a great guy. He does a lot of great things to the community and away from the court. But this was a nice thing to do. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. Chris Collinsworth, the great broadcaster on Sunday night football with Al Michaels. He'll be joining us next. He saw Carson Wentz, the guy I love up close and personal. I love Carson Wentz. And I think he gets a lot of heat, but he gutted out a road win. And he saw him up close and personal.

Chris Collinsworth next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,

or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.

So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?

Well, you can find out on The Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack.

I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that. sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really?

Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing,

we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person

while you hear on earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different. levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now.

I'm old enough to remember when Chris Collinsworth was a really fast skinny kid who played wide receiver at Florida. Then he got drafted by Cincinnati and was one of the fastest guys in the League forever. And now he's a star. 16 Emmys, NBC Sports, Sunday nights with Al Michaels, owner of Pro Football Focus, which is we rely on it all the time. They make me watch guards in the NFL. That's an achievement, folks. Chris Collinsworth is now joining us live. First of all, congrats and all your success. And this week, you got Russell Wilson, who I think is insane. And he made my sister like football. She lives up in Seattle. when you watch the film of him as you are doing right now,

why does he make everybody work? Will Disley was a blocking tight end at Washington. He was a defensive end when he got to Seattle. And then all of a sudden they draft him and he catches passes. What is the gift that Russell Wilson has to elevate undrafted? Gadget guy, project guy. What is it? Time.

Man, he buys time back there. He just moves around and makes defensive linemen and linebackers chasing him look bad. Now, it's interesting what they started doing here lately is starting to blitz some cornerback so you can get athlete on athlete to try and bring him down. But as he's moving around and buying time, and the other thing, Colin, I love, as a matter of fact, you'll hear me talk about it some this week during the game. The more I've been watching him, you know how like he gets like 10, 11, 12 yards deep sometimes? in his drop. And so when they're starting to come after him, he'll take off and sort of run

towards the line of scrimmage. Now if you're a linebacker or a strong safety, whatever, now you've got to try and figure out, what are we going to do with this guy? Are we going to come up and try and make the tackle on him? Or are we going to try and just stay back in coverage? And no matter what you do, you're wrong. But it's so amazing to watch him. He looks like a shortstop getting it and throwing it across the diamond, first base. Of course, he played second base. So all those weird angle throws. He's just really something. But I think the thing that he does best is a deep ball. He puts so much arc on those deep balls. And you think about a guy like Medcalf going down the field. And now the defensive backs five foot 10 and comes up to about his shoulder. And now he

raises his arm up there. And that ball is coming in at that kind of trajectory. I don't know. How do you stop it? I really don't. I was rooting for Carson Went Sunday. I like him a lot. I think he's got mental fatigue. They've lost receivers for three straight years. Philadelphia is tough on its quarterbacks. He's lost Frank Reich. I still believe in him. Is there been a moment in the last year or two that maybe you didn't, that's something that you were worried that it wasn't working? I think mentally you've got to keep your eye on people who are playing without their team intact. I mean, you look at that offense. I've never seen anything like it. I'd never seen the entire receiving core, minimum the first three, arguably the top four receivers on that team,

gone. Three of the starting offensive linemen in the game were gone. Then Lane Johnson got hurt during the game. I mean, you're talking about eight of the ten teammates that he thought he was going to have going into the season not being out there and not being ready to play. I thought in many

ways, Carson took the game over. Yeah. I mean, he was out scrambling and he was running. That's what he did against the Bengals. And everybody said, you know, the Bengals, oh, they tied the Bengals. That's horrendous. The tie against the Bengals now has them in first place. So I've seen Carson Wins make way too many plays to write him off at such a young age. Now, do I think that's possible between his knee and his back injury, you know,

that he's not quite physically where he was when he came in? Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. But I see him make too many great plays still to ever think that once this team gets back, together that maybe they truly are. I just assume the Cowboys were going to be the best team in this division this year. But here the Eagles are sitting on top. So who knows? I said I thought Joe Burrow was going to be Tony Romo. He played like Romo. He looked like Romo. Both have good arms,

not special. Burrell's better than I thought. I'm wrong. I think he's doing it with a below suboptimal offensive line. You live in Cincinnati. You know people on that staff. Are even they a tad surprised how good Burroughs been so far? I don't think so. I don't think so at all. Mike Brown believes that you have a quarterback and a chance, or you don't and you don't. In the 80s, we had two MVP quarterbacks,

and Kenny Anderson and Boomer O'Syerson, we went to two Super Bowls. And I think he thinks that's the magic formula. So when all these ridiculous offers were pouring in for Joe Burrow, Mike Brown said, no, baby, no, no. I know how I've got a chance to try and get back. to another Super Bowl again. I think I've got a potential MVP in my pocket

and I'm going to play him. You know, the interesting thing about him is in college, he was known as the deep ball passer, one of the most accurate deep ball throwers going in the game. He hasn't even gotten that part of his game going yet. So he's been magical, top 10 quarterback in the 20 yards and less category, but we have not seen him really begin to hit some of those deep balls the way that he did at LSU.

So I really look for him to get better. I think we're looking at the tip of the ice park. Yeah, well, their offensive line has to get better, too, to throw those deep balls. So I actually have no problem with fewer deep balls right now. Aaron Rogers is flourishing post-mic McCarthy. You look at the film. Is it more multiple? Are there more variables?

Is some of his success, the schemes are better? I mean, how do you explain it? I think his offensive line, the protection right now is real good. but what do you explain for his phenomenal last 10, 12 games? Well, and especially when you consider without Adams, without Lazard, that he's just making it up on the fly now. One thing, it was interesting, and I forgot to ask him about it, I should have asked him when we did the game against the Saints,

was exactly what was different. He was saying that he had gone back and looked at himself and what was different. My opinion of what was different over the last couple of years is the fact that he was not holding the ball as long. He had gotten to the point where every play was a little like Russell Wilson, where he wanted to get up and step up and through and buy time and create space and all that kind of stuff. But I think now he's got the double-edged sword going here.

Now not only is he still creative with those plays where he's buying time and stepping up and through, he's gotten back to what he once was, which is let's get rid of the ball at least 50% of the time in 2.5 seconds or less, which is sort of the dead in the middle, right? So let's get back, boom, and they go back, boom, and get back boom. And now all of a sudden the pass rushers, you think about it from their standpoint. If they know you're going to scramble and try and step up and through, what are they doing?

They're going, they're peeking, they're doing their fancy moves because they might have four seconds to rush the passer. You start throwing it in under 2.5 seconds. You turn everybody into a bull rusher. have no choice. They've got to try and go right down the middle of those offensive linemen. So the blocks get easier, the passes get easier. Now when you start to scramble and move, it's something unique, it's something different. It's another creative edge that he has. And the other part of it is that with nobody in the stands, this guy's the smartest guy

playing quarterback in the league. I mean, every time we meet with him, he absolutely blows me away with his memory, with he can recall sequences. We can call out a game from 2013. You remember in the third quarter, and we've already looked it up, right? Al's already looked it up. We've gone through the sequence and he goes, oh, yeah, we started with that little slant, and then we hit the hitch and go down the sideline. It blows you away. So now when you get in the stadium and there's nobody there and he can communicate and he goes, hut, hut, and these guys jump off sides and the safety comes down to this side in that line. linebacker starts to fall off and he goes,

I know what it is. All right, Lassard, go ahead. They run a slant for me right here and boom, they can hit it. The smarter guys, the guys that know their offense inside and out, the guys that know how to communicate at the line of scrimmage, they're gaining a huge advantage. So I think in this year, we're seeing the great quarterbacks separate even a little bit more. Owner of Pro Football Focus, 16 sports Emmys.

I only got about a minute left. Did you major in broadcasting in Florida? No, I majored in accounting. How boring is that? Then I got my law degree. And so that's it. Wow, you got your law degree. Never practiced, though, right?

How about that? You got your law degree in Florida? At the University of Cincinnati, it took me five years. And the number one thing I learned in law school was that I didn't want to be a lawyer. That's funny. You're not the first guy to say that, though, I bet. That's no fun compared to what you're doing now. He's got a podcast with all pro Richard Sherman.

They've teamed up weekly podcasts. Second one's coming up, iTunes, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. Say hi to Al. Absolute pleasure. We'll be watching Sunday night, Chris. Good talking to your pal. All right, Chris Collinsworth. Yeah, I remember at Florida, he was so fast.

Chris was such a burner. He was this gangly long whiteout, and he shows up. And he was like a track guy. Chris Collinsworth was one of the fastest guys in the league, I swear to a guy when he played. He must be a track guy. I have to go look it up. He was so fast. And his career was only seven or eight years with Cincinnati, all was Cincinnati, got to a Super Bowl.

And then all of a sudden, boom, he was doing, you know, he's one of those guys that worked his way out. I mean, that guy worked every assignment. I think he did. He was like a third guy in a booth and a two guy in a booth and on the number three team, number two team, and then boom, last 15 years, he's been a total rock star. And pro football focus is great. Check it out. His podcast, pro football focus.

They're both great. Check engine light comes on. Don't freak out. Go to carsheel.com. That's what they do. A deductible may apply. Warranties when your warranty runs out. We're off tomorrow, but we are back Friday.

So tomorrow, Joy and I, she'll be doing yoga. I will be, my daughter's in town, so I'll be hanging out with her. I'm going to go big lunch and do stuff and naps and stuff. It'll be a big day. Big day. So thanks to everybody for, Joining us, want to thank Nick Wright, Joel Clatt, Tristan Thompson, Gerald McCoy, and Chris Collinsworth. Nice job by Dave, our guest worker today.

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