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All right, we're getting all fired out.
What time is Brady Quinn?
Is he going to be around the corner for us?
Is he ready here?
11.30.
Okay.
I'm all fired up.
I still can't get over if you're an NBA GM.
You're taking Wembe who's had some.
There have been some...
Come on.
Well, no, I mean, but he's had some physical concerns over.
Yokic.
Yokic got 3% of the future of the NBA.
Well, probably because he's, you know, a little older,
and we don't know how he's going to age into his 30s with that body.
I mean, that's like a contract Mahomes dad, bud.
Dude, if you can shoot and pass, you're going to age well.
It's when you're hyper athletic.
You don't age well.
Yokic could play until he was 50.
He's going to score points.
He's going to get buckets.
And look at his body.
I don't think it's going to break down.
He's like a refrigerator with a jumper.
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I don't know how to discuss this, Colin.
There's some sort of Cold War brewing, perhaps,
between your guys, Pete Carroll and Chip Kelly.
You may need to moderate.
Yesterday, Pete Carroll was taking some shots at the offense.
And Chip Kelly's now responding, Colin.
Take a listen.
I mean, that's what our gameplay is.
Every game.
When you get into the second half, that skews.
But, you know, we had 25 attempts last week in the game.
There was real balance in the first half of the football game
when it was a close game.
think it gets out of hand.
So when you look at some other numbers,
I think we had 25 rushing attempts and 36 passing attempts at the end of the day.
But in the first half, it was really even.
These guys are friends.
I don't like this kind of Pete Carroll,
not throwing him under the bus, but the comments, we need to run the football.
Well, Pete's got to get his defense right.
It wasn't good in Seattle at the end.
He laughed.
It got better immediately with the new guy.
Antonio Pierce's defense, statistically, was better last year than this year.
Pete's got to worry about his defense.
That was the issue in Seattle.
My rule is always follow the coach's side of the ball.
When Mike McDonald got the Seahawks job, that defense got better, fast.
The offense with Gino, then they got Sam Darnold.
Now the offense is good.
So don't worry, the Raiders with Chip Kelly, they're going to run the ball this week against Tennessee.
but the issue is that you should hold Tennessee to 13 points or less.
They can't move the ball.
Well, they also, you lose Colton Miller, the left tackle.
That's a big blow to the offense.
That hurts Ashton Genties game.
But I do want to ask, I was thinking about this.
So Pete Carroll's struggling badly.
He's in his 70s.
Bill Belichick went to college struggling badly.
Obviously for different reasons.
Well, nobody's in their prime at 70.
I know.
I'm not saying the game's passed them by.
But I'm a little surprised at how bad the Raiders have been.
I'm really surprised how bad UNC's been.
Is there something to the agent, coach, maybe?
Well, I think all of us are probably.
I mean, I do think people are in their prime longer than they used to be.
Yeah.
But I do think once you get into your mid-60s, it's more of a challenge.
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Take your omega-3s and your NAD and your magnesium.
I mean, I think you have to really watch yourself once six is the first number.
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Your diet matters more.
I don't think, I mean, we have presidents in the first number seven,
so I think football coaches are fun.
Let's move on to Jack Prescott.
You know, I think the MVP discussion is a little goofy this early in the season,
but it's undeniable that DAC would be in that discussion with Baker Mayfield and Company.
Anyways, here's what Dak's got to say about how much longer he has left in the tank.
If I can get to 40 playing in the standard that I want, yeah, that'd be awesome.
But to answer your question, yeah, it's definitely changed.
I can see it more realistic now.
And I think as much as anything, just the fun and the piece that this game still gives me 10 years in is going to be hard.
I don't think, I mean, you can't supplement it.
So as long as I can do this at a level that I'm proud and happy with, I'll keep trying.
Best he's ever played, and he's having to carry this team because I don't have a number one wide receiver.
I think in the offensive lines missed starters.
I think Dax's playing as well as he's ever played.
best spoken quarterbacks in the league?
He's just always been...
He's really smart.
Well, he's always been smart.
He's always been smart.
His issue's always been.
Does he throw a great ball?
Not really.
But, I mean, day one in the league...
Kailor Murray throws a great ball.
His first year in the league, my takeaway was,
that's the best quarterback at the podium,
including Tom Brady I've ever heard.
I've always thought Dax, EQ IQ.
I mean, it's not...
I mean, Dan Mullen was his college coach
and acknowledged on our...
our show. We didn't love
always the way he threw. We just loved the human.
So, no, Dak's
the definition of what leadership looks like.
And that's with all the nonsense going on
in that organization. The owner flicking off
fans with the middle finger. That was brutal.
It's just nonsense everywhere and he seems very cool
and calm. Yes.
I don't know. Maybe I need to try that just to chill out a little bit.
I like Dak Prescott. Final story, Colin.
Boy, this Eagles offense
last night was a struggle bus. And then they
did this. In what felt like a
middle finger, seriously, they ran the
push push four times in a row.
So bad. They basically said, screw up. We're doing this.
We'll see what you got to do.
Micah Parsons weighed in online with a tweet.
This is not football.
And then you see some, let's just say,
folks who follow the NFL with large social media accounts also saying,
Trish push, four plays in a row.
It's clear, Colin.
A lot of people want this play out of the league.
It's very clear.
I think it's going to lose the next vote.
Siriani doesn't seem to care.
Maybe he knows, hey, the window's closing.
Screw it.
A lot of it's momentum.
You know, if somebody got hurt here.
Somebody, yeah.
I mean, they were jumping off sides.
I think one of the guards did.
I'll say this.
They're run blocking on the tourist push, great.
But they're run blocking regularly?
It's not.
Sequin has no room to operate.
He had one big first half run and one, I think, big third quarter run.
That's it.
Otherwise, it's three yards on a cloud of dust.
Yeah.
The interior line has not been that great.
Now, the past blocking's good.
The run blocking just isn't there.
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He's one of the voices of college football at Fox.
It's great to have him on.
Brady Quinn is joining us.
He'll be at that Ohio State Illinois game
where USC didn't exactly light the world up.
So that was pretty disappointing.
We'll get to USC Michigan in a bit.
Listen, Ohio State, I've always felt Brady.
It's the SEC program up north.
But that's when I felt the SEC was better than the Big Ten.
I don't.
I think Indiana is the equal of Ole Miss.
I think, I mean, you live in the Midwest.
I think times have changed.
I was watching Dave Portnoy this morning on social,
and he did all these matchups, and I didn't disagree with them.
It does look different, Brady.
when I watch Big Ten games, five years ago it looked different.
I think Ohio State's the best team in the country, and I'm not sure Oregon's not second.
How's that land for you?
That's about right.
I mean, I think you've got to throw into Miami into the conversation right now.
I don't know that doesn't play into the Big Ten SEC debate when it's all said and done,
but the reality is the last two national champions were Big Ten teams.
You go back and look at the teams that are playing for it, even the semifinals last year,
Penn State, Notre Dame that is not in the Obviously of the Big Ten, but still a Midwest
team, you're seeing really a lot of these Big Ten teams, Midwest teams, have caught up. And it's
important for Big Ten specifically because they're getting more money in for NIL. You know, they're just
schools with a little bit more money to be able to pass around. And when you think about the transfer
port, when you think about how you construct a roster, that plays a huge role. And so before NIL
really became legalized for a lot of these players, I think the SEC was able to dominate. And now
players are willing to go wherever they can to get an opportunity to play with a national
championship but also, you know, maximize their market ability and maximize their ability to make as
much as they can. So they're willing to leave the warm confines of the south to be able to go up to the
north and be able to take over on some of those teams to go win national championships. So again,
I think we're seeing that passing of the torch right now. Still a lot of football left to be
played. We'll see how it all plays out. But I don't think there's any doubt about it.
Ohio State, Oregon look to be two of the best, if not the two best teams in the country.
So when the West Coast teams joined the Big Ten,
my take was Oregon and Washington already playing cruddy weather all the time.
It won't matter.
The flights are three and four hours.
They're not eight.
You're not playing in Beijing.
It's fine.
But USC has been different, Brady.
They haven't looked physical.
They looked like a warm weather team.
They got pushed around last week by Illinois.
And I said yesterday, this Michigan game, you got Notre Dame coming up.
You're not beating Notre Dame there with that quarterback.
back play and that coach, you're not beating Oregon and Outson.
This is a defining moment that you have pivoted to Big Tenfold.
I think it's that big of a game for USC.
I don't think it's that big for Michigan.
I mean, how is your feeling going into this game in L.A.?
More curiosity than anything else.
I mean, very similar to Illinois, who you talked about a little bit ago,
disappointed you when they knocked off your southern Cal Trojans,
but they responded after a really tough loss to Indiana.
I mean, you're watching that tape going, how can this be the same team?
The way Brett Beulham was able to get Illinois to rally and respond to that,
it's going to be very similar to Lincoln Riley.
He's got to find a way to get his team to rally stay in this thing,
realize that it's just one loss.
It doesn't define your season or you can't let it define your season.
So their physicality will be challenged once again by Michigan because, yes,
the passing attack has improved.
Bryce Underwood probably had his best passing game this past week versus Wisconsin,
but different challenge.
And then past defense for Michigan is going to be challenged big time with Mackay Lemon,
Jacobi Lane, all the playmakers that USC has on the outside,
as talented quarterback as Jade Maiava is.
So we know that they can match up in that respect.
The question is, if Michigan starts to play bully ball, very similar to the way Illinois was able to run against them,
are they going to be able to get off the field?
Are they going to be able to get stops?
Because the Illinois USC game was not as close as the score predicted.
There's two fumbles that were going into the end zone,
one of which never should have been overturned or never should be called in the first place.
He was already down.
So when you look at this matchup, it's really a challenge to USC to see how they can respond physically more than anything else.
And it's going to speak volumes about where this program's at it.
And the tough thing for them is they got to play Michigan.
Then you go on the road to play Notre Dame, another physical team.
They're going through a gauntlet this season of physical out.
They've got to play Nebraska at some point too.
All those matchups, it's going to be whether or not they can not only survive and then meet that
physicality but sustain it throughout the rest of the season. So before I get to your Ohio State game,
Notre Dame plays NC State, then they play SC. So it's one of those weird games where your big
rivals the following week. C.J. Carr. It's a trap game. Trap game is probably fair to say.
Yeah, yeah. CJ Carr is playing out of his mind. Is he a freshman? I think he's a freshman,
isn't he? Is C.J. shirt freshman. Yeah. It's about, I mean, the kid can play. So I look at Dante Moore
and CJ Carr. And we came into the year
with all these big name quarterbacks. And I'm like, no,
those are the two best quarterbacks.
Talk a little bit about CJ
and talk a little bit about Dante,
because I don't think it's close.
From what I've watched this season,
those guys, that's Sunday football.
I mean, it's way too early for CJ.
But those guys look special.
What do you see?
Well, let me first say this. I'd throw Fernando
Mendoza at Indiana into that conversation,
too. He's been phenomenal this year. And also
Carson Beck, he's responded well so far.
I would say those four are playing the best quarterback and Julian San as well as that's number five of anyone in the country right now.
But specifically CJ, I mean, look, his grandfather was Lloyd Carr.
We all know that as Pops played as well.
You can just tell the way he plays the game.
He's been brought up to be able to read defenses, understand what offensive coordinators are trying to execute on any given play.
He's able to manipulate the defense with his eyes.
He does things that are just so far beyond where he's at in his playing career at Notre Dame.
It gives you the sense that you feel like he's almost NFL ready because of how he plays the game.
He's ridiculously accurate with the football at all three levels in the field.
And he can move around.
He can create.
He can make something out of nothing.
So this young man to me, and I've said this before, I said it when he signed,
I think he's going to be the greatest quarterback in Notre Dame history.
Like that's how special he is when you watch him play the game.
It feels like everything's playing so slow for him.
And very similar to that, Dante Moore, who was a big Notre Dame recruiter,
ended up going to UCLA, obviously found his way to Oregon.
Same thing.
I mean, these young men, Colin, they nowadays come in so prepared mechanically.
There's no flaws in their throwing motion.
They're accurate as all get out.
They understand what offensive coordinators are asking from them
and do these different concepts, how they're trying to attack a defense.
And you just saw on a big stage versus Penn State, how he handled in that clutch moment.
So Dante Moore is draft eligible.
He is the guy that if I was a team looking at this quarterback class,
would have up there as one of my top quarterbacks that I'm evaluating, potentially taking number one
overall. So big game for him this week, obviously, versus IU. He's got a lot more to display, I think,
but I think the world of Dante Moore, too. He's very poised. Another wise young man when you talk to him,
he just feels ready for the moment. Nothing's ever too big for him. So you have Ohio State, Illinois.
I got to give Ryan Day credit. When people beat up on Ryan Day, my take is, well, he's losing
to Harbaugh's Wolverines and Georgia. Let's slow down.
But I think it takes some security to go, I'm going to go to the NFL and get Chip Kelly.
Now, they're friends, I know that.
But then he does it again with Matt Patricia.
And last year, the Buckeyes were kind of about their offense.
This year, they're kind of about their defense.
And I got to tell you, when I watch that defense, how much of it, Brady, is the scheme, Patricia,
because I think Chip Kelly, by the end of that year, they had good players.
I mean, Abuka is obviously ridiculous.
But when you watch Ohio State's defense, they shut Washington down.
Is it the talent? Is it the players? Is it Matt Patricia?
What does the film tell Brady Quinn?
I think it's the combination of all of it.
I mean, I think, first off, where you give Ryan Day a lot of credit is the fact that he lost Jim Kelly.
You know, he lost Jim Noles.
And so you're finding new people to come into those spots.
And for Matt Patricia to come down to the college level, there's a bit of a learning curve there,
but also eight new starters on defense.
So when you take that into account, this group is playing as good if not better than
last year's defense. And that's really saying something for a lot of guys who are jumping into
roles like Caden Curry who's starting this year is one of the best edge rushers in the country
right now. Orville Reese, Sunny Styles, these guys have really, you know, kind of popped on,
burst on the scene as two of the best defenders at the lineback position you were going to see
in all of college football. So it's part of obviously the players and the skill they have.
It's part of the development. I also think it's part of the scheme because it's a very different
scheme than what we saw, you know, last year from Jim Knowles, who typically had kind of come from
more that 335 and Matt Patricia is so multiple with that NFL approach where you're getting
a variety of fronts or variety of coverages, a variety of looks that you have to deal with.
And throughout the course of the game, he's not allowing you to get a beat on things.
So defensively speaking, they have been absolutely lights out.
And it's in part because that's how, and obviously their coaching staff, but also on the
flip side, looking at their offense, it's because of how scary they are on that side.
I mean, teams are so afraid to give this offense opportunities with the football.
go back to the Washington game.
We had seven drives in the entire game.
You're averaging usually 12.
So people are almost running formatted offenses to start games
just to keep Julian Sand and Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate off of the field.
Now, I know Ohio State doesn't run at a breakneck pace either on offense,
but still, it goes to show you the respect that I think a lot of teams have
and what they think of this team as a whole.
But a lot of credit goes to Ryan Day and giving Brian Harlein that opportunity,
who's done a tremendous job with the offense,
bringing Julian Sand along.
And really, you know, finding a freshman in Bo Jackson,
it's really emerged as probably their best running back at this point, too,
for a team that I think it's going to be in the national championship hunt once again.
You know, that's a lot of credit you're giving a young man to be able to take over at that specific position
to be able to carry the rock for you.
But that's how this Ohio State team has emerged this year after all the town that's gone on the NFL.
Big Noon kickoff, 10 Eastern Ohio State in Champaign.
I was there last week.
The outcome was not my favorite outcome.
come of all time.
A lot of us loved it, actually, Colin.
A lot of us here in the Midwest were not surprised by it.
I loved it.
I bet.
No tears.
Great seeing you, man.
You're just such a nice job.
Thanks, Brady.
Thanks, Carl.
Yeah, great stuff from him.
Ohio State.
You can just see on the highlights we show that that defense is.
I mean, you know, it's different.
In the NFL, I was telling the president of Indiana University was here today,
a football fan.
And we were talking,
and it's like,
in the NFL,
the worst team in the first,
you still have great players.
Like,
it's a lot of it's just like,
who's your quarterback.
But in college,
there's a gap between,
okay,
that's Georgia and that's,
you know,
Georgia Tech or some,
and Georgia Tech's fine.
But when you watch Ohio State play
the last couple years,
just turn the sound down.
The offense last year,
the defense this year,
it doesn't look like
99.9% of,
the rest of college football.
That offense at the end of last year,
it was just the running backs, the wide receivers.
And it was just like, oh, everybody was a Sunday player.
That defense right now is stacked and fast.
The Ohio State's defense is fast.
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, new?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called,
Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers was...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
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J. Mack had a good weekend. He and I do not
We just look at different games.
I took some dogs who often have fleas.
I took like the Raiders, I'm betting on it, Miami.
I think Miami at home, I'm surprised getting four and a half.
Do you even know if Brock Bowers is playing, by the way, for the Raiders?
Like, I mean...
They're running the ball.
Miami's crazy.
I mean, going against Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert?
I'm not...
It's not who's going to win.
It's picking the winner.
I pick the Chargers to win.
It's who's going to cover.
I mean, you know some of these guys off a loss.
You think Jim Harbaugh, he's tearing off the paint in that locker room.
All right.
After that loss, man.
Let's do it.
Tomorrow's headlines today.
We predict the outcome, the headlines.
Let's start week six.
Let's start with second-year quarterback Drake May.
Well, this is your guy.
You called the Patriots your team of destiny this summer.
I was a little dubious.
However, they look good.
The headline for Patriots Saints will be Boston Tea Party Animal.
Come on.
Paints swap bourbon for brew for bourbon.
I like the Patriots here big time.
Colin, this is one of these, like, I know everybody wants to fade New England, right?
Hey, they just beat Buffalo on Sunday Night Football.
They're not that good.
They're going to fade against the Saints.
I think this Christian Gonzalez addition to the defense, he's so good.
I looked up the numbers, Colin.
He's played since in the last two weeks.
They've had seven targets at Gonzalez.
He's allowed three catches.
That's it.
He's a lockdown corner.
So you put him on Olave, right?
And he follows him around.
where's Spencer Rattler going?
The tight end issues murky.
I think Vrable locks up Spencer Rattler in that Saints' offense.
And if the Saints don't get five turnovers last week, they lose to the Giants.
Remember, they were down 14-6 early, Colin.
I think the Patriots win here cover three, three and a half.
I like them kind of big.
All right.
Tomorrow's headlines today.
So this one I stayed away from because I think Stafansky's good.
I think the Steelers are a little overvalued.
I don't love the number.
Browned at the Steelers.
I know what you're cooking on this one.
You know, you're supposed to take Mike Tomlin when he's an underdog.
That's right.
Ra, ra guy gets everybody fired up.
They're big favorites here, but for a reason, the headline for Steelers, Browns will be.
Small price to pay.
Gabriel can't reach first win.
I know you like bagging on small quarterbacks.
This is a tough spot, Colin.
Unbelievable stat for you.
Mike Tomlin at home.
against first year quarterbacks, 16 and 1.
He dominates these young guys, throws all these wrinkles at him.
And oh, by the way, Tomlin's off a buy.
Any idea how he's done off a bye, Colin?
Mike Tomlin, last five years off a buy, five and O, straight up against the spread.
You go back eight years, eight and O.
Essentially, he's Andy Reid off a by.
The guy uses his week to game plan.
He's not like Belichick vacationing in the cod with his young girlfriend.
Tomlin's locked in.
I think Dylan Gabriel's in a real tough spot here.
And I mentioned the spot because they played in London,
had to travel back to the U.S., then have to travel.
It's not a big trip, though, to Pittsburgh.
Steelers are rested off a by, sleeping in their own beds.
There's a reason this number's creeping up.
I like Pittsburgh here.
And if Aaron Rogers doesn't deliver, I'll be very shocked.
I think Steelers win this by double digits.
Tomorrow's headlines today.
Cardinals at the Colts.
Well, Colts are better and going to win the game by how much.
Yeah, we have some breaking news.
Kylo-Marie is at practice today.
He missed the last two days with a foot injury.
I personally don't think.
it matters. The headline for Cardinals Colts will be the hoof, the hoof, the hoof is on fire.
Give me the Colts here, Colin, big time. I mean, listen, I'm done doubting Daniel Jones and Stuyken, right?
I mean, we've seen enough data. They're good. They went toe to toe with the Rams. I mean,
in a spot last week against the Raiders where you're like, oh, maybe it's a win, they beat them 40 to
six. And some of the numbers for Arizona, Colin, they've lost three straight by three or fewer points.
At some point, how much does that creep into your head?
Damn, we keep losing these close games.
They led by 14 in the fourth quarter against Tennessee.
They had San Francisco beat in the Bay.
So you know who else led by 14 last week and blew it was the Philadelphia Eagles?
What happened to them the following week?
They didn't look from the jump.
They just looked kind of defeated and slow.
I worry this could be another blowout.
The line currently is seven.
This Colts team, for real.
Jonathan Taylor, by the way, leads the NFL in rushing.
Cardinals have not given up a hundred-yard rusher.
If Taylor breaks a couple off, what do we got here?
I think Gannon's in some trouble.
I know it's a big favorite, and I'm going three favorites to start here, but give me the Colts.
Now, these big favorites have not done well.
They have not.
That's also true.
Rams over the Niners.
Bills crushing the Saints.
Tomorrow's headlines today.
Bucks hosting the Niners.
Half of San Francisco's not playing.
I'm not touching this thing.
you're going to go all in on.
So sometimes, you know, you end up fading a team week after week thinking,
oh, they're not good at smoking mirrors.
That's me with Tampa Bay.
The headline for San Francisco, Tampa Bay will be counting kylories.
Shanahan closes down bakery.
I got the Niners here beating Baker Mayfield.
Wow.
I know it's risky.
It's dumb.
It's probably going to be Mack Jones.
My big concern for San Fran is this defense without both.
Colin, two weeks, toothless, not getting to the quarterback, can't do anything.
I mean, they openly were talking this week.
Yeah, we're probably going to look at adding a defensive edge rusher.
They need one.
And if Baker's got time in the pocket, it could be a problem for the Niners.
But why would you doubt Shanahan at this point, right?
We both did last week.
We got kicked in the teeth.
I mean, this feels to me like a big Christian McCaffrey game.
The back end of the Tampa defense, not great.
Sam Darnold, didn't you say he was like perfect last week?
He was like, it missed like four incompletions or something.
Listen, Mac Jones can deliver.
I'll take the three with the Niners.
Lions at the Chiefs.
Finally, let's wrap it up week six.
Tomorrow's headlines today.
Listen, I thought Kansas City played great against Jacksonville.
Patrick Mahomes did not see Devin Lloyd and paid a price.
But I think Kansas City's, I stayed away from this game because I think Kansas City,
Even though I have Detroit as the number one team in the league, it's at Arrowhead.
I think Kansas said he's going to win.
So we talked about it earlier in the weekend.
I was like, I think Lions, right?
I don't know, Colin, you start drilling down on that Detroit resume.
They hit number one in the herd hierarchy.
The headline for Chiefs Lions will be.
Boxers or Chiefs, KC stops the Lion's streak.
I'm going with the Chiefs.
I don't like them this season, but I like them here.
Colin, I looked at all these results since that lost to the Packers in the opener.
They crushed the bears at home, Detroit did.
That's nothing special, 50 points, whatever.
They also crushed Jake Browning, who's now been benched for Joe Flacco.
They also crushed Cleveland in Detroit.
Cleveland, not good on the road.
And that went over Baltimore, which looked amazing.
All of a sudden, Baltimore can't stop anybody because of the injuries.
So maybe the lion's resume is not as great as we think it is.
And, oh, by the way, two starting defensive backs,
Terriott Arnold and Kirby Joseph, both not practicing this week.
now you're going up against Worthy
Tyquan Thornton
I think the chiefs are the side here
Colin you are looking at me like
you don't like this pick
well I think the chiefs are the side
I think and I actually
I mean listen the Steelers are the side
with the Browns I've just watched three or
four of these divisional games
that look like locks
go the other way
I mean not just not covering
losing Rams getting thrown around
Eagles losing badly
I think
of all your picks. I think Brown's at the Steelers.
I think Patriots will beat the Saints.
I don't think the Saints are going to score much.
I just think it's very low scoring.
Match up to watch in Chiefs Lions is Hutchison,
who's a superstar going up against
the rookie Josh Simmons, who all,
remember the Ohio State kid? We heard it always so good.
He got hurt and so he dropped into the
bottom of the first round. Right. So this
will be the big test for him against
Hutchison. If he can show out,
that's a great sign. And oh, by the way,
Rishie Rice coming back soon.
if the Chiefs win this one, they're probably going to the playoffs.
If they lose, I think that's your show opener on Monday.
Kansas City, two and four.
Was surprised you didn't take Seattle.
The injuries on defense.
I can't.
I mean, I can't do it.
And I love me some Jaguars this year.
I have a futures bet on them to win the division.
Some kind of rooting for them every week.
All right.
So Philadelphia lost last night, obviously got blown out.
I thought the offense was fine.
Greg Kossel has been critical of Jalen Hertz saying basically he didn't throw the ball to the middle of field,
but he didn't see it, and that's okay.
Tua, same thing, Russell Wilson.
They're good deep ball throwers because they need to be.
But we had Jordan Palmer, who's always been kind of the quarterback whisper of our show,
talking about why Jalen Hertz is struggling.
You keep replacing coordinators every year, and because,
whether you're doing that because your team is struggling or because your team's in the Super Bowl,
every year. Either way, you start shifting coordinators. The media and the fans want to make it
about scheme. I think one of the most underrated thing in sports that I don't see owners do is say,
we've got a great offensive coordinator. Let's just pay him like a head coach. If it's going to
cost us a chance to win a Super Bowl and make a run, let's just drastically overpay him so we don't
lose him. Yeah, and listen, Jared Goff has been good with seven different coordinators. So I think
losing coordinators is a reality.
I don't think he's wrong at all.
I think there's
for a lot of
quarterbacks in this league, there's a way
they have to play.
And I think Jaylen's one of those guys. I think Josh Allen and Joe
Burrow and, you know, Mahomes,
they can play any way they want. They just, they
I think Hertz is kind of
the classic. There's a way
he has to play. Also,
most quarterbacks are noticeably better if you give them a strong run game.
I mean, you watched Jackson Dart last night with Cam Scataboo.
It's amazing, isn't it?
Looks like he's been in the league for a while.
You give, you know, Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson, the Ravens issues were mostly on defense.
Patrick Mahomes, their offense in Kansas City this year doesn't have as much rhythm as usual.
The reason it doesn't, they don't run the ball.
even Mahomes, when you run the ball, you have a certain
kind of a foundation of the house.
We can run the ball, we can get first downs,
eagles aren't running the ball particularly well,
push is effective, but for like two yards.
So I think when Jalen doesn't have a consistent run game,
last year he did he was great.
This year, I mean, watch Cam Scadaboo last night
with a really effective run game.
Changes everything.
I mean, by the way, Sam Darnold,
oh, Seattle runs the ball really effectively.
That's a lot of guys,
You know, Josh Allen was great without James Cook.
I think that's kind of rare.
I mean, part of the reason DAC is flourishing this year is Javante Williams has actually kind of emerged as the Denver guy.
Pre-injury.
You're like, oh, that's a B-plus A-minus running back.
So I think Jalen Hertz is finding out what it's like to quarterback without an effective run game.
There's a reason Philly went out and got Sequin Barclay.
They had a bunch of guys.
They wanted the guy.
And last year it delivered.
This year it's not.
And he's regressed.
He's pulled back.
All right.
Great college football Saturday.
Amazing baseball.
Playoff action all weekend long.
First thing's first around the corner.
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