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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Hurd. Fox Sports Radio. You know, one of the things I love about the NFL, Joy and I were talking about, there's a lot of young NBA coaches I really like, they're very clever. There's a lot of young general managers in the NFL, and these guys will make deals. You know, the old days, the old NFL general managers, here's your roster, your standing pat. The NFL's become very NBA-like.

You got a lot of young, early 40-year-old GMs. I talked and texted many of them. They're dealmakers. And Brett V. fourth years, only 42 years old, and he's frankly, he's got his Hall of Fame coach, he's got a Hall of Fame quarterback talent. If you can get that, you just make everything else work. And he is joining us, 42 years old, which is really young to own the world.

And he is joining us via the Coward Global Satellite Network. So let's go back to the very, I want you to tell me a story. So you're out there and you get a piece of video, and there's this Patrick Mahomes kid on it in college. and you know it's the big 12 it's probably 58 to 57 like all those big 12 games give me the moment you first saw him Brett and your first reaction

to Patrick Mahomes as a college prospect well really Colin it was it was an SEC game I remember watching the bowl game I guess in sophomore year where they played LSU and you know that the kid was certainly undermatched and he

single-handedly kept his Texas Texas team in the game and And, you know, the kid just went up and down the field and made plays, and we're seeing him do the same thing on the NFL level. So then all of a sudden you start comprising scouts. And then you've got to go to Andy Reid, who knows a thing or two about football. You've been with him since Philadelphia. And take me to your first conversation to Andy Reid about this kid named Patrick Mahomes from the Big 12.

Well, as it were to happen, you know, when I was watching Pat over the spring, Andy just happened to walk by the office, and we were kind of joking around. And I said, Coach, I think this could be the next quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs. And, you know, he kind of glanced and caught a couple plays and stored it in the back of his mind. But I remember later down the road in the fall in September, October, just started sending him clips and clips of the kid. And to the point where, you know, coach has dialed in. He's locked in for this week's opponent where he actually texted me to just stop texting him and just leave him alone for a while. I'll be time for that.

And then I call another funny story, too, is once the college season had ended, coach shot me a text. Now, remember, this goes back to the spring and shooting a little video text during the fall. Coach calls me in his office, and he had a copy, a printout, and it was actually like a McShay and Kuiper mock draft. And he showed it to me. He said, you know, this kid, you've been talking and showing me videos on. He said, I just got this mock draft, and here we are late December, early January.

He said, the kid's not even on the list. Are you sure you're watching the right kids? So we joked about it, and it certainly didn't take long for other teams to jump on board and fall in love with the kid, too, and we were just happy we made it work. So you get him in. It's very lucky where you've got one of the great offensive minds in football, Annie Reid. You also have, you're fortunate. You have Alex Smith, who's a great mentor, a really good human being.

So it's the perfect scenario. You don't have to play him much for the first year. and then you play him and he blows everybody away. So go to the moment that you're sitting there and you're thinking to yourself, okay, I may have a $300 million quarterback in my hands. When did you decide? Let's just wrap this up. I'm not wasting any time.

I got a lottery ticket. He's a good human being. He's a good player. Was there a moment of practice a game when you just said, I just want to get this contract done now? Well, I mean, every time you draft a quarterback, that's certainly your goal and intent to extend them to a long-term deal. But, you know, Patrick is he's special.

He's unique. And really, as you mentioned, we just had the perfect setup with a fabulous coaching staff. And then Alex Smith, as you mentioned, just a fantastic mentor. But if you go back his rookie year, there's a couple of throws at training camp where, you know, myself, the coaches, our personnel staff, we just kind of looked at each other in almost disbelief. And a couple of the throws, I think, have made it to the internet call him. But I'll have to send you a few. This is this one red zone throw, corner of the end zone where I still, to this day,

don't know how he made the throw. And you just keep in mind, these are the best players in the world he's doing it against, right? And this is him going against the one at the time, the three offense versus the one defense. And he's just, you know, making life very difficult for our starters and just doing it with such ease that you knew right away it was only a matter of time until, you know, he showed the whole league and the whole country what he can do. And again, as soon as the window opened up to do his extension, we were obviously anxious to get it done.

So now, though, and you pay Chris Jones, who we've had on the show, he's a great player. So you got Mahomes, you got Chris Jones. Do you feel it does put a little pressure on you, Brett, now? You've got to get some of these draft picks right. Not everybody can be expensive. Do you sense, hey, we've got to, have you told your scouting staff, we've got to burrow down on this stuff because we've got to hit some fourth round picks now? Sure, sure.

And I think not only just the draft picks, just anytime you have the, opportunity to acquire talent on the on on the on the waiver wire or any transactional period i mean we have to be be good i think you know we saw that last year and we had some defensive ends go down and some offensive linemen go down but not just the draft but you know the you know your practice squad has to be on point um your your your emergency board during the season when guys get injured has to be on point because uh you know you certainly just uh can't go out there and and and have big free a spending now because of the uh the talent that that we have on our roster, but certainly the draft is the main area to secure some cheaper talent,

but also, again, practice squads, waiver wires, claims. I mean, we have to be on point all those things. You know, Andy Reid is, I've said this before, Belichick is a legendary coach. His coaching tree is not as good as Andy Reid's. And I think some of that is just Andy is the NFL's best teacher. You were with him, I mean, you played in college, then you got on a staff, and then you become a scout, and then you become personnel director, and then you go to Kansas City. What was the first one or two lessons that Andy Reed, as a great mentor, taught you about personnel? Like something that you're like, he saw it through the end of the telescope, others didn't, and it sticks with you today. Well, I don't know if I can just

rattle off something specifically, but just in a general sense, just you're, you know, the working environment and how you can really learn something from everybody. And I remember when I first started working from coach fresh out of college, a little intimidated because here we have a Hall of Fame type coach, one of the best in the game. And when, you know, he asked you to do a certain report or a project, just thinking, I mean, this guy has all the answers. Why is he asking me?

But his understanding that everybody has something different and unique to bring to the table, you can always learn something from someone, whether it be a 20-year offensive coordinator or 20-year GM or, you know, a young intern or first-year. guy. Andy has that ability to understand that everybody brings something different and unique to the table. And I think that helps me in my career as I carry on, knowing that, you know, your ability to grow and adapt and develop in this position is going to come from all different areas, from veterans,

scouts, from veteran coaches, but also young guys, young coaches, young interns, young scouts. You know, there's a guy you drafted. He's kind of a fascinating player. Clyde Edwards, Hallairs are running back for LSU. He's not a burner. I mean, there's a lot of things I look at him and I think, I can't put my arms around why he's so damn effective. But every time I watched him, he turned four into seven and seven and nine yards. So when you first saw him from LSU, I think he's a fascinating player where I could see somebody watching him on film and he wouldn't pop. He wouldn't jump through the film. What makes him special in your opinion?

Well, it is funny. You know, Colin, when we got together prior to the Combine and we had a chance to watch the running back shit, the first thing you do is you see, the measurable. So you see a kid that's 5-7 and change and 200 pounds and, you know, not a blazer, not a 4-3 or 4-4-4 guy. So you're thinking yourself, all right, smaller running back, 45, 4-6, all right, let's just get through the tape and we'll be on to the next guy. And all of a sudden, you put on the tape and the guy is just, he's one of those guys that you can't wait to get to the next game and to the next game. He's got rare vision and rare instincts. And some guys are just born with that call. And you can't really, you know, point to a specific game. And,

or play. It's just his body of work just, again, it's something he was born with. I think we saw that in LaShawn McCoy, where, you know, LaShawn McCoy wasn't a four-three guy and he wasn't 225 pounds, but he just has the ability to understand, you know, where the holes are going to open. And he plays the game in slow motion and anticipates very well, and that's what we saw with Clyde, a guy that just, he's a natural football player, and those guys are hard to find. You know, so you, I think you were a college roommate at Delaware. I see a Delaware blue hen's helmet over your right shoulder and a chiefs on the left with Matt Nagy coach of the bears who I love.

And, you know, we always talk about what matters for quarterbacks. What do you see? So give me something that, like when you look at a quarterback, you talked about measurables. Is there an aspect of quarterback play that when you watch you think is a little underdiscussed or under talked about? Something that matters to you and Andy that a guy like me, a sports talk show host doesn't really talk about a lot, but it matters. Maybe granular.

It may be big for quarterbacks. Well, I just think the ability to ad-lib make plays and really throw off unbalanced platforms. And really that was one of the things that really jumped out with Pat. Everyone knows how strong his arm is. And there's a lot of quarterbacks that have strong arms. But his ability to throw with accuracy off-platform, I mean, shoot the third and 15 play in the Super Bowl there. I mean, he took about a 15-step drop and threw off his back leg. But, you know, I think we're obviously going to gravitate.

to leadership and intelligence and arm strength. But when you really get into it, I mean, the athleticism on the defense of line is very intimidating at this level. And these guys are on you. They're on you quick. And it's very rare to get clean pockets consistently through four quarters. So Pat's ability to throw with accuracy from different platforms is certainly special and unique. And with Andy Reed's creativity and play calling, it's just a special combination.

Well, Andy Reed is probably having just some ribs for lunch. now and he said, you know, did you and Andy Reid ever go out and not talk football? Well, we don't have to go out because we see each other about 20 times a day. You know, I see him more than I do my own family. So he's right down the hall and probably when I get off this Zoom call with Yukon, I'll be down his office and talk on some football. So fortunately, that's something I don't need to worry about. Yeah, 42 years old, Brett Veach, Chiefs GM, congratulations.

Andy speaks highly of you. Thanks so much for making us smarter. And good luck to everybody. And right in the middle of the country. The NFL's next star is right in the middle of the country. And that's why the league is so profoundly popular. And Brett, thanks for coming on the show. Colin, thanks for your time.

Hope you're staying safe and saying. Look forward to seeing you. Hopefully in Tampa this year. Yep. There you go. In Tampa. Chiefs in Tampa. That sounds good to me. Isn't that funny, those stories about Mahomes?

Like, he literally saw tape. And he's like, don't bother with you. I got a game. I got a Chargers game. Stop texting me. Young kid. You're a pest, you young general manager kid.

And that's how it all starts. You see a tape. You watch him in a boy. By the way, the game you watched him in, they got blown out. But he's watching him make plays. I heard the same story about Eli Manning. Years ago, Ernie, of course,

he was watching Eli Manning. And the game he saw Eli and decided he was a first round pick, they got crushed. Ole Miss got crushed. And he was like, Eli was just totally outman. He was driving people. up and down. Everybody thinks all these

GMs want Heisman winners. What general managers want to see from a quarterback is he ain't throwing them much. He doesn't have any protection. Yeah, what are you overcoming? What are you leading? So here people say, well, Mahomes he had a losing record. That's what Matt Ryan

at Boston College was not throwing to any. I talked to a scout about that. He's like, we were watching Matt Ryan throw to guys that weren't even Canadian football league players. And he was throwing darts and tiny windows. Nothing against all these quarterbacks. that play at USC, Alabama, Ohio State. But you watch Justin Fields at Ohio State, dude, he's doing drag routes,

the guy that run four, three against Purdue, boom, out. It's not about eat. The NFL is all about how do you play in discomfort? If you go to Alabama, it's playing in comfort. And so for a guy like, you know, you look at all these quarterback, Big Ben, Miami of Ohio, Aaron Rogers, Cal, North Carolina State, Russell. At one point, North Carolina State had three starting quarterbacks in the NFL. that Glennon, Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson.

Yeah, you're elevating people around you. You're playing from behind. We're playing with two-star recruits. You're not at Clemson playing with, I mean, it's not a knock on Trevor Lawrence, but it's nice when four of your five offensive linemen and your tight end are NFL players. You're just not getting hit very much. It's a reality of it. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win.

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Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, Zion, he plays night against John Morant. He's been on a minute's restriction in the bubble, and he expressed a little frustration with how he's being used by the Pelican so far.

I'm going to say it's very tough, to be honest, because as soon as I start to break that sweat, I look over, and that horn's for me, and I have to come out of the game. Because, you know, I'm a competitor. I want to stay on the court, so when I'm coming out the game, You know, just my competitive side of me is telling me, man, I just want to stay in. So I guess that does affect the fun of a little bit, but not too much. You can tell he's really, really trying to say the right thing in that spot.

Like, he is obviously frustrated, but he's got great self-awareness, which most 20-year-olds don't have. He does. He's played 15 minutes against the jazz and 14 minutes against the Clippers. Again, they face the Grizzlies tonight at 630 Eastern. I want to be careful how I look at this situation because I don't want to be a hypocrite. I do think it's important to listen to medical personnel. I do too.

Especially in times like these. Probably should be listening to doctors and doctors only. You mean the internet? Everybody's not an epidemiologist on the internet? No, as a matter of fact, none of them are. Because the epidemiologists are working on the pandemic, currently not making YouTube videos. It's funny because I go to like some of these websites and everybody's an expert on COVID.

It's amazing. They didn't even go to medical school. literally are no experts on COVID because it's new. And the people who are most qualified to talk about it are the literal only people that you should be listening to. I interviewed a billionaire, a surgeon that owns the LA Times and one of the richest guys in the world about COVID. And he kept saying, well, we don't know quite yet what it is. But yet it's amazing how many people on the internet are experts. The word I would use mostly is embarrassing.

But I do want to say it's important to listen to medical personnel, and especially medical personnel that are working exclusively with Zion Williamson. Yeah, I know. They are smarter. They know more. And while it is incredibly frustrating because we do want to see Zion, I also want Zion to have a long and healthy career. So I'm very conflicted, right?

Because he's so great and he's so electric when he is out there. And like he said, as soon as he starts to hit a stride, as soon as he starts to get that sweat in, they're like, he's out of there. And it's frustrating. But I'm trying to keep an overall perspective on it. I don't think that they are, I don't think they're putting him in a bad situation. Like they all know how valuable Zion is, not only to the league, but of course to the Pelican. Well, if you lose tonight, then you're not a playoff team. Then there's no point

plan in 40 and risking you. Like tonight's the game, you win and then you have an outside shot. But once they lost to the clippers, you do get to a point now where you're like, listen, let's just get, let's just get him healthy 18 minutes. Let's go to the offseat. Right. And as much as we all want to see Zion, we have to also deal with the circumstances that we're still going to have plenty of stars to watch in the playoffs. And again, we have John Moran, who's an incredible player, just to keep it all in perspective. I'm as frustrated as everyone else, but I don't want to, you know, I don't want to be a hypocrite about it.

So Lamar Jackson is the reigning NFL MVP, and he was voted the number one player in the league by his peers, but despite all that personal success, he's still haunted by the two early playoff losses in his career. He said, I think about it a lot. That's where I want to be. That's when everything gets crucial. It's tough. I remember Lagart Blunt DM'd me on Instagram, and he was like, you know,

playoffs is different from regular season. And I'm like, nah, but it is because it's winner go home and I'm tired of going home. I just can't wait to get back in that same spot and perform at a whole other level. Yeah, but playoffs are different. You know, here's the other thing with the playoffs. So in the playoffs, you get behind and coaches get a little tighter. Right, right? Like, it's not just a players.

Yeah, you're approaching the game completely differently than you would a regular season game. Yeah, and so Baltimore got down, then the coaches start, you know, you get a little tighter with a game plan. And there's another thing. In the playoffs a lot of times, some teams are healthy. Some teams say they're healthy, but they have eight guys that are about a hit away. Another team, Tennessee got hot. They were healthy. They were playing with nothing to lose. Their coaches were taking risks. Baltimore came in like, when you come in as a favorite at home, it's a different scenario. It is. And I think that it comes down to situations. Like, are you going to make the right adjustment in the right moment? And like you said, take the risk.

to win that game. You're not doing that. You're sticking to a whole different game player when you're playing regular season games. And he's right. This is what's going to take him to the next level. And nobody has any doubt that he's going to be able to do that. I think that's why for the most part, he's not getting any kind of overwhelming negative pushbacker criticism because he's such a young player. And it's fine to have the struggle early in your career in the playoffs. John Elway went 10 years and couldn't, quote, win the big games. Like, Sometimes it takes a little time A lot of time

And he's not even in the league that long So we can be a little patient with him Over the weekends Tom Brady posted a picture To his Instagram story To show some of his followers What temperature it was in Tampa It was 99 degrees

But people were taking notice of something else Instead fans pointed out That Tom Brady is still using an iPhone 6 It's actually an iPhone 6 plus Which was released six years ago So what is this? What do I have? My wife saw me all the time about this? You have

an iPhone 7? I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is here. She's always like it's way outdated and I'm like... I mean it is an older phone. It's an older version of the iPhone. What are we on now? I have an iPhone 10 I guess or I know I have an 11th. So what is yours do that mine doesn't? I have whatever the newest one

is. Okay, I can call you, you can call me, I can text, I can get apps. What do you, do you don't bake chicken? I mean, what do you do with your phone that I can't? Well, I mean, it has like a better camera, so mine has like the three cameras. cameras. Oh, you got three cameras.

It does others. I mean, no, like it has, like, yeah, it takes better pictures. I mean, it's a better phone, but for what you're using it for, I'm also incredibly impatient, and as soon as the new phone comes out, the old phone doesn't work as well. My picture is fine. Listen, I am not iPhone or phone shaming at all. If you feel comfortable with your phone, that's fine. Whatever, whatever phone it is.

If it, like you said, makes calls and gets text messages. That's really mostly what you're using it for. I did DoorDash yesterday with a friend. Perfect. Yeah, you're good. You're good to go. Today is also Tom Brady's 43rd birthday. Woo, he's old.

And he tweeted, thank you for the birthday wishes. I might treat myself to a new iPhone this year. It's such a pain to get a new phone, though. It's really not that bad. I do feel you. It takes about an hour and, like, the process can be kind of... A hour? To get a phone?

I actually have to go get a new phone because I somehow cracked one of my cameras. My daughter's, I swear to God, my daughter wants a new phone every eight months. I'm like, what is it? But they have, like, depending on who you're with, like, they have. I think I'm a Verizon guy.

They have jump programs where they'll just give you a new phone. A jump program? Yeah, like every time a new phone comes out, that you just go and turn in your old phone and they'll give you a new one. Every time I go to say, I want a new phone, they're like, well, you have to keep yours for a few more years to get blankety blank.

No way. They do. There's a lot of problems. I have a, No, you are straight up making stuff. That's fake news. You are making stuff up. They want you to get a new phone.

Yeah, but there's always a charge or something for it. Yes, things cost money. Hey, if I'm loyal to you for eight years, I get a free phone. I'm sure they probably will give you a free phone at this point. They give you upgrades. Again, keep whatever phone you want. I'm not judging. Whatever works for you.

All right. Joy with the news. It feels like good. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping the herd line news. So you have an 11 or a 10 or 8? I have whatever the newest. Goulet, what do you got back there with your hockey scores?

I have an 11. I don't have an iPhone. I have a galaxy, but I believe it's still. I'm nine, so I'm a little behind. Nine plus. What's a galaxy? Is that a company? Samsung.

I don't know. Am I supposed to know this stuff? Why am I supposed to know this stuff? Who knows this stuff? Well, you knew what a galaxy was. Yes. You're good. You're hooked up.

You have your cell phone stand now so you can do your Instagram lives without dropping it in the fruit bowl. Is this how you just use it? You just use it like the box. You take it out of the box and set it up. There is a little assemble with that. So when you're building your bar card, you can also finish your iPhone stand.

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Others say it's unleashing human between. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.

You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from. from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.

The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking.

What the hell does George Bush got to do a little kill? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s.

To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so you all know. But just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed. correct. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.

I'm talking. Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it, and we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch.

Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person.

Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free, Our Heart Radio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. NBA is back. We do this game from time to time in all sports. Down or sideways? Is a team trending up? Are they trending down? Or are they mostly what we expect? Hit it Goulet, Joy, fire away.

Milwaukee Bucks trending up, down, or sideways? Down. They were up eight with three minutes to go and were outscored 16 to 4. Chris Middleton. I don't want to hear about what a night Chris Middleton had. He was bad late, one for six in the fourth quarter. And what's interesting about Milwaukee, last seven games, they're two and four. This is supposed to be the favorite to win the championship. Not great late. Outplayed late. Couldn't depend on Chris Middleton late.

Trending down. The Toronto Raptors up down or sideways. Trending up. They're a tough out. Nick Nurse may be the best coach in the NBA. Kyle Lowry played great. They got a bunch of veterans and two young guys, Seacum, Fred Van Fleet that can play.

LeBron, by the way, is 0 and 4 as a Laker against Toronto. They give LeBron Fits. They have a better record through 65 games this year than last season when they had Kauai. That is a team that is all in on the same mission. That's a well-coached team. Like we lost our star. We have to be better together as a unit. They're better this year than last.

Wow. How about the Boston Celtics up down or sideways? Sideways. So Kemba Walker is on a minute's restrictions because he's coming off a knee injury. So a really valuable piece for them. So they become more dependent on Jason Tatum, and Tatum had one great game. He had 34 against the Blazers and then stunk against Milwaukee. They don't match up with Milwaukee terribly well.

They struggle with Janus. Middleton's good against Boston. They don't match up. Toronto matches up really well. Their length with Janus. Celtics just don't feel big enough to stop it. The Lakers up down or sideways. Down.

Danny Green, 20 minutes, zero. points. You know, Avery Bradley's not here. They could use him. They don't defend the wing particularly well. And by the way, Anthony Davis in the bubble, two fourth quarters, two points against the Clippers in the fourth, three points against the Raptors. One made field goal by Anthony Davis, who you keep telling me is one of the top three players in the league. Sorry, you can't do it. You got to give me more dog than that. I'll take a bad opening half. You've got to be good late. The Clippers, I've done a sideway. I think it's sideways.

I think they're one-in-one of the bubble. They don't have Montres Harold and Lou Williams, and those are two of their top six players. Let's be realistic. They're shooting more three-pointers. So I think they're absurdly deep. And again, what are they playing for? They don't need home court against the Lakers.

Yeah, these are warm-up games for them. You know, the Lakers are them in the same building if they weren't, if it wasn't a bubble. So for them, it doesn't matter. Home court's irrelevant. When you're as good as them, it's like, can we be healthy? And our chemistry beyond, the rest of it's all commentary. Doesn't matter.

How about your new favorite team of Houston Rockets? Big, big trend up. Westbrook has been sensational. They've played defense. They have been efficient late in games. Covington Harden, Westbrook. And I'll say this, eight of the nine best rocket players can shoot a three. Westbrook's the one that does it.

And he only, I think he only shot three yesterday. So I don't have any fourth quarter comebacks in both games. That's my thing about Westbrook. I just don't trust him late. He'd been great. I've been great late. That Dallas game, Dallas was the better team for all but the final 30 seconds of regulation. And then they came back in overtime in Houston one.

I mean, Dallas really controlled most of that game. The New Orleans Pelicans up down or sideways. Down. Zion minute restrictions. There are a mess with turnovers. They've had 40 turnovers in two games. They're a mess. Jazz, it was a game in which they controlled the jazz for three quarters.

And then against the clippers, it was awful. I didn't see a ton of that. I just saw the box score and highlights. It was a disaster. Like from the very beginning? Yes. Not competitive? No.

It was not great. Up down and sideways. There you go. That's about how I feel about it today. Yeah, I think Adam Silver all things. considered has done a really good job. I just looked at the NBA ratings. During the regular season, the NBA regular season ratings are like ones or a 0.8.

The 800,000 or a million people watch. So now they're getting mid-2s, and their demographic number is as good as their usual number, meaning they have as many people now watching in the age group they want, like 80 to 45 years old, that's the money demo. They have as many people watching in that demo is that usually watch the games. So they've been very good. I don't have the baseball numbers. I imagine they're up.

I thought Matt Viscursion, who was doing the game? Who did the Yank? Was it Viscursion yesterday? Yeah, I thought he did a really good job. I thought they had a ton of energy. Do you mean people still watching sports? Yeah, it's, you know, some people are saying it doesn't quite feel right. A college football, Pack 12 this weekend, you know, the players came out and they said,

we want rights, and they had this sort of manifesto on what they want. Some of their points are great. but some of them just were not realistic. They were complaining about facilities and coaches' salaries, and coaches have contracts. You're not going to rework those in three weeks. But I told you that's before. I believe the SEC is going to have a season.

I've grown up with Pac-12 football. I love it, but it's touchy-feely. The West Coast is more progressive. These are big progressive cities. San Francisco, Seattle, Los Angeles. This is not like rural towns in Texas and rural small towns in the south, where they get to the city. their football and that they, this is the West Coast. The PAC 12 is pro sports, progressive politics,

progressive towns. You know, in California, the employee, the employee has real power. Corporations don't like to get sued in California because the employee has a lot of power. Corporate lawyers don't like cases to end up in California. The employee often wins out here. The employee has big rights. Well, college athletes are not employees, but for, for you, years and years, we haven't paid them. And by the way, what was the first conference to talk about naming rights and, you know, image rights? And this is the reality of the Pact 12. The Pact 12 has always seen themselves as more of an academic conference.

What is right for the player? I've heard this from USC. Like they tell their coaches, we want the kids to enjoy college. In Alabama, they want to win football games. So it's not a criticism. It's the reality. The NFL, everybody's going for Super Bowls. You know what I mean?

College is to Ivy League. They don't give athletic scholarships. That's all academics. SEC, heavy football. Pac-12 feels their, you know, USC, UCLA, Washington, Stanford, Cal, these are elite universities. You know, you're going to get a lot of pushback. You know, it'll be interesting. Maybe the athletic directors and the school presidents just shut it down.

If they can't come to some resolution, they just shut down fall sports. But, you know, the Pac-12s always cared as much about Stanford swimming. and volleyball at Oregon as they have football. It's different. It's different out here. So we'll see what's going to happen. We'll see if there's a resolution.

I'm not so sure for the Pac-12. We'll see you tomorrow for joining everybody. It's the herd. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.

Well, now I'm bringing all of that. excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

On the Look Back at it podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 is big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it, with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. It was a wild year.

It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.