The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Brian Baldinger Joins!

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

Colin talks to Brian Baldinger about the Bears trading DJ Moore to the Bills, the top prospects in the NFL Draft, and more news from the NFL Combine! Plus, "Tomorrow's Headlines Today" with Jason McIn...tyre!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:33 It is great to have you in. Got a little trade today. DJ Moore from the Bears going to the Buffalo Bills, along with a fifth round pick. Bears get a number two pick. A lot of people think that's too rich and that Chicago made off with a heist. I think Buffalo got a really good player and the Bears got a really good pick. And DJ Moore hasn't missed a start in forever, so I like it. Speaking of picks, big trade yesterday, Rams.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Matt Staffers Aging gave up a first-round pick and a third round next year to get Trent McDuffie, the great pick. And this is what the Rams do. That now makes nine out of the last 10 years the Rams have traded their first round pick, yet they still remain Super Bowl favorites and have only one losing season in that window. How do they do it? How is it possible? Deepest roster next to Seattle in the league, maybe Philadelphia, how do they do it? In that same time period, the Jets have had 12 first round picks.
Starting point is 00:03:34 The Raiders have had 11, and they both stink. It's not that the Rams undervalue picks, but is it possible the rest of the league mostly overvalues picks? We've talked about this with the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys fall in love with their picks. They don't spend much money in free agency. The Cowboys draft somebody, then they pay them, and they often pay them two or three times. I don't like that. There are just many ways to be great in this league.
Starting point is 00:04:04 The Seahawks do it through the draft and then go small game hunting. The Rams get a lot of picks in the mid-rounds like Puka and Kiron Williams, and then they go big game hunting. The Bonte, Jalen Ramsey, Matt Stafford, Trent McDuffie yesterday. It's not like the Rams are giving away the first round picks for nothing. They got golf. Jalen Ramsey, McDuffie, Matt Stafford. So they're getting something for it. But success and excellence in the NFL, once again, is not just one framework.
Starting point is 00:04:37 You know, cracks me out when you go on TikTok. It's like, here's how to solve your liver. Here's how to absolutely invest. This will guarantee a longer life. It's a bunch of grifters. There's a lot of different ways. Some people have good genetics. Some people have bad genetics.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Some people eat like crap and look great at 60. there's no one way to do anything hell tim burton and christopher nolan both made a batman movie they both worked okay and they were very different so you know the rams do it one way they're trading the first rounder the buffalo bills just went out and took a big swing i would say this for the chicago bears i think part of moving dj more is open up space for max crosbie max crosbie max crosbie is so much better than anybody you're going to draft at the end of the first round, what the Chicago Bears are doing. So I'm not against or for trading first round picks,
Starting point is 00:05:37 but if I get Max Crosby, Jalen Ramsey in his prime, Matt Stafford, Jared Goff, Trent McDuffie, absolutely. Okay, so it's funny about this. And we've said this before, is that everybody likes their president that they vote for, right? everybody hates senators except sometimes their own. You know, we're all that way. So people loved Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Michael Jordan spent a lot of time at the free throw line. He wants to average 12 free throws a game. Nobody complained. Three times Kobe Bryant averaged 10 free throws a game. Nobody complained about it. KD. Crickets. He averaged early in his career over 10 free throws a game. crickets. His game is fluid. It's clean. Catch and shoot. Fits everywhere. But people are really up in
Starting point is 00:06:35 arms because SGA shoots a lot of free throws. But he's shooting last night two in the fourth quarter. That was it. Two. And I've never heard a guy get more flack for shooting two in the fourth quarter. here's Nick's coach in a loss, very good game on SGA. One of the areas obviously is the free throw line. You know, SGA is, he's a tough cover. And he does a great job of convincing the referees, probably better than anybody in the league that, you know, he's getting hit. So what people in the NBA are trying to convince me of,
Starting point is 00:07:21 is that either the league's rigging it for a skinny kid who's not very verbal from a tiny market okayc. That's what Adam Silver wants. Let's have our powerhouse be in our smallest market. Or you're trying to convince me that the refs on a nightly basis all get fooled. And I'm not going to go there. If you don't have Shaq's power or LeBron's body or Ant's vertical and you're $6.6.94, you have to manipulate and you have to find your game he's a wiry six six a buck 95 so for the record six six and a buck I weigh a buck 95 and I'm six one and a half he's thin in a pro athlete league
Starting point is 00:08:10 he does get bumped a lot so and also I think when you don't have certain athletic gifts and he doesn't have big hops. You know, he's not doing Tomahawk slams. Tom Brady, why was he so good pre-snap? Same with Drew Breeze and Payton Manning, because they had to be. Why was Philip River's good pre-snap? Because he had to be. So I think the truth about this with SGA is you don't like his game. You love Michael's game. You love Kobe's game. And they lived at the free throw line. You just don't like his game. It's not flashy. It's not fun to watch. Right? And it's not. But I mean, Kevin Durant, Michael, Kobe, games people love, lived at the free throw line.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You know what I look at SGA? You know what I see? I see a football player. I see JSN, the wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. Neither are truly gifted athletically. SGA or JSN. Both, though, can manipulate coverage. Both ascending statistically every year they're.
Starting point is 00:09:17 get better. So they clearly work on their craft. Work ethic, manipulation, IQ, EQ. That's what I see. JSN's always open. And SGA often gets to the free throw line. How? How do they do it? Because they're smart guys and they use their body and they manipulate other players. When you don't have major hops, you don't worry about getting in the air. You worry about getting other people in the air. So SGA is a great job to compromise defenders. And for the record, SGA's game is very unique. It fooled the Clippers front office. They gave him away.
Starting point is 00:09:53 He was only the number 11 draft pick. So this guy's been fooling the league and tricking the league and making defensive players putting them in compromising spots. Let's give him credit. It's not about the refs. It's not about the whistle. the Clippers, good front office, didn't see it. First 10 picks in the draft did not see it.
Starting point is 00:10:20 It's like JSN. He's arguably the best player out of that draft. But he wasn't a burner. He doesn't run past people. So, and we love to do that. For the record, I just, I want to show, I mean, I'm not saying SGA doesn't have style. Here he was after the game.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, late game they were like setting a lot of doubles. And I just felt like I ain't got a shot in a long time. And I wanted to kind of have my imprint on the game, especially late. So I tried to just, like a screen came, so I tried to reject it to get space. And then OG was like chasing to cut me off. So I knew I had to step back. I stepped into it and not to know. By the way, why does some things look so good on some people and so bad on other people?
Starting point is 00:11:09 That jacket just would not work with me at all. but SGA pulls it off. Just like he pulls off, getting to the free throw line about seven, eight, nine times a game or two times in the fourth quarter last night. Let's give him credit and JSN credit for getting open. All right, Brian Baldinger is around the corner here on a Thursday. He was at the Combine who jumped out to him that live in Chicago is next. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the odd couple on Fox Sports Radio.
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Starting point is 00:16:41 Was that the combine? Now he's grinding down to film. Okay. So let's let's start with DJ Moore. Yeah. goes to Buffalo, along with a fifth round pick, bears get a second round pick. I will argue, people are roasting the bills. I will argue this.
Starting point is 00:16:58 DJ Moore with Josh Allen and already excellent tight ends and a great slot receiver is going to be very productive, arguably more productive than he was in Chicago, which has, you know, Roma Dunzee and Luther Burden and Colston Loveland and a very profound run game. So my take is maybe a second rounder's rich. but I think DJ Moore is a number one receiver, is he not? He is. And we argued this column, maybe not in this show, but we argued in the offseason that Buffalo needed upgrade the receiver position. Gleil Shakir led them in receiving last year with 74 catches.
Starting point is 00:17:35 But it was a big, and then it was just a tight end. And then it was basically a drop off to nothing. The DJ Moore, I mean, and Shakir is a good player. Like you could trust him, but DJ Moore is the number one. And, you know, he was just in an offense where he wasn't the featured guy. Colson Loveland became the feature guy. Roman Dunsday is a really good player. Luther Burden came on.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Zekees played well. They spread the ball around. And so I think, you know, Josh is going to really enjoy having DJ more out there to throw to. When he came out of Maryland, honestly, I thought he was a running back with wide receiver skills. From the lower body, he breaks a lot of tackles. He's very powerful. And he's, you know, he can, he's good after the catch.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Trent McDuffie, I understand. why the Rams got him, are you surprised the Chiefs let him go? He's arguably on any given Sunday, their best player outside of Mahomes. I saw an emoji from Steve Spagnola. It was you know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:32 it's not good. You know, he lost his best secondary player. One of the things that allowed Spags in Kansas City for the last four years to blitz like he did was because McDuffie could hold up on the outside. You know, when the Rams made a trade like this for Jalen Ramsey, they won a Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:18:49 two years later. They got a guy that can match up with Jackson Smith and Jigba right now. They got a guy that can play any style of defense you want in the slot out wide. He could travel with the receivers. He's a very good football player. But the chiefs are in salary cap hell. They were going to have to pay him. They probably are looking at other positions to pay the right tackle. Maybe they draft or whatever. So, you know, they get some value for McDuffie, and then the Rams get a player that they really covet. Yeah. So, I, so, I want to ask you about some of these prospects, because this is what you do. Francis Maui Noah out of Miami, to me, if Mendoza wasn't available, when I watch him,
Starting point is 00:19:32 it looks like, I mean, everybody in this league needs an offensive lineman. I mean, there's almost no team that doesn't need help. All right, you played the position, and you played every position on the O line. What do you make of the Miami Hurricane? I went down to watch them in spring ball last year, Colin. Mario Cristobal runs a training camp and an all season. It reminded me of playing for the Cowboys in the 80s. I mean, it was three hours.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It was contact. It was every drill. He's got Jason Taylor coaching the defense line. Like it was a battle every day. But Maranoa is a stud. When I watch him, though, I feel like I'm watching Zach Martin at Notre Dame or Quentin Nelson at Notre Dame playing tackle, knowing that they're going to be an all-pro guard. And I just, when I watch him, I feel like he's going to be.
Starting point is 00:20:18 be an all-pro guard. And that's not a bad thing. I mean, you know, Seattle probably doesn't want a super ball without Graves Able. Tyler Booker stepped in and played right guard for the Cowboys and upgraded the position. He said he can play anywhere. Wherever he plays, he's going to be happy. But he looks like an all-pro guard to me right now. Okay, what do you make of arm-length discussion on, you know, Rubin Bain, Spencer Fennell of Utah? Everybody's saying, well, the arm-length And it's easy to be cynical, but Bill Pollyan years ago told me one of his biggest whiffs ever early was on an old lineman with short arms. What do you? Is Ruben Bain less of a draft pick to you because of that?
Starting point is 00:21:03 We all watch the national championship game in Indiana beat Miami. The best player in the field that day was Ruben Bain. He was everywhere. And he really showed his versatility. He beat the guards inside for sacks on Fernando Mendoza. the way that he goes and turns the corner and bends and his suddenness to his game, it sort of nullifies some of the short-arm arguments. There's always outliers.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Bill Parcells did not draft Mike Singletary because he was too short. There's always outliers in his position in football. And I feel like Ruben Bain is just, he's been coached by Jason Taylor. They practice hard every day. He's a tough kid. When he goes to the NFL, he's not going to believe just how easy these. like he's going to look for extra work is what he's going to do during the week getting ready for these games but i don't think it's going to affect him the way they plays the game right now um jeremiah love i i said kansas city now has two first round picks i could see can and a multiple five i think they have like three fives or something
Starting point is 00:22:04 and i can see them most teams want to move down i could see them giving up a five to move up two spots to get jeremiah love there's a little Gerr Gibbs to me is what he looks like. What do you make of the Notre Dame running back? How good is he? I love him. I love the guy. And he catches the ball like a wide receiver. In fact, at the combine, after the running backs all ran and tested,
Starting point is 00:22:31 he stayed out there along with his partner price. They caught passes as a wide receiver for 30 minutes before the next wave of players came on the field. As soon as you turn the tape on, honestly, Colin, And like sometimes your eyes just don't deceive you. As soon as you turn a Notre Dame game on, you see his speed. You see the burst. You see the speed.
Starting point is 00:22:54 If you want to put him in a category of Sequin and Bijan and Jameer, I think that's fair. And Kansas City, like the offense went backwards last year and nothing against Pacheco and the guys they've had there. But if they put a star, you know, next to Patrick Mahomes, that offense could come back to life pretty quickly. Yeah. at the combine. Anybody jump out to you? Was there any college kids that just landed well for you? That Kenyon Sadiq looks just too smooth.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Like, you know, you go watch him block down the field, but I didn't even look at the clock when he ran. I knew it was 4-4. Like, you could, it's just a difference. Like, he just is so smooth and everything he does. He jumped off. Obviously, Sonny Stiles. And, you know, what he did was at 6-5 and 244 pounds.
Starting point is 00:23:43 and to run the way that he did, move the way that he did. I'm just imagining these quarterbacks trying to throw the ball over his reach in the middle of the field. He's going to take away a lot of throws in the middle of the field just in past coverage alone. But he did. And then, you know, obviously David Bailey, you know, to beat 251 pounds to run a four or five like he did.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I mean, all of his measurables and his size, I'm not saying he's Von Miller. Von Miller is a special cat. But all of his testing reminds you, Miller. And his, you know, you talk to Vaughn about pass rush, Colin. He'll tell you the most important quality, bar none, is your first step quickness. And get off the ball. If you want to win the 100 meter dash, you've got to have a great start. This kid's got the best start of any of these pass rushers out there. It's a good, it's a good quality to have if you want to get after
Starting point is 00:24:32 quarterbacks. Okay, here's my mock draft. A lot of P, I had a GM tell me that the edge rusher for Auburn is a tweener and I have them too high. Many people think Lemon doesn't have the speed to be a top 12, 13, 14 pick. Do you have any concerns with Lemon? Yeah, I mean, I just, like I voiced earlier, like I thought he really struggled against Notre Dame in press coverage. He didn't look like he had the physical quality in order to beat that. Now, now, you can learn that. You can learn. He didn't have a great release and he didn't have great straight getting off the jam. But, you know, everything else kind of shows up for them.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But that'd be my one concern. And you can pick apart all these guys. And that's what this process is all about. And so you watch them every Saturday. You watch more games than I've watched of USC. But when I see them, again, certain games, certain teams, I have a little bit of concern. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Brian Baldinger, all these breakdowns are so good. He's at the NFL network. This is what he does. Look at that. Yeah. You do great work. All right, man, thank you. All right, buddy.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Talk to you soon. Okay. Yeah. Mark Few, Jason, Tim, Brian Baldinger. Yeah, I sent that mock draft out to a few people. A couple of them thought I was a little, you know, you got to have a USC guy in the top 15. That's almost a rule, right? J. Mack with the news.
Starting point is 00:25:57 No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's revisit the big story of the day, and that is the DJ Moore, trade, Colin, everybody is excited in Buffalo, getting a star receiver and a fifth round pick in exchange for the 60th overall pick in the draft. A lot of ways you can go here. I think, you know, let's tackle the bills for a moment. You know, they just watched the New England Patriots leapfrog past them, win the division. Yep. Go to the Super Bowl and you're like,
Starting point is 00:26:26 whoa, wait, wait a minute, we got Josh Allen here. I don't want to say it's a panic move, but, you know, when you fire your coach, GM's now on the clock. He had to. He had to do something. I think this is a splash move to get a guy, a wide receiver ready to come in and contribute. I like it. I don't love it. I think they have some holes on defense, Colin. It's an aging defense. Well, they don't have a pro
Starting point is 00:26:48 bowler on defense. It's also a problem. Where would you peg Josh Allen's bills now that they grab DJ more? Where would you peg them in the hierarchy in the AFC? I mean, I think offensively they have all the components to be great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You know, I think they're a top four team the AFC. I mean, you know, we complain about, it's hard for me to fault aggressive. So I get DJ Moore and I get a fifth round pick. Maybe you could have got, I mean, do you think you can get DJ more in a fifth round pick for just a four? You've got to give up something. And they've got a first and a third. And, you know, they're going to use those on defense. They also drafted defense last year. So, you know, I think everybody's selling their stock on Kansas City. I don't buy it. If they get a running back in an edge rush or in a right tackle,
Starting point is 00:27:43 they're going to be good. And I think Buffalo is going to be. That's three big ifs, though. Come on. Well, no, I mean, the Chiefs. I mean, Jacksonville doesn't need that much. The Texans don't need that much. Kansas City has two first round picks.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And what they need is readily available. A corner, an offensive tackle, and an edge rusher. That's probably, those are, I mean, they don't really need, if they need a running back a corner, they need an offensive tackle, and an edge. And they're going to address all of those with their first four or five picks. So hierarchy, are we doing Patriots, Broncos? If I did hierarchy today, I would say Rams best team.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Well, no, just do AFC first. No, I don't want to do AFC. Okay, fine. So hold on. I would say Ram, Seattle. I'd put Chicago 3. I think I'd probably put Buffalo 4, Denver 5.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Buffalo over Denver? Yeah. Okay. Buffalo 4, Denver 5. Chargers. Sorry. That's up to my car. I don't think that's terrible.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Chargers 6, New England, 7. Detroit 8, Green Bay, 9, and Texans 10. No Jags, no Bengals. I mean, Jags are in that 8, 9. I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:09 Jags couldn't win a home. playoff game, so that's disappointing. Man, all of a sudden it feels like the league is of the parody. I feel like the Rams are at the top. I mean, dude, I don't know that Seattle can be too, Colin. So they're losing their O.C., Kenneth Walker, it sounds like Rashid Shaheed's gone.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Those are three integral pieces, man. No. Walker had been injured for years. He had a great playoff run. You don't give a Super Bowl MVP a long deal. Like I was talking to somebody about it this week, and I'm like, listen, it's the perfect time to move off him. He was great for the playoff. run got you trophy, but he has been dinged up for most of his career.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Fair. All right. Let's move on to, oh, man, this has gotten ugly quickly. Russell Wilson versus Sean Payton. Remember that messy breakup? Oh, boy. Well, you know, I didn't realize this. Russ went on a podcast and addressed the feud with Peyton.
Starting point is 00:30:01 And honestly, Russell Wilson sounds like he's still very angry. Here we go. I don't say much. I hardly ever say anything. I think there's a time and place. but sometimes you get fatigued of people talking about you. Just like you mentioned, we're all human. You know, but it's one thing for people that maybe aren't in the field.
Starting point is 00:30:19 To me, when you've been in the ring or you've been, you know, on the same side of this and that, and I got the same amount of rings as you got, meaning Sean, right? Yeah. And listen, I got a lot of respect for him as a play call or this and that. But to take a shot, I don't like, you know, I don't think it's necessary. I think that's fair. I don't know that I've ever heard an NFL player play the rings argument. We got the same one of rings?
Starting point is 00:30:46 That's an NBA argument, isn't it? Well, I think it's a fair argument is that I got a ring, you got a ring. You know, let's not. I think that's fair. I think Russell's taking a lot of heat. Some of it deserved. He usually doesn't fire back, but this is about as ornery as you'll catch him, right? Yeah, and I think everybody has a right to defend themselves.
Starting point is 00:31:06 and Russell's taking a lot of crap through the years and he never fires back. He has every right to have an opinion and Sean tends to lead with his chin. I mean, Sean and Russell were never going to work. Their personalities are opposites. One's very optimistic.
Starting point is 00:31:18 One is hard. You know, I mean, they're just different stages generationally different. It was never going to work. But Russell's taking a lot of crap for years and never fired back. Yeah, I do like this, yeah. Good for him.
Starting point is 00:31:31 He's going, not full heel, but he is, I mean, right now he's a punching back. been for a couple years because he hasn't been a good quarterback. Would it have been fair if Russ said something like, listen, I didn't play great, but Sean Payton was a jerk to me. Would that have been a fair statement? Because remember at the end, they were like, hey, take a pay cut or we're dumping you. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:31:51 I think it was after like a Buffalo game or something like that. And it was just, Russ was just like, whoa, what's going on here? That's fair. You usually take the high road. People take shots at you all the time. You don't ever fire back. But if it was somebody that obsessed over it and they were high profile, I'd probably fireback. You know, I think everybody has a right.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Some people are very thin-skinned. I'm lucky I'm not. But, you know, I mean, Russell has not countered on about 95% of the things people have said. He has a right 5% of the time to fire back. So the only problem with playing the whole rings thing is Peyton's still around. Denver's got a pretty good team. They had number one seed. Peyton may get another ring and then he could fire back at Russ.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Russ has nothing. So I didn't like the rings angle. I think he should have just been more forthright and just said what he felt. Anyways, final story is your boy, Kyler Murray, Colin, waiting, waiting, will he go to Minnesota? Will he go to Hindi? What's going to happen? He will not go to the Jets, we hope. Anyways, before he went NFL back in 2019, Kylo was drafted by the Oakland Athletics and opted to declare for the NFL draft. Well, A's GM, David Forst, said the team is always open to him exploring a return to baseball. If Kyler-Marie doesn't get any looks he wants from any good teams,
Starting point is 00:33:12 we know he's going to get a tiny salary because he's getting paid out. Do you think there's any world where he just says, I'm going to go play baseball? The idea that you can just go, you know what, I'm just going to switch sports. Don't buy it. Baseball is highly skilled. It's never been deeper and more global. There's never been more pitching talent.
Starting point is 00:33:33 There's never been more guys throwing turbo sliders and four seamers and guys throwing 97 miles an hour. The idea that you can just walk in and play, not going to happen. Well, I guess the counter would be the Oakland A's have been pretty horrible for many years. I don't know. I don't know what's up with their minor league system. But if you've got Kyler Murray, you want to showcase him. Do you not? I think that would be great for baseball.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Hey, look, even if he flops, who cares? We got his numbers from his time at Oklahoma. No, I mean, listen, he's a great athlete, but I, you know, when Dion Sanders went into baseball, it wasn't a global sport like it is now. I mean, the talent in baseball is insane. I can remember growing up in the 70s and 80s, if a guy threw outside of Nolan Ryan or J.R. Richard, if a guy through like 98, it was staggering. Everybody throws 97 now.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Everybody. I mean, it's hard to find a guy. I mean, there are no guys throwing 80 on a staff, you know, high 80s. It's like the sport's so good right now with so much talent that the idea that an athlete from another sport can just waltz in, it's like baseball is a little like golf. You know, years on the green matter. Like just, it's just a repetition. That's why even the best hitters, they're in the cage every single day.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Yeah, but you're telling me, this was a first round pick. This isn't, by the way, anybody's saying, oh, this is Michael Jordan. They say Michael Jordan was on a first round baseball pick. Okay. Kylo Marie was an elite baseball player, big-time prospect. And the idea that he can't just pick up a bat and after six months get back in the swing of things, cheesy pun alert. I don't think this is a terrible idea for it.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Well, he's got a small strike zone. A little Ricky Henderson strike zone. Oh, Ricky Henderson, one of my favorite players. You can name all your 70s guys. I don't know who they are. But Ricky Henderson was one of my favorites growing up on. There was a lot of people's favorite. J-Mac with the news.
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Starting point is 00:37:02 We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range. Podcasts were out there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
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Starting point is 00:40:43 Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, the NFL is still positioning for the offseason. Jay Mack knows what's going to happen. No tampering. Just transparency. We do it. every week at this time. Tomorrow's headlines today. Our soothsayer makes predictions. What is the headline for Max 2X Crosby?
Starting point is 00:41:22 Soothsayer. What a reference. Listen, I'm not going to lie, been on a bit of a heater of late. We had a couple of amazing calls here. Kenneth Walker's Super Bowl MVP. Then there was something in the NBA. I've already forgotten. So Max Crosby, a lot of people are saying,
Starting point is 00:41:35 oh, maybe Dallas is in the mix. Buffalo, could they be? I got a surprise for you. The headline for Max 2X Crosby will be. Sacked to the future. Motor City unleashes matter. Max. Colin, I think the Detroit Lions make a big splash
Starting point is 00:41:52 and go after Max 2X Crosby to pair with Aidan Hutchison, fix the defense. They got the new offensive coordinator. I don't want to push the alarm in Detroit, but it feels like the Super Bowl window may be shrinking. Colin, you know, Jared Goffs, my guy, lives out near me. I've seen him in public, super friendly gentlemen. He's 32 years old, and after this season,
Starting point is 00:42:14 Jared Goff's dead cap hit drops to $29 million. I don't want to say he declined it all last year. The offense wasn't as good, you know, they just weren't as good of a team. I wonder if they see some of this, oh man, the Rams are all in. Well, shucks. Look what the Bears just did with Ben Johnson in year one. The Vikings are going to be back. Micah Parsons coming back.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I don't know what the heck the Vikings are doing, but this is a tough division. think the lions are like, hey, we got to go all in. Let's make our moves now. I like the trade of Montgomery, a declining asset, get more picks. Max Crosby, can I sell you on Detroit making a splash move? It just feels like they have bigger issues than an edge rush, but, you know, it's interesting. Tomorrow's headlines today. What's the headline for Super Bowl MVP, you called it, Kenneth Walker? Yeah, I'm surprised you think the Seahawks should just move off him. I mean, who knows what Charbonnet's level health level is going to be like when he comes back? but Kenneth Walker's going somewhere.
Starting point is 00:43:11 The headline for Kenneth Walker will be. Kay, walk this way. G-Men blocked that way. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You know that song back in the day. I heard this somewhere. Giants making a splash move going for Kenneth Walker,
Starting point is 00:43:25 quarterback on the rookie deal in Jackson Dart, new head coach in John Harbaugh. Colin, this kind of looks good, right? Cam Scataboo and Kenneth Walker a one-two punch. Very interesting. I like it. And you got on the outside, you'll have a, Malik neighbors coming back from injury.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Colin, it does kind of feel like the arrow is pointing up in New York. I think there's some issues on the offensive line, but you can overpay slightly for Kenneth Walker when you know you need a run game to take pressure off your young quarterback. Well, you can't. Between Scataboo and Walker, you're talking about guys who were great after first contact. It's bully ball.
Starting point is 00:44:01 They're a little similar. Walker's got better straight line speed, but they're similar in that very difficult. once they break through the D-line to bring them down, it'd be a very physical John Harbaugh type of offense. And I think you would agree, given how many trips Jackson Dart had to the blue tent, I mean, he was paying rent in the blue tent.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Harbaugh is going to look at the tape and say, whoa, hey, I like the scrambling quarterback. We need less running from you. We need you upright. Let's get a stronger running game to help that. So I think you're right. The Giants probably go from, you know, up to like seven or eight wins maybe. Can he can nine?
Starting point is 00:44:37 Can they win nine? 11, maybe 12. Oh, my gosh. Tomorrow's headlines today, the perpetually unhappy A.J. Brown, one of the better receivers in the league. What say you? Yeah, I've flip-flopped on this like a politician recently. You know, I thought A.J. Brown would have like six or seven teams interested. All of a sudden, the DJ Moore trade throws a wrinkle.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Like, is anybody giving a lot for A.J. Brown? But I got one for you, Colin. The headline for A.J. Brown, this offseason will be. Turn that Brown upside down. AJ all smiles in New Nest. How about the Baltimore Ravens getting help for Lamar Jackson, adding a stretch the field number one receiver. Ravens just saw Buffalo go all in.
Starting point is 00:45:20 They just saw, hell, New England passed us. Denver passed us. Here come the Chargers. We've got to do something. Jesse Minter, new coach. I don't think they want to rebuild. I just looked up Lamar's age. He's 29, Colin.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Turn 29 in January. The clock is kind of sort of ticking. on the two-time MVP. It's not fair to say he's declining, but he's coming off a bad year. He was injured. I think at some point you've got to get him a number one. Would you say he's had a number one receiver in the last,
Starting point is 00:45:48 I don't know, three years? Like a credible number one. Say, Flowers is good. But he's not a number one? No, he's a two. Do you think that Baltimore says, hey, man, listen, Buffalo bills are all in. We're not all in.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And Lamar is in control. Remember, he sat in on the head coaching interviews, and Lamar was offering input into what's going to happen with this team going forward. Tomorrow's headlines today, how about instead of optimism, which NFL team will have the worst offseason? Well, they already got it started earlier this week. I don't want to show my hand too early. This team is rapidly declining the headline for the worst off season in the NFL
Starting point is 00:46:28 will be die nasty Chief's Crown looking a little bit wobbly. this is staggering. So pro football focus has their depth chart for defense. I just looked at the projected 11 starters. They have one guy who was a former first round pick, George Carl Loftus. That's it on the projected starting lineup for the defense. The secondary is littered with third and fourth round picks who don't have a lot of experience. Spagnolo, he's going to have to work miracles with that group. And I know nobody knows what's up with Patrick Bahams when he's going to return. Are you sure he's going to be there week one? say hell no. And then you look at the running back situation, the tight end if Kelsey walks,
Starting point is 00:47:09 the receiver room continues to underwhelm. They're not Jeremiah Love away from competing in the AFC West. And, you know, you want to go big picture, zoom out? Colin, we were hot to crown Patrick Mahomes after a few Super Bowl trips. If he misses the playoffs two years in a row, we're going to have to put that on the shelf, Patrick Bahams, the goat, because we know Tom Brady. He didn't miss two years in a row. True debt. Finally, tomorrow's headlines today, which NFL team will have the best offseason? There are some candidates. There are some. I know you want to crown the Giants, which is fine. I'm going to go with
Starting point is 00:47:48 a team kind of off the board here. I was early on them last year. Remember, never wrong. Just early, the headline for the best offseason will be. It was solid dream. Titans read the Playbook magazine. I like this Tennessee Titans. I mean, first, First of all, Sala and Dable, that's an awesome one-two punch. I think that is phenomenal. I think Cam Ward will definitely be much improved. The problem is they don't have any dudes on offense. Their skill position guys are extremely weak, but they have the cap space.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And then Sala, we know what he can work magic on defenses, did it with the Jets, coach him up. They don't have a lot of talent there either. I think between the draft and spending in free agency, the Titans will be a surprise team in the AFC. And I know you said the NFC's top heavy with maybe. the three best teams in the NFC in the league. AFC's got a lot of mediocrity and somebody's going to get knocked down a peg. And I think the Titans sneak into the playoffs as a wild card team.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Yeah, no, I'm kind of with you on that. I think Dayball and Sala work. And I think Cam Ward was running for his life and there's nobody to throw to. So that was a bad combination. Good stuff. So for the record, let's throw it out there. The Boston Celtics, the Eastern Conference, the Knicks are playing. well, but the Eastern Conference, despite the fact that Nix do match out with San Antonio well,
Starting point is 00:49:08 the Eastern Conference is wide open. The Knicks can struggle defensively against good operators. The Pistons have some limitations offensively. They don't score much from the perimeter. And here come the Boston Celtics. Jason Tatum is going to play tomorrow against Dallas. And from the volume, Jason Tempt on what he provides. It's all fun in games. This has been a very impressive season for Boston, but they need Jason Tatum. He unlocks their defensive versatility. Jason Tatum gives you another guy who can kind of alleviate that burden on Jalen Brown. And specifically, Jason Tatum is a much better passer. And it's something that, as we talked about, it'll be a little clunky at first in implementing him into this
Starting point is 00:49:49 offense, but ultimately it will make them more versatile on both ends of the floor and make them a much better team against the best competition around the league. All right. So that's good news for the Boston Celtics. So J-Mack, this past weekend we had the Combine. We go into the World Baseball Classic, like the Olympics are over. March Madness around the corner. Free agency starts next Wednesday. I think it's official, but the deals are all getting sort of done over the next couple of days. So we have a Trent McDuffie deal. Rams going big, Super Bowl bubble.
Starting point is 00:50:17 We have a Buffalo Bills, a lot of criticism going big at wide receiver. I think the next shoot a drop is Max Crosby. Probably. Also, don't forget Lakers at the Nuggets tonight. Lakers in desperate need of a win against a good team. It's just an amazing time to be a sports fan. So what's your best guess on Crosby? Well, I think moving DJ Moore by the Bears is a signal.
Starting point is 00:50:43 And they're drafting late in the first round. So the best edge rusher is David Bailey. He's gone. Would you give that one and then the second round pick you just got number 60 for Max? Do you think that's enough? I'd rather go because of Drew Dolman. If Drew Dolman didn't retire, I'd be okay with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:02 But I need two seconds and a third. I got to, if I get Max Crosby, I got to get a guard. I need another corner. I need a, they have to upgrade it linebacker. They're not very fast. Yeah, I mean, I think Max is, remember, you got to pay Max. So I, two ones is, Soft Gardner went for two ones. And I think Max Crosby is a much more impactful player than Sauce Gardner.
Starting point is 00:51:27 But the age, sauce is young. Yeah. Yeah. But I think, you know, sauce got hurt last year. Crosby's there. He's relentless. He's a culture changer. I mean, leads the NFL since he entered in tackles for losses over Miles Garrett.
Starting point is 00:51:42 So, you know, it's... And the other thing to remember about Max Crosby, the Raiders usually trail in the second half in late in games. So Max Crosby, this is not garbage sacks. Right. You know, Max, a lot of teams are playing the Raiders. Those last two to three drives, they're running the ball, trying to eat the clock, throwing the ball, three-step drop, safe throw. So Max Crosby, it'd be different if Max Crosby plays for the Bears
Starting point is 00:52:08 and the Bears with their high-powered offense lead. And Max Crosby is asked to seal and close games. So you haven't seen the best potentially at Max Crosby. Max Crosby to the Eagles, A.J. Brown to the Raiders. What say you? I wouldn't bring in A.J. Brown with Fernando Mendoza. I don't want that. I mean, Brown, Bowers, Gentie, and Mendoza?
Starting point is 00:52:32 All I know, you could just bring in his college receiver, Omar Cooper. Draft Omar Cooper. You could draft him too. Bring them all. But I think Max Crosby playing for a winning team that has leads in the fourth quarter and you can unleash him. He doesn't get that in with the Raiders. They trail late.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Teams are trying to kill the clock, three step drops, dump it underneath. So he doesn't get the opportunity. He'll get massive opportunities with a team like the Bears. It's just like, say what you want about DJ Moore and nothing against Caleb Williams, but Chicago has an embarrassment of riches, running back, tight end wide receiver. DJ Moore will be the focal point of the vertical passing game. So DJ Moore to Buffalo, that is a 12-target nine-catch guy, and he'll be their, really their only dependable deep threat.
Starting point is 00:53:27 So when a guy gets traded, how does he fit into the culture and the production of the team? Max Crosby to a good team lead. It's like Micah Parsons to the Packers. I mean, Green Bay scores points. They lead late. Micah is very valuable on a good team. Micah wasn't as valuable on the Cowboys. Did DJ Moore go Bryce Young, Caleb Williams, Josh Allen?
Starting point is 00:53:51 Oh my gosh. What a leap. Jay Max, back tomorrow for an hour. I'll see you Monday. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?
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