The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Caleb Williams
Episode Date: October 3, 2023The Caleb Williams' Sweepstakes: Colin looks at the teams who would be interested in drafting USC QB Caleb Williams Thoughts on week 4 of the NFL Guest: Mark SanchezSee omnystudio.com/listener for ...privacy information.
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So we talked about this earlier.
I do not think it's too early.
When you get through a month of the NFL, you know who's bad, you know who's really good.
And that's about 10 teams.
And then, you know, you got 22 teams to figure out are they good, very good, very bad, wherever.
So the Caleb Williams sweepstakes is a real thing.
It's very rare.
Trevor Lawrence Draft was one of these where you absolutely know who the number one pick is.
Andrew Luck, you knew a year in advance.
Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams.
kind of know. So here are the teams right now that we have to acknowledge bears, giants,
falcons, Panthers, Arizona, Raiders. They're not very good football teams. There are elements to
them. I like the fight with Arizona. I like the coach for Carolina. I think the Giants defense is
interesting. Arizona is the only team there that would not for sure. Well, I shouldn't even say
they probably wouldn't draft Caleb Williams.
Probably not because of Kyler.
And I do think Kyler got him to the playoffs, right?
New coach, whatever.
And then there are these teams.
Those teams are absolutely in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes.
Now, these teams could end up there, but I like Joe Burrow, the Bengals.
I think Peyton and Russell Wilson have kind of figured out what they are.
The Jets defense is great.
Belichick super smart.
And Baker's plan is butt off with a pretty talented roster.
By the way, the Panthers don't have their own pick.
My bad.
So that is total, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.
So ten teams, because you can't count the Panthers, right?
Because they don't have their own pick.
So ten teams that are bad or potentially could be in the Caleb William sweepstakes.
And of those ten, I think Arizona probably, probably considers Caleb.
I think it's a discussion you have.
Bidwell, I don't think loves sort of, you know,
the Kyler-Murie stuff and what they went through and the public stuff.
So owners eventually make that call.
So I don't know.
I'm just saying that Caleb Williams and his father have made it pretty clear that there are teams they will maybe not play for.
That's reading the tea leaves.
My understanding is he would play for some of these teams.
But there's a handful of Chicago and Arizona.
that they are deservedly concerned about.
When Chicago ever developed a quarterback?
What if they ever had a plan that works for quarterback?
They bail on coaches.
They bail on quarterbacks.
And Arizona is, you know, when the players voted a couple years ago in that NFL poll,
Arizona got Ds and Fs on how they treat players.
So, and you can bellyache about this, but player empowerment, we've had three stages of it.
Players skipping bowl games.
I'm not watching college football anymore.
ratings are up. NIL, I'm not watching college football anymore. Ratings are up.
Transfer portal. Ratings are up. The fourth stage of it, we've seen three stages. You've made
threats. You don't like it. Get over yourself. The fourth stage is superstar college
quarterback say, yeah, I'm not playing for that team. Now, Eli Manning and Elway have done it,
and we're supported by most of the media. So I think Caleb Williams is going to say, and I think
Chicago and Arizona are very much in the crosshairs. Chicago, you don't know quarterbacks,
you don't know offense, trade the pick.
But isn't this an easy fix if you're Chicago?
Hey, we have the number one pick.
We're going to hire a coach who can work with the superstar quarterback.
Your interview should be all about Caleb Williams.
I'm Caleb Williams.
I know I'm great.
How do you know that guy's just not a good coordinator?
Well, again, Ben Johnson, for instance.
Have you seen the offense he's done to Detroit, revolutionary stuff?
A lot of guys are really good coordinators.
So you're saying you automatically want a former head coach?
I want a successful coach.
Sean Payton available, then I'd go.
If you're trying to get me to Chicago and Arizona,
I want an offensive coach that's won games.
A coordinator?
Oh, Chicago, you've got two number one picks.
I'm Caleb Williams.
I'm telling you, give up that other number one pick for Sean Payton
and then I'll come to Chicago.
I think that's a little bit.
Well, why don't Caleb Williams tell Chicago this?
Oh, you're going to guarantee me the coordinator's good.
Why don't I just send my backup at USC?
He's pretty good, too.
I'm Caleb Williams.
I have the power.
Listen, I was all for Eli and John Elway doing that.
I wasn't around, you know, for the Elway stuff.
But like, I'm player, I'm pro players here.
That's a little bit much.
Really?
Really.
It's a little much.
Eli Manning, the Chargers had actually had a history with Dan Fouts.
I mean, you can look at the Chargers and go, well, they didn't screw up Dan Fouts.
They've had quarterbacks before.
they had great offenses. Bears have never
gotten offense right.
Eli basically said he wanted to go to New York.
Yeah, and B. Eli, and Dad stepped in and said,
we're not going out there. All right.
And the Chargers had a history.
My entire childhood, the Chargers were an offensive juggernaut.
Now, their defense had O lines,
under Fouts, receivers, John Jefferson, Chandler.
I mean, they had all sorts.
Kellan Winslow.
Chuck Muncie.
Kingsbury's at USC. He knows where the bodies are buried in Arizona.
So I understand that.
on from Arizona. But the Chicago thing
is like, come on, I don't know.
It feels like a slam dunk. They're going to hire a new
coach, get Iber Fluse out of there, and
hopefully get this thing turned around.
It's a great city.
Say you.
I may move part-time to Chicago.
If Caleb Williams gets-
If this show goes to Chicago, I'm out. I'm sorry, buddy.
I'm not going to Chicago. I'm not moving there.
You know what? I'm buying a bigger place there. If Caleb gets
drafted, I'm doing the show at least half the year in Chicago.
Can I be remote or you just have to find
a local guy?
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Damien Lillard is a buck.
He showed up.
Look at that.
Media Day.
He brought his kid.
He's got his little kid.
He's got all these fans there.
He spoke to the media.
Oh, my God, he looks good in that jersey.
He does look pretty cool in that jersey.
He looks tight. Look at that.
He's very, very excited.
A lot of tight shirts up there.
I like that.
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And then I started to think about the team, you know.
So it was like, who did I get traded for?
You know, how, like who's going to be there?
And then I looked it up and, you know, I saw what kind of team I was coming to be a part of.
And then that was when the excitement kicked in, you know, just recognizing the opportunity that it is playing with somebody like Janice, he's going to, the kind of attention that he's going to get is only going to make the game easier and more simple for me.
And I think because of the way that I impose myself when I do play and how I attack games, he's going to have a kind of opportunity that I think he hasn't had as well.
I'm so excited for this.
I think he's going to be a great fit.
They needed a closure in the fourth quarter.
Beyond Janus, they got one.
Do you think his first stop after Media Day was to go to that Dells place that you've been hyping in Wisconsin?
Wisconsin Dells.
That's a summer.
Wisconsin Dells is...
You knew I was going there.
Come on.
Wisconsin Dells is not a mall.
It's a beautiful part of Wisconsin.
Next time you go to a big badger game, stop off in Chicago, go to Wisconsin, go to the Dells.
Wisconsin's beautiful.
Beautiful part of the...
What's the top beer out there in Wisconsin?
they drink it? I don't live there. I don't know. But they like their beer and their brats and
their football. I thought you were Mr. Midwest guy. I am. Listen, I fly over it all the time. I love
the Midwest. All right. Next up is Jonathan Taylor and the Colts. He's coming off the
Pupplist and will resume practicing with the team tomorrow. J.T. is still in a dispute with
the Colts over his contract, but Shane Steichen is excited that he's getting his running back back.
He's super excited to be back with his teammates and look forward to having him. He's in good shape,
positioning wise, obviously, you know, putting on the pads and practicing is a different deal.
I know it's been a long time since he's played football.
So we'll see, you know, how practice goes this week, see where he's at physically from, you know, putting the pads on and we'll go from there.
How do you see him reintegrated to the team?
Like, do you expect him to play next week or is it like a long term?
Yeah, we'll see.
Like I said, we'll see how practice goes.
The conversations I've had with him have been great, you know, through this whole deal.
I'll keep those private, but, you know, he's in a good spot.
Colts got to upgrade their Wi-Fi.
That looked like some AOL dial-up stuff there.
I mean, goodness gracious.
Gosh.
Shout out to Zach Moss, the kid, the running back, who's been playing really well for the Colts.
Yeah.
But Taylor adds another dimension.
Colts are an interesting team.
Anthony Richardson is really fun.
I know you're on the Demico Ryan's train, but Shane Steichen, for my money, has been the best new coach in the NFL this season.
He has been incredible.
Yeah.
And I think Philadelphia is not quite the same offense without him.
Indeed. And final story, the Browns were blown out by the Ravens. You're going to like this.
Rookie Dorian Thompson Robinson from UCLA made his first career start with Watson out.
Now, how's this? Watson was questionable and was medically cleared to play.
Weird.
But decided he wasn't ready to suit up.
Why?
Here's Kevin Stefanski on the disaster.
We took it day by day. Obviously, he did not feel comfortable to be, you know, the player we need him to be.
He's very disappointed.
He wanted to go badly, but he just did not feel that he could go.
Hadn't thrown all week, so it just felt like it was the right thing to, you know, see him today.
And again, he pushed himself, he tried, he did everything in his power to get ready,
but just did not feel comfortable earlier this morning and didn't feel like we could put him out there.
How's that playing in the locker room?
Yeah, well, everybody's hurt in this league.
A quarterback's medically clear.
Like, they're not a lineman that feels great waking up by week four.
Cleveland is in the rust belt.
You know, it's a tough blue-collar city.
Like, I don't know how this is going to go over.
I'll say this, though, to defend Watson,
the last Cleveland quarterback who was injured and said,
I'm playing, I'm playing.
It was Baker Mayfield.
I know.
And he, I don't want to say, ruined his career.
But he played when he was banged up,
and it went all downhill quickly for him.
Yeah.
So on some level, I understand Watson's concern.
I don't know what's up with the medical staff there.
I did not put them in the herd hierarchy.
This whole thing doesn't sit well with me.
Well, their defense also got shredded.
That was medically cleared the play and said no.
Well, we need more information.
I'm just saying,
quarterbacks usually are willing to play hurt because you can't hit them in practice.
I mean, Aaron Rogers is out there saying,
I'll be back from my Achilles tear.
Well, he didn't throw all week.
Let's, it's a tough matchup against a rapist.
I go on vacation.
I don't talk all week.
I'm ready to go when I get back.
Goodness.
All right, J-Mack with the news.
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And thanks for stopping by.
The Hurd-Ly news.
Mark Sanchez, I thought that was a little over the top.
The Fox Sports, Mark Sanchez.
Doing all sorts.
Oh, my God.
Whatever.
I don't know, but I will say this.
Quarterbacks, you had the awareness.
It is interesting.
You know, you wear the jersey.
You can't hit a quarterback.
So I've always felt like quarterbacks feel like Burrough does this.
I'm playing.
I'm hurt.
I think it's a mentality regardless of the position.
There's certain players who you just got to drag them off the field and force them out.
You almost have to protect them from themselves at times.
Of all Adams last night.
A lot of players.
I mean, how about that guy?
It's like, waits an entire year, last like eight plays, another big injury.
You saw how bad he wanted to go in.
You saw the cuts from the sideline.
He's screaming at the red hat official on the sidelines.
But, you know, that's how bad these players want it.
That's what it means to them, you know?
So I want to ask you, I don't want to dump on the Giants.
I want to talk about the Seahawks.
It's fascinating.
Gino's good, but they're not Gino-centric.
So they had a good running back.
They drafted another second round.
They had a good receiver, too.
They drafted another first round.
And what Seattle to me is saying is, we like Gino, but we're going to keep fortifying
him.
Gino's working, but they're not Gino-centric.
It's very Brock Purdy.
And I watched them, and Gino just, he made a really good throw rolling out to the right
in the car.
I was a really big time.
He made a couple of great throws.
Really great throws.
But when I watch them, I'm like, and you, with,
The Jets, when you came in young.
It wasn't Sanchez-centric.
Does that make you feel comfortable?
Does it take anxiety away?
How does it?
I think it depends.
Part of it is just whether there's a environment to cultivate that because of contracts.
If you're not paying the guy $40, $50 million a year, you got extra money to go find some players.
And oh, by the way, that's only going to help.
Look at the 49ers.
That's the blueprint, right?
You draft a guy, see what happens, see what he's worth.
and stack the deck for him, and then you make a decision later on, because a lot of players
are going to have to move on. But Coach Carroll in general, he wants a stable of guys. He knows
this is a long season. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Guys are going to get nicked up. Some
rookies could hit a wall. You know, we might need somebody to come in and battle for five games
for us and get us through that, Thiel. Drew Locke last night. He's got two quarterbacks that he thinks
can play. He wasn't worried when the playbook didn't change when Drew Locke went in. He was ready to go.
and that's great because as a backup,
now you got all these other players around you,
three legit receivers in Metcalf,
Tyler Lockett and the young kid, Smith and Jigba.
I mean, that's perfect.
So no matter who's playing quarterback,
you're set up for success.
There's talent around you.
There's places to go with the football.
The only thing you worry about when you get these ensemble castes
is like there's only one ball to go around, right?
Hopefully nobody gets upset about it.
So I think the Jets,
and I had this theory earlier,
is that Sala is such an inspirational guy.
He can't lose this room.
So he is passionately on that meeting yesterday.
We're going to Denver and winning.
Aaron Rogers, I think, is showing some leadership skills.
I don't think Aaron's coming back.
But Aaron is selling it like, guys, win games, the seasons of, we're not going anywhere.
And it kind of feels like Aaron doesn't know if he'll come back, but it feels like what he's sending is he and Sala are concerned.
and they're like, we got talent.
This team, we can't lose this room because I do think they'll go to Denver and win.
So I don't know.
I feel like Aaron coming out publicly and saying, I'm going to come back and doctors are like, no.
I think he and Saul really connect with each other.
Oh, I agree.
And they really are trying to say, guys, stay afloat.
Because I don't think Aaron's going to play.
But I do think there's value in what he's saying.
I think there's something to what he's saying.
I think it's part of it because Aaron's in the latter part of his career.
and wants to still be a part of something
and that made him feel so good.
And he felt a real connection to this team.
And so he wants them to win.
He's generally, genuinely rooting for this team to win.
But I thought the biggest takeaway from that game was,
and if I was Coach Sala, the hardest part would be to eliminate
some of those frustrations from after the game and the defensive calls and stuff
he didn't agree with and take your 20 minutes as a head coach,
but go into that press conference.
And I thought he did a solid job of it.
but I would have, I might have been even a little more on, hey, that kid, number two, our quarterback,
just flipped a switch tonight.
I saw him grow up.
And I'll take that fumbled snap.
Shoot.
Excuse me.
Patrick Mahomes fumbled a snap.
He happened to jump on it, okay?
It happens.
People take their hands off the ball.
It's a physical mistake.
It's a silly, lazy thing that can get corrected like that.
But if that's the way he's going to play, I'll take one of those a game.
Because if he's going to cut it loose like that, we can win like this.
You know what I mean?
I would have been like, the kid grew up in front of it.
of our eyes. I can't wait to get to practice because I want to see him keep going. I just want
this momentum to keep going. That's what I would have said. You know what's really interesting with
Zach and is that I don't know how I can't give other quarterbacks that are like this.
Justin Fields has a little bit of this. They're momentum players. So Zach was tentative early,
watched Mahomes struggle, it empowered him, hit a couple of throws. I felt like Zach in the middle of the
game.
Sure.
Kept gaining confidence and just a little more velocity.
Yeah.
I think some of it, too, is, you know, play selection, play sequencing, stuff like that
to start stacking a couple completions, gives you confidence as a player.
Boom, the defense got us the ball back quickly.
I barely got to look at all the plays on the sheet or on the surface, you know, on the
sideline.
I barely got to look at our plays and we're back out on the field.
Shoot, we're rolling.
Like you get a sense of momentum.
And so, especially for young players, you can get streaky at times.
Yeah.
The veterans who can do it over a long period of time and let the slumps like barely, it's one-place slumps.
You know what I mean?
They don't go multiple drives with, man, he's really off his game today.
It's rare.
You know, every once in a while, a blip on the radar.
But those guys can do it over a long period of time.
Zach's still learning how to do that.
So when you have him hot, feed him the ball.
Keep them rolling.
Keep them excited.
Keep the juice flowing.
Like, that's what you want from him because he's a little bit of a streaky shooter right now.
But when he's hot, go, man.
Just keep riding that wave.
everybody love them up. And then when he makes a mistake, let's make up for it. Let's get back to it. Get to the truth of it immediately and move on with our lives.
So, listen, it happens every year. There's a team. We don't know if there'll be any good Houston. You're like, oh, they're pretty good. There's a team Cincinnati we love. And this happens every year. And there is something about Cincinnati. I still think Burrow gets smoked.
Oh, wait. But that was last year too. I mean, before what, they've started like two and three the last few years and still go on these big runs. They're slow,
starting teams and then they end up finding it, figuring it out right around their, you know,
more or less early or midseason by week and then start to roll on some teams and get into a
rhythm. But, I mean, the quarterback gets hit so much. He and Herbert this weekend both got,
I mean, kind of like the stuff that get you out in the IR. Just absolutely hammered. And you're like,
whoa, man, that's, that's not the, I mean, same thing with Daniel Jones. You got to hit 10 times,
you know, he can't, he's barely got a breath back.
there, you know? And so it takes the other players. They need some help with these guys. And they can't
turn around and hand it off to Joe Mixing because they're down 14 points. They're down 17 points.
And now you're chasing. You can't just run the ball and waste the clock. And now you've got
no time to come back. So when teams jump out on them, it makes them one dimensional. And that's when
other teams defenses really get going. They know you're going to drop back and back. That dude's
going to be sitting there eight and a half, nine yards deep, right in between the center and the guard.
Like right there. Let's go. Make a beeline for him and go take his head off. And then
They've done that.
By the way, yesterday I spent a portion of the show going back three calls by defensive
coordinators with young quarterbacks.
I just want to concentrate on one.
Chicago.
So Justin Fields has gotten the crap beat out of them by the media.
Everybody.
Games tied.
My take is kick a field goal, take a lead.
He won the game.
Right.
If the defense stinks, all you talk about in Chicago is we got our guy.
He did it.
He did it.
Instead, negative, it doesn't get it,
then you give them the ball back trailing with a minute left
and say, go the length of the field.
I know it sounds conservative.
I don't know what the analytics say.
I would have kicked a field goal.
It's easy to say now, you know, Monday, Tuesday morning quarterback,
okay, fine.
But the big picture of everybody dumping on your quarterback,
that's got to be at the forefront of your mind.
And you're a defensive guy, like go end it on your terms.
You want to end it?
You're the defensive guy.
Like, go finish the game.
You dropped to these players.
You put the scheme in.
This is your deal.
Quarterback, you finally won us a game.
Like you could say that.
He won the game.
We got to finish it.
You know what I mean?
And pretty soon, he's going to have to go down and drive the ball down the field and get you into field goal range.
Go score the winning touchdown on fourth down.
Great.
And we'll handle that when we get there.
But he won the game.
Let him win it.
You know what I mean?
And then go help him finish it.
Does that make sense?
It's like it's all got to work together.
People got to be working together and then you got to see it through the lens of the quarterback.
I'm obviously biased.
But for a young quarterback?
Especially a young quarterback who's been through what he's been through just this year?
I thought it was a moment.
Take the points.
Let him feel good.
Everybody's high fiving.
All right, defense, go finish this bad boy.
Let's go.
Lock up a win.
Great.
Good stuff.
Mark Sanchez.
He does a very good job of this.
His film.
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All right, we got clips.
He did the Niners Cardinals game last week.
Niners play the Cowboys, so it is the game of the week.
And again, the NFL, to a large degree.
It's a lot of regionalization.
So if you live out in the Midwest or the East or you didn't see the Niners play, McCaffrey's insane.
So Mark's got clips on the Niners.
Let's go to the first one.
Well, the first one is a play action.
It's a downhill looking run.
I love the way they're using motion.
They don't just trot guys around for the sake of it.
They move use check over to this side of the formation and they're going to flash them over.
Watch the little hand signal to get them a running start because that's what they do on the runs.
Boom.
And they're going to pull the guard.
they're going to make this look, feel, and smell like run.
Everything tells Kaiser White, number seven, the linebacker,
I got to go fill this hole.
Here comes same side shotgun counter.
Boom, and I got two guys in front of me.
I'm going to have to take on somebody and go try and hit Christian McCaffrey.
As soon as Purdy sees it, he pulls the ball out and hits Ayuk right in that window that
he just voided.
What I love about it is the motion, getting guys set up, the sameness and likeness.
It looks, feels, and smells like the same run they had in the game.
plan. They ran this and handed it off. And it worked. Both of them worked. And the big thing for here
is Brock Purdy and his eyes. He's faking away. The RPO's you fake to the side. The halfback is
taught to handle the mesh between you and the quarterback. The halfback handles the handoff. And you
are looking at the defense. And this one, he's faking away from it. So he's got to see it out of his
peripheral. That's really, really hard. He's got to see Kaiser White enter his vision. I mean,
Brock Purdy does it effortlessly.
The next one's pretty sweet, too.
It's a nice little run.
Okay, so I'll say this again.
The manipulation.
It's all it is.
Even the great, by the way, a lot of times Brady would get you in and out of stuff,
so you had no idea as a fan what he was getting you in and out of.
This is the same thing where Tom Brady would turn around, turn his back to the defense,
give the hard sell, his head goes down, boom, the O-line, low pads.
It's the same thing.
They're just doing it out of the gun with a lot of bells and whistles moving around,
lipstick on the pig. It's the same exact play. What's the next one? This next one. This is like one of the
oldest plays in the book. Essentially for a defense, you're an eye formation. You run this little sweep
toss. We've seen it from Vince Lombardi. I need these guys outside. I need to stretch the defense.
A seal here, a seal here, and boom, there goes the halfback. Well, Kaiser White's ready to play that.
So what do they do? Put them in gun. And oh, by the way, don't forget this little motion.
They're just giving guys a head start, that little cheap motion by McCaffrey. Watch the left hand.
go on McCaffrey get your head start now look where they start with the football instead of turning
around and tossing look where Kaiser white has to go they already got them by five yards they got
multiple blockers out in front the convoy's gone look at one juice there goes kiddle look at there goes
debo there's the corner on the outside he's got to turn this thing back in great use his leverage against
them stress stretch and then cut the defense and look at brendle this goes against everything of my being
shouting out this UCLA guy but he's a
center. He just ran 22 and a half yards and goes and makes the scoring block. That makes plays that
are good to great. That gets you touchdowns. That's the kind of team they have. They're one of the
best downfield blocking teams, whether it's O-Lyman. You see Trent Williams all the time on the
edge, in the alley, just demolishing people, throwing bodies out of the club. Same thing with the
receivers and kiddle, all those guys. So when they brought McCaffrey over, my only concern was,
because I thought it was a great move, giving an artist, Shanahan, an open campus.
my concern was, okay, got a lot of mouse to feed.
No doubt.
One ball.
So I do wonder, have they diminished Debo?
Where does he fit?
Because IUC has become a one.
No doubt.
I mean, he is a star.
It's just the attack de jour, right?
Whatever you get today is not going to be the same tomorrow.
There's going to be a lot of the same plays.
And right now, option number one has been open quite a bit.
But you go down the list.
Let's say Kittles number two.
Let's say Debo's number two.
Let's say Iyuk's number two.
after McCaffrey, if McCaffrey's the number one read, great.
I feel great about that progression.
I would love to be Brock Purdy, right?
Any quarterback would love to be Brock Purdy.
When I get to my third and fourth, my checkdown is Christian McCaffrey?
Come on, man, when's the last time one guy's brought that guy down?
So it's, I don't know how you're stopping this machine.
So somebody told me, I think it was Jordan Palmer, had said, you know, people can
criticize Aaron, but they love him in the room.
You can't worry about the noise.
Sure.
And, you know, over the last couple of weeks, I've heard things people I trust have said with Mack Jones is the coaching staff was really upset when he left the building for advice.
Sure.
Did not play well.
So you kind of lose some guys in the staff.
The cheap shots I was told last week, a player confronted him in the room last year.
It's like, bro, you do that to them.
They can do that to us.
Don't do that.
Right.
And then I've never seen, and his play was poor.
And when I watched the Patriots, I thought it's not the score.
They're energyless.
They're listless.
And I kind of feel like, Mark,
Justin Fields may struggle,
but I can see players like him.
Zach Wilson can struggle.
I saw Jets go over to him.
Like, bro.
They were all over him.
Loving him up.
That was big.
What worries me, you,
I mean,
I remember,
we were talking about this.
I remember those games
when you were there,
you were young.
Like,
there is value in the room.
Is it fair for me as a sports guy to say?
My eyes are telling me,
I don't see a lot of support.
system or allies in that New England space with him. You know, it's hard to say from what we see on
TV. You don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes, but you do know it's a, not a closed-door
policy, but it's an in-house kind of deal, right? Like we're going to handle stuff, you know,
let's just figure it out on our own here. Let's not give anything else to the media.
Listen, bottom line is the production breeds tolerance. You know, like if he's producing,
you can handle some of the stuff. You know, you don't love the job.
cheap shots, but if they happen and you're throwing five touchdowns a game, it's kind of like,
all right, you know, like, let's try and cut that out, but keep balling. Right now, if you're
struggling, you get pulled in a game, it's like, well, now that reminds me about those cheap shots.
And then, oh, by the way, you did go outside the building. Momentum. Yeah, it's just kind of,
there's a lot of bad taste in everybody's mouth, it seems like. Right. From the outside, once again,
you never know, because you're not in there, but it's kind of what it feels like. So, you know,
He's just going to have to play his way out of this or play his way into a new situation.
So I got to ask you, two minutes left, a Caleb Williams question.
We have seen player empowerment.
College football players skipped a bowl.
NIL transfer portal.
I am not bothered because Manning and Elway did it.
If Caleb Williams says, yeah, I'm not sure I want to play for Chicago.
I've seen what they do with quarterbacks.
That doesn't bother me because it's a new world.
It's player empowerment.
These college guys have been giving their careers,
and some of these teams, Mark, aren't well-owned and aren't well-run.
What do you make of that situation?
He's going to have leverage no matter what because he can always come back.
He's got another year of eligibility, right?
Some of these other guys that you mentioned did not have that.
That was college football was done.
You know, Elway could just say, I'm going to go play baseball.
But, and he was legit to go do it, you know, like he could ball.
So for him, he could always go back.
If he does become the number one pick, there's no,
guarantee that you have to sign with that team that picks you.
You don't have to.
And then you'd kind of force their hand.
And who wants to, you know, it's just a good old-fashioned standoff and who's going to flinch?
You know, so at some point the team's going to be like, okay, well, if we're not getting anything from them, we better trade him.
If we've drafted him and he's not coming here.
Right.
The other thing, Mark, that plays.
What are you going to do?
You know what helps, Caleb is that there's a second, third, and fourth prospect that are all considered excellent.
Oh, right.
So, like, Chicago could say, okay, we'll take.
Take Drake May.
We'll take the next one.
Give us four picks.
If he tilt.
Yeah, exactly.
Then they can, everybody kind of gets fed.
Everybody gets service a little bit.
And then, all right, cool.
You want to go there?
Great.
Well, it's going to be a high price.
By the way, that game ended up being crazy.
Oh, my God.
They let him back into it.
Oh, my God.
It was crazy.
Some of those throws were insane.
The one where he's running full speed left and then flips his hips,
throw it up the numbers.
That was, I mean, you can't teach that.
Great players tend to make hard look routine.
Caleb makes, like, balls fumbled on the grass,
grab it, throw it downfield.
All right.
Mark Sanchez, Fox Sports,
always money, Bengals, Cardinals,
Week 5, J-Mack's
already all over that with Arizona.
Arizona, hey, I watched that Niners game.
You're not? Jay-Mac.
I think it's three. You got to go Bengals, no?
All right. Got to go Bengals.
We'll see you in a row. I don't know. I'm calling the game,
dude.
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