The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Caleb Williams needs to improve, the Browns QB situation, tomorrow's headlines today, Eric Mangini

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Colin talks to FOX Sports NFL Analyst Eric Mangini about the Patriots dynasty, what Caleb Williams needs to achieve this season, the Browns QB situation and more! Tomorrow's headlines today with Jason McIntyre See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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My belief has always been with life and in sports, everything is something, nothing is everything. Don't overreact, but everything matters a little in evaluation and drafting and game planning. Eric Mangini, Fox Sports is joining us now live. So, like yesterday, there was a report that the dolphins had perhaps the most lobsided, ugly practice in league history. And Detroit lion players were saying they don't even practice like us. This is for a culture that has been diplomatically elude. little loose since Mike McDaniel got there. What do I make of a story like that?

Is it something? What do you make of Miami, an organization that's had some accountabilities and physicality shortcomings? What do you make of a practice like that? Well, I'm the head coach of Dolphins. That's the last thing I want people saying about my practices. And especially in a situation where they've been accused of being soft and they've been accused of not being able to sustain things as the season goes.

on and what do we know about Detroit? We know Detroit is tough. We know they're physical. We know they've dramatically changed the trajectory of the organization because of the mentality that they've had and the mentality of the head coach. So now that group goes down to Miami and it's called the most lopsided practice in history and the players are talking about how different their practices are. If you're the owner of the dolphins, you're going, is this really, is this really what what i want my organization to be known for so not not a great day uh for for mike mcdaniel if that's if that's what's coming out of there yeah i mean by the way owners watch and listen to that stuff if you don't think they do you're crazy they absolutely listen i also think anytime

there's a report that you are what the previous criticism has been that's always bad news right like he would be better off with a report being Miami is physical and out of control, but literally got into nine fist fights with the Lions. That would be better for Mike McDaniel. It'd be against type. It would be absolutely better for Mike McDaniel because as an owner, now your friends at the country club or wherever are going to be saying, okay, you're letting this happen?

This is ultimately, it's a reflection on him. and Steve Ross is an incredibly successful businessman, and he's, I don't think anybody's ever going to choose him of being soft, so I'm sure he doesn't want his team to be represented that way, and he doesn't want his friends to be giving me a hard time over golf about his soft football team that can't win late in the year. So Jackson Dart had 41 college starts with Lane Kiffin and the SEC. That's more than enough time to play.

But there's a bigger thing than that. One thing we know to be true is that, that, you know, Russell Wilson has not galvanized teammates. That's just, that's not an opinion. That's true. He and Pete Carroll, he and Sean Payton, Pittsburgh, wherever, that's not been his strength. So Jackson Dart, good-looking, confident kid, comes in, you know, chops it up. I mean, my take is you can't fool the players. Sometimes you can fool a coach, maybe. I don't think you could fool guys in the locker room. Could you get in trouble here if you play the quarterback with a rough schedule? Like I think Jackson Darts an easy guy for an athlete to like. Good looking, good arm,

moves well. I can see players buying into Jackson DART. What do you make of their quarterback situation? Yeah, Jackson Darts had a really good training camp. I thought he had, I thought his first pre-season game was outstanding. He made a range of throws along the sideline, there's one vertical, there's one corner out, sort of that mid-level, he hit one short, he set up a screen, hit one over the middle, had the two really good scrambles, and at practice, he's extremely competitive as well, and it seems like he's more, he's definitely confident. I didn't feel like cockiness. I made it, I've made it out to a couple of Giants' practices and been able to watch him, and it does look like, like his teammates enjoyed being around.

around him and he's developing that relationship. But I would say there's a 0% chance that he's going to start in the opener. I think the approach is go with Russell Wilson and his experience and the positive things that he brings the table. And look, Russell hasn't had the best post-Seattle trajectory, but he does give a stabilizing influence to a young offense and to an offense that needs a stabilizing influence. I don't know if he'll be able to hold the job throughout the course of the season, but I would say there's 100% chance he's going to start the first games

and probably the early part of the season at least. So you coached in very loud media cities, New York and Cleveland. In Chicago, where I am now, is a very loud city. And they didn't start Caleb Williams last kick. Now, Ben Johnson said he got 70 snaps at practice, But part of me was like, okay, so stand alone game against the dolphins. Dolphins were having their own issues. Let's just let the dolphins steal the thunder this week on talk radio.

And, you know, I felt like there was a little more than just football. Do you think in the preseason that's true? I mean, did you ever say, you know what, this is a preseason game. It doesn't count in the record. I'm not going to play this guy or for sure I'm going to play this guy. But it was, I did think for a young quarterback that just needs live reps, it was weird to hold him out. Yeah, I don't think so, Colin. I imagine what Ben Johnson wants to do is he wants his first game tape under his system to be as good as it can possibly be.

So for them to take another week of him practicing within the system, of him learning the system, and then being able to come out in the second preseason game, play, and ideally put together some really good tape. So not only does it build Caleb's confidence, it builds the rest of the group's confidence. And they're going to do everything they can to script for success so that the team looks at this and says, okay, we're going in the right direction.

This is going in the right direction. There's no soft openings like you have with a restaurant when the whole world's watching what you do in the way that guys are scrutinized. So for him to take another week before putting him out in the field, I don't think that's the worst idea in the world. You want it to look as good as you possibly can

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part of LeBron's dominance in the East is that the East was a mess. Part of Saban's dominance in the SEC is that Auburn, Tennessee, and Georgia couldn't get the coach right until Kirby Smart came around. And I said part of Brady's dominance is they moved the Colts out of that division and the Dolphins and the Jets and Buffalo. I mean, Buffalo was dysfunctional for almost all of Brady's run. And that I'm sorry, if you put Harbon Herbert, Bo Nick, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly

I don't think you can win the division every year. And I think part of dynasties is the fact that New England basically got a home playoff game and a buy because they were 5 and 1 or 6 and 0 in their division every year and you had to win two

playoff games. What do you my assertion is, Kansas City will still be really good, but the days of going 35 and 5 against the AFC West are over. That's my. might take your thoughts. Well, I would say that Kansas City has a chance to win the Super Bowl every single season. So as long as Mahomes is there, they've got a chance to win the Super Bowl.

And then when you combine Mahomes with Andy, you combine Mahomes with Andy and Spagnolo and Brett Veach. Organizational, they're different than all those other places because they've got so many reps built up. They're not chasing a ring. They can make good business decisions. They can make long-term business decisions where everybody else. is trying to get to where they are.

So they're always going to be in the hunt for the Super Bowl. Can they have the dominance that they've had in the division? It's gotten a lot harder. You've got three great coaches in that division now that you're going to have to compete against. You know, from a quarterback perspective, you still have the most dominant quarterback, but all those guys have shown the capacity to win. It's different than what we were facing in New England, during part of that run.

I mean, the coaches came and went. This is definitely a different challenge for Kansas City now, just based on who they're lining up against week in and week out within the division. Finally, when you were a coach in the Browns, I'm sure you heard sports radio at least once. It's kind of crazy town in Cleveland. Yeah. We had Tony Grosier on yesterday.

He was fun. And now Shadour plays Friday, and he plays well. And I'm sure it's all tempered and new. nuanced. So when, and you live in Cleveland. So what do you make, I'm sure you thought he was pretty good, but what do you make of the reaction and sort of the circus around Chador? It's probably familiar territory for you. Yeah, well, the second they drafted Chador in the fifth round, it was going to be that way, especially because they drafted Dylan Gabriel in the third. That made that, that heightened everything drafting another quarterback ahead of Chador and then brings Chador in,

And then there's questions who made that decision. I know the owner says he wasn't involved, but I think he might have been a little bit involved. But either way, now you have this situation where everybody is tracking a fifth round draft pick and pressing for him to be the guy. Now, I will say that I thought Chador played really well. I thought he put a lot of good plays together. He put some good drives together. The start of the second half where the two false starts, he got sacked.

They went three and out both times. So it was six plays for four yards. I thought that's what we were going to see at the beginning of the game, not at the beginning of the second half. But I'd say overall for him, it was as good as he could have hoped. And him being hurts, not the worst thing in the world going into this game. He can only benefit from this because for Dylan Gabriel or Kenny Pickett, they go in and play.

This is going to be a much more game-planned game. It's going to be a harder opponent. he's put the good tape already out there. They've got to go out there and match that good tape, and he can sit back, not play, and actually bump up on the depth chart because of how they play without him ever having to go in the game this week

and match what they're doing. Yeah, no, I think it's all worked out for the Browns and especially Sjutor. Eric Mangini is always coach, great seeing you. Great senior, Colin. Tomorrow's headlines today is coming up, end of the show. But first, Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, I know you're very excited about the Cleveland Browns quarterback situation. Well, Chador, obviously very good in the opening preseason game, but he will miss this weekend. Dylan Gabriel will get his first action. Remember, he's been out with a hammy. And here's what he had to say, the young quarterback from Oregon. I don't know if I can answer that question, but I will say I do feel better from day one.

and it's just been a good progression. So you just want to keep stacking it that way and keep feeling better. So I want to continue that trend. I have no clue what's going to happen. I'm just right where my feet are, but time will tell. And we'll see what happens.

But it's up to the coaches, and we've got a lot of time to that point. Very interesting. I like that. I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm right where my feet are. I haven't heard that before. Have you?

Yeah, I have. I like that. I'm living in the present. I'm not going to think about week one. Yeah, I like that. Dylan Gabriel. If we're picking horses, I think you have Shadour and I have Dylan Gabriel, right?

Yeah, I think he is a better prospect, but I think Dylan Gabriel's had really, really elite college coaching. I think any time you get a quarterback that's a little smaller, they play with a chip on their shoulder because they've been told several times in their football life, they're not big enough. So I think Dylan is a really focused, driven kid. He was a really, really pretty ball, pretty ball.

I do think size matters in this league. I, you know, I mean, it's, I mean, I only remember one small quarterback, my entire childhood, Fran Tarkinson for the Vikings. Everybody else was felt big. Oh, wait, is Jalen Hertz considered small? Yes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's a few.

And they, I mean, Russell Wilson got to two Super Bowls. Jalen Hertz gets the Super Bowls. But by and large, six to one up has dominated the sport my entire life. So he is, I mean, listen, brought Purdy admitted. like a week ago on a podcast. He's like, yeah, 40% of the time, I don't see the throw where it goes. So, I mean, it matters. It's something. Next up, Colin, let's go to Kyler Murray and Arizona. You know I'm bullish on them after last week. Remember early last season, they were in good shape. I think they had six wins and they were headed toward the playoffs,

but then they cratered badly dropping five of their last seven. Kyler Murray knows, man, I don't have a playoff win, and I know this city is looking at me to get one. We built a foundation with guys that want to be here that have belief in the system. JG, obviously at the helm of that, has built a foundation in the system where guys can believe in something and guys fall in line and listen and really, you know, like I said, believe in what he's preaching. So the leadership there is there. I know this city, this team, organization, you know, everybody's, you know, they've been primed and ready for us to make some noise. And then finally, you know, take that next step.

You're very pro-Arizona, which is interesting because you've never been a big Tyler Murray fan, but why do you like Arizona? You have them as a playoff team. Yeah, a lot of metrics seem to favor Arizona like some of the moves they made. And listen, man, if you're just stacking wide receiver, running back, tight end, quarterback, they're right there in the top top. Yep. No, their personnel is better than their record. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

I just, who's got more pressure this year to win or get to the playoffs and get a dome? Trevor Lawrence or Kyler Murray? I think Kyler Murray, because I think because of the off-field stuff, if Kyler can't get you there, they would consider moving on. I think Trevor's going to be a jag. I just think in the community, he's a southern kid. They don't doubt his work ethic. There hasn't been any stuff off the field. You know, Trevor Lawrence has been banged up, but I think they love him there.

Kyler Murray's been more controversial. You know, I think if they did not make the playoffs, I think they like the playoffs, I think they like the coach a lot. Remember when the owner Bidwell, they were saying that he leaked the information about Kyler's lack of preparation and being on the internet and video games. They said that came from the owner's space. So I think Kyler-Marie's got about as much pressure as any quarterback in the win in the league to get to the playoffs. He's at very top of the list. Yeah, there's no way that that stat on the screen is accurate. Where are my Jets? We're the Giants. Worst record in the NFL since 2022, Arizona checking in at third.

I thought the jet could be down there. Wow. Yeah, and what's interesting is Arizona has played like the Rams and the Niners close. They are not a team. I mean, I know playing down in Arizona, you talk to coaches. It's a tough place to play. So their record's not great, but they've lost a lot of close games. And I'm with you.

I think their personnel is much better than their record. Let me, it's funny. Kyler went number one overall. You love to say he throws a beautiful deep ball. How come I don't hear when, in inclement weather, he shrinks the way you ding Brock Purdy, Mr. Seventh rounder? Brock Purdy, I think has bigger hands and he's taller than Kyler. I think Kyler throws a better deep ball, has a stronger arm, and is more athletic.

I love it. Oh, this is fun. All right. Final story, Colin, look at this. We got some soccer here. Now, Christian Pulisic making some news. Obviously, he's skipping the gold cups. Some people did not like that.

He cited fatigue and fitness issues after a long year with A.C. Malon. Well, Pulisic was talking to Tyler Adams on some sort of documentary. And Pulisic and Tyler Adams saying, hey, listen, Pulisic doesn't have to earn the respect of anybody. He wants to throw his name in the gutter if somebody does because it creates a big story and noise around the team. That's how big of a player Pulisic is and how important he is. Now, this is interesting. I thought the beef was over at the Gold Cup,

but Tyler Adams talking about it is like bringing it up again. And this is a little puzzling to me that people are still questioning. Well, it sounds like Tyler is saying Christian so good, but he doesn't have to earn the respect of anybody. Exactly, yeah. So he was at A.C. Milan and people are like, why is you at A.C. Milan? He's not a superstar. I had to look this up.

Four American players have played at A.C. Milan ever. Four. He's one of them. He's had some success there. In my opinion, what are we doing? Christian Pulisic is the most talented soccer player in the history of America. I would, I think you're probably right.

I'm sure other guys would make, there's a case for some other guys, but. Foot on ball. He's the most skilled player we've ever had. But, you know, yes, I think you're right. Yeah, and I'm rooting for him, and I think he's great. And they call him, Captain America. Like, there's a lot of positivity. But this negativity swirling now, for me.

months. The Gold Cup's over. The U.S. had a great room without him. It's a little puzzling to me. Not great. World Cup, by the way, where's a calendar we're like 10 months out. Oh, yeah. I'm fired up, by the way. You've got to go to some games with me. You know how I act as a sports fan at some of these games in USA soccer? No,

I can't wait for it. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News. Well, last Thursday, it was NFC playoff teams, and he had a couple of

Sizzlers. He had Arizona making the playoffs. Good luck. He picked Atlanta. I never trust the Falcons. So J. Mack, I imagine, has his seven AFC playoff teams. I cannot wait. Tomorrow's headlines today. Next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.

What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,

where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.

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reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, We break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsSlice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis.

And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down. everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Genshin win. I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.

She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast on the Eyeheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. All right, no time to waste. Last week, it was the predictions for the NFC. J. Mack was very bullish on the San Francisco 49ers, Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purdy. Without further ado, we call it tomorrow's headlines today. Let's start with the number seven seed in the AFC. All right, well, we'll come right out of the gate and just say it, Colin. I have a major surprise sneaking in as a wild card team.

The headline for the seventh seed will be. Co-inspiracy theory. Defensive star, also secret offensive asset. Yes, I have Travis Hunter and Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence, obviously, in the playoffs. Colin, I know that's going to sound crazy. They were really bad last year. Remember the GM, the coach, everybody got dusted. but they were an abysmal defensive team.

And obviously they decided, hey, we can't really fix the D in one off season. Let's go offense. So they get Travis Hunter, who's going to play a lot of offense in some defense. Brian Thomas, the rookie receiver last year, it was excellent. And let's remember Trevor Lawrence did not play the full season last year. He was banged up, Colin. How about this stat? Last year in one score games, Jacksonville, 3 and 10.

Three and 10. You know that's going to turn around. They had close losses to the likes of Philly, some playoffs. teams. And I just, I wonder if there's a world where can that three and ten become, I don't know, seven and five in one score games? And then you've got Jacksonville in a weak division with a awesome offense. Remember, they got three new offensive linemen in the offseason. Cohen kind of fixed Baker Mayfield. And I know a lot of people think Trevor Lawrence, is he a bust? Is there a world, Colin? Where Cohen goes in, fixes Lawrence. Travis Hunter's a hit. The offense is the top seven

unit in the league. Remember they got E.T.N. a good running back. Deiame Brown, they got from Washington. He's a great number three. Not a lot of people outside of D.C. know him. I think they're going to sneak in the playoffs as a seven seed. Tomorrow's headlines today. I like it. I got him in. Six-seat AFC. Yeah, I had this team winning the division, but like you, due to a major injury, I have kind of backpedaled a little bit. The sixth seed in the AFC, the headline will be Herb. your enthusiasm. Justin delivers binge-worthy season. Yeah, I'm going to go with the Chargers. I did think the Slater injury, you can't just lose a centerpiece to your team, not just offensive line, not just offense, your team like Slater and not expect a pullback. Now, Joe Alt should

slide over, but he hasn't done a lot of left tackle, the big guy from Notre Dame who had a really solid rookie season, but that now shakes up the right side. Let's see what's going on with Mackay Bechtin, who they added. Obviously, the wide receiver unit has upgraded significantly around Ladd-McConkey. I like Jim Harbaugh a lot, and I know people want to say, Jay, what about the Chiefs? Come on. Chiefs have got to get in. This is a Chargers team. Nobody's played the Chiefs tougher than the Chargers, basically, in the division the last few years. I think Harbaugh does it again. Chargers get in as a six-seat. Tomorrow's headlines today, we move up the latter. Number five seed in the AFC.

This team missed it last year, but it was no fault of their offense, which was a machine, the defense, the headline for the fifth seed and the AFC will be Chitty Chitty, bang, bang. Burrow invents new way to get to the playoffs. I have the Bengals getting back there. Colin, it was a disastrous season from Cincinnati. I'm reading reports about the percentage of backup quarterbacks they faced last year was the highest in the league. I mean, you're facing like DTR twice, okay? Andy Dalton and the defense still could not stop them. That's trouble. Also troubling. They didn't really improve the secondary or the defense materially. So I have concerns. I just think this offense, which if you track last season, Colin, their offense was awesome. Joe Burrow could have won the MVP. They were in every game, and then the defense lets them down in the final two minutes, giving up a late touchdown, or this is a team in the playoffs. Remember that loss to the, I mean, you could pick out any loss, but the Ravens went particularly, was brutal. I just see this Bengals team as a playoff squad. in the AFC.

Joe Burrow gets it done. Tomorrow's headlines today. Speed her up, Jay Mack, we're at 4. All right, here we go. No doubt about it. The headline will be, division winner, Camel back. Ward carries Titans over-humps. Yes, I've got Tennessee in the playoffs.

Now, Colin, that's Tennessee and Jacksonville. That means no Houston. I like Cam Ward a lot. I like the leadership. This is a team that there's just a lot to love right now about the Tennessee Titans offensive. defensively. Defense, we'll see. There's some questions about the wide receiver room, but I'm a believer Cam Ward can have a Jaden Daniels-type rookie season.

Give me the Titans winning the division. Tomorrow's headlines today. The number three seed in the AFC. This one seems like a layup, right? I mean, AFC West has been dominated by a certain team. The run has ended. The headline for the number three seed in the AFC will be. That's a serious badonka-bronk. Denver kicks Casey to. To the rear, Bo Nix, your guy, and Sean Peyton, Colin, I have them as the three-seat in the AFC. Again, this is the best defense in the league.

We could just call it now. And I do believe, even though Nick doesn't have the highest ceiling, his floor is excellent. Sean Payton, one of the mastermind offensive guys in the league, give me the Broncos as the three-seat in the AFC. Tomorrow's headlines today, let's move up to the final two spaces. Here's number two with J-Mack. This offense was incredible last year. Somehow they melted down in the playoffs. again. The headline for the two seed will be Harbaugh and Order. Trophy exhibit admitted into

evidence. Yes, Baltimore wins the division once again. Cincinnati will be close, but Baltimore, Colin, the numbers they put up last year with a, with the defense that kind of gave up a lot of big plays. I think they led the league in defensive penalties. They must be better if they want to get to the Super Bowl. But Lamar and Derek Henry for sure, despite a wide receiver room that's shaky, I like the Ravens, 11 or 12 wins in the playoffs once again. what's coming next tomorrow's headlines today the number one seed from a chilly northern city well it's not the chiefs it's not the texans the headline for the number one seed in the aFC will be buffalo for bear locked cocked and safeties look looked off college josh allen best player in the league

i don't really think you can argue it at this point lamar's excellent burrow's excellent it's got to be josh allen remember their win total they equipped it by three games last year that's how good this team was, I mean, there's not a lot to hate about Buffalo. They upgraded the defense. I think the bills are going to the Super Bowl. Well, that leaves a conspicuous absence. Kansas City is nowhere to be seen. Now, I have the Chiefs as a wild card team.

So our final entry this week, tomorrow's headlines today, what would the headline be for those losers in Kansas City? Oh, boy, we had to do one for the KC audience. The headline for the Kansas City Chiefs this season will be T. Swift drops new album as T. Kelsey drops out. Look at that. Travis Kelsey on stage with Taylor Swift. I'm sorry. I got to stick to it, guys. I've been on this boat for months. I get it. The wide receiver room should be upgraded. By the way, the Rishi Rice News today, he's going to play the first few games, but we'll see due to a September 30th hearing. I just, I got to see it. I don't see it from Kelsey. I didn't see it in the playoffs. Obviously,

see we're Taylor Swift fans here on the show. I'm sorry, I see some drop-offs for the Chiefs. It's tough to stay on top forever without reinventing yourself. I didn't see the reinvention this offseason, Colin. I know it's crazy, and I'm sure Nick is very upset watching this, but I don't have the Chiefs in the playoffs. I'm sticking with it. Yeah, I mean, they're crossing their fingers at left tackle with Josh Simmons.

They lost Joe Tuny, so the Interior O line has Creed Humphrey, but probably not quite as strong. The run game's been a little disappointing. You know, I mean, Chris Jones is still in the biggest games. A monster. Travis Kelsey sort of disappears. I mean, listen, they're going to be in close games. I don't think they have the offensive firepower.

They're just too inconsistent at wide receiver. 11 and 0 in one score games last year. Yeah, that's not going to happen. Even if they went 8 and 3 or 7 and 4, that's a great one-score record. so I think I think both of us agree Denver's O-line coach quarterback quarterback still inexpensive pass rush best corner in football I mean I don't think it's a reach to say Denver's got the best roster in the division I think PFF may disagree I think I mean again if Rishi rice becomes a number one then maybe I'm wrong here because I just worthy to me as a gadget player

Rice, I don't trust though. I think he's really good. I think Denver's got the best roster. I'm going to ask you, you'd like to say sometimes, well, if C.D. Lamb goes down, the Cowboys are cooked. Is there a single point of failure with the Chief's defense if something happens to Chris Jones? Yeah, I mean, they're still good, though. Good, but they're not like elite superstar top five. I mean, Spags can only do so much. Yeah, I think they're pretty good.

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