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or stream us live every day on the iHeart radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I can sit with Finch and ask him questions for an hour. Most underrated, most overrated, the best player, this player, that player. So let's start with us. First of all, it's great to see you. We were talking during the break. You're two and one against Spurs.

You're two and one against OKC. All my NBA guys, they always say there's two seasons. and the athletic teams that have a closer and a good coach, that's the dangerous team in the postseason. And my guys are all saying, watch Minnesota in the postseason. They're built for the playoffs. So you've done well against Wemby and OKC.

Let's first start with this. J. Mack and I talked about it the other day. He had a game against Detroit, Chris. He didn't even score until late, and he controlled it. Steals, blocks, rebounds. First time you played against him. How do you defend Wemby? What did you do?

Well, the defending is just, I think, half the problem. When he's on defense, he just changes the geometry of the floor. Guys don't even want to be themselves. They don't tack the paint in the same manner. He can cover so much ground on a closeout. You know, he can be in a help position and still be, you know, guarding two or three players. I've never seen anything like that with his length, his anticipation.

If he has his three ball going on offense, he's unguarded. You know, we played him in an, it is an epic game in January. Him and Anthony both went for almost 50, and it was a lot of fun to watch. And he, you know, he had his three-point shot going that night. And if that's going, you know, I don't know what you do with them. You've been in basketball for a long time. Oh, SGA's been banged up. He's one of their weaker defensive players.

If I said to you three or four best defenses you've ever seen in the NBA, does OKC qualify? Well, last year's OKC version for sure. This year, as you said, some of their better defenders, Caruso, certainly, Jalen Williams. They've been hurt all year. But I'll tell you who's really good defensively. Well, both their bigs are, but Hartnstein has outstanding field defensively and Chet challenges everything. And all their guys guard, you know, even Shea, you know, he's going to execute the game plan, compete on the ball, do the things they need him to do to be really good.

And so I would, you know, they were historically great defense, no doubt, and they earned that. Yeah. So listen, last night, you know, I always say this. I remember there was a video years ago, a Peyton Manning and Jeff Saturday yelling at each other. And I'm like, guys, and fans freak out. And I'm always like, I've watched Brady rip coaches in the middle of a game or late game. It's pro sports. It's live.

So you and aunt go back and forth last night. He's like, I don't care. I'm good with it. Yeah. But when you get into situations like that, you're like, hey, I need you to dish. He wants to shoot. Like, he's your star.

Take me through it. Is it difficult for you as a coach? Yeah, I mean, listen, we're both fiery competitors. It's been part of our relationship since day one. And, you know, we have a phenomenally talented player who makes great shots and he's a closer and he's taken major strides in that department. And we're lucky to have him. And, you know, this is not the first game winning shot that he's made for us this season. But, you know, he also has the burden of responsibility of making his teammates better.

and making the right play, and that's what we're preaching to him all the time. He's really emotional, I'm emotional. You know, we say these things to each other, and we move on. We don't take it personally. You know, I didn't think the comments after the game were mean-spirited. I thought he was just kind of joking around and taking, you know, we just jab back and forth with each other. And, you know, as you know, Colin, these guys are super competitive,

and they're very prideful. and sometimes you've got to stoke that fire and sometimes it comes back on you, but that's part of it. Yeah, I saw Andy Reed and Travis Kelsey. I thought Andy was going to throw a headset at him. I'm like, it's like, folks, this is life. It's pro sports.

You know, it's funny, the NFL films does this all the time. They'll mic people, and then like a year later, you'll hear it. And you hear Belichick and Parcells and it's like, guys, it's live. It's, you're on a clock, you're on national TV, get over it. So one of the things, things that I think is pretty clear. And I think the NBA is right. The WNBA doesn't, they really let physical play in the regular season, so their stars get banged up and aren't always available for the postseason. In the NBA, you know, they're going to whistle stuff in the regular

season, and then they let you guys play in the postseason. And I mean, when you lose players, Tatum gets hurt, Halliburton. What do you do as a coach? Because you're a team that can be physical. Detroit's a team that are physical. Nicks aren't necessarily as physical. What do you do to kind of ramp your team up and to prepare for basketball because by the time it's late April and May, Chris, it looks different. It's officiated different. It feels different. I mean, it comes through the television. How do you prep a team for that? Yeah, that's the great point. And coming out of the All-Star game is usually that line of demarcation. We've just played a number of physical games.

So in terms of getting us ready for the playoffs, I do like that. And we've got to respond. Like, we're not always the hit first physical team, but when somebody does hit, we do get back into it with them. And that's good to see. You know, you're right. The playoffs are just another animal altogether. You've got to be able to play through physicality, with physicality. You've got to be smart with the physicality.

And referees, you know, at that point in time, you're also getting the best referees who can manage that physicality better, which which cleans up the product too. You know, we were talking during the break, and this is always fun. I said, okay, give me a guy in the NBA, and everybody makes good money, so it's not a salary question. And I said to you, J. Mack has a question. He goes, who in the NBA do you as a coach? Do you look at as a player and think, boy, that guy is good.

And we don't talk about him on shows like this or Stephen A's show or somebody's show or Nick Wright show. but a guy that you look at and you think, man, that guy deserves pub. He's a big time player. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm going to start right on our own team, Jaden McDaniels. I think Jaden McDaniels has become one of the best two-way players in the league. He's always been great defensively. I think his defense has gotten better. I don't think he gets enough credit for being the level of defender that he actually is.

His offense is taking major steps this year. We can now give him the ball. He can get buckets on demand. His three-point shot is up over 40 percent. His rebounding, his usage, his assists. These are all the steps that we needed him to take to be a better team this year, and he's done it. So he's one of the most underrated players. The league he plays in the shadow of Anthony and Rudy defensively and Anthony offensively and Julius Randall.

But he's just as important as anybody else to our team. So J-Mack and I got into a argument the other day. I have no problem. I think you have to play 65 games. this is to attack load management to win certain awards. And JMAX's like, well, then Cade Cunningham is going to win MVP. And I'm like, I'm good with that. I mean, their offense without him is, I mean, it's just, it's non-existent.

Like, he is the offense. That's why I don't think they're a title team. They're too young. They're a little unbalanced offensively. They're physical. He's a star. So my argument is, how could Yokic be the most valuable player in a league when he's less valuable to his own team than he was?

year ago and I love Yokic. So if I said to you, you got to play 65 games, Cade Cunningham's the MVP. How does that sit with you? He certainly have an MVP season. I'm, you know, I'm fine with that. My only counter would be that if somebody like Yokic can play in only 50 games and they can still be second or third in the west, you know, in what he's doing on the floor when they're on their floor, it's, you know, he still has to be accounted for. I mean, his greatness definitely is going to carry a team all by itself to 55 wins or nearly every season. But yeah, I'm all for what the league's done to try to counter tanking. There's going to be some unfortunate cases. There just is going to be, you know, but I don't think saying that Cunningham as an MVP is saying that he's

not worthy. I think he's had a season. You know, they got one of the best records in the league, if not the best record in win percentage-wise. If I said to you, Ant Edwards, obviously his three-point shot is much better. But, you know, I think, you know, the difference between college and pro is at the pro level, if you don't play defense, you're getting eaten alive. You're going to give up 27 points on the other end. How much with Aunt Edwards defense, is it coaching, listening, how much has been his commitment to it? Because, you know, there are some stars in this league. We all know the Lucas story where he's a liability. How do you get highly, compensated, gifted, offensive guys. What's the secret to make them play defense where you don't

get any credit? It's hard. You can get burned constantly, but it's hugely important. Yeah, I think, you know, so first of, Anthony is certainly not a liability defensively. I think he has an opportunity and talent to be elite at that end of the floor. And there are times when he just takes over defensively, whether it's taking on a matchup or making plays, you know, Some of the plays he makes late in games defensively are spectacular in nature. We've seen a lot of really good blocks, great blocks, timely blocks. And for me, it's kind of like, what's the pathway to being great next? What's the next step?

And I think he can be the best two-way player in the league. And I think that's his platform for being an MVP candidate. And, you know, he has a huge load offensively. And, you know, one of the things that, you know, all these players hear when they come into the league, And there's some truth to it. I've never scored 30 points in the NBA. It must be hard to do on a night-to-night basis. And you can only put your energy certain places at certain times.

But you can't just punt on defense just because you use a lot of energy on offense. I think there's also a way to maybe, I'm not talking about just with Ant, but in general, you know, be a little more efficient on offense, so you can be a little better on defense too. So we try not to buy into those mantras. And, you know, the great thing about Ann is he always, He always meets the high moments. And when we need him most, you know, he'll step up and play defense.

But coming down the stretch here, we've asked him to be better defensively, and so far he's responded. So I moved to Chicago from Los Angeles, and everybody in L.A. is like, oh, you're going to move back. It's just too cold. And I'm like, it's called a jacket. I grew up in Seattle. I know wet and cold. So you live in the only place in America, colder than where I live. You live in Minneapolis.

And guys, J. Mack, who's wearing his. Luca, Jersey on the beach six days a week, tell him the advantages to being in cold weather. Minneapolis has smart, civic-minded people. Are you fine in Minneapolis with the weather? I'm fine, Minneapolis. I look forward to the seasonal change. Yeah. And add some variety. What you find is where I've lived all over the world. And one thing that I've always impressed me about wherever I've lived with people is that they lean into what's going on around them. I didn't even know snowshoeing was something people did. I thought it was just something people did in cartoons, but apparently it's an activity. And, you know, people are

outside in the winter, enjoying the winter for what it offers, and whether it be cross-country skiing, playing hockey, all these things, you know, very active people in Minnesota and they enjoy all seasons, including winter. Yeah, I'm going ice fishing in Tuesday, so I love this stuff. Hey, Chris, It's great to see you. Congrats in the success, force rate playoff appearances for the T. Wolves. Top seven defensive rating on my screen. And great seeing you again.

Thanks, Colin. Appreciate you having me on. You bet. He was coaching and they were winning last night as Ant hit a big shot down the stretch. NFL Combine this weekend. J. Mack, I was talking to Middilkoff about this last night in the podcast. I watched less of it now than I did like three years ago.

And I think a lot of it is I talked to a lot of different people. And it's, I mean, when you have the Rams and the Jags playoff teams being like, well, we're not going to send people. I don't think it's terribly authentic. I think all the interviews are prepped. Everybody's in the world's best shape. You know, I think you can get it all done at pro days. How much NFL combine will you watch this weekend? I'm more of an NBA college basketball guy this combat season, Colin.

So, I mean, you could catch a clips online, obviously, the 40-yard dash. Yeah. What do I need to watch some guy putting up bench press? like 30 reps for. Like, there's just no value there. And plus, people overreact to this stuff. Sunny Stiles, you know, nobody drafts a linebacker early. But Sunny Stiles tested off the chart yesterday, right?

Unbelievable, maybe the greatest performance ever. And now there's like, do the Jets take him at two? Let's slow down, guys. Like, I know we're desperate for football. But like, hey, maybe let's take in the Timberwolves Clippers and enjoy Anthony Edwards and watch some college hoops, Illinois, Michigan tonight. Oh, that's on Fox. That is a real, that's more.

of the best college games of the year. Tonight, Michigan, in Champaign against Illinois. These are teams that can make the final four. These are, Minnesota. These are final four-level teams. I-O. DeSomo, the guy who was at Illinois a few years ago, great player, new

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We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jen Chinchin win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now and I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck.

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I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context and ask the questions everybody wants answered.

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So he's an restricted free agent. Cowboys made an offer to make him the highest paid kicker in the league at 7.5 million. But reports indicate Aubrey's looking for 10 million a year. Colin, 10. Then Aubrey went on Instagram to shoot down those reports saying it's fake. Now, we know he's one of the best kickers in the league. He has hit on, unbelievably, 88% of his attempts over the last three years. He's got value.

He's amazing. But 10 million a year for a kicker? I'll, so I've always had this argument. The highest scoring player on teams is often the kicker. In no other sport would you be outraged to draft a kicker or pay them 10 million? Are you telling me in an era when 60 yard field goals are fairly common that that kicker is not worth $10 million? Well, the highest big kicker in the league of all time. If a kicker wins you, if a kicker wins you.

two games a year of 17, and Aubrey is absolutely one of the three guys that can do that, I'm paying him 10 million. Okay, so let me ask you, take a guess. This guy's still currently in the league. Who is the highest paid kicker of all time? He's still in the league. Well, it was the... Harrison Butker of the Chiefs, 6.4 million, according to our staff.

6.4. You're going to basically move up to 10 for Aubrey? That's a little bit crazy. The Cowboys have needs, Colin. I will just say, with the new kickoff rules, if you don't have a good kickoff and you have a great kicker, the Cowboys need like 25 yards and Brandon Arbery's in range. That's like three points for a couple first downs.

I don't let him go, but I'm very curious how this shakes out because I wonder what happens if he hits the open market? Listen, people didn't use to pay tight ends or safeties. Have you noticed like the safety position for a lot of teams like Seattle, Philadelphia, the Ram, there are teams in the league now that are, you know, the value of safeties and tight ends over the last 10 years,

because the top tight ends now, you can split them out wide. So to me, like, kicking changed. The PAT, A, is harder than it used to be. Okay, B, 60-yard field goals are in play. C, we've changed the kickoff. So I have three elements in football for anybody listening. The kickoff change, the PAT change, and the distance in which they're using a new ball now that you can kick with.

Now, that's being kicking more important. So six and a half to me, if I got to nine, I can absolutely. Again, he's an offensive weapon in an offensive league. So you're going to have the highest paid quarterback in the league or one of the highest in Dak Prescott? I don't love that, but I'm saying I'm not letting him walk. But also, you're having, so one of the highest paid quarterbacks, one of the biggest cap hits, maybe the most expensive wide receiver duo in the league in Pickens and CD Lamb, and now you're going to have the highest paid kicker by a country mile.

You're also going to have two first round picks, and you're going to select two defensive players. So you're going to get some value on the defensive side. And, you know, you and I've talked about this. I think they're really smart teams, the Rams do this. They put their money on offense. They go young, cheap, and talented on defense. So the Cowboys need to get less expensive on defense. Two first round picks will help.

Don't be shocked. I'll say this. Cowboys don't have a second or a third. Don't be shocked if they don't move down with their first pick and pick up a third or a fourth round pick and draft another defensive player. Yeah, it's just crazy how good of a weapon Aubrey is in the NFL. I feel like any time you're in field goal range, he's good.

Okay, so paying a kicker $10 million is 3% of the NFL. of the cap this year. The Seahawks just won the Super Bowl. Their kicker was 2.4% of the cap. Jason Myers. Yeah. He's good. He's good. 20 to 21 top players in the league in point scored, all 13 at the top, all kickers, and 20 and 21 top scores are kickers. And I'm not going to pay 2.5% on my cap for my highest scoring player in an era when the kickoffs change, the PATs change, and they're using a new ball. Well, how's this count? Brandon Aubrey, $9 million. How's this?

Because Sam Darnold's only making 30, 35, 40, and DAC is closer to 60, you can afford to pay your kicker. By the way, Seattle has a great punter, too, don't they? If memory serves, he had some amazing, like, punts in the postseason or maybe late regular season. You can spend more when you're not giving it all to the quarterback. The last two years, the highest scoring player in the league is the Cowboys kicker. I can't pay him two and a half percent of cap. No. Wow.

All right. That was fun. That was good. All right, let's move on. The Colts are moving off of Anthony Richardson. They gave him permission to go seek a trade. And obviously, everybody's speculating what, Pittsburgh, where does he go? Who takes a chance on this guy who can't complete five-yard passes?

Interestingly, a bunch of people looked at when the Colts played the Vikings. And apparently Kevin O'Connell is like a huge fan of Anthony Richardson and went up to him. And one of them was miced up and he made a lot of nice comments. So now there's speculation. Does Kevin O'Connell say, go get me Anthony Richardson for like a fifth or something cheap? I mean, Trey Lance got, I forget what he was traded for. It wasn't much.

But Anthony Richardson has more talent that Trey Lance did. I'd be very interested to see what the market is like for Richardson. Somebody's going to take a chance because he's super young and has 15 starts and is like a freaking Adonis. When you look at him, he gets to make any throw, outrun anybody. Where are you on Richardson? He is a backup. Talented, strong backup.

He just can't consistently throw the ball accurately. It just doesn't work for me at all. So if you're J.J. McCarthy, you're like fine with this move, you know? I don't think J.J. McCarthy's going to finish the year as the starter, but I think Minnesota's got problems on their hands. All right. So Kyler Murray or Anthony Richardson, who you take him? It's not even close, Kyler Murray. Not even close. Chua or Anthony Richardson? Tua.

Oh, you're loving. on Richardson. I can't be lower. I cannot be lower. Final story is let's go to the World Baseball Classic and Shohei Otani. Colin, that video you see on the screen, the packed stadium is to watch

Shohei Otani hit batting practice in the Tokyo Dome. BP for Shohei Otani and the thing was sold out. The World Baseball Classic, obviously coming to Fox NFS1 starting March 4th through the 17th. Look at these bombs Shohei's hitting. Oh. Baseball. Well, that was a foul ball. But the first matchup is a week from today, 5 a.m. Eastern on FS1.

You know, since you're in your Chicago area, you can wake up in the right time zone and watch that. No problem. USA Brazil is a week from today. And obviously, all eyes will be on show hey and his country is they. Well, it's a world baseball class. It's going to be fun, man. A lot of big names out there. It is fun. No. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News.

Team USA is favored to win just like they did in hockey. Everybody seemed to enjoy that except the print media. Everybody in America loved Team USA winning gold, except sports riders, apparently. Tomorrow's headlines today.

Next. What's that? Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news?

Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend.

But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering

that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs

banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay.

Jenchian win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world, right now and I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open.

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Somebody's going to make bids on these guys. It's time for tomorrow's headlines today. Jay Mack knows where they're all going to land. Colts have some decisions to make. What say you on Daniel Jones? Yeah, got the crystal ball out, started to look into the Colts situation. Daniel Jones, do they want to keep him? Do they punt the headline for Daniel Jones in indie will be nickel and dined.

Colts divvy up to keep Danny. Colin, I cannot see a scenario where they lose him. I mean, I know this sounds bad to say, but like they're in a great spot. No other team is backing up the brinks for a guy coming off a major injury, Achilles, and he's had two other season-ending injuries in his career. So nobody else is, they're not bidding with anyone else. They can get a team-friendly deal. obviously he thrived early in the season.

Started to fade a little bit late, that had the injury. I think you're bringing a bridge quarterback to get to Jones. I mean, again, you don't know how he's going to react coming off the Achilles. Remember Aaron Rogers coming off his Achilles? Now, Jones is much younger. But part of Jones's strength is escapability running with his legs. Is he going to get that back instantly?

I don't know. Tomorrow's headlines today. What about the veteran, nice guy, Kirk Cousins? So we know they're in the market for somebody. unless your boy, Riley Leonard. Remember, I think you said he was like Josh Allen or something. I don't know.

Something ridiculous. But, you know, he showed well a little bit, but they got to go get a veteran, right? This team needs to compete. They gave up picks to go get sauce gardener. So the quarterback, the Colts go after, the headline will be a Kirk in the road.

Colts find trail to two quarterbacks. Yes, I'm going Kirk Cousins here over Tua, over Kyler Marie. So I looked into the data of, where Shane Steichen liked to throw the ball last year. Right? He had Daniel Jones and they threw deep to Pierce a lot. Love the vertical game. Pierce is a free agent. He's leaving.

So what happened when Jones went down? They brought in Phillip Rivers and they had to pivot to a more truncated offense. Middle of the field stuff for Philip Rivers. Who does middle of the field stuff? Kirk Cousins. You got a great tight end in Tyler Warren. Pittman goes over the middle a lot and you've got a smart running back. This makes sense.

You got a great running back in Jonathan Taylor who can also get everybody. to suck up to the line of scrimmage to contain him. And then you got Warren and Pittman on the outside. I think Kirk Cousins fits. And frankly, I mean, I don't know that Daniel Jones is a lock to overtake him once he returns. Where are you on Cousins versus Jones? Daniel's a much better athlete.

I would probably at this point in Kirk's career take Daniel Jones. Yeah, interesting. All right. Well, we'll see Kirk. I think Tua and Kyler probably a little too pricey. and those guys are better than Kirk Cousins as the stage. They're not giving up that job, did Daniel Jones?

Tomorrow's headlines today. What about the current Niner backup, Mac Jones? Yeah, Mac Jones really fortified his value last year with a great showing coming off the bench. The headline for Mac Jones in 2026 will be Mac to reality. Jones stays on track with Niners. Colin, I see no value at all in trading Mac Jones anytime soon. The smart move for San Francisco, and you look at this historically, every year some quarterback gets hurt in the offseason program, something happens in preseason, and you need a quarterback, and you're desperate.

And then there's nobody out there. I think the Niners keep Mack Jones, and if they plan on moving him, I think at the deadline during the season is more likely to a team desperate to fill that quarterback role. I mean, hell, what if something happens to Brock Purdy this off season? You can't, you go on the next season, no Mac Jones brought no Brock Purdy. It's over. You're not going anywhere. And so then you maybe tear it all down. What do you do with McCaffrey?

So you definitely keep Mack Jones down. I would be floored to get what? A third round pick? And, oh, by the way, Colin, next year's draft, early return. It's very early. Looks to be much better than this year's draft. That's what the draft guys are saying. Tomorrow's headlines today, the enigmatic, semi-committed,

Kyler Murray, who I like much more than J-Mack. Yes. Well, you guys hanging out at UFC fights and stuff. I don't know. Kyle Murray is a tough one, man. He ran out. He wore at his welcome in Arizona. They don't want to keep him.

But where does he land? The headline for Kyler Murray in 20206 will be fried Cala Murray. Quarterback comes with a side of pick six sauce. Colin, what do you think about that? Minnesota Vikings. Let me go into the logic here. I know Kevin O'Connell's a quarterback whisper. I just don't know if J.J. McCarthy is the right fit.

In that indoor setting? Holy cow. He can do some great things on the turf. And, oh, by the way, he comes into an offense with Justin Jefferson. Hello. Well, they have a better old line than Arizona, too. Yeah, for sure. I just think Minnesota makes a lot of sense.

Now, if the schedule comes out and they got to play Chicago and Green Bay in December, that stinks. We know, Kyler, obviously has struggled in his career outdoors. But I like the offensive line in Minnesota. I think Kevin O'Connell is a guy you want to go rehab your career. see what Sam Darnal did before moving on to win a certain ones. Listen, I think Kyler would like that. I just will KOC like that. And finally, tomorrow's headlines today.

I think Malik Willis, I think there's going to be two or three teams that make a real run at him. Athletic, little small, accurate, nice arm, learn the Green Bay system quickly. What say you? Yeah, so Miami's supposed to be a contender. They don't have any money. They want to move heaven and earth to get Malik Willis.

My Jets, they are not in the mix. Sorry, Malik. The headline for Malik Willis next year will be a don't tomorrow. Be happy. Give me Malik Willis to the Arizona Cardinals, reuniting with A. LaFleur, brother. LaFleur obviously coached him in Green Bay. Colin, I just, it's real tough for me to get super excited about, I saw NFL network ranked him as the number one free agent. And I'm like, why?

He threw 35 passes last season. What are we doing here? Colin, his four-year sample size is not even like a full NFL season. He just hasn't done enough for me to justify 35-mills. Now, we know there's a quarterback deficiency around the league, right? There just aren't enough good starters. So maybe somebody desperate overpays Malik Willis. But do you really have confidence he's going to be a three-year starter on a playoffs team?

Well, at $30 million, I can stomach that. Here's Robert Mays from the athletic. earlier today on the Malik Willis market. If you're a quarterback needy team and you're telling me that you're not looking at Malik Willis, you're a liar. And think about how many quarterback needy teams there are and how few avenues there are to those guys this year. Baker Mayfield signed a one year $4 million deal to be the buck starting quarterback.

And then when he succeeds, you see it start to creep up. All right, Dernold's 10 million. Daniel Jones is 15 million. Justin Fields is now 20 million. And so the idea that you could have gotten Baker for $4 million bucks three years ago. And now Malik Willis is going to make $30 million a year in free agency. It just shows you how fast things change when a certain idea starts working for people.

And the cap now is $22 million higher than last year. It's $301 million. So, Colin, let me just jump in. And Mays is smart and it does a great job. He mentioned Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield started for four seasons in Cleveland. Four. But he also had baggage.

He did. Sam Darnal, multi-year starter around the league. I know you're going to be shocked to hear this. Malik Willis has started six games in four years. They're in front of you. Give me his stats so far as a professional football league quarterback. He has attempted 155. So Malik Willis has attempted 155 passes in four years.

67% completions, 1,300 yards, 6 TDs, 3 picks. He hasn't thrown an interception since his rookie year. Because he's not throwing the football anywhere. Colin, he's not throwing in Green Bay. I mean, basically they had him come in. Remember it was a heavy run game and he threw like 13 passes? Yeah. Because that's what called for the victory.

LaFloor's a smart coach. You're giving a guy with 155 pass attempts. Again, that's like a month for Baker Mayfield as a starter back in Cleveland. Okay. You're giving him 35. You're glossing over this. He has a career 99 pass rating. He is hyper athletic.

and he doesn't throw picks. Well, it hasn't thrown picks in the law enforcement. I mean, again, 99 passer rating in two different conferences, hasn't thrown a pick in four years, and is crazy athletic, and from what I can tell, well-liked. Yeah, I can't find an apples-to-apples comparison for any quarterback who's played this little after four years

and then got a lucrative free agent contract. I'm not asking you to pay him 38. I'm saying, can he get, can he get, I mean, let's say the mark, because I think two teams will go after him. Would you be comfortable with this? 26 million? I mean, you could be comfortable with that. I honestly would rather get an inferior quarterback, try them out there and have my Jets win three games, and then pick Archmanning or car or sellers or whoever you want. Malik Willis is going to get to like six wins.

And then you get back to the middle, which is like the worst place to be because you don't pick high. I am, I am genuinely interested in. Malik Willis. I am too. Yeah. I think it's interesting. I just remember, his agent is going to be putting out stuff to reporters. Oh, 35 mil for sure. Yeah, look at the market. Who's he competing with? Like, all that's agent-driven. I think the reality could be a little different. All right, nice job this week. It is a slower time of the year, but I thought our staff

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