The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd-HOUR-3-Chris Spielman

Episode Date: August 18, 2020

Chris Spielman joins the final hour to talk the negative effect missing a full season could do to potential NFL prospects. Also College players may be being a bit more responsible dealing with Covid-1...9 due to the pressure of letting their respective teams down. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:32 Go to Loz.com. I just finished my bar cart. Used it last night. Had a little mini party at the house last night. There's two people. There's no big deal. You got to stay active. You got to keep moving, Joy.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Then I told them to be quiet because I had to watch an hour of NBA. I set the rules at the house. It's one of those unwritten rules. Oh, my God. Enough with these unwritten rules. Chris Spielman, do you know he's the first high school athlete to have his picture on the box of Wheaties? Forget the fact that he's a college, All-American, a Hall of Famer, and then he played in the NFL for a decade and was a four-time all-pro pro.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I think the Wheaties thing is pretty darn good. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Isn't it? He's joining us now from Columbus, Ohio, home of the Buckeyes, great college football program. So Justin Fields, I said the other day, I said, man, if I'm Justin Fields, I'm not sure if I want to play in January, February, March, and then turn around and have a combine in the draft, I'm not sure. he goes out and does a petition, so obviously he's all in. What did you make of the petition by Justin Fields?
Starting point is 00:03:33 It kind of caught me off guard because if he would have opted out, I would have totally understood. Well, I would have understood it too. And if I'm Ryan Day, I would never ask Justin Fields to be part of a season that's in the spring or the winter because I wouldn't want to jeopardize his future. But I think, you know, the players are finding their voice
Starting point is 00:03:50 and Justin decided to use his voice and his stature within the game of college football to take a stand for something that not only he believes in, but many college football players believe, and especially in the Pack 12 and the Big Ten. Yeah. You know, what do you make a spring football, Chris? You were a very physical guy.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Like, I can justify it. I could say, okay, we're going to play January, February, first week of March, no spring ball, light, cardio-only summer workouts, then fall and football. That feels right for a 20-year-old athlete. Your body recovers quickly. but you tell me, could you play January, February, early March, and then play again in September? I think it's smart for the FCS schools and maybe some of the non-power-five conferences to try to pull off some type of spring schedule.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I think if you're talking about a program like Ohio State or Penn State or Michigan and you have guys that are interested in playing in the NFL, I would advise against it. I just think that's a lot of football to play pads in over an eight-month period. You know, the problem that they have, Colin, is you think about it. If you don't play a game since 2019, the next game you play in, a real game where there's action and other guys hitting you from other teams is going to be in an NFL training camp. You're going to be behind those guys from the SEC, the ACC, the ACC, and the Big 12 that hopefully will have a chance to play this year. Yeah. You know, I said this. My daughter, although athletic kid, is a non-college athlete,
Starting point is 00:05:26 I would feel better if she room with a college athlete because I know they're getting tested four times a week. Whereas the average college student, I don't trust them as much. I think there's a certain peer pressure when you're part of an athletic team to support your teammates and your coaches and be more responsible. I think the average college athlete is more responsible than the average college student. Is that a bunch of hooey or do you buy that? Well, I'm actually living it as a parent. My daughter, Macy, is a basketball player at Bowling Green. I couldn't wait for her to get up to Bowling Green,
Starting point is 00:05:58 but I just would watch her behavior around the house and the responsibility that she was taking, not necessarily to protect us, although I'd like to think so, protect Dad, you know, but I think to protect her teammates and a responsibility that she felt toward them being her best. And so she would eat dinner in a separate room, even though she didn't have to. She would wear a mask around the house.
Starting point is 00:06:19 even though we were COVID-free around here. But she did it out of respect for her teammates. And she understood the concept of sacrifice and what you give will grow and what you keep you lose. She's been brought up and trained with that mindset that it's always about the team. I just love that. I love to hear that story.
Starting point is 00:06:39 That's good parenting, isn't it? Yeah, no, I mean, but it's funny. You know, this is the argument I've made with Joy was an athlete. And I do think a college athlete is more responsible. because you feel a peer pressure. You don't want to let your teammates down. You don't want to let your coaches down. I mean, you know, kids like to make their mentors and their parents happy most of the time.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And I think there's a real pressure there that kids, athletic kids, live by. And your daughter is a great point of that. Now, I want to shift to the NFL. You live in Ohio. I've been tough on Baker Mayfield. The other day, he admitted, he said, I lost myself. I didn't get a workout as much. And should I take that as maturity?
Starting point is 00:07:18 or should I say, good Lord, he lost himself in year two. How do you lose your side? I get year 12, year two. What do I take from Baker's comments? Well, I think he's been humbled, right? And I think the other thing that has stunned at Baker Mayfield's growth as a quarterback is he's going to be in his third offense in three years. But if it is true, what he's saying, if his actions back up his words, I do think he has a talent.
Starting point is 00:07:45 and he has the number one physical attribute that I look in the quarterback. I don't know what everybody else is, but mine is accuracy. And he certainly has some weapons to throw the ball too and a pretty good running back when healthy and Nick Chubb. So everybody wants big, I want banker to do well. I root for all these guys. But you have to be, if you want to be great at that position, you have to be Tom, in my opinion, you have to be Tom Brady, where you've got to commit totally to being an NFL quarterback, not just during the season or not just during no TAs, but that's a 365-year-day marriage right there every year.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You've got to commit to being your best every single day. That's the responsibility of a quarterback to a football team. You know, Brady is, Russell Wilson and Brady to me live that life. Drew, I remember one time I was at ESPN and it was like June, and I'm working out in the gym and Drew Breezes next to me. And he's on the air in about an hour and I'm like, aren't you on the air? And he's like, I've got to get a workout in. And I'm like, you got your Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Like you're like 38 years old. Did you ever play with a guy in the NFL? And I know you were committed. But did you ever play with a guy that had some Brady qualities where you were like, oh, my God. Like he lives it. Day, night, family. How many guys are like that?
Starting point is 00:09:01 I think probably I would say 30%. But a lot of them are the quarterbacks because they understand the value to the team in the position that they play. just because I was like that and maybe 20 or 30% of the other guys were like that, there's more than one ways to get it done. But for me, I knew what worked for me. I know if I wanted to have my play at the highest level possible, I had to commit 365 days a year to being the best possible linebacker that I could be. If I did not do that, then I was not living up to the standard that I set for myself
Starting point is 00:09:39 or that I set for my teammates. And I promise them that commitment. And I might have not have been the most liked guy on the team calling, but I guarantee you I was one of the most respected because I never changed. Yeah. You know, speaking of not being liked, you know, I see these old NFL films and Aikman's barking at guys and Peyton Manning's barking it guys. And it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:01 There's been some reports that Cam Newton, you know, was not barked at in Carolina. And Bella checks a barker. And, you know, Tom Brady could deal with it. Tim Duncan could deal with it. A lot of people don't want to be yelled at in front of their teammates. And I've said this before. I know people inside that Carolina organization, and they told me, Cam is tough.
Starting point is 00:10:22 He plays hurt all the time. But criticism publicly may not be great. Did you play your thoughts about Cam in New England and that situation? And did you play with guys who were more sensitive? Public criticism from the coach didn't land right. Yeah. I think Cam is a unique. story because Cam is at a crossroads. And so what worked for Cam before may not work for Cam now.
Starting point is 00:10:48 So Cam may be open to being coached differently. From my own personal experience, Wayne Fonce would threaten to send me home on a bus if I would touch your head, Barry Sanders in practice again. And Wayne Fons and I are from the same hometown and he played against my dad. So I get all that. But I think Cam right now is all he wants to do is to get better. And if players, and this is, you know, This is a pet peeve of mine. And kids today, if we lessen and not hold players and even children that are athletes or high school players that are football players or basketball players, if we don't hold them to the standard that they set that we are doing a disservice. My opinion of Cam, he's an MVP quality type guy, but can he come back from the injuries? And I think Cam understands that this is my shot.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And if Belichick's going to yell at me, he can yell at him. he can yell at me all he wants because all I want to do is win and certainly Bill Belichick has that track record of winning Super Bowls. You know, it is interesting. Cam's been beat up physically and again, he's played through a lot of injuries. If I recall, you had a neck injury where you basically couldn't play. When you get to be an older player, you still want to play in the games. It is interesting because I got some old quarterbacks here.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And the reason they've lasted is because they haven't gotten hurt a lot. for the average, I saw Gerald McCoy is now going to be out for the year. When you're 33, 34, you're getting older and you're playing NFL football. Does your body tell you it's over or do you have to be talked into it? Like you were, I think, more severe. Your neck injury was more severe. But you saw a lot of guys that just dropped out that could have played. What is the psychology for a camera, an older player, that's taking a lot of hits?
Starting point is 00:12:35 The psychology for me came from our great philosopher of our time, Bill Lamb, When Bill Lambert retired, Bill Lambert said, I am despising myself. I don't want to become the player that I despise. So if you're intellectually honest with yourself and you're watching film of yourself, you know what you're doing well and you know what you're not going well. So that's when you have to make an individual choice and decision. Am I just hanging on to hang on or I got to be honest and I can't do it anymore? So I think a lot of guys go through that within themselves and emotionally to make that decision.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And once they accept reality, usually guys make the right decision based on the fact that they don't want to become a player that they despise. A lot of guys quit the NFL and they don't lift weights anymore. You look like you still lift weights. You still lift? Well, yeah, I'm a big health fanatic. I mean, you know a little bit about my family's history and I want my kids to be healthy. and if at all possible to stay as live a healthy lifestyle. So like anything, Colin, I need my actions need to solidify my words.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You know, I'm not going to go tell my daughter to get in there and give me 10 miles on a Peloton if I haven't done 10 miles myself. And so I think that's the way, in my opinion, that's one way to lead that your action solidify your words. You know, that's why I don't buy a Peloton because then I would have to be. Exactly. Yeah. So I just avoid it. that Peloton thing from the very beginning. Chris Spielman, Fox Sports NFL analysts. Great seeing you. Look great. Thanks for coming on.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Oh, thank you, brother. Anytime. I appreciate you having me. Thank you. Chris Spielman. Awesome stuff. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way,
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Starting point is 00:18:16 Congratulations, Fernando. Nope, everyone's mad about it. He swung at a 3-0 pitch while his team had a seven-run lead over the Rangers in the eighth inning. After the game, the Rangers manager, Chris Woodward said he did not like it. He said baseball norms are being challenged on a game. a daily basis. Norms. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Norms, that's progressive. San Diego's manager, Jay Singler, wasn't thrilled with the move either, saying Tatis missed a sign to take the pitch, and he will use this as a learning experience. Yeah, no more grand slams. So he violated an unwritten rule.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Are there unwritten rules in broadcasting? Don't swear on the air, but that's... That's not an unwritten, that's an actual rule. That's an actual rule. Goulet, what's an unwritten rule of producing this marvelous show? I mean, here's the thing. It's not Little League, right? If you're a pro, you play to win.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And get paid and deliver. Stop them from winning. Don't these guys have bonuses in their contracts for home runs and RBIs and batting average? There's just no lead that is too big in the pros. It's nonsense. It's like the idea that you're running up the score. There's no running up the score in anything that's professional. You get paid to do that.
Starting point is 00:19:28 If you don't like it, stop them. You can barely get baseball players to follow actual rules. and you want to enforce this code of unwritten rules. Here's what's amazing. For 10 years, you were taking cattle steroids, and you were good with it, and you defended it, but the unwritten rule is the one that crosses the line.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Oh, no, then you got to throw at them. You got to keep them in line. No unwritten rules is the way we play this game. When did baseball become like this king's sport? I love baseball, but this is nonsense. It doesn't make any sense. Make it make sense, Colin. It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Well, to me, baseball has an individual tenor to it. Like it does matter. You can get bonuses for saves and wins. And we monitor innings pitched and RBIs. The kid hit a jack. He may end up hitting a bonus off that. Like, get him out.
Starting point is 00:20:17 It's not his problem. It's not his problem. Stop being fun suckers. Can we just enjoy the young talents and excitement and fun? Remember the Major League Baseball, Rob Manfred, to his credit. They did a commercial. Let the kids play or let us play. Let the kids play.
Starting point is 00:20:33 That was the commercial in the offseason for baseball. And why did they do that? Because Rob Madford was sending a signal, lighten up Brian McCann, the catcher, formerly the Braves and Yankees is like standing at home played if you stare at your home run. Brian McCain, you're not good enough to do that. Like you're not a good enough player to dictate what I can do after I jack it out. Cairs. Why do you care about this?
Starting point is 00:20:54 There's a way to play the game. It's just, look, I understand. I get the concept of it, right? Because when you learn how to play baseball, you learn how to play baseball, you learn as a baby almost. Like you're playing t-ball. You're literally still a baby. So you want to teach kids
Starting point is 00:21:07 the values of sports, right? And integrity. And then you grow up and then you realize if you're not first, you're last. So we're grown-ups now. We're adults. You're getting a paycheck. So just play the game.
Starting point is 00:21:19 You play to win the game. There's a way to host a show. There's a way to play the game. It's on one way. It's a very romantic sport. I get it. But once you put a paycheck on romance, it's dead. So let's just enjoy the game.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'm pretty sure that's how it works. That was almost like deep and stuff. Thank you. You put a paycheck on love or what was that again? Once you put a paycheck on romance, it's dead. Where did you get that? It's a very romantic sport. I came up with it myself.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I put a lot of thought into this unwritten rule nonsense. I hate every single part of it. I'm so over it. I thought what's that song? You better put a ring on it. That's different than a paycheck. Put a ring on it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:58 No, that's a couple paychecks. That's an investment. So first year head coach Joe Judge is taking in old school approach to how he's running Giants camp. He's making players and coaches run laps whenever mistakes are made. Love it. Saying there needs to be consequences so we learn how to deal with our mistakes. God, I hated this. Can I tell you something I hate about football?
Starting point is 00:22:19 So in high school, this is, I don't like this. I'll tell you why. So I was a quarterback in high school, not very good. So in high school, if anybody jumped off sides, you'd have to run a lap. The whole team. Seems like a really good use of time. Some idiot left guard. So instead of doing audibles and having a more complex cadence,
Starting point is 00:22:39 I simplified it because the idiot at left guard that kept jumping offside because I got tired of running 12 laps of practice. So the coach thought, oh, it creates. No, what it created was I simplified down set hike. I didn't want guys jumping off sides. So my thing is if you jump off sides in football, you're the moron. You run.
Starting point is 00:22:57 The whole offense shouldn't have to run. Yeah, so yeah, I think he's making individual. I'm for the individual. Making the whole team run is not a good use of your practice time. If Goulet screws up another interview, why should I have to run a lap around the building at Fox? No, so we can't have to do some basketball practice. Like, if you make a mistake, you know, you got to run sprints and whatever. Sterling Shepard joke that the last time he had to run laps as a penalty was probably in middle school.
Starting point is 00:23:20 But he's embracing the change. You know, Joe Judge is a very like, he's a football guy. Yeah. He's like run through a wall guy. You remember his opening press conference. Very lot of. It was like every football cliche that's. ever been spoken. But I like it, though. Like, you do need to establish a culture. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I'm not mad at it. I don't think it's a good use of time to make everybody run. But Brian Flores is pretty intense, too. Like, if you, these pellet, these Belichekian guys. No, you have to have a standard. And I'm with it. No mistakes. Like, if you, if you start making excuses for mistakes and they become comfortable and a normal part, and that's what you're trying to get away from. So I go back to that thing you said about romance and money. What was that again? What was that? Once you put, I don't even remember what I said now. Once you put a paycheck on. It was a Now I forgot it. On romance, romance, romance is dead.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Once you put a price tag on romance, romance is dead. I got to think a lot about that. Baseball is a romantic sport. Once you start getting paid for it, I don't want to hear about unwritten rules. Very, this is like a philosophy class. It's not even sports. To win the game. So LeBron is building up the hype for his space jam sequel.
Starting point is 00:24:20 The film is not set to be released until summer of 2021, but he gave fans a sneak peek of what the new Tune Squad uniforms will look like yesterday. They are quite different than the original. It looks like the old ABA, like the Florida team. They look like who was that hockey team that had those. Oh, Vancouver Canucks. Yeah, right? That was where the ugliest? Not really, but like, I don't know why I just reminded me of that.
Starting point is 00:24:46 The Houston Astros in the 70s and the Vancouver Canucks until about 15 years ago had the most heinous uniforms ever. There's just a lot of color in these. I don't know if I think it could use a little more balance. I actually don't hate them. No, I don't. It's different. The internet was freaking out because everything is different. Everything's awful.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Look, the original Tune Squad uniforms were not great. Okay, there's not a whole lot going on on those ones. But I'm like, you've seen Space Jam, right? No. I've never seen a taxi driver. I've never seen that either. I've never seen Space Jam and I didn't watch a lot of karate kid. everybody watched those except me.
Starting point is 00:25:28 So you've never seen any of the karate kids. No. I know who was in it. Was it Scott Bayo or something like that? Ralph Machio. I didn't watch, I was not into it. Bill Simmons watched everyone six times.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I feel like you should watch, you should watch Space Jam. What am I going to get out of it? I mean, it's just like it's kind of a part of sports culture of Space Jam. Isn't it bad? I love Space Jam. I probably seen Space Jam like 30 times. Goulet, is it any good?
Starting point is 00:25:52 I mean, as an adult, no. Yeah, no, you're not going to enjoy it as an adult probably. It's a kid's move. I'm gonna watch mine hunting. So that's why I'm interested, like, I was really not sure about this, this reboot. I'm starting to soften towards it now. Like, I know everyone's freaking out about how bad these uniforms are for the new Tunes Squad. I don't actually hate them that much.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Everything now is every, you do a second, a sequel to everything now. But I just don't, do kids watch Bugs Bunny? Like, I knew who Bugs Bunny was. My son watched cartoons when he was a kid. Yeah, kids watch cartoons. Because I wonder if this new Space Jam is going to be, like from my age demographic, who actually watched the original Space Jam? Or is it going to be for young kids?
Starting point is 00:26:29 I don't know. By the way, there's only been one cartoon. There's only one or two cartoons. John, you know the cartoon I watched. Johnny Quest. It all ends. Johnny Quest. If there was one cartoon, Johnny Quest, that wasn't even a cartoon.
Starting point is 00:26:43 That was real life. That's an important part of Colin Cowherd Trivia that I got there. Johnny Quest. That was a documentary. It was a morning Saturday documentary. That was real life. The one-eyed spider and the, oh, the castles. the pirate ships.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Cartoons used to be really, really great. Yeah, they were real. They were really great. I don't know how accurate. How much they all hold up. In my part of the country, they were real. Joy, in the news. Well, that's the news.
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Starting point is 00:28:21 One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week, within the IHeart radio app. Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th.
Starting point is 00:29:08 You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand-new podcast. The Clifford Show.
Starting point is 00:29:23 This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?
Starting point is 00:30:15 Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.
Starting point is 00:30:41 So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing. And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Kear Gaines,
Starting point is 00:31:52 as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Back by popular demand. Actually, nobody demanded it, but we loved it. The face bracket.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Now, we nailed it this year with Mahomes. What we do is we pick the games and we just take the best player. We don't talk about coaching, bench. We just take the best player in every series and his face. And then we move through it. It's just the best player. It doesn't matter about anything else, the best player. So let's play our face bracket NBA playoffs time.
Starting point is 00:32:35 So first round, it's LeBron against Dane. Well, LeBron's 52 and 10 career in the first round. He's a much bigger athlete. He's better defensively. And this year he led the NBA and assists. LeBron wins that face. He's the best face there. Harden Chris Paul.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I love Chris Paul, but it's a three-man's game. Hardin's great at it. Hardin has won three straight scoring titles. He's a more dangerous offensive weapon, though I love as a pure point, Chris Paul. Then it's Jokic over Donovan Mitchell. Jokic and the Nuggets were 4-0 against the Jazz this year, and Yokic absolutely lit him up.
Starting point is 00:33:10 30 a game, 11 assists. By the way, Will Chamberlain is the only center with 500 plus assists in a year. Yokic is doing something all time. He's what they call a point center. And as much as I like Donovan Mitchell last night, Yokic, I think, makes everybody on that team better. I'm not sure Donovan makes,
Starting point is 00:33:29 I'm not even sure if he can go bear get along anymore. Janus, over the, yeah. Oh, no, my bad. Kauai over Luca. All you need to know is this. When Kauai played for the Clippers this year, they were 42 and 16. They were a 500 team without it.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Not that close. Let's go to the Eastern Conference. Janice and Nicola, what's his last name again? Nevisovich. Yeah, that's not close. I mean, Janus is the first player to score 29, 13, 8.5 rebounds since Wilt. That's not real close. By the way, Orlando is leading Milwaukee in this game.
Starting point is 00:34:09 By the way, half. Then Butler and T.J. Warren. it should be noted that T.J. Warren got shut down by the Miami Heat this year. T.J. Warren was not good against Miami this year. That goes to Jimmy Butler. T.J. Warren averaged 10 points a game and one assists against the heat. So Jimmy Butler's the better player there. I'm going to take Tatum over Embed. Physically he's better. He shoots the three ball, and that's what the league is right now. He's the youngest Celtic, by the way, ever. 30 plus points, 10 plus rebounds in a playoff game. And I can just depend on him.
Starting point is 00:34:40 I also think he's an ascending player. I think Embed is what he is. I think I get a more committed player who can score more ways with Tatum. And then I'm going to take Seyakum over Lavert, Pascal Seyakum, career high. There's an ascending player. He averaged 22.5 career high, seven and a half rebounds, seven and a half rebounds career high, assess three and a half. Sayakum's like better every year in every category.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So he's about a year away from being like high-level all-state. start. Second round, LeBron over Hardin. LeBron's a much better defensive player. He's a bigger, stronger athlete. He's also led the NBA and assists. Hardin elevates Hardin. LeBron elevates everybody. Kauai over Yokic. Kauai against the Nuggets this year, it was a monster. Clippers had a winning record against them. And again, I think Kauai's ability to defend everybody makes him a transformative player. He stopped Janus last year. Kauai is a defensive player
Starting point is 00:35:39 is a demon. He's a great get a stop guy. Then I'll take Yonis over Butler. You know, I don't think he's the great rim protector. He's a wing offensive player, but defensively, he'll shut you down. He's more consistently great on the defensive end, so I take Yonis over Butler. Do I take Tatum over Saiochum?
Starting point is 00:36:10 He's a better long-range shooter. It's very close. It's very close. They're both emerging. And I do love Tatum, so I'm going to be loyal to me. Well, I love Tatum, so I'm just going to be loyal to me on this. Tatum still has bad games, but I think he can put the ball in the deck. So now here's our conference NBA face bracket.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Okay, I'm not talking most valuable. That's not what I'm talking here. Who is better defensively, Kauai or LeBron? Kauai, it's not close. Who is a guaranteed bucket late in the game? I think it's Kauai is the best. Get a bucket, get a stop player currently in the NBA. I'm not talking value.
Starting point is 00:36:52 LeBron's more valuable because Kauai can miss a game and the Clippers would still have a winning record. If LeBron didn't play, I'm not sure the Lakers are a playoff team. And then Yonis over Tatum, he's more consistently dominant, especially on the defensive end. And then I'm going to take Kauai over Yonis because I saw him play last year. Kauai has more ways to score than Yannis. I saw Kauai dominate the matchup when he was with Toronto last year.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And my face bracket has Kauai Leonard. Now, it's funny because you know I love LeBron. Right. So are you saying Kauai is a better player than the ball? Kauai is the best. Get a bucket. Get a stop player in his prime. Kauai is better defensively.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Kaui is in his athletic prime. Kauai is not the distributor. He doesn't have the gravitas of LeBron. But I will say this. if basketball in the playoffs is situational. Kauai right now to me is the best situational basketball player in the world. I need two points. Kauai is my choice.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I need to stop. I'm not sure LeBron could stop Hardin. Or I'm not sure he could. Kauai can stop Yonis, Syakum, Tatum, everybody. And by the way, LeBron has struggled against the clippers. Kauai own the clippers this year. That's my face bracket. Dumb as it is, there it is. Lowe's, do it yourself project.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Go to Lowe's.com. Loos.com. Do it yourself. My bar cart is officially finished. Speak for yourself. The fellas all geared up. Coming up next. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down,
Starting point is 00:39:46 and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:40:06 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not
Starting point is 00:40:27 only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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