The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Dana White in studio!

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

UFC President & CEO Dana White joins the show to talk about the upcoming Canelo vs Crawford boxing match and why Mark Zuckerberg is one of the most impressive people he has ever metSee omnystudio....com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:24 You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, Dana White is around. the corner, but first, J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Let's start with your boy, Bo Nix, who had a brutal week one. I mean, listen, I don't want to hammer the guy too hard, but he turned it over three times
Starting point is 00:02:49 and looked pedestrian. Sean Peyton knows sometimes it's just about getting through week one. I thought he hung in there. He battled, made some critical place for us in the second half. And so obviously he'll be disappointed with the turnovers, but, you know, there was a gutsy performance, you know, and we got a pretty usual week one. For the record, one of the interceptions was a throw to Cortland Sutton. It was just a great play by the DB. Oh, stop.
Starting point is 00:03:21 It was a great play. It was a go-either-way play. Not every interception is a terrible decision. Are you seeing this line? Come on. Broncos? Colts? How are the Broncos Underdogs here? They're a playoff team.
Starting point is 00:03:34 The Colts are garbage. What am I missing? No, Broncos is my second favorite number on the board. Bo Nix is not losing to this Colts defense. It confounded to a No, no. I think Broncos body bagged Colts here. Well, I think they beat them, but not every
Starting point is 00:03:50 Daniel Jones. Not every interception is a bad throw. Brock Purdy has had throws. I mean, not just throw Brock Purdy up. queue up the fumble? Do we wear a little bit of deep pants? No, I'm saying, but not every turnovers, I mean, a terrible throat. Bow Nicks, one of the picks, was a throw to Cortland Sutton and was a jump ball.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Can you apply that to Brock Puddy, please? His winning touchdown, by the way, as you said was an anticipatory throw. There was nobody open. Let's move on to another AFC West team. The Raiders, they beat the Patriots, but the bad news was Brock Bowers went down early with a knee injury. Pete Carroll just said at the podium, they're taking it day to day, but it helps them that they have a Monday night football match up with the Raiders against the Chargers on Monday Night Football. So that's an extra day for Brock Bowers. They listen, they need him, Colin, if they want to take down the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Well, there's an argument. He's the best tied-in right now in his prime in football. Wow. Well, I mean, who's better? He's only a second-year tight end. He is an un-b-b... When you can spread a tight end out in the slot and he can beat corners, Has it better than Kelsey?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Right now, yes, absolutely. If I can dig the Chiefs, I will. Final story, Colin, is the Seattle Seahawks lost to the Niners in a tough one? Your boy, Sam Darnold, fumbling late. The only bright spot on the offense was Jackson Smith, the Jigba, who was everywhere. He actually tried to throw a lateral, which was wild. Mike McDonald said the rest of the offense definitely needs to step up their game. Jack's made a lot of great plays.
Starting point is 00:05:26 There's more opportunities for him out there, which I'm sure he'll tell you. And we're going to count on everybody, you know, see who else steps up so we can, it's not the Jack show every snap. I will say this. If you didn't watch the game, Seattle was driving in the red zone for the win and Darnold bangs into his own player. Also, they had the most pressures week one. Seattle was the best team. Well, I would say Baltimore is probably the best team that lost. I thought Seattle looked really good.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Colin, they had 230 yards of offense. What is good about that against our rebuilt Niners defense? First of all, they're rebuilding. they rebuilt. Saul is a great defensive coordinator, and they were rebuilding their receiving court. So, like, not everybody in week one is week eight performer. The Cooper Cup was terrible at a couple drops. They just don't have any offense outside of J.S.N. and Kenneth Walker. A.J. Brown, Philadelphia to Seattle?
Starting point is 00:06:18 No, I mean, why not? Although they just moved off a very dramatic, expensive wide receiver. Any thoughts on Seahawks at Steelers? I would take Seattle plus three. I'm in agreement there, total. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Well, he has been one of the mavericks in sports, certainly in the last 20 years. UFC president and CEO. He's now so iconic. He's doing Dodge Ram commercials. I saw that last night. Our friend Dana White is joining us here on a Tuesday in the Herd long time, no talk. It's great to see you again. And you've made your son.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Most of these commissioners, you don't really want to hear from them that much, but you're out there, you put yourself out there with any, all the time. It could be politics. It could be sports. It could be football. I would imagine it's been good for your business. Yeah. Business is good.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Yeah. This is very good. So your entire, in my entire life, boxing's been pay-per-view. You now have a deal with Paramount where you're like, listen, we're going to move off from what I can tell, the pay-per-view model. I like that for the fans. My takeaway is finally somebody rewards the fans. I buy your pay-per-views all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:30 They were about $65, something like that. I also go to your fights. But when you made that decision, it's counter to what boxing and UFC has been my entire life, which is mostly pay-per-view stuff for the big stuff. Why the decision, and is there any risk to it? Well, the world is changing now. I mean, you know, all these streaming services,
Starting point is 00:07:48 here's the thing about a streaming service. You can have tons of great programming. I can go watch it whenever I want to. Right. But live sports, you have to tune in at a certain time. And I was waiting for the moment. I knew that they were all eventually going to need live sports. Now you see them doing deals with the NFL, NBA, and now us. It's just been an evolution, you know, as cable continues to, you know, nose dive.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah, I mean, so you are now doing, you're promoting your first boxing match. Now, we talked about this before. you grew up in Boston. I was a boxing guy in Vegas. You now live in Vegas. So my first job out of college was in Vegas. I watched Hagler-Herns. I was a Pacific Northwest kid. I moved to Vegas. I fell in love with boxing. I knew I watched Ali or you'd hear stuff as a kid, but we didn't really have boxing, you know, where I grew up. You were a boxing fan. And I always kind of waited for you. My takeaway was, I would argue you kind of ended boxing, and then you create TKO, and you go into boxing. So is that telling me that boxing still has a life. Yeah. I mean, every time you think that boxing's dead,
Starting point is 00:08:58 a big fight will pop up again. But, you know, it's every once on a blue moon. I mean, we at the UFC, we go every Saturday,
Starting point is 00:09:05 pretty much every Saturday all year. And boxing is, you know, here and there. So I'm promoting this Crawford fight this weekend.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Probably the best fight in five to six years. I would say, Canella Alvra is the fighter of his generation. He's a four division champion. Yep. Never been knocked down. I agree. I love this fight. And the fact that Crawford is willing to risk moving up and wait to fight him. I mean, this is, if you're a fight fan,
Starting point is 00:09:34 this is the stuff you love. Crawford's never lost, tough childhood, been willing to put on weight. Again, he's a knockout guy. 76% of his fights are knockouts. This is as good as boxing. To me, in the last five years, this is probably the best fight. I agree. I think it's the best fight. I love this fight. I forgot where the hell I was going with that, but yeah. What is the difference promoting UFC and boxing? No real difference. I mean, you know, as long as you're putting up, oh, that's why I'm doing the Canelo Crawford fight for Shake Turkey. Then in 26, I'm going to start my own, I guess we call a league and boxing. Basically, what I want to do is I want to build talent. Like tonight, I have a show on called The Contender
Starting point is 00:10:19 series, which I absolutely love Tuesday nights. I take the best unsigned guys in the world. They face each other that night, and I decide who gets a UFC contract. And basically, that's what I want to do with boxing, too. I want to take these up-and-coming guys, you know, 10-0, 12-and-0, and a 10-and-0 fights a 12-and-0. Like the undercard of Canello versus Crawford, the undercard is excellent. Like the UFC, when, you know, people show up for the first fight of the night, not just the main event. It's going to be that kind of a fight this weekend in Vegas. So the whole undercard
Starting point is 00:10:54 is incredible, not just the main event. Well, Nick Kahn, who you know very well, and you, Dana White, both are in the business of accumulating talent and finding guys before the rest of the market moves. I have a little podcast company. We do the same thing. It's exhilarated. There's nothing better than share somebody's ride.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I agree. It's just unbelievable. So when you, it's interesting, like a lot of times on TikTok, I go to lot of business guys. Yourself, Jeff Bezos, it can be a Mark, I think it's Andresner Anderson. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And really smart guys, Mark Zuckerberg. I'm looking for, I guess, the thread among successful business people. This is the thread I always hear. Amazon didn't make money the first 20 years. Is that I don't think people understand. You had a lot of headwinds. I mean, at one point, UFC, John McCain, wanted it off cable. and I always look at your rise,
Starting point is 00:11:50 and I don't think people understand how hard it is. Was there ever a time in your rise that the head went, you had the fratitas behind you? Was there ever a time, though, that you woke up and thought, is this thing going to work? Am I going to get a week of good news? What was the point that was hardest for Dana White? I always thought it was going to work, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:12 just as the timing right was the question. And there is a time. Lorenzo called me one day and said, I can't keep doing this. I can't keep pumping this money into this thing. Go out and see what we could sell this for. So I started calling around that day, and I came back to him that night and said, yeah, probably $7 or $8 million. And we were probably $40 million in at that time. Maybe $30-something million.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I don't remember exactly what that was. How did you convince him to stay in? I didn't. I just told him that. And he said, okay, I'll call you tomorrow. He literally called me the next morning when I was driving to work and said, F it. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. So we did, and, you know, thank God, here we are today.
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Starting point is 00:17:04 Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, no, it's been pretty remarkable. When you look at right now at UFC, I've always thought the hardest thing in your job. And I don't know if there's any luck involved, but finding the next John Jones, who I think is the best fighter I've ever seen in UFC. I would say probably pound for pound, probably the best? In my opinion, yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:37 You know, as you look at boxing and where it is now, everybody's undefeated, right? They have all these guys that are undefeated because they won't fight anybody. Now, in the UFC, whatever division you ran, you fought the toughest guys all the way up to become a world champion. And John Jones did that for the last however many years, and he's still undefeated. So, yes. So when you, and I've asked you this before, but I think it's compelling, and I think you're going to find this in boxing. boxing feels and UFC feels to me so global. Is there ever a moment when is there talent a plenty?
Starting point is 00:18:19 Is it just for Dana White to find it? Or are there cycles where, like, it's dry, that you go six months and you can't find talent? No, I wouldn't say that. And especially if the sport gets bigger, you know, there's more and more people that realize now they can make millions of dollars. fighting. Right. So, yeah, there was a point in time, there was a point in time when that was the case, but not now. There's plenty of talent out there. You know, it's interesting. You used to come to California all the time. We barely get you out here anymore. There's a lot of people that we were just talking about that. I was just talking about that with my crew when we were coming in.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah, well, I mean, it's a different time. There's a lot of pushback. There's a lot of things happening in the country where when you embrace Trump that's your audience I've been to UFC fights I've been there twice when he's there people love him they go crazy did you ever worry when you did this we're such a tribal polarizing country this could be bad for business did you ever worry for a minute about that well Trump and I have been friends for you know 25 years so it's not like oh yeah that's right you it's not like I was getting political and and you know choosing a side or any that's guys my friend he's been my friend forever. So it wasn't really that way for me. And he's a huge UFC fan. And he came to the
Starting point is 00:19:39 UFC before he even thought about running for president. He would be at the events and held the events at the Taj Mahal and New Jersey. So this guy is just a person who's been a friend of mine for a long time. And he's a huge fan of not just UFC, but a fighting period. I mean, all the big fights he held at the Taj and Atlantic City back in the day. Yeah, it wasn't really a political move for me. You have you and Trump have something in common. You don't sleep much. You're a live concert, live event, moving
Starting point is 00:20:10 all the time. There's almost an innate energy with you that you, this is who you are. Were you always this guy? Were you always like burn 24? You're like a human red bull. Was it always like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, I can tell you this, though. He's 79 years old. He's way worse than me. He never sleeps ever. I mean, this guy will call me at night and it's two o'clock in the morning on the East Coast and he'll hit me again in the morning and he's up already. He never sleeps. It's crazy. I'll get four or five hours a night and I'm good. I saw a guy on Joe Rogan saying anybody that tells you that they sleep four or five hours a night, they're full of crap. No, dude, you're full of crap. I literally sleep four or five hours a night and I can tell you right now,
Starting point is 00:21:02 Trump sleeps less. By the way, my staff can, I take magnesium when I go to bed because I'm a lousy sleeper. Five hours, maybe five and a half, I can't, my eyes are wide open. I can't, I can't sleep anymore. So whatever it is, it is. I'm with you. You are having a White House UFC, is it next summer? Yeah. Okay, so the security, this is interesting, because I had a friend once that was number one at Air Force. And I think it was Reagan spoke. He goes, you cannot believe the security with the president. You don't even understand what it's like. Literally one minute before dinner, they changed all the glasses in case there was poisoning.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And he said, so my take it was, this is a big event. You're going to have a president there. You already have to plan that now? I mean, how far in advance? So we went to the White House last week, me and my team, and we had the first meeting with them where we laid out all the renderings and we started to get him to sign off on what he likes and doesn't like and he loved it. So, yeah, now we're diving in headfirst.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Now all the work starts. But you're right. This is the first time, this last time I was with the White House, I went up on the roof of the White House, and they got snipers with 50 cows all over the roof of the White House. And it's pretty crazy. But yes, I mean, the security is going to be a massive issue. Because at the end of the day, Secret Service's job is to protect
Starting point is 00:22:29 the president. And I don't know how it's going to work out as far as having people there live on the lawn of the White House. It'll be under 5,000 though. But there's a, you can't remember what they call it. There's a park that's connected to the White House. We could put 85,000 people over there with screens and, you know, we're going to put a big stage out there and do concerts. And we're going to take over Washington, D.C. that whole week. So when you, you know, this fight, this weekend's Allegiant. Okay. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And I think ideally you'd like to be in Vegas. Vegas McCarran or Harry Reid Airport now. It's easy to get in. It's the weather's almost almost good. You don't have to worry about flight delays. When with the UFC, are there still states that you'd like to go in that push back? Or is the world open? Do you have a second favorite venue?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Is there a venue you've never had a fight that you're in? I mean, you took it to an island during COVID. So where is the place that you want to go that haven't, and are you still accepted virtually everywhere? Yeah, the world is wide open for UFC. We haven't been to Spain yet. I mean, this Saturday, I have two fights. I have UFC and Oce and San Antonio, Texas, which is sold out. We broke the record for the gate.
Starting point is 00:23:47 And the boxing event this weekend is the number three all-time boxing event. Number one is Mayweather Pac-Pakio. number two is McGregor Mayweather and number three is Canelo Crawford Okay, so I was at the first two I want to circle back to this because it's worth noting If you don't follow boxing
Starting point is 00:24:07 And you're sitting here thinking Saturday night The college football game you wanted to watch Was in the afternoon Canelo Averillers Has held the title in four divisions That's unheard of Most of us grew up with Ali He was a heavyweight
Starting point is 00:24:20 He wasn't going down Four different He's never been knocked out never been knocked down. But Crawford is 19-0-1 world title fights. Unbelievable story. My take on this, it may not be Hagler-Herns first round, but it will be a fairly aggressive fight.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Do you have a sense of what it will look like, and do you usually with fights? I agree. I think that, you know, Crawford has taken this fight to prove that he's, you know, one of the greatest of this generation. And I think he's going to be very aggressive. I think he's going to go after Canelo.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And, you know, Canelo is an unbelievable counterpuncher, great head movement, and powerful. I think that this fight's going to be a war. I think that it's what I love about being a part of this promotion. I think that the fight's going to be great and the whole undercard is going to be great. I think people are going to turn off their TVs on Saturday and be happy they stay at home and watch it. Which means everything to me. Yeah. No, I mean, I am a regular U.S.C. watcher, and I buy for years pay-per-view, so the Paramount
Starting point is 00:25:31 deal for me is a win. I think it's always a win. I've talked about this with broadcasters before. I don't want to be behind a pay-per-view. I mean, even there was a time Howard Stern everywhere, and then you disappear behind a wall. I mean, everybody's charged him for something. Give me something I can just turn on the TV and get. Well, I love being with the Ellisons.
Starting point is 00:25:49 You know, they're obviously very smart guys. great businessmen and very aggressive. So I'm looking forward to being in business with these guys for the next seven years. So you, when you go look at your life and your career, of all the people you've dealt with, and you've dealt with business leaders, global leaders, politicians, is, are you ever surprised? Are do any of these people, you ever meet your match?
Starting point is 00:26:16 Do you ever think to yourself, you walk out of a room and think, man, if I could hire that guy, I would hire that guy. because you're dealing with industry leaders, a lot of alphas, very aggressive people. I mean, when's the last time you were blown away? Well, let me tell you this. I got the answer to that question. So Mark Zuckerberg reached out to me and asked me to be on the board of META. Now, I would never imagine that I would want to be on the board of anything.
Starting point is 00:26:41 But when you look at META as a business and as a company, when you go in to one of these board meetings, and they start at like 8.30 in the morning. And first of all, the board of meta, just the people they have on there are all just absolutely brilliant and badass. And when Zuckerberg comes in and starts running this meeting, I am literally on the edge of the seat the whole time listening to, you know, what they're doing and the level that they're doing it at. It, what blew me away is that I would be so into, you know, this thing starts at 8.30 in the morning and we end at 5.30. at night, these board meetings. And he's got every minute dialed in. He knows everything about the company inside and out. His CFO. His CFO is unbelievable. She's brilliant. And she comes in and goes toe to toe with the Wall Street guys. It's absolutely fascinating. And one of my favorite things to do,
Starting point is 00:27:39 which I would never in a million years dream, I would be that into it. Well, congrats on that. You are known as an aggressive, is it poker or 21? What do you play? Well, I'm playing Baccarat these days. And you're aggressive. I'm aggressive. And you just walk in and you're going for it.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Is there any casino that has said, Dana, you're too good, there's too much money, our margins are slim? That's not that I'm too good. But what they do is I have a style where I come in and I want to bet as much. I want to bet a million dollars a hand. I'm working on it right now with MGM. MGM might actually let me do this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And one night, me and Michael Rubin. Fanatics. Yeah. So he and I together, one night only a million dollars a hand, working on that right now on that deal. Oh, were you always a risk taker? Is this just who you are? Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:36 You know, and that's who you are. So again, Allegiant, you have two events. one in San Antonio and one in Vegas. Yes. Which one needs you more? Yeah, I think they, listen, the UFC is a well-oiled machine. We go every Saturday.
Starting point is 00:28:57 What I'm looking for on Saturday night for Canelo Crawford is, you know, I can tell you right now, the television production will be amazing. It'll be perfect. It'll be great. What I'm looking for is the live event. You know, we're in a stadium, which I don't love, stadium fights because I feel like, you know, you're watching two ants fight on a matchbook. Right, right. So we have to make sure that the people do not have that experience.
Starting point is 00:29:24 They have a much better experience live. VIP, you know, you get to your seats, you know, you're ticketed and they get you right in, sit you down. I want everything to go smooth with the live event. You know, when you think about the live event, people fly in from around the world. Right. In other states, they have to get a hotel room. they bought tickets, they got to pay for the restaurants, it's expensive. So I always, it's a big deal to me that the live event, the people who show up have an amazing experience.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I went to a boxing match a few years ago and it was a horrible experience. So that's a big deal to me on Saturday. Vegas has struggled year to year, last several years. I've got my beliefs why. How does Vegas turn it around? They have not been on a good two to three year role economically. That's total BS, man. And, you know, this whole narrative right now about Vegas, Vegas is always doing well.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Vegas is booming. This weekend, there's going to be over 60,000 people coming in for this fight in Vegas. And that's just one event. You know, Bruno Mars plays there all the time. His show is great. His show is incredible, actually. And many, many other things to do in Vegas. So everybody's always counting Vegas out.
Starting point is 00:30:36 That's ridiculous. The rest of, I always say this. When I got to Vegas, I was out of college. It was like 86, 87, the rebels, Jerry Tarkhanian, Steve Wynn. You didn't have pro sports. There was a stigma that was all nonsense. I said that for years. UFC didn't exist.
Starting point is 00:30:51 There were boxing matches. It was Don King and Bob Aram. But I used to always say this, people don't understand how good of a food town it is because everything starts in Vegas. So true. It's like every great restaurant that ever franchises, and I mean the high-end stuff, if I said to you, you're going to Vegas for a weekend, you're lucky, you just got a bonus at work.
Starting point is 00:31:11 somebody's watching this that you can fly in to watch Canelo Alvarez and Crawford and you can have one meal in Vegas where would you eat? Carbone Oh the Italian place yeah it's incredible that's in incredible always consistent the services off the charts
Starting point is 00:31:29 and if you have to wait they got a great bar too it's a great restaurant I love carbones but like you know when I was growing up in Vegas and when you were there, you know, Vegas was buffets or, you know, 99-cent breakfasts and things like that. Now it's all the best restaurants in the world there. Best restaurants, the best shopping.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You know, now there's live sports there. You know, and when people are talking about Vegas, the Raiders are playing again. So, you know, all their home games are going to be sold out and packed and people coming in from all over the country. And if you're a fan of the Patriots, right, And there's an away game that you're going to go to. You're going to the Vegas away game. That's what he said for years.
Starting point is 00:32:14 100%. You're flying on Thursday. You know, have a blast. Go to the game on Sunday and then fly home. By the way, that was a, I know you were torn. Vegas against New England. Who were you rooting for? I'm not torn at all.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Okay. You're not torn at all. You know, do you know, Raeball? We've just lost Sunday to the Raiders. Do you know Vrabel? No. We know. Oh, he's a butt kicker.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Yeah, I heard. Oh, there's no nonsense with Vrabble. I heard. sharp as attack. Well, I'm close to Max Crosby, so if we're going to get beat by anybody, at least it's Max Crosby. Nobody better in the league than Max Crosby. Love him. Great guy.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Hey, congrats. We'll be watching the fight. Haven't seen you in a while. You look fantastic. Thank you, brother. You too. Yeah, we're doing okay. Back in a second.
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Starting point is 00:36:40 Thanks to Dana White, who stopped by today. We appreciate that. And Nick Wright, as always, was funny. So, you know, circling back to Caleb Williams, you know, two things are true. He has a lot of talent. And, you know, strength and movement and power arm, that throw to Roa Madunze. It was like 99 miles, you know, it was a heater. But he misses the strike zone a lot.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And I thought the more he got off script, the more he started. struggled. So again, Brian Flores and the Vikings are a way above average defense. I mean, Denver's defense is probably better. But I mean, Buffalo's isn't Philadelphia's. I thought both C.D. Lamb and George Pickens found all sorts of space in the secondary. So Minnesota could have a top two or three defense. And he was 10 for 10 in the first drive and creates problems. But, and didn't have a pick six like J.J. McCarthy did. But here's Nick Wright earlier on what he watched last night. He really struggles with the operation still.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And the getting out of the huddle, motioning guys a little too late, like the pre-snap stuff, he still looks like a rookie, and this is year two. I still believe in Caleb Williams long term, but I think it is going to be a much slower process than I had hoped. And I will say Bo Nix struggled with some. of the mechanics of the Denver offense. So, I mean, if you go look at the young guy, Drake May struggled. J.J. McCarthy struggled for three quarters. Bo Knicks struggled.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Cam Ward was good, but didn't have much to work with. I thought Michael Pennix was very good. I thought Jaden Daniels was good. So I think you get a mixed bag with young quarterbacks. And for the record, I thought Caleb Williams in the first half was pretty good. And the other thing, he wasn't lured into interceptions. Like he was dropping it underneath. but I did think in the second half, especially that first series, you were watching Ben Johnson's
Starting point is 00:38:41 body language, he's swearing on the headset. I thought he had a really bad opening series in the second half, and I thought it had affected his confidence. So with young quarterbacks, again, with Tom Brady, you can do a pick six. He doesn't care. He didn't lose his confidence. J.J. McCarthy hit that big throw to Justin Jefferson early in the fourth quarter. He came out and hit that throw.
Starting point is 00:39:03 And like his body language, his velocity. his confidence flipped. And so for young quarterbacks, it just takes one mistake or one great throw and things change. That's very much Baker Mayfield early in his career. Again, Baker and Sam Darnold and Gino Smith, they're veterans now. They're more settled in.
Starting point is 00:39:21 But your first three or four years in the league, half to have series to series, it ebbs and flows. And I remember once, this was long, long time ago, and we know how obsessed Tom Brady was. Jay Glazer was interviewing him during a camp. And Brady said, you know, I'm in year, you know, blank 14. He goes, I've seen every defense now.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I mean, Mahomes admitted it wasn't until year three when everything slowed down. So if you just take year one out, it was a disaster in Chicago, take year one out. Let's pretend this was the first game with a competent staff and an offensive coach. You would say, first half was pretty good. They let 17 to 6. But man, did he miss some easy stuff? all right well you would say about j j mccarthy he was terrible for three quarters and then he caught fire whereas j j j was awful and then great whereas caleb was like pretty good into pretty bad he was more in the
Starting point is 00:40:19 middle 10 was j j j mccarthy one was j j j mccarthy calib was more four through seven four through six. And so they grow. And now Caleb goes against the Detroit defense where there is no Brian Flores and it's not as good of personnel. And Detroit, you know, has got their own offensive issues they're concentrating on. There's no Aaron Glenn. My take is Caleb Williams probably in week two. Looks a little better. Looks a little cleaner. And things are a little easier off script. And I don't think J.J. McCarthy's next game, like he did in the fourth quarter. That was magic.
Starting point is 00:40:59 He won't look like he did in the first, but he won't look like he did in the fourth. All right, we are done. I'll be joining you from Chicago tomorrow. It's the hurt. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
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Starting point is 00:42:02 Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season,
Starting point is 00:42:17 and I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was hiring. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis' keep coming, until he's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love.
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