The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Daniel Jeremiah joins the show to breakdown the NFL Draft

Episode Date: April 20, 2026

NFL draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah joins the show to breakdown what type of prospect Heisman Trophy winner Fernando Mendoza is and why it’s time for the Chiefs take a big swing in Thursday’s 1st roundSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Anne asked me, what are you doing this weekend? I said, watching the NFL draft. Some NBA playoffs, I'll be watching. You know, I was thinking about going, yeah, you go ahead. I've got, you know, I've got to clean the garage. I've got some, I got a lot of yard. work to do. I'll be out here, labor intensive. You go do what you want to do

shopping and stuff. I'm just going to be sitting in front of a TV all weekend. Let's bring in DJ. Daniel Jeremiah is joining us. NFL Network's lead analyst. Yeah, it's, you know what's funny about that. Everybody said, well, it's not this, this draft. I'm looking at your

top 10. As a former scout, your top 10 prospect. So Fernando Mendoz, in my opinion, will absolutely change the Raiders. I'm going to throw something at you. Okay. So you have David Bailey, the edge out of Texas. So I watched him at Stanford and I watched him at Texas Tech. He just kept getting better and better. So you're Brett Veach, your Kansas City. You have four real concerns. Running back, check Kenneth Walker.

Edge, corner, right tackle, but you did get Jalen Moore from the Niners and maybe in-house you think you can get a tackle in the fifth. Is it the craziest thing? If you're Kansas, Kansas City and you look at this draft. You've got depth. What you don't have is the Rams or the Eagles or the Seahawks. Top in talent. And the Chiefs go, we got running back solved. Let's get edge solved.

We'll get a corner in round two. I'd give up two ones to move up. Now, I know you're not supposed to do that. But if I'm looking at my division now with Bo Nix, Fernando Mendoza, Justin Herbert, I'm in the quarterback conference. Is David Bailey a starter day one, a pro bowler year two or three? Is he that kind of player? Or is he just a guy who starts and is a nice plus player?

What is he? I think he's really good. I mean, to me, I think you know what you're buying with him. I think it's self-explanatory. His past fresh stuff all translates. Everything you see on tape, I think all of it translates to the next level. It's got a big time get off. he's got a good feel.

You overset him. He's going to beat you inside with a spin. Like he's got a lot of ways to do it. I'm going to use this analogy. I'm going to climb inside. I'm going to get Channel Colin right now. I'm going to channel Colin and here's my analogy. Tell me if this passes the test.

If I presented this to you in a production meeting, would you run with this? Because here we go. If you're at the Kansas City Chiefs or the L.A. Rams, it's almost like this is found money. We are way too good of a team to be picking up here. That's like you've never, they never get to go to Disneyland.

They never get to go to Disney. So this is the first time they get to go to Disneyland, Colin, and you get like, I'm going to go ride the big roller coaster. Let's trade up. Let's go get David Bailey. Let's, if Jeremiah loves there, let's go get it. When are we going to ever get a chance to get one of these guys? I totally agree with it.

I said this about the Giants. So let's talk Giants. I said, yeah, when a Harbaugh takes over your football operation, you'll never draft high again. By next year, the Giants are drafting somewhere between 18 and 13. And my take is you have two first round picks. First pick is for now. Go get Sunny Stiles.

Okay. Second pick. Andrew Thomas is great. Average is 10 starts the last three years. Your right tackle, a bit of a journeyman. You gave him a big contract. He may be pressed into left tackle duty.

I would take that 10 pick and maybe it's a little rich for Fano. But if I could trade down and get Freeling out of Georgia and you say, well, he's not quite ready. I love Andrew Thomas. He struggles to stay on the field. And Jackson Dart lived in the blue tent. You tell me, does that pass your production meeting? If you're the GM of the Giants, Daniel, and I say, guys, first pick is for now.

We got to get a guy that's going to, I don't care if it's the interior lineman for Penn State or the Georgia tackle who's crazy athletic. The second pick is for the future. Do teams talk like that? Yeah, that's a conversation that takes place. I would also look at it from first year, new head coach. I look at your first pick. I believe it's a statement pick.

I believe this tells everybody not only on the outside but on the inside. This is who and what we're about. Like this is our guy. This is what we believe in. This is a core player. And this is where we're going to go. So I love styles. I have been told that don't expect that to happen, that the Giants aren't going to take

styles. To me, it just makes sense. That's why I'm wishcasting for that. happen. But the other thing I would say I've heard there, and I think this goes to your offensive lineman idea, which is one of these two picks has to be for Jackson Dart. Like, yes, yes. You got neighbors, neighbors not fully healthy. Okay. So we're already starting there. Like, we need to get him another piece up front that's going to protect him. We need to get another playmaker outside that can go make some plays for him.

But one of these two picks is going to be, is going to be for him. And I have, it's interesting with some of these young guys. Him, I would say Shuck at New Orleans. They've got a good offensive line. They got the two good tackles there. But, man, you saw some of the glimpses of what Shuck can do. Like I could see them saying, okay, if we can go get one of these elite rushers, let's do it.

Let's move up a little bit. If we're stuck here at 8, like, man, there's nothing wrong with us taking, you know, Tate and just pairing him up with Olave, and let's get a chance to kind of play with our shiny new toy with this quarterback. Let's help him. That seems to be something I hear over and over again with these teams with young QBs. We've got to do something for them. Yeah, you know, it's interesting.

It's a bad running back draft. It's not a good tight end draft. And everybody keeps saying, it's not a good wide receiver draft. But Tate, you have him at six. Lemon, you have him at 12. I mean, the Arizona State kid's really good. He just struggled with injuries.

You got the kid at Louisville. If he didn't have an ACL, Bell, he could be an end of the first guy. You've got Omar Cooper. Everybody keeps telling me, it's an average receiver draft. I don't know. I don't, is it?

Colin, I've told you this before when we've had some of these chats. Starters, not Stars. If you'll just think of it from that standpoint of starter, there's starters. There's a lot of starting receivers in this group. Okay. It's not like some of these, like Odell Beckham, you know, look at some of like the Justin Jefferson,

some of these guys you have in your mind of what that's supposed to look like. Okay, we don't have those. Right. But there's really, really solid starters, really good players. strengths. Like to me, you'll see these orders, you know, all over the place with teams. Like Tyson is is super twitchy and athletic and acrobatic and he can, you know, he can go make some big plays down the field. He's not real strong against press. He's not real contested catch guy and he's not great after the catch. Omar Cooper, Mackay Lemon put the ball in their hands in the

fun starts. They're run after catch guys, but they don't have the frames and the size and that ability on the outside. So it's really kind of what you, knowing who you are and what you are and what works for you. Like McKay Lemon, I could see McKay Lemon, the Rams at 13, bam, turn the card in, he's great. But then some of the other teams aren't really McKay Lemon teams because they don't have a vision for him.

So that's why I look at it. Just think starters, not stars, and fit over everything else. What would you do? Okay, let's say Fernando goes one. Yeah. Bailey goes two. So you're Arizona offensive coach. You couldn't run the ball at all last year.

my take is okay you got tied end I love really good receivers why not with an offensive coach say I'm going to lean into what I do this is what Ben Johnson did I'm going to go get Colston Loveland

I'm going to get Luther Burden you're like well you already have DJ Moore you already have Roma Dunzee you got two backs you like and Ben's like no I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to do whatever it takes on my side of the ball all overdraft offense

well the Cardinals drafted all defense top five picks last year. I mean, it tells me Mendoza off the board. If David Bailey is, why don't I just go get the running back from Notre Dame? Yeah, I mean, that's what's been said a lot over the last 48 hours. And everybody I talked to said it looks like the Cardinals are leaning there. And that came almost out of nowhere, where that had not been talked about much with them.

And now it's everywhere to the point where I'm a little bit suspicious going like, they really want everybody to know that they're going to take Jeremiah Love. Just so happens that four is a Jeremiah, love spot with the Titans, are they trying to, you know, trying to create more traffic for that pick? Could they trade out? You know, he's my second player in the draft. So, I mean, I think he's tremendous talent. But I think you can be the second best player in the draft and not necessarily be the right fit for him there. I like them. If you're asking me who they're going to, what, what should the Arizona Cardinals do or what should they take? They should take this thing right

here and they should make sure that they get on the phone with somebody and trade down and get some extra picks and try and build a foundation for their quarterback, whether or not, I believe it's going to be Ty Simpson in this draft at some point in time later on. That seems to be the obvious marriage that they're going to have. I think they can get him at 34. I don't think they would have to trade up, but maybe they get jumping and go get him. But, you know, you look at the Saints last year is a great test case. Needed a quarterback, but they said, well, we got FWaga.

Let's go take banks. Now we've got offensive tackles. That's going to give Tyler Shuck. Let's give Tyler Shuck a chance. So now if you're the Cardinals, you've got Paris. Now all of a sudden we're going to go get another tackle. We trade down. We take Maui, Noah, you know, whatever, eight or nine,

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Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A.J. Brown to the Patriots makes a ton of sense to me. What is, what's A.J. Brown worth to you? man, I would think Howard's going to want a one, I'm sure. Oh, absolutely. I think in this draft, he's worth a one. Yeah, but I don't think, it sounds like this will be, you know, something that happens in June.

So now you're talking about a 27 one, which is like a lottery ticket, you know, and what could be a really, really good draft. So, you know, I think it's a one and, you know, whether that's a, you know, everybody likes to do it now where you could do a combination of it's a one and then a pick swap or it's a one and a conditional pick based off of him being healthy and productive for New England.

How do you... Did I just say New England, by the way? I'm not like saying, everybody's saying, hey, he's already said he's going to New England. It feels that way. It does feel that way. So if I'm the GM and you're my lead scout, I say, all right, DJ, I don't know how this works,

but I want final grades on Fernando Mendoza. And, you know, like I've seen the baseball scouts where he's like good range plus, give me what your scouting report would say, I'm the head guy and you're one of my scouts and you had the Midwest. And what would you say?

What was your scouting report say on Fernando Mendoza? Yeah, I would start with the absolutes and the obvious. Like he is physically and mentally tough. Check those boxes, no questions asked. There's no debate. He checks the size mark, the durability mark. Those are all there. The off the field stuff, the work ethic,

the intelligence, those are exceptional. Now, in terms of the style of player that he is, he's a good decision maker. He's someone who's more of a drive thrower than a layered thrower. So we're going to build our offense through that. We're going to be pushing the ball outside. Explain that. What's that mean to the audience? So if you look around the league, and if the 49ers were playing against the chargers, you would watch Justin Herbert and you would see a drive-throw. Someone who the ball is firm, he's driving. You want to throw a skinny post. you want to drive it deep out. That thing is on a line.

It doesn't get more than eight feet off the ground. Like it is just that that's how he throws the ball. You watch Brock Purdy when they get the ball, and you're going to see the ball getting up over linebackers under safety. You're going to see the ball come out really early with anticipation. There's a lot more arc. There's a little more layer to it. It really depends more on your anticipation and timing and placement.

Whereas when you're a drive thrower, we can throw the ball through a car wash and not get wet. Like we're going to be able to be very firm throwing the football. So which is Mendoza? He's a drive thrower. That's what he is. And then Ty Simpson's a layer thrower. Like that's a great example of two guys, two different ways of playing the position, two different strengths.

I think the drive thrower is a little more universal in terms of the environment, the weather, all those different things. That, you know, whereas the environment matters a little bit more when you're more of a layered thrower. Okay. Now I want you to give me, I'm putting you the test. I'm a GM. I am very. You are hard charge. Can I get a raise? No raises.

Well, depending on this evaluation, I thought Omar Cooper was really good, but they had three receivers. You're the scout. Hand me your Omar Cooper evaluation. Yeah, our job, if we're going to take Omar Cooper, is to get the ball in his hands, and that's when the fun starts. So to me, I think he holds more value in today's NFL than maybe he did 10 years ago. The whole league is the whole league's playing shell coverage. Everybody's in two high safeties. This started with Tyree Kill and Mahomes and how do we defend that? Well, we're going to put the safeties in the parking lot and you're going to have to methodically move the ball down the field.

So teams have then, well, how do we get, we need explosive plays. You need explosive plays to win. We can't throw over the top of you anymore. So how are we going to get explosive plays? We're going to get explosive plays by being able to run the ball. Hopefully with a dynamic back. We're going to be in some 13 personnel, use tight ends, try and get some explosives that way. In the past game, our explosives,

are going to come with catch and run, not run and catch. So we're going to get the ball in your hands, and we're going to make people have to tackle this guy who's allergic to it. He's allergic to being tackled. He will not be tackled. He doesn't go down. So we're going to be able to get our explosives that way. He's fearless. He'll work in the middle of the field. That's where his value comes in in today's NFL.

All right. Let me see. You know, it's interesting. LSU was just like being the boss. That's what I'm realizing through this whole thing. That's what I'm realizing. That's right. That's why I keep Jay Mack on his toes day to day. If the herd line news is good? He's right there. He's barely back. Okay, here's one.

So, LSU in my life, I remember years ago reading some stat. There were like 22 defensive backs in the league from LSU. It was just a ridiculous number. Mansour Delane, when I watched him play, I watched a lot of SEC football. When I watched him play, he doesn't have Dorel Revis stuff. But that dude, there is something to be said about cool. trust himself, super confident, makes it look. I always said Justin Herbert makes throwing a football look easy.

He's an easy throw. When I watch this kid from LSU play corner, I know he may not run a four or three. That dude is just an effortless athlete. It looks as he's been in the league forever. Why isn't the best corner in a draft more highly thought of? I would say he's not, he's just a little below the line in terms of the size and the length. so, you know, he's just under six foot. He's, you know, he's under 200 pounds.

So, I mean, that, and he doesn't have, you don't have super long arms. So just from that standpoint, that's why he ran 438. Everybody was like, well, he can't, you know, can he run? I don't know if he can run. And then he ran 438. And it's like, well, he checked that box. He is the king of really good, man. He is just really good.

So is it, is it stingly, no, you know, like the sauce gardener traits that he had coming out. Like, okay, he's not on that level. But all I know is they give him a guy. cover and he covers him and he does it consistently repeatedly. The year before different school wasn't it didn't play as well. He was a much better player this year. I thought his tape this year was some of the cleanest. He just, he didn't get beat, didn't give up plays. Yeah, I was told by GM that Sonny Stiles is the cleanest player in the draft. Explain what that means. Checks every box. So when you have a card, when you're in the draft room and you've got a card up on the wall, it'll have

color coding. So it'll have like their height, weight speed. And then you'll have different like gold would be like you're in the elite percentile, then green would be, you know, you're, you're way above the line. And then, you know, yellow, cautionary red, bad. Like, his card is all gold, like height, weight, speed, you know, intelligence, you know, we used to do with the Wonderlich now, all this different testing and all those things. Leadership and tangible is like, he's just like a gold card up there. Like, it's all in the top, top percentile.

You don't see guys that are that big, that long, that fast, who also happen to be smart, leaders, like, there's not a box that he doesn't really check. So he's my third player, Colin. That's why I put him up there. It's interesting when people get to position paralyzed. A couple years ago, the Ravens went and got a center and a safety. Everybody's like, I don't know. They were both great.

Two weeks into camp. Like, guys just go get good football players. Yeah, you can overthink it. Now, I'm all for when you got the same grades to lean into the positional value and there's the money side of it, 100%. But I'm not going to. going to pass up all pro safety to take a, you know, a okay defensive end. Like that, just for the sake of taking a defensive end, that'd make me sense. All right.

Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network. Thursday is going to be, he'll be busy all weekend. And so will we watching him. Good seeing you. Hey, great to see you. I look forward to my performance review. And just hoping to stay employed over here. Well, pretty good.

So far, B++ stuff. See if we can get to the next level. The world's best boss coffee mug coming your way, Colin. DJ Daniel Jeremiah NFL Network. He's great. He's their lead analyst. Yeah, I get so fired up. I get so fired up for that stuff.

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Rivalries don't get much better than this. We got New York and Boston. judge in the Yankees versus the Red Sox. Catch their next chapter Thursday at 6th Eastern on FS1. Did you notice that? The Mets are awful. The Phillies, the Js, and the Astros are struggling. And little tiny Cincinnati and Milwaukee and the A's

and the Reds and the Cleveland Guardians are all near first place. Oh, Dodgers. Dodgers are the only big money team playing great baseball. That's it. All the other big payroll teams have issues. Yankees, back end, nobody, you know, nobody likes their GM anymore or their manager, right? Suddenly they can't, they don't know what they're doing. But, you know, because the Dodgers are playing well and you know, it's all money.

No, it's how they spend their money. The Mets have the second biggest payroll. Worst team in baseball right now. Worst team in baseball. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

All right, we didn't talk much about the Celtic. destruction of the Sixers. Gross game. Disgusting. Jason Tatum went off. He had 25, 11, and 7. Jalen Brown had 26. After the game, Brown said the Celtics just played their way. I mean, that was Celtic basketball.

We've been a harder playing team all year. That can't change now with the playoffs has started. But then it's just focusing in, honing in on the details, and just winning the fight. You know, being a harder playing team and just guarding. You know, our offense can win us this series. I mean, our offense is important, but we got to make sure we guard. I think tonight we did a great job.

Yeah, he's kind of become, you know what? Go ahead, say. He and Tatum, there's no gap anymore. They're both, there's no gap. Was it Brown, the finals? Tadem here, Brown, second, Marcus Smart, third, you know, Derek White for, you know, three or four or five years ago, whatever it was when they were all together. Marcus Smart got traded like three years ago.

Right now, Jalen Brown and Tatum, one, one, A. Well, one guy's coming off in a kill. They're good. The problem is Philadelphia stinks. No M-Bed, no rim protection. Couldn't make threes. I don't know. Can Philly win a game in this series, Colin?

Yeah, probably. Boston is reliant on threes, and they have bad shooting halves. But it's, you know, it's everything, top, soup to nuts, top to bottom. them selfics are just really smart. They don't miss on draft picks. Acquisitions work. It's like Boston in the east, Oklahoma City in the West. It all starts upstairs.

Sam Presti, Brad Stevens, all starts upstairs. They just don't miss. All right, let's move on to the next story. More NFL News, Colin. How about this? Will Anderson got a big new deal. Three years, $150 million extension, making him the highest paid non-quarterback in the NFL at 50 mil per season.

My first question, they gave him 134-mill guarantee. How are they going to be able to afford C.J. Stroud when the bill comes due for him and his rookie deals up? Because Will Anderson's great and need to pay him, but... Yes, yes. Well, what you're going to do is keep drafting defense. You're going to pay Will Anderson, but keep the rest of your defense young, cheap, and flexible.

So, Will Anderson, every GM in this league has the same feeling. You pay for an elite defense. guy in the front four to five. You pay for that. Then you just, you move off corners. Now, Stingley's great. That's going to be a difficult decision. But Will Anderson's one of the easiest checks you could write in this league defensively, one of the easy ones. So the problem with Houston is they're so defensive heavy, right? They're almost like the Steelers, except they actually have a quarterback in C.J. Stroud. But Colin, you saw them in the playoffs. The defense carried him against Pittsburgh, right? And then the defense kept

the minute against New England until Stroud gave the game away with a hideous performance. I don't, this model to me, I don't know if they're going to break through. I mean, what is that? Three straight playoff trips and like they haven't quite taken the next step. I don't know that it's happening this year or next. Yeah, I just feel like C.J. Stroud is kind of out of rhythm. But again, I think he's gotten kind of true. Turnover heavy, something not quite right.

I still believe in him. I still, big, moves enough. Beautiful accuracy. Bryce Young closed the gap with C.J. Stroud this past season. That's fair. I don't know that he's going to pass him, but he closed. Stroud over Bryce Young. Here we go, here we go.

You love these games. Next three years, C.J. Stroud or Jailen Hertz? C.J. Stroud. Oh, come on. Super Bowl MVP. Jailen Hertz. On all the ribbons and awards, I'm caught up in size, arm. Jaylon Hertz can't see over, he can't throw the ball in the middle of the field.

You're caught up in turtovers. His star receiver wants out. At least he has a star receiver. I mean, Nico Collins is good. He's always hurt. He's hurt in the playoffs. Give me another quarterback. C.J. Stroud.

Fine. C.J. Stroud or Brock Bertie. C.J. Stroud or Jared G. Jared Giff. Just the next three years, not like a decade. Probably golf is more consistent. Dak or CJ Stratt? Jack's one more injury away.

I'd probably go C.J. Stratr, I'd probably go C.J. Stratr, I still buy him. Again, these are like in the guys in the 8 to 14 range. So you've probably got C.J. Stroud as like a fringe top 10 quarterback? I don't, yeah, I don't bail on guys. I thought he got really sloppy last year. You bailed on Jalen Hertz. Well, he can't see over the line. He couldn't last year and he won the Super Bowl, the MVP.

He has wilt this year. Guys, five, 11 and a half. Our offensive linemen shrinking. What a hater. Oh, my God. Let's get to the final story. A lot of hating here. Your Portland Trailblazers.

Colin, this is an amazing story. So they're a rich guy. Tom Dundon bought the team. His net worth over $2 billion. And he's going full on cheap. There was a report that the, you know, remember you saw the Spurs game yesterday. Look at the arena.

Everybody's got T-shirt. They've got a color scheme. OKC had it too. There's a report. Portland will not get free t-shirts at the game. They jack up ticket prices, and they're not even giving a free t-shirt, and it gets worse.

So one of the things in the NBA is two-way players where your G-League and NBA, you travel with the team in the playoffs. Every team in the playoffs has her two-way players with them. Portland's not doing that. Yeah, but they can't play anyway. But it doesn't matter. You're part of the team all season,

then you don't even get to travel. And, Colin, the worst part is, Chris Mannix reported over the weekend. Portland's new owner made the coaches check out of the hotel early so they did not incur late fees at the hotel in Phoenix during the play-end game. They had to check out of 12 so they didn't pay late fees. Colin, this is bad. This is cheap.

There's a billionaire going cheap. Here's the worst part. Denny Avdia is a rising stud. You're going to try to nickel and dime him the way he doesn't want to pay the coach splitter? You see cheap. I see culture. Oh my, you are not going. You're defending this guy?

He's not going to bring two guys that can't play on the road. Oh, really? Oh, my God. And the no free t-shirts for the fans? Come on, you love swag as much as the next guy. I've been in Super Bowl suites with you, gifting sweets. You love that stuff. But the time they get back to Portland, this thing, they're down.

Love 02. And, you know, I mean, this is not the end of the world. Free t-shirts. I don't like giving away free stuff. You just bought the T-E-Chi. and your first move is to go cheap? Well, have you seen his bank notes? It's not free for him.

Oh, so rich guy gets all wealthy and then pulls the ladder up. You're not coming with me. No free ride for you. How about this? Keep your eye on this guy's not done buying things in the Pacific Northwest. Is he going Seahawks? That would be terrible news. He's going to gut them like a fish.

Well, maybe he looks at the NBA business is not necessarily a growth model, and he looks at the NFL purchase as a bigger model, if indeed that's what I'm suggesting. Well, I'll give him props. He bought the Carolina Hurricanes, and the on-field product has improved dramatically. They've had some good postseason runs. Oh, did he give away free T-shirts?

I don't know, but he has a history of not wanting to pay coaches. Just remember what he inherited. Chauncey Billups getting arrested in handcuffs. New coach comes in, guides him to the playoffs, and now they're negotiating, and he's like, I'm not paying you anything. I'm not losing a lot of sleep because two guys who can't play aren't traveling. It's called Southwest Airlines getting a flight. Wow.

Cold-blooded. What, cold-blooded? I mean, honestly. My phone's blowing up here. Some volume employees texting. What is coward? Oh, my. What if I had a volume party for my little company, and it's the Super Bowl

and people were outraged because I didn't fly two people there that couldn't get into the Super Bowl anyway? What if it was no open bar? Huh? Listen, man. That's a bridge too far. Okay, finally. All right, good, good.

Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lying news. I have suggested this is that when everybody wins, you should consider things even if they're drastically different. So the Warriors, the NBA today makes trading really hard. Okay, really hard.

So the Warriors are a mile from competitive. competing with the Celtics, the Thunder, the Spurs in a seven-game series. Forget winning it. They couldn't. They may get swept. Maybe Steph shoots them to a win. I mean, they couldn't even go from the playing into the playoffs. Beat the Clippers.

Shocking. Clippers underwhelm in a big spot. So my take is, what if Kerr and Curry just said, listen, it's been unbelievable. But it's time. but we cannot there's no way to build this thing there's no way to do it the NBA makes trading too hard

we had an incredible run we haven't won 50 games in four seasons we're old we're small and we're slow and Steve Kerr is still elite coach still top two coach three coach Steph Curry is still wildly entertaining make a move get draft capital

is it crazy is that outrageous warrior fans would have all those memories and now can do a real official legitimate rebuild. Kerr can go somewhere like Orlando and start competing for a title. He's too good of a coach to be coached in a team that is in the playing game. And I know I'm not a sentimental guy. Here's Draymond Green today on a podcast on the Warriors and Steve Kerr's future.

I'm happy, you know, we got to share that moment and that Steve was in the moment, right? Like capturing, like he didn't miss the moment. And, you know, it was a big deal because, you know, if you ask me, I don't know that he's coming back. And, you know, if you want my opinion, just with all the talk that's been going around and all, if you act on my opinion, I think not.

Just because it just feels like that. Yeah, I mean, they're going to be, you know, it's not going to get better next year. I mean, because when Steph plays, they're 10 and a half points better. When he doesn't play, they're unwatchable offensively. So it's like you want to start over? Like the memories don't fade. The free t-shirts you got six, seven times during playoff games. You still can wash those.

You can still wear those working out. You mean, you have all the good stuff. But I don't, you know, when you just sit in the driveway and talk about the good old days, or, you know, take a big swing. What is Steph? 38? He still has value. Still has incredible value.

You're not going to have value in a couple years. He may not have as much value next year, one more injury. Just a thought. But Colin. Whatever. See you tomorrow. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.

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