The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Differences in coaching

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

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for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to a podcast. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. He played six NFL seasons. Of course, younger brother of Carson Palmer's Jordan Palmer, who is created. He's one of the great quarterback coaches in the country, founder of quarterback Summit, a program that helps quarterbacks reach their potential.

He's worked with everybody. Mahalms, Josh Allen. And so also has a podcast called The Quarterback Room. Give it a listen. So let's, you know, we talked about this yesterday is, I was talking to Steve Kama, former GM, and I said, you know, there's a difference between a 24-year-old. and an Achilles surgery. He's never been paid the big money. There's no ring, no legacy. You wake up every day with that hunger to get back. Aaron's rich. He's got a ring. He's

39. And this rehab's going to be daunting. Do you worry about that? I mean, absolutely. I mean, there's the morning of what happened to the football world, losing and Aaron Rogers on all the things that we were all looking forward to see. But when you just look at the rehab of this, he's 39, you got to look at some other sports where this has happened. I mean, we all watched here in Los Angeles. We all watch Kobe, right? Pop his Achilles and then sink a free throw. But Kobe was 35 when he did it.

I'm friends with a guy named Drew Marcos, who consulted on that. He's a great physical therapist. And when you go through that, it's, and I heard what Mark said yesterday, it's one of those things where you have those milestones, but it's a decision in the beginning. I'm either going to do this and pursue this with really everything that I have, or I can't do it. You can't 75% an Achilles is.

injury, especially at 39. And so I'm fascinated to see not how the rehab go, but that decision that Aaron makes, right? And we all talked about the decisions that he had to make this year leaving Green Bay, he went in a cave, and we all talked about it for months and months and how he came to a conclusion to move on, go to the jets and, you know, lay out what he was trying to lay out this year. But I'm just fascinated to see how he makes that decision. And if he decides I'm all in and I'm doing this again, I don't think there's a problem. And again, the key thing, this was a week one injury. This happened in the beginning of September.

This did not happen in the playoffs. This is not a November injury. So that's an extra couple months. And when you look at the protocols and the rehab and how that goes, I think if he makes the decision that I'm chasing this, the same way he chased it this year, then I think we're going to get a chance to be just as excited in it 12 months from now about Aaron Rogers start as a jet as we were on Monday.

So Josh Allen is somebody that you've mentored and been part of his process. And I said yesterday that there are, we know the value of coordinators, Kyle Shanahan and Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan's always been good. Then he became great. We know this to be true, is that in my business, political people, presidents, senators, when they have the right wingman or kingmaker, they're better at their job, even if they're good at it. And so Brian Daybull and Josh Allen, I felt like he sandpapered him.

The mechanics got a little cleaner. He got a little more patient because he tends. tends to be so he's so gifted athletically. He can be a tad impatient or a tad leaning on his arm over everything. Very natural. Bradshaw, Namath, those with a great arm will use it. But I do notice, start of last year to week one, he is more prone to mistakes, even fumbles. There's something, I wish he would slide, maybe he never will. It does feel off. To me as a viewer, it feels off. You do this for a living. What isn't quite buttoned up? that maybe was over a year ago.

Well, first, I think it's less about, you know, Ken Dorsey and what he isn't, you know, the conversation. It's more about really Brian Daibel. I mean, this is, I think a few years from now, we'll all say that's the best coach in football. And I had a comment that Bill Belichick, I've known him for a long time, made a comment to me at a pro day or something one day. And we were talking about Daible when he said, Daible's one of the only coaches I've ever been around who could be an elite

offensive coordinator in this league like he is right now. He could also be an elite defensive coordinator and he could also be in a elite special teams coordinator. He understands football at that level. And so when you lose that, you don't just kind of replace it, right? And so I think what Josh benefited from with dayball is not just the play calling, but learning the game. The guy played at Wyoming, right? So learning the game from who Bill Belichick and a lot of other people think is one of the smarter dudes in the league at teaching the position. So when you lose that and the play calling, there is a period of time where you have to get on the same page. Quarterbacks and receivers and O'Line get used to hearing certain

things, seeing it a certain way, having it installed in the offseason a certain way, having it installed in season a certain way. And when it comes to Josh the other night and decision making, I don't think that's coordinator based. I think that's individual based. But I think it's just a process of getting on the same page, but also figuring out how to utilize all these pieces. And when that play that we talked about on Wednesday and we ran on Thursday, when that's actually getting called in the game, those are the things that quarterbacks and coordinators, it's not a first year or a second year thing. It's a process over time getting on that same page.

It's easy for fans to say, let's get on the same page, but there's so many elements. There's 11 guys playing. There's different coverages and pressures in front. There's injuries every week. 100%. Yeah. So, by the way, his podcast is called the quarterback room.

Caleb Williams, Josh, Alan, Jared Goff, already been on the show. His latest interview, Baker Mayfield released this morning. Baker's 1 in 0, by the way, and had a gutty. He did. I ran over a corner. safety and talk to a little trash. So a lot of times I will watch the play calls. And that will tell me what the staff thinks of the player.

And I watched Brock Purdy at Pittsburgh, that front, that's a pretty aggressive game plan. And my takeaway was, this staff likes, I thought it was more aggressive than they would have given Jimmy Garapolo. And I watched it and I thought, this staff trusts Brock Purdy. I can see it. I'm as a consumer. That was my takeaway.

Have we just undervalued? Tony Romo was undrafted. Kurt Warner was undrafted. Have we undervalued his talent? Yeah, there's something that happens in the draft. We get so caught up and we spend all this time, those couple of months talking about it, and then the draft happens, and then this guy,

and you're labeled from the media and fans' perspective. That guy's a third round pick. That guy's the top 10 pick. That guy's Mr. Irrelevant. Right. When you get in the locker room, we get in the huddle, you're just a nineer. You know what I mean?

You're not a seventh round pick. Yeah. You're not, your brand or whatever you are is what you're doing right now. It's not what happened in the draft. People get drafted too high. People get drafted too late. And so I think we've all made a big deal about it because it was such an incredible story last year.

This dude's the last pick in the draft and he's, you know, got a chance to go to the Super Bowl. But now time's gone by. I think when I look at the play calling last year, and this is what Kyle Shanahan, one of the things he's fantastic at is we got a great defense, great running back, great run game. and playmakers outside and Kittle and Iuke and all these guys, look, we need you to make three to five plays a game. Yeah.

Right? We're going to run for this. We're going to build in what I call manufacture completions, whether it's a screen or it's a concept where we know it's going to one or two or one or two or three. So these are manufactured completions. We're calling this play and this ball is going to be complete. We need you to make a couple of plays.

Well, now, even though his offseason was rehab and all that stuff, but going into year two for him, he's not the last pick of the seventh round anymore. he's the starting quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. And I think you're seeing that confidence in the play calling, and you saw it, the confidence in the play calling around him that we no longer need him to make three to five plays. We're just going to run our offense. We're not worried long term about Joe Burrell,

but that was, that was turbulent. It was hard to watch. Why? What, what, I'm not saying you're sitting around watching 22 film, but that's that was not just you know that wasn't a three pick game when you're throwing it downfield

what's going on it was it protection based yeah well i do watch all 22 every week he's a client of mine so we do watch these and uh one of the things that i watched it live and i got i had four guys playing at 10 a m so i'm like balancing back and forth but when i go back and i do watch the tape um i think that that had more to do with cleveland than Cincinnati yeah you've given him trouble well just but right now cincinnat right now cleveland i think in a month, we're all going to be saying, we're going to be talking about that past rush the same way we're talking about Dallas right. We're actually going to be talking about Zadiris Smith. Is that right? The new edition, right? That addition, he's not Jadavia and Clownie. He's a game record.

Yeah. And I think it had more to do with what Cleveland did. There was a series, a third quarter, it's a 10-3 ball game since he's down. They had three touchdowns open downfield. The first two plays, Mal Garrett, ruined the play. So then they chip him on third. third down with the back, and then Zadarius is on the left guard, and he throws him on the ground, and he ruins the play. That's a 10-10 ball game right there, and it's a different deal. So Cincinnati, a couple new pieces on the offensive line, Orlando Brown, Joe Burrow out for a month going into the season, trying to figure out this elite pass rush on the road in terrible weather.

Those are just not the place to get on the same page. And so I don't, I have no concerns or worries long term for Cincinnati. I think they're going to be just fine. but I think the other day had a little bit more to do with how good Cleveland's pass rush and defense is than it is these issues in Cincinnati. I think they get solved. So I'm going to stay away from the CJ Strouds, Bryce Young, Anthony. Next time we have you back in four or six weeks, we'll deep dive those, but it's just too. Anthony Richardson, I will say, is a man.

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You know, my kids, your kids get better. I watched that and I thought, is that what he is now? Yeah. Do I have to just forget previous Quinn Ewers? Because that is a first round NFL quarterback. That was my takeaway. Yeah, I remember seeing him in high school through the Elite 11 process. And he had him and Cade Clubneck, who's a starter at Clemson right now.

They went head to head in two state championships in Texas. And then there was big boy, six A ball. Yeah. And Cade won both those. And then the Elite 11 rolls around and Cade's MVP. And it just felt like Quinn was okay with that. Right. So there was questions around the competitive temperament. He's got the mullet, bleached mullet.

He's kind of heavier than he should be. Yeah, yeah. You know, and he leaves early for the NIL. that was really the first move in NIL was him going to Ohio State and not playing his senior year at all. Yeah. So you question somebody skips their senior year in high school. We start questioning their competitive temperament. Yeah.

And I think what it was was just a maturity thing. Yeah. And when I look at him now, he's, he looks great, right? He's in great shape. He got a haircut. He's pulled like a Morgan Wallen. You know what I mean? Had the mullet and had issues.

And now all of a sudden he's the number one artist. And then hearing things out of Texas, I think he's just grown up and matured a lot. And you know me? I've always said the two most important. traits in a quarterback, confidence and maturity. And so with him and Sark in these pieces, I think Texas, I mean, they just beat Bama, but I think Texas is for real. And I think Quinn is now positioned himself for where he was coming out of high school, which is when you're the number one recruit in the country, you should play well in college and get drafted high in the NFL. That's the

trajectory. And I think whatever he did this offseason, whoever's pouring into him off the field, has done a fantastic job. And I think we're starting to see a young star emerge. So I've never seen this is probably a bit hyperbolic. I have never seen a conference with more NFL quarterback prospects than the Pac-12. It's insane. Even the kid from Clemson, who went to Oregon State, who wasn't a big fan of, maybe

Jonathan Smith has turned him around. Riley Leonard at Duke, the kid at Florida State, Shadour Sanders, who early glimpses, wow. I still think Caleb Williams is a notch above them. You've had him on his podcast, your podcast.

I think it's funny about quarterback play. I think he is mature and I think he is confident. When I watch him play, and this is just my takeaway, is I think they put a lot on him because I watch how multiple USC is and it feels very pro-like. That's what it looks like to me. They're asking him to do now maybe that's not the case. But what when you did in the podcast with him,

beyond what I see, is there is there an it, a juice that when you talk to him, you see, confidence, maturity. I mean, how mature can any 22-year-old be? They're all kids. What is it that you see, maybe that I don't because you do this for a living? I think he does so many things athletically that wow us, right? Drops a snap, picks it up, and rips it 60 yards. You know, he just says these things where you go, let me say that again, right? That you can, you can bypass or not notice some other things like how intelligent he is and how much they put on him. And one of the things we talked about. That's very Mahomes like, by the way. And Josh. and several guys, right?

We all assume, you know, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, they're brilliant and their geniuses, but just because somebody's really fast and makes wow plays, doesn't mean they're not brilliant, right? It's just that's not where our eye goes. With Caleb, and I've worked him out a ton. I had a, you would have loved an all-time throwing session, just me, him, and Burrow up here in L.A. this offseason.

But one of the things is, I'd ask them on our show, you know, you went and learned Lincoln's offense when you go to Oklahoma. Who'd you watch? Right? You learn a new offense. You're watching the game tape. You can choose from Kyler Murray, number one pick Heisman Trophy, Baker Mayfield, number one pick Heisman Trophy,

or Jalen Hertz, who's played in Super Bowl last year. And it was interesting, he goes, the other, two of those guys are so athletic. I didn't want to rely on that. And so I actually watched, even though Baker's a really good athlete, you just can't compare him to Kyler and Jalen athletically. He goes, I actually watched all Baker. And so just the, just the, uh, the maturity to really look at that and go,

let me look at a way this guy played in this offense and was asked. I know I can run around, and he might be the best athlete of the three of them. But let me watch and learn that side of it. And I think with Caleb, what it feels like to me, you just named a bunch of great college quarterbacks. And there's another list, too, of more guys. Those are all great college quarterbacks. It looks like Caleb would be one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL today if he was playing,

I think. I think he'd be playing at a high level in the NFL. It looks like he's getting to play one more year against some college kids. Yeah, and I think there are, you see this from time to. a time or a guy. It doesn't happen a lot, but you'll see, you know, like Justin Jefferson. I remember when he was in college, you're like, oh, that's a pro playing on Saturday. Jamar Chase had a little bit of that.

And you do get from, there's about one kid or two kids a year in college football. And you're like, yeah, that's a pro who plays on Saturday. I feel that with Caleb. Yeah. By the way, what a benefit to not only get Lincoln Riley, but Cliff Kingsbury. 100%. Who can say, okay, this is what you're going to see. This is what you're not.

It's such an advantage for him. Jordan Palmer, quarterback consultant. six years in the NFL. Anything else here? Quarterback Summit. Let's say I'm a dad. Got a kid's quarterback. Where do I go to find you? Cubeysummit.com. Run camps around the country called the Summit Tour and then spend the rest of the time working

with college and pro guys. Look great. You're in shape. Looks like you can play today. Thank you. I play more cats than anybody my age other than Aaron. You get a call from New York area code. Could be the Jets.

It ain't going to be me. I know that. Call my brother. I'd go get Andy Dalton, I thought, was not a bad fit. Yeah, there's some guys I'm here in Carson. Wentz, but there's some guy, just get somebody else in the room, or who knows which way this is going to go with Zach, and I hope it goes awesome for him. I think he's learned a lot in a short amount of time being around Aaron, but add somebody to that room who's just started 50 games.

You know what I mean? He's just played a lot. Great seeing you, man. Thanks for having all your success. We'll have him back in a month or two. We'll do a little deep dive on all the young quarterbacks. We have footage and that sort of stuff. Jay Mack in the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. I heard it say Carson, I almost vomited. Now settle down. He's got a lot. They should not go get him.

Yeah, thank you. Thank you. See? Told you. He's not a fan, right? He didn't do well in the big city. Philadelphia ate him up. Locker room.

I tried to tell coward about the locker room yesterday. Tell, go ahead. I was saying, you know, you always want to get more love in the locker room than out of the locker room. Yeah, say that again to the audience on the mic so they can hear you. You always want to get more love in the locker room than outside the locker room. You don't care. I mean, nothing against the fans, but it's about the dudes.

The dudes in the locker room don't care what the people outside the locker room think of you. If they all hate you, if they're outside the locker room, all the media and fans hate you, but inside the locker room they love you, then it doesn't matter, right? But if everybody, so I was saying Russell Wilson, you know, you're outside the locker room, everybody in Seattle loved them. Legion boom didn't love them. You know, there's a problem, right? But Baker, Mayfield and Cam Newton are two guys where ask anybody who's played with them.

They love them. They love them. But we all, you know, at the media and all that stuff. We, you can look at Colin and say that. well and he was on yesterday it was great and i said we have this little game called take you know do you want to do this or take the sack and i said would you want to fill in for jason mackinty and be calling cowherd's co-host or take the sack what did he say oh take the sack and then he said to you i thought we're going to do it on the air but he said well tell little call and i said hello

i have not by the way deep teammates love him teammates love him and i've also said great dad good bye i know people he also So said, you're the best in the business. You're great at what you do. It doesn't mean not to agree with you. By the way, I know people that know Baker. Great friend. Great guy.

Super loyal dude. No, no, no. The guy, I know two people that know him, love Baker. Teammates always say this. Like Sam Donald, you know, got kind of hos in Carolina and they bring in Baker. He's like, too, Baker's the man. So it's great. This team made the decision.

This guy's great, and they're tight. Listen, this is hard. I said the other day, quarterbacking in the league, people say it's the hardest thing. I could argue so was finding a quarterback. Outside of a Caleb or a Trevor, where you land's about 80% of it. You get the wrong coordinator, you get a stubborn owner,

you get an impulsive. Carson Wentz had a good season indie, and the owner's like, get him out of here. You get 27 touchdown seven picks. Get him out of here. And all of a sudden now you're just flailing away. Like it's hard. While we got him here,

are you hearing anything on Justin Fields in Chicago? Just that it could get ugly right quick. That's what I think. Remember that coach who came in here? Somebody's going to get. Tampa this week. Oh, yeah. They're in Tampa?

Mm-hmm. They're in Tampa. That is a good game. Yeah. Tampa's got some dudes. They got a bunch of guys who won a Super Bowl. They got two of the best linebackers in football. You got two receivers who can get open and make plays. That play that Chris Bobbin made on the sideline in four-minute offense, ripping out route, and he makes a diving catch. He's been blocking all day. How about this guy? Has Baker on and asks him a question. I love that. How about Coward saying we'll have you back in like four or six weeks? You know what? You got this guy back. Baker's all this stuff.

Yeah. I qualify my Baker comments constantly by saying, I've said this before. Beautiful wife, good guy, did not like the call out on the medical staff. That drove me, that one really bothered me. Maturity. Confidence here, maturity was here.

I say that how good you are is basically how well you handle success in adversity. And there's people who handle success really well. And then when adversity hits, it ruins them. We've got a long less of those, right? I think he's world-class at handling adversity. Two different schools said I got nice. 90 scholarships. You can't have one.

Heisman finalist twice wins at once. No's number one overall. I think when his backs against the wall. He's had his best. The data, I doesn't forget what he is as a guy. The data shows me that when he's counted out, pretty freaking good. That's one of the all-time great college football seasons ever.

It's in top three. How about this? Bears bucks this weekend. He just got me all fired up for that. Let me squeeze him one more Kingsbury roll. And I also love Atlanta. Atlanta's got... Green Bay.

Green Bay. I don't know. Desmond Ritter, I'm going to wait and see. I just need more. He's a client, but that run game, hey, this dude, Bijon, by the way, did you see that bubble scurdy he scored on? Oh, yeah. He looks like he's 190. He's 225. By the way, he reminds me a little bit of Ladani and Tomlinson. I'm saying Marshall Falk. He's not Reggie Bush. No, that's not what he is.

And the way that Art knows how to use backs and get him open and get him in that run game. Think about how good they were last year. And then they took this running back to the seventh pick. I had a GM tell me that he was one of the cleanest players. Block, catch, block a road. Like, they're like, I don't know if you take a running guy. Durability, all of it. No, like he, the player, the GM said he's the cleanest player in this draft,

and he may have been the cleanest player in the last couple. Like, there's no criticism of him. No. Guy, catch, a block. Great dude, marketable, the whole thing. It's just, the position is, do you go to, and by the way, Atlanta's got pits, Drake London. Well, the other thing is they have a second-year guy on a six-round pick contract, so they don't have to give them the ball replay.

This Tyler Ler's years, like, you can totally have Bijon on a pitch count. So easy. It's not like you're putting in a backup. You're putting in a guy who broke the rookie rushing record in Atlanta, who's in a year or two of a day. They got them for three more years. They don't have to pay anybody. Arthur Smith's afraid to use his client.

What's that all about? What's that? Yeah, 100 yards fast. It's like six minutes left. I know. They just. Make a call. Yeah.

They didn't push the ball on the field. No, they're just. That was the game plan. We're going to run it. We're going to throw play action. The first throw of the game should have been picked. You know, so then all of a sudden, whoa, wait a sick. The ball got batted down by a D-Line, but it should have been picked.

Yeah. Maybe six. Yeah. So it's like, all right. So let him settle in. He'll be fun. Jordan Palmer, great stuff. Hey, we're going to take a break, come back.

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Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jette. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s.

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Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So we got Vieter. Vikings Eagles tomorrow night. Vikings had that week one loss to Tampa 2017. Kirk Cousins put up big numbers but did have, I think, two fumbles and an interception. You know, Kevin O'Connell wants to see Cousins being more aggressive going forward. You know, hit Justin on an explosive. We had hit another, you know, decent play down there to still having a couple timeouts there and the ability to kind of manipulate the end of the half there. there's no question that we would have loved to finish that drive with a touchdown, but always want him to be aggressive, play what he sees.

And, you know, he did a lot of really good things yesterday as well to help us stay in the football game, despite the turnovers and the penalties, you know, being so favored critically and, you know, against us. I have a feeling Philadelphia is going to play pretty well in that game. Interesting. I was just going to bring it up. So there's Vikings money coming in all week. Eagles do have some injuries. I think three defensive starters are either out or questionable. But the Vikings, they just ruled out their center,

so they're going to be starting an undrafted guy who's a converted guard. Against Jalen Carter. Jailen Carter dominated the Patriots in like 32 steps. He was everywhere. And then their left tackle, Derosau is injured, and we don't know if he's going to go. So, like, I don't see how people are back in the Vikings here. I think it's just the Eagles did not look great. Well, it's also first game.

They didn't play starters in the preseason much. Belichick's a great defensive mind against younger quarterbacks. And it was on the road. Now you come home. Minnesota's defense was a disaster last year. They got rid of Dalvin Cook, less of a running game. Now they're missing their center. Yeah, Flores blitzed a lot against Tampa trying to rattle Baker.

Good luck, blitzing. J. Linertz and leaving those corners on islands. A.J. Brown, he could eat. I like the Eagles. I don't get it. All right. Next up, Baker Mayfield. who we just talked about with Jordan Palmer.

Baker was up and down, bad first half, but came on strong in the second half. Tampa gets the dub. According to running back, Rashad White, Baker's second half success was due to the quarterback's code cracking. They came in locker room, like, I mean, literally at halftime. He said, I got it. Like, we got all these signals.

Like, we in there talking like as an office. Like, he's like, I know all these signals. If they do this, they're going into cover two. They do this. They're going to cover three. Every time I alert this, they drop him. and they do this signal, they drop him back to this. And I'm like, wow, like, you know, that's amazing because, I mean, like, I know certain

coverages, but I don't know a lot like that. But I would just listen to them. We just listened to them. We just kind of understood. Hmm. Hmm. That Chicago Bear game. Where's that game out?

Tampa. What's the number on that? That's it. That is. Tampa, which was pegged to be one of the worst teams in the league, is now favored by three in week two. I don't know. I think it's a red flag.

I want to go bears here. Yeah. I think so, too. Chicago plus three, I'll take. Yeah, if it's three. Eagles pulled off that road win against the Patriots, but the offense struggled, as we talked about. Colin, I didn't even realize this,

Dallas Goddard and D. Andre Swift, who they got to the backfield, combined for two touches. Dallas Goddard is like one of the better tight ends in the league. Swift's supposed to be a factor. O.C. Brian Johnson had this to say about getting a more action. Fortunately for us, we have some excellent skill position players

who are all very very. deserving of a bunch of touches and can make game-changing plays when they get the ball in their hand. So, you know, it's up to us to really, really, like you said, just be mindful of that and, you know, and try to get those guys, get those guys going within the Florida game. We have to be really, really mindful of that and get, you know, all of our players involved. You know, so I think it's, that's a scenario. You know, Dallas, obviously is a fantastic player. And, you know, we've got to do a great job to try to find ways to get them the ball. I think Philadelphia is going to bounce back. Be a bad. Just, listen, on the road,

Belichick, didn't play in the preseason. Like, I think week one, it was a choppy week. I mean, you thought Atlanta was going to look great. And they, they did not look great. Are there too many mouths to feed in Philly? I mean, you've got to keep A.J. Brown happy. You got to keep Devonbi. I think the reason they have, they want this is they want Jailun running less. I don't I thought so, too, and then against a Patriots. How many times did he run the ball? It felt like he was doing a lot of running. Well, I think Belichick put everything into that game.

Well, I just think Belichick opening games in Foxborough. Bill's got three weeks to dive deep on one opponent. I mean, Philadelphia's got, I mean, how many Patriots would start for the Eagles of the 22, four, five? I mean, their strength is on defense. Christian Gonzalez is a rookie. He looked really good. But, I mean, the takeaway is you give a great. You know, you give Sean McVeigh a chance to dial down with a new run game against Seattle,

and that may be as good as the Rams look for a while. Yeah. By the way, Christian Gonzalez, the rookie out of Oregon. Good luck against Tyree Kill this week. Tyreeko's coming off 11 for 215, I think, against the Chargers. Let me tell you, they're going to bracket a little. He's not going to have that kind of game. I would hope so.

By the way, Tyree Kill, when he played for the Chiefs, do you remember how badly he killed Belichick in big spots? Yeah. There was a one AFC title game, right? Mahomes was the quarterback, too. That helps. I mean, listen, Tua, Tua looks pretty capable back there, man. You don't think Tua's never lost to Belichick, by the way.

No, I'm not, I think they have a chance to win, but I don't think he's going to line it up for 400-something yards. I think Belichick's going to take away the middle of the field. They'll bracket Tirek, and it'll be a win, but it won't be one of these. I mean, Miami's did whatever they wanted in that game. Third and 12 didn't even matter. They did whatever they wanted. That's not, Brandon Staley's not Belichick.

Interesting. So you like Patriots there, huh? I think the game's going to be close. Very close. Yeah, I mean, it's Belich. Vic Fongio. How often do teams drop 38 on Bill? Not very much.

I thought Mac Jones looked very good. Yeah, when you're down 16, nothing, and chucking it 54 times, you're going to look decent. You know, I'm at, we're on polar opposites on Mac Jones. I know. we are. You think he's something. No, I'm right. You're wrong. Daniel Jones or Mack Jones? Mac Jones. Zach Wilson? No, I can't. Mac Jones. Can't do it with a straight face.

Are you done? Yeah. All right. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. So all sorts of good stuff today. That, you know, that, um, that Chicago, you know, Week one, there were some bad performances, like some old lines look bad, some quarterback struggled. I think the two teams that I was like, wow, I thought Jordan Love and Green Bay's offense.

And I know Chicago's defense isn't great, but I thought it was so efficient on third and fourth down. I thought it was great. And the Rams, well, in both cases, offensive coach. And you got really good O line play. Now, I'm not sure if the Rams O line is great, but you got very good O line play with an offensive coach. And in both instances, Matt Lowe,

Fleur, great old line play. Jordan Love looked incredibly comfortable. And Matt Stafford, good line play. Matt Stafford with McVeigh's game pant looks so comfortable. And I just, it's interesting. Justin Fields never looks comfortable. That's going to be the key. Can they give him some protection in Tampa? Because it's, you know, so much of this sport. That's why when Aaron left, I said this, when Aaron left the Packers for the Jets, I said, never forget. Aaron never had a bad O-line in Green Bay. Most were top 10 to 12. When's the last Jets O-line that was great? It was Nick Mangold to Brickshaw Ferguson. It was like 10 years ago. So Aaron's going to play in front of his worst O-line ever. For older quarterbacks, that is an issue. Now, Justin's E Young,

Justin Field is young, but you don't want to be running for your life. He's always, I mean, you can tell he's been hit enough. Watch his feet. If he didn't have his first guy open or second, Justin's moving. It's survival back there. By the way, whatever the rushing prop is for Justin Fields, take the over against Tampa. Tampa loves a blitz. They're going to be coming after him, and Justin's going to be able to outrun those old linebackers

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