The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Drew Brees joins The Herd

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

Legendary QB Drew Brees joins the show to talk about getting elected into the Hall of Fame his first time on the ballot and to discuss the parallels between his journey and Sam Darnold's. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Remember when baseball had the Mitchell report? And I always hated that. And I'm like, well, you took like two clubhouses. You took a couple of, you know, AL East clubhouses and Eastern like Met Clubhouse or Red Sox or Yankee Clubhouse. That's not a macro look. The Mitchell report I always thought was unfair.

And maybe I'm talking to the wrong people. Albert Breer, Monday morning quarterback joins us. Everybody's telling me he's a good prospect. I mean, to beat Ohio State. and that Miami defense, I thought against Miami late, it was unbelievable. And Oregon. I mean, they were in so many close games and they won all of them. I mean, what are your people telling you on Mendoza?

I think it's probably similar to what you're hearing. You know, like, I think the best way to look at this is always with the historical context and how would he fit into other draft classes. And I don't think he would be the number one overall pick in every draft is the way that I would term it. If you go back two years ago when Caleb Williams went first, Jaden Daniels went second, Drake May went third, Pennix went eighth, McCarthy went 10th, and Knicks went 12th. The consensus I've gotten is that he would have been the fourth of those quarterbacks,

so right in the middle. And the cop I've gotten is Jared Gough. And I think if you look at him physically, what he's able to do, how natural a stroke he's got, the composure he has working from the pocket, his ability to play off a play action. A lot of RPO stuff at Indiana the same way there was at Cal all those years ago. You can see the comp there. So, you know, I think most teams like the makeup.

They like how much he's won. They like the accuracy. They think even though he hasn't played in a true pro style offense, he's got the ability to do that based on his ability to process. but is he physically what, you know, say Drake May was coming out of North Carolina or Jane Daniels was coming at LSU or Caleb Williams was coming out of USC. He's not that. Okay.

So we've got on fourth or fifth in that draft. Did they like him better than J.J. McCarthy? Yes, and that's what I'm saying. Better than Pennix, better than McCarthy, better than Nicks. But not as good as those others. And look, like Colin, I think those other three, I mean, one of them was just in the Super Bowl. Yeah. The other one was in the NFC, another one was in the NFC title game last year. Yeah. And then the third one is Caleb Williams, you know, who was in the divisional

round of the playoffs and went toe to toe with Matthew Stafford. So I, like, I, I think the bar would be pretty high if the bar is 24, the 24 draft. But I'm just using that as a, for example, there are other draft classes where he would have gone number one overall. I think he would have been in the mix last year with Cam Ward. You know, it was, I was, I was, I was, I was saying, and this is just my interpretation, I grew up out west, you grew up out east. I think you grew up out east, right? And I always had this theory when I worked at the other place, ESPN, that West Coast people all go east. By the time they're 25, for business to go to Europe, connecting flight, they want to see New York City.

Eastern people don't necessarily go west. When I worked at ESPN, half the building thought Pittsburgh was west. I mean, they thought anything west of the Hudson River was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I didn't even know flight from Denver, right? And so, West Coast fans pay attention to the Yankees, the Red Sox, the Eagles. A lot of Patriot fans are like, I don't know anything about Seattle. And I don't think they understand how great Mike McDonald may be the next Sean McVay and how great the GM is. he's Howie Roseman, but actually in the draft the last four years, better. And so when I look at Seattle, I think a lot of fans that are removed from the Pacific Northwest,

like don't realize how good and deep this roster is. I mean, everybody likes to copy Cat in this league. I don't think you can copy what Seattle's done, can you? Right. And I agree. I think like he's got a Hall of Fame case now. John Schneider does. Like having one with two completely different groups.

you know, like I, and you look at the roster and that's what's sustainable about it is that there's so many young players that went, and I think we talked about this before the year, right? Like the Seattle Seahawks were one of those teams that had a lot of very good young players, where if those players could become great players, well, then they'd really have something. And we know about the older veterans on the team Leonard Williams, Cooper Cup guys they got from the outside, right, that have been important pieces for them. Ernest Jones is another one of those. but you look at the young guys that they've drafted and developed and how many of those guys elevated this year. Jackson Smith and Jigba, Charles Cross, Kenneth Walker, Byron Murphy became a monster on the defensive line.

Devin Witherspoon, I think could have been Super Bowl MVP. Then this year they draft Nicky Manwari and Gray Zabel. Wow. And it's interesting. You know, I think John Schneider, one of the best things about him is he keeps evolving, right? So his ability to do this was part of a self-evaluation after some of the Legion of Boom guys started to age out,

where he went back and looked at it and said, where have we started making our mistakes? And their mistakes were made when they were reaching for guys, right? And you see the result now where they don't reach as much. Jackson Smith and Jigba is a great example of it. The top-rated guy on their board at the time, right, when they were picking there, I think it was 20th overall in the 2020-3 draft. At the time, they had D.K. Metcalfe and Tyler Lockett on big contracts.

but they picked him anyway because he's a great player. And now the other two guys are gone, and JSN is the best receiver in football. So it's just decisions like that, the ability to self-evaluate, the ability to just go and find great players. The Seahawks have a chance to be very good for a very long time because they've continued to look in the mirror.

They've continued to find ways to get great players in the roster. They've found solutions at quarterback, and they knew when to say when. I mean, you give John Schneider credit for the coach, too, right? Like, he was the one who went out and found Mike McDonald and was willing to wait three weeks for Mike McDonald when everybody else was snapping up their head coaches. There were eight teams that had openings that year. So Schneider deserves a ton of credit for what's happened. There are no question.

And it's hard to replicate because so much of it is just about the nuts and bolts of being a GM, which is about getting good people in the building. I want to talk to you about the coaching hires. So I think it was the athletic one out and asked nine executives and Joe Brady ranked very low. And I said, what's happening in Buffalo was fascinating because Brandon Bean's already getting heat locally, fans and media on his drafting. So now he goes in the building to hire the replacement for a very good coach. If you look at the schedule next year for the Buffalo Bills, Albert, we put it up earlier. they are facing the greatest coaching opposition schedule. Vrable twice.

Look at this. Andy Reed, Vrable twice, Harbaugh, Ben Johnson, Peyton, Dan Campbell, Matt Lafleur, Domeko, Ryan, Sean McVeigh. So they're not drafting well. Brandon Means getting a ton of heat.

They hire in the building, and that usually doesn't work. And this schedule, I mean, I think, and I mean, there's an argument that they'll be at a coaching deficit,

it, even if Brady's solid in nine games, 10 games. Let's say it goes sideways in Buffalo. Maybe I'll just start it with this. I think the heat's greater than Brandon Bean wants to acknowledge the media, the fans. I think Joe Brady, realistically, at Thanksgiving, if they're struggling against this schedule, I think the heat gets ratcheted up. That sounds crazy, right? Yeah, there's pressure on everybody.

because of the quarterback. I mean, let's make no mistake about this. I mean, he's going to be 30 years old this offseason, and there's a ton of pressure on everybody in that building to win while he's still in his prime. And because of the amount of damage he's taken on because of his play style, right? Like, you don't know whether or not he's going to be able to, he has every intention of playing until he's 40, but you don't know, like, is it going to be the same at 34?

Is it going to be the same at 36? And so what that does is it creates a situation where there's pressure on everyone in there to try to maximize what they have with Josh Allen and the here and the now. And so a lot of it for Joe Brady is going to be about getting a better return on investment from the players they've already paid. And this is the mistake that people make with them. People think like, okay, like the window is closing. It's not. It's whether or not this second group of players that they put around Josh Allen is as good as the first group. And so it's Greg Rousseau, it's Terrell Bernard, it's Kahliel Shakir, it's Dalton Kincaid,

it's Christian Benford, it's James Cook, it's all of these guys that now have contracts, where you're looking at them saying, can they elevate? And that's going to be the pressure on Joe Brady and his staff, maximizing those guys. Now, I think they are going to be aggressive, and they could go out and sign somebody like Alec Pierce from the Colts, who could be a difference maker for them, they're going to see those sorts of things. but because of the way that Brandon Beans built, they are locked in with a core that they have right now.

And I think the question is going to be, can that core be good enough to compete for a championship? And the pressure now falls on the coaching staff to get the most out of those guys. I said yesterday to defend Drake May, one year ago from about, you know, today, Sam Donald got sacked nine times and was dreadful against the Rams. Yep.

A year later, he's hoisting a trophy. things change. Drake May was awful, but it's also Seattle's defense. But his inefficiency, he looked rattled, nervous, may have not been 100%. Do you think privately there are some concerns about not just a Super Bowl, he was a turnover mess for about a month at the end, once they played good teams. The schedule was so easy. Once they ratcheted up defenses, he looked overwhelmed a lot.

You think privately there's a little concern? I would tell you privately what they're saying right now is about where he's at. And that, you know, I think like what you saw in the playoffs was sort of reflective of some of the stuff that you saw on the college tape, which was his first year, North Carolina. A lot of things, first year starting at North Carolina in 22, a lot of things were right around him. And he was great and looked like a number one pick in the draft. and then the next year lost his offensive coordinator. I believe Phil Longgo went to Wisconsin. Yeah.

He lost his best receiver. I think his best receiver that year was Josh Downs. You'd have to look that up. There was an eligibility question with his best receiver coming back the next year. That was Tess Walker. So there were all these moving parts. And he started to have to take on more and sort of played some hero ball. And that wound up costing him in the evaluation of some teams, right?

And so, like, what you've seen over the course of his career, sort of a microcosm of that. Year one, some ups, some downs, he had to carry that group because it wasn't a very good team. Year two, they get a lot better. The schedule contributes to it. And you see a guy who can go out there and be really effective and efficient and play smart football. And then when you get to the playoffs, it flips, right? Where they went from either being talent-acquated or having a talent advantage. And now they're in these playoff settings where the other day.

team has better players than they do. You know, when you're talking about the defense versus the offense. And you look at it. They played in the playoffs. It was the Chargers, the Texans, the Broncos, and the Seahawks. That might be four of the five best defenses in football, Colin. And so, like, I think that that's part of it, you know, is like that there was more on Drake to carry the team in the playoffs.

And I think you saw some of the bad habits come back. They're confident that he's a smart kid. They're confident that he has got the right sort of head on his shoulders for all this, that he's resilient, and that he's a hard enough worker to get through it. But I think what you saw on the playoffs was maybe a little bit more of a reflection of where he's truly at. Now, I voted for him for MVP. I think he did more to carry his team than anybody in football this year. But if you look at him and how he looked against that Seattle defense with all they throw at you versus how Matthew Stafford looked two weeks earlier, that's where. I think you see a little bit of the learning curve, you know?

And look, he's 23 years old. So there's every reason to believe he's going to get there, but it doesn't happen overnight. Good stuff. Monday morning quarterback, Albert Brewer is always, buddy, great seeing you. All right, thanks, Colin. You bet. Yeah, it's, there's just, there's just no other way to put it.

I said it last week. Can't be president until you're 35. Stafford's life experience, quarterback experience, snaps in the facility, all the film he's watched, all his starts and Drake May, Drake May can't possibly be Matt Stafford. He can't possibly go to the line of scrimmage

and look at that Rubik's Cube and flip it. He just can't. He's too young. He can't do it. That's why I thought Stafford was the MVP. Stafford goes to the line and knows the why. Drake May is still trying to figure out the what. The gap between them in knowledge pre-snap is, it's the Grand Canyon.

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This is the herd line news. All right, I think we're worn out on your Seattle Seahawks, so let's go to your second favorite team, Colin. The Denver Broncos and Bo Nix and Sean Payton, they are close, it sounds like, to replacing their OC, Joe Lombard. Everybody knew it was going to be Davis Webb, but how about this one, Colin? Davis Webb reportedly will be calling plays in Denver. Now, I am very dubious of this. Sean Payton has obviously called plays since he's been a head coach. And now he's going to give it up for Davis Webb, a first-time play caller.

This is a shocking development. I don't want to say I don't believe it, but I'll believe it when I see it. Can I say that? I think Sean has wanted to get off play calling. Oh, okay. and maybe was loyal to Lombardi, but did not necessarily completely trust him. And I think he thinks Davis Webb, that's why he made the move, is sort of next level. He's one of these sharp young guys.

That's nothing against Joe Lombardi, but that was his loyal buddy and ally. That doesn't necessarily mean you think he can be Ben Johnson. So I think you see this on staffs all the time where, you know, you've got your friends, you hire people that you like and respect, but do you really think they're at the top, top of the food chain. They're the next Mike McDonald or Sean McVeigh. And I'm not saying Davis Webb is. But there is a sense around the league that like a D'Amico Ryan's before he got hired, people are talking about this young coach as potentially a next great young coach. Everybody loves the shiny new thing, right? Davis Webb. I mean, he was in the league like,

what, six years ago, former Texas Tech quarterback. Like, yeah, I don't know. The excitement, listen, he's probably going to be good. But the excitement over every new thing. How about this, Colin, is this Sean Payton lining up a succession plan for him? Hey, we got Bownicks on the rookie deal for two more years. Let's try to win a Super Bowl. I walk in for off into the sunset and Davis Webb takes over for me. I think Sean wants the coach more than two years. I would say maybe four years, four more years. Well, Davis Webb's not sticking around for four years as an OC. If you're hot and you're like you're one of these superstars, you stay around one, maybe two, at best three, and then, you know, you're looking for a head coaching gig. But, you're

But it's weird. You contrast this with what's going on in Seattle. Do we like it? I mean, they handed it off in-house. I thought we didn't love that. It's different. You didn't lose a guy who elevated. You fired a guy. You did get off a guy. That's different. When you're firing a guy and then replacing in-house, that's like, we got a guy better in-house that has proved. When a guy leaves and upgrades in-house, the answer just, generally isn't really good guy in house. So I think they feel different. Okay. Well, we'll see. We'll see with the Broncos.

Let's move on to John Harbaugh, Jesse Minter, and the Baltimore Ravens. So you move off Harbaugh, you bring in Minter, and his first order of business is going to have to figure out this Lamar Jackson contract, Colin. Interestingly, the owner, Steve Bishotti, remember last month, he said he wants to have an extension finalized before free agency. Colin, is that a surprise to you? a new deal for Lamar before free agency? No. He has two years left on his

five-year, $260 million deal. That's not, this is why I'm not buying them as a Super Bowl team. Got it. I just, you can't pay your quarterback this level. We saw Mahomes and Allen, who are better quarterbacks. You have limitations in your roster if you want to be the highest paid guy.

Congrats, but you're not a Super Bowl team. How much do you think Minter discussed this with Machadi? Like, hey, what are we doing at quarterback? How much are you paying Lamar? Well, Minter wanted a job, and Baltimore is a good job. You take the job. Yeah. Lamar, third highest cap hit next season, second in 2027. Now, this is where it gets interesting, Colin.

Lamar, remember the last time they went to negotiating, he said he wanted fully guaranteed deal. Remember that? It was ugly. His mom was his agent, and it was getting, it was on the heels with Sean Watson deal, and he wanted fully guaranteed. Is this one going to get messy in Baltimore? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Well, we shall see. Finally, let's go to Todd McShay's mock draft. He was on the show yesterday. And one interesting thing we wanted to revisit here is his claim or view in that Ty Simpson should be a good fit in the Sean McVeigh offense to replace Matt Stafford, not obviously next year.

But here's McVe. Here he is talking McShay on Ty Simpson to the Rams. I think with McVeigh, with one year by. behind Stafford, let's say, in that offensive system with a coach's son's mind, I think that could work. I put him at 13 in this mock draft. As of right now, I don't think that that's going to happen. But wait for it.

Like, too many, I've been doing this two and a half decades as we get closer without other quarterbacks, someone's going to rise. And I could see Ty winning over a lot of coaches in those meetings. You're close to McVeigh. I'm not close to McVeigh. I have a good source on the. I'm sorry, not McVeigh. McShay,

Todd Mishay, sorry. So, we know how this process works. When you talk draft, people want to talk skill position guys and quarterbacks. They don't want to talk the big uglies on the offensive line. We know that matters more. But is this McShay pumping up a quarterback because really, it looks like we're a one quarterback in the first round right now, and that's not sexy for drafts? No, I think it's a great draft.

I think it's a lot of big markets and fascinating teams. I mean, even the Rams and the chiefs are up there. I think it's a very good draft. I don't think it's a, I mean, you got a star quarterback. I don't think McShay is pumping up anything. I think Ty Simpson, you know, there's reasons. I think he has a nice arm. I think he has a plus arm, actually.

I don't see him as a plus arm. I think he's got a good arm. I don't see him as a first round guy, but I also didn't see Jackson Dart as a first round guy. I thought Jackson dart was middle or upper second round, and Jackson had a nice rookie year. Well, he also went like 25-ish. Well, that's the Ram's second pick is near the bottom.

Well, that's not horrible. It's weird. I like Ty Simpson all season, Colin. And then he got so much love. It was like top 10. I was like, wait a minute. I saw the guy, had some good comebacks. And he started to crater late, only started for one year.

I don't know. I'm thinking second round would be ideal. Jets will take him in the second. We'll gladly take him in the second. They could get L.W. They're not winning. They could literally get Caleb Williams, and it would go sideways. Oh.

Come on. Well, it did with Sam Darnel. He looks pretty good. He was not good back then. He got better. Yeah. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

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I was just watching some of that Saints Super Bowl with the coach, Colts. Man, that was well-coached, stacked roster, Drew Brees. And now he is a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's joining us live from New York. He was doing stuff with the company Stretch Zone. I'll get to that in a second. So it's interesting. We have footage of Dan Fouts, former Oregon Duck Charger, knocking on the door.

and so, I mean, you got a sense it could happen. So like just take me to that moment. When you saw Dan, what did you think? It was a shock, but really it was like the setup before that. So it was my birthday a few days prior to that. And I share a birthday with my son, Baylon, who was the one-year-old that I held up at Super Bowl, who's now 17 and driving, by the way. So the weekend was all about him.

So Monday rolls around. and my daughter, who's 11 years old, who was like my absolute sweetheart, it's like, Dad, I want to take you out to eat at 5 o'clock. And so I'm like, my heart's melting. I'm like, oh, absolutely, sweetie. So be ready by 5. So I'm ready. My wife's ready.

My daughter's ready. And the boys are messing around upstairs. I'm like, boys, let's go. Ryland said 5 o'clock. We're out the door. They're still messing around. Like, I'm starting to get frustrated. I'm literally about to leave the boys.

Like, they're being disrespectful. We're leaving. Like, teach them a lesson. And then there's a knock of the day. door and I'm like, who's knocking at the door? We're trying to get out of the house, you know? And so then there's Dan Fouts and 10 cameras, you know, and it's like, oh, boy, you got me. Oh, that is a great, that is a great story.

You were just about to teach your son's a life lesson and then you get a Lifetime Achievement Award. That's how it should work. That's right. In the meantime, my wife told them like, hey, you guys stall, stall until they knock on the door. We can't leave. You know, so she had this whole thing orchestrated the whole time. Oh, that's great. So, you know, it's funny.

People were saying Sam Darnold, they said, oh, Sam, you know, Colin, you love Darnold. He didn't do anything. And I joked. I said, yeah, he didn't throw a pick. He didn't fumble. He didn't have multiple sacks. And I went back and looked this up.

Here are Super Bowl winning quarterbacks with no playoff turnovers. Drew Brees, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, and Sam Darnold. And what do you have in common? You're great. Your coaches are great and your rosters were really good. I'm watching your Saints highlights during the break. I'm like, man, you guys had good players. Take me to that playoff run by you.

Did you understand Drew? This is the best roster I may have had. There are certain throws. Maybe I won't make this playoff run. You know, obviously we were ultra confident, you know, with that team and going into the 09 playoffs. If you recall, we started off 13 and 0. You know, we were rolling. We lost a tough one to Dallas.

Then we lost a tough one to Tampa where we lost a or we missed the field going overtime. Ironically, in the exact same spot where we made the field goal in the NFC Championship to advance the suit. But I think when we looked at kind of our road through the playoffs, look, it was a gauntlet. You know, Kurt Warner was coming to town, Hall of Fame quarterback, right? They were airing it out. Then NFC championship, it was Brett Farve and that Vikings team, which was as good a Vikings team as I've ever seen. And then obviously we were going to play, you know, Peyton Manning. arguably a team that could have been undefeated that year.

They kind of just threw the last two games so they could rest their starters. So, like, we kind of knew what was ahead of us, and yet we knew that if we played our game and executed the way that we knew that we could, that we could win. And I would always define our team as a somewhat aggressive team, you know, knowing Sean Payton, knowing kind of the way he likes to call a game, I think it also equipped and empowered me as the quarterback, though, in a lot of cases where I knew he was going to be aggressive.

I knew he was going to dial it up, but I also knew that he had trust and confidence to me to make great decisions, to check the ball down if it wasn't there, to not take any unnecessary chances because, hey, we'll come back and call it again. And so a lot of that confidence, a lot of playing that way and at that level was the result of the confidence that I knew he had in me. Do you have a little soft spot for Darnold based on your first couple years weren't perfect and Darnold's first several weren't? When you look at Sam, do you find yourself like rooting for him because that journey, you have some similarities. A thousand percent. A thousand percent. And honestly, I think it embodies all the lessons that we hope to teach our kids through sports and through team athletics. And that is that you will face adversity.

You will face failure and disappointment. And it's how you react to it that matters. and while it didn't work at the first couple teams that he went to, he continued to work. He continued to recognize where he needed to get better and learn. And, man, I look at the journey that he traveled. And while it wasn't maybe the road that he would have envisioned when he first got in the league, it was meant to be. And it's what has brought out the best in him and allowed him to play the way that he has,

lead the way that he has, and also inspire others the way that he has. When I think Drew, when I think Drew Breeze, if somebody said, give me a sentence for every quarterback that played, and people said Drew Breeze, and I'd be like, that's the most accurate quarterback I've ever seen play. And I've always had this feeling, and I was, I'm clearly wrong, but I always had this feeling I could improve a lot about a quarterback. I can't make you bigger. But if you're not accurate, you're never going to be super accurate. Like it did. Well, and by the way, I think accuracy. is very important.

So you, first couple years in the league, were around 60%, and then you end as the most accurate quarterback any of us have ever seen. And it was that, and I look at Caleb Williams, people bang on him, and I'm like,

well, he's got a lot of horsepower. If he can get to 63%, I'm kind of good with it. So tell me, you went from like average 60%, and that was a different time in the NFL where that was better than what 60% is today. That was like 65%.

But then you became the most accurate guy. obviously a lot of it is you and the time and the devotion but was it also coaching well you tell me how you got to the greatest most accurate quarterback off pretty accurate like what was it so first off to me accuracy is trust in anticipation so it's the trust in and the chemistry and the in the timing that you develop with the guys that you're throwing to your ability anticipate what's happening given your preparation, your knowledge of your own system. I think it's also understanding what wins and loses in the NFL and the premium that you put on being in a third and short situation than a third and long situation. Well, what's the difference between that?

Well, maybe it was the fact that I took the checkdown as opposed to taking the risk on that play. Like just because I know I can make that throw, you have to have this internal mechanism that kind of tells you, hey, that's a one in ten completion versus I take this checkdown and that gets me to third and four. Well, the chances and probabilities of me converting that are much, much higher than being a third and ten. And so, like, I'll give me, like with Caleb Williams, here's a guy who we watched in college make miraculous place, like run around and do all kinds of stuff. And I think you get wired a certain way early in your career that, hey, this is how I play the game. And then you get into the NFL game and you begin to understand, no, it's more about playing within the system, the timing and rhythm with your feet, taking the completions that you need to take. Occasionally you're going to have to, you know, do the kind of the off script stuff. But for the most part, the game is won and lost by just staying ahead of the chains, getting the ball in your playmaker's hands, making good decisions and being on time and economic.

execute in the offense. So I think that that certainly can come. Yes, there's a, you know, there's something to just the mechanics, right? And the things that she'll continue, like towards the end of my career, I was so tuned with my body. And like when I would miss a throw, why that was, oh, you know, I over, it was too large a stride or my elbow dropped, or I didn't have my front foot out in front of the target. Like I could, I could fix problems immediately, right? Just given the fact that I was so in tune with my body and I knew what would lead to accuracy. So all these things happen with time. But I think the coaching part of it is, hey, open receiver, you know, lived a play other day, make good decisions, you know, never go broke,

taking a profit, completions are at a premium. Yeah. By the way, you may be going through the Lincoln Tunnel right now, but I got to ask you about streets, a stretch zone, a company you're part of, you were all over New York. You were all Wall Street today. You were on the morning, shows what is stretch zone he is in the lincoln tunnel isn't he yeah he that's exactly hey you got me now yes i got you got me in my back hey hey first off before i answer that can we reminisce on the time when literally i was talking to you after we won the super bowl and do you remember that i had to jump off the call because obama was calling on the other line do you do you Do you remember that? We were in the middle of interview and I said,

Colin, I am so sorry. I never thought I would say this, but can I call you back because Obama is calling on the other line to say congratulations. That was probably the first and only time that would ever happen. Yes, I remember it well. So we have a minute left. Tell me about stretch zone. Yeah, forget the Lincoln Tunnel there. Yeah. So stretch zone is the largest and fast. just growing practitioner-led stretching brand in the country. It was something that I

utilized towards the end of my career really to gain every advantage that I possibly could with my recovery, with my flexibility, with my mobility. It made such a difference for me that when I got done playing, I actually sought out the owners and the founders of the company to learn more about it. And before I knew it, I was on the business side, on the franchisor side as an investor, and ambassador and sitting on the board, helping to grow and scale the business. And I always knew that just from my own personal experience anecdotally, that the practice lies. But now we have the research and everything that we just announced to back it up. It shows up to nine people in our study showed increased energy, increased productivity, a higher range of motion, less pain,

better sleep, and just an overall better quality of life. So the stretch zone method applies to anybody, whether you're age 13 or 113, whatever you're trying to accomplish, whether you're, you know, A weakened warrior high-performance athlete or just somebody who's getting a little bit older who's lost the ability to move. Just trying to shave some strokes off your golf game. There's something there for everybody. Well, whether it's former President Obama or the Lincoln Tunnel, we're occasionally interrupted. But Drew always offers great insight. It's great seeing you, buddy, as always I appreciate it.

And a great way to close today's show, Stretch Zone, Drew Brees, who had such great answers on a variety of topics. I absolutely love that Hall of Fame Dan Fouts at the door story. That is just his wife knew she's setting it up. Come on, guys. Come downstairs. You're being disrespectful.

All part of a plan to get Dan Fouts and Drew Brees together for the Gold Jacket moment. All right, we're done today. Great stuff. I want to thank everybody who stopped by, especially Drew. It's the hurt.

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Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.

If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come in too, he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball.

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