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All right, Colin, let's start with Devante Adams.
We spoke about him last week.
He had been 0-4 in NFC championship games, and he's now 0-5, Colin.
This is sad.
Adams was very emotional after the long.
lost to Seattle. Take a listen.
It's tough to talk.
It's tough to focus on that right now.
It's a tough,
tough moment that we're in right now.
So we process the emotions of this
and then worry about that.
But, I mean, obviously I love this team.
I love what this team is about
and the fight that we had all year.
And it's just, it just sucks to come up short.
Yeah, 14 touchdowns.
He has been such an asset for them.
It's an all-star offensive.
cast, but I'd come back.
He just had a tremendous year.
Tremendous year.
Yeah, he had four for 89 in the touchdown yesterday.
He was excellent.
And it just stinks because like every loss the Rams had this season was on special
teams in some way, shape, or four.
Special teams just let him down.
I do think the offseason for the Rams is quite simple.
You know, you probably get another receiver because Devante gets hurt and Puka plays physical.
You have to get a corner back.
Get a corner back?
Three.
And you go out on the market and you hire the best special teams coach.
You probably overpay for somebody.
And you button that up.
And I think you probably go back to the NFC championship.
I mean, if you don't like this quarterback class, they need to tackle a couple of corners, a wide receiver.
And then, you know, those two fifth round picks and a six round pick, that's where you go get.
You know, you go get special teams guys.
Outside linebacker who ends up, you know, was the captain of his college.
special team. There's a lot of guys in the sixth and seventh round. I mean, teams have drafted
long snappers and kickers. They've got to shore it up. I mean, and I, you pay the most for
the coach and then you spend, you know, they've got a couple of seventh round picks. You go find,
I mean, you go draft a receiver who all he did in college for three or four years. He catches
kicks. He's a kick returner with great hands. They have that luxury because they don't have
a ton of needs and they have two firsts. So in a second and a third, so the first four picks,
take care of immediate needs, and then attack the special teams.
Because I'm with you.
You go look at their losses.
Usually there was a special team issue in all those losses.
I mean, you know, this is a tough one for Adams, Colin.
You look at his career.
He had Aaron Rogers, prime Aaron Rogers.
And now as good at Matt Stafford is going to be.
And he hasn't gotten to the Super Bowl.
That's got to be a bitter pill to swallow because, man, that's rough.
All right, let's move on to the next one.
And that is the Eagles offensive coordinator.
job. It is appearing as if nobody wants the job. I'm not going to say it's about Jalen Hertz. You can.
I think this is about Siriani and job security. Siriani will enter this season on the hot seat.
Okay? Whether people want to believe it or not, he's on the hot seat. And as a result, I don't
think any offensive coordinator who's very good wants to go there. McDaniel didn't want to go there.
He's with the Chargers. Debo wants that Bill's job. The other names that have emerged are someone
named Declan Doyle from the Bears. He's in your back, your neck of the woods up there.
and LSUOC Charlie Weiss Jr.
They were in the mix.
Apparently they turned down opportunities to interview.
Colin, where are we here?
I mean, Mike Kafka, the guy from the Giants?
Jim Bob Cooter, remember him?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, the Eagles moved off Nick Foles and Doug Peterson,
who won a Super Bowl in a shocking upset.
So it is a, I've said this before,
the Eagles do a lot of things that poorly run teams do.
It just works for them because they're really well-owned.
and smartly run by Howie Roseman, but it is a high intensity.
You get one year as a coordinator there.
That's what you get.
This is not, you know, it's not Jacksonville or, you know, it took us a couple of years to get going.
You've got until about late October, early November, and if it's not working as a coordinator on either side,
you're getting ravaged every day by that aggressive media.
So this is, you know, a lot of people probably feel like, okay,
But if it's again, when you're Dan Quinn and you bring up an entirely new staff to Washington,
guys get three and four year contracts.
You can get, what's Philadelphia going to do to their OC?
A two-year contract?
And by the way, if they don't like it, you're gone by Thanksgiving or at least end of the year.
So I think it's a, I think there's a lot of potential there.
Now, if you go in and crush and they get, here's the thing, you go in there in Philly, you crush.
you crush. You don't get any credit. Nick Seriani does.
So my take, I mean, if the offense is great,
Seriani retains his job. And you may think, I'm better than Nick Seriani.
So what's the win there? Well, wait a minute. Hold on. Shane Steichen was good there
and ended up getting a head coaching job. Kellynne Moore was very good there.
And now he's a head coach. So you could parlay it into something. And let's remember,
you know, you will be the coach and the offensive play caller for Jalen Hertz,
who's been to two Super Bowls and was the MVP of a Super Bowl.
That's something the guys in his draft class like Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow,
none of those guys have been MVP of a Super Bowl.
So you get to work with Hertz.
I think it's got an opportunity, but if you're an established coach,
I don't know.
This feels like an up-and-coming thing.
Final story, Colin, this just broke within the last hour.
And I think the Pro Bowl is officially done because Shadour Sanders,
yes, Shedur Sanders was named as a Pro Bowl replacement.
likely in place of Drake May, of course, because he's playing in the Super Bowl.
Colin, Sanders becomes the first fifth round rookie to make the Pro Bowl since Puka Nakuwa.
He threw seven touchdowns and ten picks in a forgettable rookie year, and he's now a pro bowler.
It's over.
The Pro Bowl officially is cooked, and I don't want to hear anybody.
Colin, you and I, we will not do this again on the show.
We will not say, hey, he made three Pro Bowls.
Joe Bob, like, doesn't matter.
I agree.
I mean, this actually makes me laugh.
This is funny.
I mean, I can think of a few other words to describe it.
It's a farce.
I mean, are they trying to get people to tune into the Pro Bowl by getting a celebrity quarterback?
What?
Pro Bowl?
I think actually that's it.
You got to be kidding.
I'm sure Sidor's happy, hey, I'll take it.
I'm sure he's get a bonus in his contract for going to Pro Bowl.
Well, I think it's, for the record, ask yourself this.
I don't watch the Pro Bowl I never have.
I'm not going to watch it.
Never have. Take pride in it.
Don't watch the home run derby and baseball.
I don't get it. I think I'll watch the first one.
It's batting practice.
I know everybody loves those two and they get ratings.
Not interested at all.
But I will say if Shadur Sander played in it
and I'd say I was golfing that day or doing something that day,
I kind of would be interested.
How did he play? How did he look?
I'm sorry.
You're the one, Cowherd.
You're the one who wants to tune in on the golf course.
Hey, hey, fire up the phone.
Let me see what Shedur is doing.
the Pro Bowl.
I think I got to clean my toilet with a toothbrush that day, so unfortunately.
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That is funny.
Well, there's two things the NFL doesn't do well.
Pro Bowl's a mess and the preseason.
I would have, I always think it's funny.
You can have all these 19, 20-year-old college kids.
They don't get a preseason.
They have limited practice hours.
and Labor Day weekend, they're out there performing at the highest level.
Great games every Labor Day weekend.
Those kids, limitations on practice time.
They're 19, 20 years old.
Like, I need three preseason games.
Really?
I mean, guys get, I mean, aren't you like me during a preseason?
You're crossing your fingers.
People don't get hurt.
You don't care about the results.
You just don't want anybody in your offensive line,
anybody in your secondary receiver to rip up their ankle and be gone until Thanksgiving.
To me, get rid of the preseason.
have one game and kind of mandate it, that's the rookie game.
Have a rookie preseason game.
You play all the young kids and you see who can play.
Well, coaches need, so college coaches don't need all these practices in games.
Just have more inter-squad games.
Have inner-squad practices.
Have Washington and Baltimore practice six times during camp.
That's better than the game anyway.
You know, sitting yesterday,
Yesterday, Matt Stafford, probably a statistical argument that it is the greatest game a quarterback has ever had and lost a playoff game.
That's how good Matt Stafford was.
And, you know, it various times early in the game, I thought Seattle had a chance to bulldoze them.
And then after the fumbled punt by the Rams, I thought, oh, they're going to, there were a couple different times that I thought, I thought.
Seattle was going to pull away, the energy in the stadium, the energy with the team.
But they kept coming back, and they kept coming back because of one reason.
It wasn't their defense.
Darnal was moving up and down the field on the defense.
The reason they kept coming back, look at this pass.
I mean, give me a break.
That's Kobe Parkinson, the former Seahawk.
I mean, the reason they were in that game, and there were multiple times they could have folded,
was Matt Stafford.
God, he was good yesterday.
Here's Matt Hasselbeck on just an incredibly,
remarkably agile and gifted performance in a loss by Stafford?
He's aging in reverse, Colin.
I'd send him for five more years, okay?
The dude was so injured.
He couldn't even do handoffs in training camp.
He looked like he was constipated coming out to practice his first day back.
And now he looks better and younger than he's ever looked in his life.
Sign a five-year deal, man.
Like, keep going.
He was the MVP of the league.
He had an amazing year.
He's in lockstep with his GM head coach.
No, he'll be back.
I'd be shocked if he wasn't back.
And one of the reasons Tom Brady aged so well is not just that he takes care of himself,
is that Tom was a pocket quarterback.
And as he aged, Aaron Rogers ran around more.
As he aged, Aaron looked old.
He was still good, but Aaron looked old because Aaron's mobility was such an asset in his prime.
But Stafford's never been a run-around guy.
and Tom Brady was never a run-around guy.
They're known for their brain power, pre-snap,
both move very well in the pocket.
But I've said this before about Stafford,
and this really speaks to how great he is.
As a Los Angeles ram, in his 10 playoff games,
again, this is against the very best teams, often on the road.
Stafford has 21 touchdowns and four picks
as a RAM playoff quarterback,
a 104 passer rating,
and over 300 passing yards per game.
I mean, after that muffed punt,
when he brought them down the field,
boom, boom, boom,
three absolute darts.
And I'm like,
and then the other thing is,
the coaching in this game was so good,
and the efficiency of it was.
I mean, we got very lucky.
The Denver, New England game, Blizzard,
and I didn't check the weather the day of the game.
I'm thinking, oh, it's probably going to be wet and sloppy.
And then they went to the pregame show, and I'm like, oh, God, it's great.
It's absolutely great.
So, you know, McVeigh sort of snap when somebody said, is Matt Stafford coming back?
But I asked Matt Hasselback the same thing.
I mean, in camp, if this was a great quarterback draft,
I do think the Rams would draft a quarterback in the first round.
It's not.
And I don't think they're going to reach for Ty Simpson.
and give up picks because I do think they need two corners, thought they would take one last year.
I think they need minimum one offensive tackle, a right tackle.
I think they need another receiver as Devonte Adams ages.
I think they could actually get another safety and inside linebacker in house.
So they've got things they've got to shore up because if you're going to sign Stafford,
remember this, Stafford has some leverage now.
A, he's unbelievable, and B, it's a bad quarterback draft.
So the Rams are not going to get as good a deal on Stafford as they just got.
Now, the good news is nobody on that defense is getting paid much money.
And the other thing is they have a lot of picks.
So the Rams will be able to mitigate the Stafford contract.
If I'm Matt Stafford, I'm going to say, guys, I took one for the team.
I'm done taking one for the team.
because Stafford took, I wouldn't say it was a team-friendly deal,
but it was not a punitive contract.
So Stafford took a pretty ram favorable deal.
And if you're Matt Stafford, you're going to come back, say, guys, I took one for the team.
I want a two-year deal.
Well, what are the Rams going to do?
I mean, where are they going to go?
Stafford was 50 touchdowns, nine picks.
It was an insane year.
And if you watch that game in Seattle, give me a break.
guy was absolutely on fire.
So the Rams are going to have to pay him prior to your contract.
I would do it in a heartbeat.
But that's why I don't think they're going to reach for Ty Simpson because they need
their two first, their second, their third, their two-fifths, their six and two-seventh.
They've got to shore up the secondary.
They've got to get another receiver.
They've got to get a tackle.
And they got to get some, they hit on traffic.
They got to get some inexpensive guys in the middle and backup of that roster.
So, I mean, that's the downside.
I hear Sean McVeigh when asked about Stafford's future.
Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, if he still wants to play,
the whole kind of question is that?
You have to ask him.
We've been totally present.
I know that if he wants to, he's still playing at a pretty damn good clip.
I mean, he's the MVP of the league, and if he's not, you know,
I mean, I got respect for everybody else, but this guy played at a level.
This is different.
Yeah, it's, he's going to have a little leverage, though.
The Rams rolled the dice on this.
The Rams are like, listen, we'll bring you back.
We could draft the quarterback.
We're going to bring you back.
Garopolo's the backup, Stetson Bennett, so those guys don't sniff the field, except in preseason.
So, you know, but I do think now Stafford's got the leverage.
But, again, the Rams are in a good spot because they got a lot of draft picks.
And I've always said this.
Remember when the Rams had to pay golf and Stafford?
How did they do that?
Well, they were top heavy, but they were still very good, and you have to hit on draft picks.
I mean, they hit on Young, they hit on verse.
uh they hit i mean they their left tackle was undrafted so they're they're not expensive
anywhere on defense yet puna ford's kind of costly but i think they just redid a deal for uh landman
the the linebacker but they're in a really good spot but i i think if you're matt stafford you
took one for the team uh he'd go get paid and just just a reminder is he won't be the highest paid
quarterback in the league because I think Matt Stafford appreciates what McVey brings to the table.
But if this was a great quarterback draft class, they would have a little bit more leverage.
But it's not.
I think you have Mendoza and then you got Ty Simpson and there's about six teams that are going to reach on Ty Simpson.
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He's one of the few quarterbacks where he goes to a place and people just don't give up on him.
Then he goes and finds his guy in Drew in Sean Payton. He goes to New Orleans because I always
felt in the NFL if your first team, if you weren't a star with your first team, like,
A lot of people just give up on you.
And it's like, thank God they don't because Baker Mayfields rebuilt his career,
Sam Darnold, Gino Smith.
But it always felt like to me if he didn't have a great first six, seven great years with your first team,
a lot of people just like, ah, he's not the guy, let's go get the next quarterback.
And that's just not the way it works.
A lot of these guys go to bad, poorly run teams.
Sam Darnold goes to the Jets, but then he goes to Carolina.
And so he's been with five teams.
Four of them, he's had a winning record.
It's just the Jets thing didn't work.
And Drew Breeze is now 20 NFL seasons, Super Bowl, winner and MVP, going to be eligible
and is going to make it First Ballot Hall of Fame in 2026.
I watched Donald, and it's hard for me not to root for him because I know how bad it was in New York.
When you watch him and when you watched him broadcasting or playing,
are you surprised that he's transformed into a really high-end quarterback?
No, I'm not surprised.
You know, I haven't spent much time with Sam, but I can say this.
There's not a person I've met who knows Sam, who doesn't love him, not just as a person,
but appreciates his work ethic, appreciates everything in the way that he approaches his craft.
And so it's guys like Sam Darnold and the journey that he's had over the last couple of years.
It's part of what makes the NFL so great.
It's also part of what inspires you in a lot of ways.
to realize that, you know, there's so much that goes into playing that position and being successful
with that position. And for a lot of guys, hey, it may not be in year one or year two or year three.
That could be a combination of their own personal growth and development. It could be partly
their circumstances, right, and being in a tough environment. In most cases, guys that are drafted really
high, like Sam, Donald, being drafted number one, they're going to teams that have a lot greater
issues than just trying to solve the quarterback position. They've got a lot of holes to fill,
a lot of boys to fill. And typically it takes time. And do I think that in many cases, we've,
you know, unfortunately, you know, done the wrong thing when it came to a lot of these young
quarterbacks and maybe let them down, you know, I, yes, I do. Because there is so much that goes
into it. And honestly, I think guys, too, like Sam Donald wouldn't be the player or person he is right now,
if it wasn't for going through the adversity that he went through in New York and Carolina.
Same with Baker Mayfield.
I'm sure he would say the same things.
I've heard those guys talk about those things.
I know it was the way for me with the San Diego Chargers.
You know, I got people forget I got bench three times with Marty Schottnheimer in 2003.
That was not a good experience, right?
That was like a shot to the confidence.
And yet it's also what helped the fire burn, you know, even hotter as my career went on.
and always feeling like it has something to prove, Chip on the shoulder.
And you just feel that with San Donald,
but he's handled it with a lot of class.
And I just watched the way his teammates talk about him.
You know, I mean, they can't say enough great things about him.
And I love seeing the success that he's had.
I actually, when the game was over, felt bad for Matt Stafford.
I thought to myself, I've never seen a quarterback, play that well and lose.
And I'm sure, hey, listen, I know what happened to you at Purdue,
where, you know, you throw for 400 yards and you can't overcome, you know,
a really great team. But in your career, what is the difference? When you played great, Drew,
and you did, and you come up short in a big game, does it last with you the offseason? I mean,
is that a pretty time? Or do you feel like, hey, I gave it my best. I played well. We lost.
Because Stafford was brilliant for most of that game.
Yeah. Yes, it does last. I mean, I certainly, I think any great competitor is always going to
think about, you know, some of the ones that got away and maybe there's a player
or two that just kind of linger.
Stafford has played phenomenal all season long.
He's played phenomenal throughout the playoffs.
I mean, you forget, as good as the Rams were this year, they just happened to play in a
really, really tough division.
The only reason they weren't the one seat is because they lost the Seattle six weeks ago
with some crazy sequences of events, right?
The two-point conversion, overtime, going for it, you know, at the end.
or else they would have been the one seat, right?
So they have to go to Carolina where they need a two-minute drive to win.
They have to go to the Bears where they need overtime to win, right?
Like all these crazy sequences of events.
And then even in this game, they had a chance there at the end, right?
All they needed was one final possession.
They go down and they get stopped inside the 10 after they were just rolling.
So I think that's probably the moment that's going to sit and maybe eat at them a little bit.
But at the same time, there is no doubt the Rams.
Look, I hope Stafford keeps playing for another.
three, four years, you know, because I think that team is built to win. Yeah. So Seattle was the second
best road team in the league, which is impressive because they're young. The best road team was New
England. So the two best road teams are meeting in the Super Bowl. And I think it speaks to certain
things like coaching and intelligence. I think a lot of things travel, like smart teams it travels.
But there's a lot of things that don't necessarily travel, like a vertical passing game. If you go into
bad weather, you can't take it with you. But what do you think, when you look at Seattle and New
England's great success on the road, it's unbelievable. Like, how did, New England didn't lose a
road game this year. What does it tell you about their team? Well, let's start with New England.
Look, the job Mike Vrabel's done is remarkable. You know, I did have the chance to broadcast one
of their games. And I think what stuck out to me was, look, I remember Vrable as a player. Man,
hard nose tough love confrontation like he was just one of those players um man i i i see a side to him
i i don't want to say like a softer side because that's not the way to say it but it's a side
of him that has become such an unbelievable like teacher and and motivator of men but in a way
that is like so caring and thoughtful but also just so wrapped up in like identity and who we
are and what our standard is and like he uses the
term protect our identity every time we step on the field. And so to me, that's the epitome of
what they've done by going on the road. In a lot of cases, protecting your identity at home is a lot
easier than all of a sudden you go on a road in a hostile environment with different circumstances
and things that are out of your control. And at times you kind of lose track of that. And I think
just that mantra for him and his team, like I see that. Yes, he's got a great quarterback who's
super composed who actually reminds me a lot of Matt Stafford just in his purity of throwing the ball
and his composure and all those things. I wouldn't say, again, I don't want this to come across
a long way. I don't see New England as just a team full of superstars. I see them as a team who is
just everyone has embraced their role in helping for that group to be successful. And they're just
kind of have this gritty find-away mentality. Man, Seattle, on the other hand, maybe that's a team that just
flew under the radar for a bit.
And Coach McDonald has done a phenomenal job with those guys.
And just that, you know, Sam Donald coming in,
just kind of obviously nobody knew what to expect with JSN and just the phenomenal year that he had.
But, I mean, little things like going out and getting Rashid Sheed, I mean,
you can't tell me that that guy wasn't an impact player for them down the stretch.
They win the Rams game in the regular season because of him.
He sets the tone early in the playoffs with that kickoff return against the Niners.
made a big play early on in the game yesterday,
the deep ball from Sam.
So, like, I just, man,
I look at some of the star power they have on that team,
but how those guys were acquired and brought in,
and it was just masterful.
It was masterful.
And then defensively, I just think they,
they feel like they're just going to come in and beat you up.
Yeah, yeah.
And by the way, they do.
They just, they are physical and relentless.
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, name?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to a podcast.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what should be.
we should call it.
We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say,
Hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast, point game is about defining the odds.
Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
And finding ways to win no matter what.
He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.
And he knows, without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game.
We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.
I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
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He has to guard Julius Randall.
And then he has to give us everything he gives us
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And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson,
we dive into some playoff history too.
Steve Nash would get that thing.
That man, hell get the flying.
He running up the court, licking his fingers
while he got the ball, like,
after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah,
you figure it out.
real quick.
Ah, yeah.
Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball.
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Hey, I'm Jared Adano.
You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet.
Help!
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Please!
But there's so much more to me than me.
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And recently, I've become quite the helper myself.
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If I'm calling you,
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Cream a chicken suit.
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on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So you get two weeks
before a Super Bowl. Now, when you got to one, you'd been around the block. You know, you were a,
you know, Drake May is a puppy. He's a kid. Sam's gotten beat up a little bit by the league,
so I don't think it'll change much, but the Seahawks are very, very young as a team. So,
So, you tell me, you don't want paralysis by analysis.
You want to take a deep breath.
You want to play your same game, but it's the biggest game of your life.
It is an unbelievable pressure.
Do you look back at the two weeks before the Super Bowl fondly, or were you a bit of a
nervous wreck until the whistle until the kickoff?
Yeah, I mean, look, a nervous wreck from the perspective, I'm kind of that way throughout
the week of preparation no matter what game it is. Just because you just take so much pride in what
you're doing, you want to go out there and play well for your team. But I would say this was kind of
interesting maybe about our Super Bowl run. Look, you remember we played the Indianapolis Colts,
you know, on paper that was the best team in football. Maybe one of the best teams ever, right?
And so I think all the talk was in and around them. And I think we kind of felt like we were
flying under the radar a little bit. In fact, like I think when the Super Bowl was,
line opened up on our game it was colts by seven or seven and a half it was something crazy
and i just remember one of our early team meeting sean payton getting up there and being like
here's the way Vegas sees us here's the way the fans see us like everybody thinks we got no chance
but i'm telling you right now we are the better team so like from the very beginning we truly
felt like we were the better team now we were going to go out there and play aggressive and
pull out all the stops hence the on-side kick to open up the second half
all that stuff. But I think so much of it is creating this
us against the world mentality, and nobody knows until what we're
going to show them here on game day. And just feeling like you're
just kind of circling the wagons and nobody's giving us a shot
here, creating a little bit of that edge, you know, to your team going into it.
Yeah, no, I said this earlier. I said, New England. Brable is going to
pounce on that. They're already a five-point dog. I said, I guarantee you.
No question. He is going to play every
sound bite and show them every
clip so that it is an advantage.
I want to ask you,
it's funny, the NFL is so
cyclical.
It's an offensive league, but now we've got
two defensive coaches in, and Jesse Minter
got the Ravens game, and Josh Allen
doesn't have a coach. So this is the
first time since Belichick got to a Super Bowl
that we have defensive guys in, but I
think the league is cyclical. Like, we were
told three years ago running games didn't matter.
Well, I just watched Walker and Kyron Williams and Blake Horn.
I'm like, I'm sorry, but running backs were unbelievably there yesterday.
I want to ask you, Mike McCarthy to the Steelers offensive coach,
I think he'll make the sensibility will matter.
Josh Allen, I think I would like Brian Dayball.
But I think it is interesting that Mike McDonald and Vrable are defensive guys.
But you can feel their love for their young quarterbacks.
And I'm not anti-defensive coach.
but there is something to be said about getting offense,
understanding the sensibility.
Are you surprised?
Vrable and McDonald,
they just seem to get their quarterback.
And some defensive coaches, Drew,
I just don't feel like that.
They're old school, they won't go for it.
I don't know, it feels like I've got these two defensive coaches
that almost think like offensive guys.
Does that make sense?
Well, that's because they know what they're going up against
every time they step on the field
than how they're trying to be attacked.
This is what I'd say about those two guys.
In this day and age, more so than ever, with head coaches,
it's about being a great CEO.
It's about going out and getting coaches on both sides of the ball,
on offense and defense that you trust to implement a system,
and then you trust the general manager
and working collaboratively with him to go get the personnel that fits the systems.
but in react then your role as that head coach and as that CEO is you manage your staff
but you more so than ever are implementing what you feel like are the keys to victory
and the mindset that it takes to win but more importantly to adhere to a standard like that more
so than ever now is the role and job of the head coach you set the standard you hold that everyone
accountable to the standard and so while you may skew one direction of the other like
hey, I came from the offensive side of the ball or I came from the defensive side of the ball.
And yes, you may have contributions schematically to those sides of the ball.
In reality, you are just now, I am managing the game, I'm managing my team,
I'm making sure these guys are ready to play, right, that they have the right mindset.
Like, that is what it's all about.
And I can't think of two better guys that are coaching in this game with Mike McDonald and Mike
Vrable that, like, just embody that mentality.
Finally, minute left.
It didn't bother me on McVeigh going for it and forth for or Sean Payton going for it.
Didn't love Sean going for it.
How did it land for you?
Well, it's hindsight's right, 2020.
But, you know, the Denver game, I think at that point to take the points and go up two possessions, I think it's pretty significant, right?
Of course, you know, it's fourth and one.
You feel pretty good.
Now, look, had they tried to pound it, you know, and just get stuffed?
Then you're like, ah, you know, we weren't good.
enough to get it. You know, you try to pull out a little trickery with the Nate, with the bootleg.
But nonetheless, I think going up two possessions in a game like that with a young quarterback
where you just all of a sudden shift the pressure to the other side.
Oh, by the way, you know, as good as Drake Mays, man, he's still a young quarterback.
That's still a young, you know.
So I play at home, maybe take the points there.
I mean, look with McVeigh, you know, you're rolling.
And you got Matthew Saford, right?
And you got all these weapons, you know?
Right.
Yeah. I think I tend to feel like in those types of games, you take points.
You take the points.
Yeah. No, I get it. I think there's some analytics I buy, some I don't.
In these games with the best defenses, I like points.
Drew Brees, you were great today. As always, 20 seasons.
Going to be a Hall of Fame. He's eligible for the Hall of Fame this year. Can't wait.
Drew Brees, great stuff. Thanks. Thanks, Drew.
Great seeing, you.
All right.
good seeing you, eligible this year for the Hall of Fame and he's going to get in.
13 Pro Bowls, five all pros.
Yeah, I...
Listen, we can argue back and forth.
I mean, you look at Stafford and you're like, we got Seattle backed up.
It's hard enough to get down the field.
We've got to take these points.
I get it.
I also think Drew made a great point.
If you go for a run and it doesn't work, then you can just say, well, when you try to get kind of clever and roll out without Bow Nix,
that's much easier to criticize.
Oh, again, hindsight's 20-20.
Great stuff. Drew Brees' money today.
Matt Hasselbeck, fantastic.
We're out of time.
See you tomorrow.
Hey, guys, it's us.
The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
I'm Kevin.
And I'm Nick.
And guess what?
We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it.
But, you know, tired and sick.
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