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quarterbacks, right? Like, I'm sure they're not measured and nuanced with their takes. But what is the feeling? He's a big play quarterback. I mean, I trust my eyes. He's looked pretty good. he's not working with much offensively. What have you made of him? Yeah, so going into the draft, everybody felt Sador was going to be drafted significantly higher, and I think a lot of people in Cleveland felt Chador was going to be drafted to Cleveland significantly higher.

So then when he ended up being here and got drafted after Dylan Gabriel, there was frustration on the fan basis part because they were told how good this player was. And so then he sat, he sat, and now he's finally getting an opportunity to play and and he's definitely getting graded on a curve, Colin, because when you look at the Tennessee game, he made some really good plays and then he made some plays that you think, okay, this is going to be a problem. That one interception that he threw was just ridiculous. He shouldn't have done that. And then, you know, the sacks were an issue in college

and I think they're going to continue to be an issue in pro football, but the plays that it makes outside the pocket. Those are exciting. And as you said, in Cleveland, there's such a desperation for any optimism at quarterback that the game last week, even in a loss to Tennessee, was still really exciting to most people. It does matter when you play in a city like Cleveland that's starved for wins, or let's take Buffalo, where, you know, you have the Sabres, but it's at Bill's Town. And I said, if they lose to New England, the headline Monday is going to be Vrable-Wins-Divis. year one, the second year quarterback.

And, I mean, Greg Kosell was on this week and said, I don't love Buffalo's roster. It's hard to spot great players beyond Josh Allen when you watch tape. And I said, this game is way bigger. Monday morning, getting swept by Vrable, when you have the best quarterback in the league in Josh Allen. Now, you lived in New York where there's a million sports teams, but Cleveland, when you were there, Browns are big. your take on let's just say Buffalo loses this weekend. You've lived in that world where talk radio, things get ugly people.

Take me to what it could be like for McDermott. Yeah, it can be really hard. This year especially because it looks like we're not going to have Mahomes in the playoffs. It looks like we're potentially not going to have Lamar Jackson in the playoffs. We're not going to have Joe Burrow in the playoffs. So the only real Superman left in the AFC is Josh Allen. And this year would be the ideal year to be able to have that number one seed with all these other stars and franchises that you've had problems with, essentially eliminated. And now within your own division, you've got a second year quarterback and not a first-time head coach, but a first-year head coach and Mike in New England, and they're going to win the division.

I think Buffalo is going to win the game, Colin. And I think that the last time they played New England, they didn't take New England very seriously. Remember Buffalo was writing that 11 game home win streak. They'd won, I think, five in a row. New England was sort of milling around. And they had 11 penalties. It was a lot of things that just made it look like they looked past New England,

which isn't going to be the case this game. And I think Buffalo ends up winning it. So you were with the Patriots, and, you know, dynasties are rare, but it's just as hard to maintain them as it is to build them once you start paying the quarterback. And Kansas City looks like they won't make the playoffs, and frankly, they've got two or three really great players, you know, McDuffie, Creed Humphrey, Mahomes, but Chris Jones looks like he's aged. Travis Kelsey is aged. They're all line. They have major problems all over it. but especially a tackle.

What do you think the secret was to extend that dynasty? Because even when New England wasn't winning Super Bowls, they were good and winning the division, is some of this just Sean Payton and Jim Harbaugh showed up in your neighborhood? Or is it a roster regression? Like, what was the secret sauce to you beyond? Because they've got Reed and Mahomes. You had Brady and Belichick,

and you kept winning. I mean, you tell me what you see with Kansas City. Well, in fairness, the Kansas City, Collins, what, three straight Super Bowl runs, and they won two out of three, that's hard. Those extended off-seasons are really hard on the team, and then you come back and you do it again, so they win two straight. Then they've got a chance last year to win three straight, so that's three off-season that have been dramatically shortened. You don't get the high draft picks, and it can be extremely challenging, and it wears you down. I think that's what we're seeing right now is this, this is an off year. And it's been a really off year for Patrick Mahomes. His sub-20 quarterback rating, that was lower than any quarterback rating Tom ever got in his 23-year career. And so, and he struggled here now for well over a month. But as long as they have Patrick Mahomes, every single year, they're going to have a chance to win the Super Bowl.

Like, forget about the rest of the players. They're going to need other good players. long as you have that player, just like as long as we had Tom Brady, you always had a chance, they're going to have a chance. They just may need a little bit of a real offseason and a little bit more of a reset. And I think next year we're going to be talking about them again, being the mix for the ASC championship in the Super Bowl. A lot of discussion about how talented Caleb Williams is, but how low as completion percentage is. And I do think there's a fine line on letting a star be a star and understanding.

They're going to have a few more picks. They're more aggressive. Brett Farbs, just an aggressive player. And I think Josh Allen, he's an aggressive player. How troubled would you be with Caleb at 58%. Is there a line you want to get up to? Because we see him make incredibly difficult, Rose. We know he's got all sorts of horse power.

He may have the strongest arm in the league. We know he's wildly evasive. Where are he on his completion issues? Yeah, look, I don't love a 58% completion. You'd probably want to be somewhere. I think the league average is about 64%. So that's the low point. That's what we're gunning for.

What I really like that Caleb's done is how dramatically he's changed the number of sacks that he's taken. Think about last year the volume of sacks this guy took, and we could kill the offensive line, and we can kill the offensive coordinator, and I get all that. But a lot of those sacks were on him. And he's doing a much better job, and Ben Johnson's doing a really good job with him of not turning a bad play into a really bad play to where now you're second and 15 or whatever it is. So that's been great. Huge progress there. He protects the ball pretty well.

That's really, really good. Yeah, the completion percentage, I think, will continue to creep up as he understands defense. better as he continues to understand the offense better. But he's corrected two pretty significant problems that we saw last year with the sacks and, you know, just the propensity for turnovers. They're not perfect, but huge progress. So I'm really encouraged by him. All right.

Before we go to our video, the Eagles, I thought it was cringy, had this positivity bunny. and maybe if you were on a six-game winning streak, it's funny, but when you're losing it seems desperate, what'd you make of it? I don't know who put it up. So, you know, sometimes the offensive linemen or, you know, a group will put something in the locker room, and it can be really cringy or it can be funny, and they think it's funny, but the rest of the world thinks it's cringy.

You don't love the fact that they put it up, and then it becomes a national story, and then they lose the game, and it's now late, it's something where there should be nothing. And I do imagine it was probably just a, you know, a throwaway sort of lighthearted thing that somebody thought was going to be hit, that now becomes a much bigger story because they're on a three-game losing streak. I can't imagine this was Seriani saying, hey, fellas, you know a neat we need the locker room, a positivity bunny. That's the answer. So I don't know who was responsible for it, but I'm glad it's gone.

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And Kirk Cousins is Dealing. Why? Because he never relied on athleticism. Tom Brady, 44 years old, dealing. Matt Stafford 37. Aaron's been pretty good, not quite as good, because he did rely somewhat on his athleticism. Yet, a guy like Cam Newton ages really fast. people are suggesting Lamar Jackson is aging really fast.

So I look at Philip Rivers and I'm like, he didn't run in his prime. He was probably the least athletic quarterback in the league his last four years. His last year in Indy, he was great. And I'm like, listen, they got a good run game, a good old line. You don't want him sitting there for seven seconds. I could see a world where he stabilizes the offense. Am I nuts? I think you might be nuts.

You're absolutely right in the fact that he's, the quarterbacks that have not had to rely on their feet throughout the course of their career, age so much better than running quarterbacks. Because they've had to consistently find a second pitch when the first answer wasn't there. We're running quarterbacks. When it's not there, they take off. But, you know, father time gets you with that. The difference here to me with Philip Rivers versus when Joe Flacco first got brought in by the bronze after sitting out through November. remember is Joe Flacco had played the year before. Joe Flacco was 38. Phillips 44, just turned 44. He hasn't played in five years. And Joe Flacco, he played after 13 days on the team. We're talking about four days on the team. So he's coming off the couch after five years at 44 years old with very little time to practice against a salty defense that pressures a ton. I am

understand he knows the system and that's a huge benefit not just for him but for everybody around him but this is a this is a rough unit that he's going to be rolled out there against i i don't love it colin i hope it ends up like a disney movie i hope it ends up nice or like a hallmark movie for for the holidays you know the coach comes out and saves the theme but yeah you're probably right i'm trying to be optimistic you're probably right i'm trying to be optimistic you know. Okay. I've said, listen, when Jordan Love was in

college, people thought he was reckless, and then he sat for three years, and then his first five or six games, he was awful, and then he was good, then he got hurt. But he does check certain boxes, arm, athleticism, size, appears to be incredibly coachable, aggressive, he'll throw the ball downfield.

I know you've got some film on him this week. I like him, and I think all this stuff is not linear, right? Like, it's turbulent. You don't know. I mean, Matt LaFleur when he first started after sitting for three years was really impatient with him. He's like, we're not good. Now he's really good. What do you see? Yeah, the thing that I've always saw with Jordan Love is when he's good, Colin, he's really, really good. You know, he doesn't get A pluses. He gets A pluses. But when he's been bad,

he's been more of a C type student. That's, that's gotten a little bit better. His bad games haven't been as bad and his good games are still as good as they've been. But that inconsistency overall, I don't love. But he's on a bit of a heater right now. And when I went back and looked at the Bears game, I thought it was not only him, but I thought they did a really good job as an offensive staff of attacking the Bears. So let's take a look at the table. I'm going to show you the first touchdown that he threw in the game. And this formation ends up being the same formation they use for the second touchdown as well. So they've got the back and the tight end. They're both to the right side here. They're going to stay in a block. So that with the five offensive

alignment, they're going to block seven. So they're going to max protected for Jordan Love anticipating that the bears are going to bring some kind of heat. Now they've got all three wide receivers on the left side. So if the corners come over, they know whether it's manner zone. And they're going to run a curl outside. They're going to run a curl where he sits over the ball inside. Again, if they have pressure, that gives him easy answers. But if they're they've got it blocked up, they're going to take Watson and they're going to run him down the middle of the field. So they've got the max protection, they've got answers with routes, and then they also have the option to throw it deep. Now the bears, they've got their four

down linemen, they're coming, then they're going to take a cornerback, a linebacker, and the cornerback who's over the third wide receiver, and they're going to bring all three of those guys. So they're rushing seven. So Green Bay was right. The bears are bringing pressure. What that means is those defensive backs are locked on the three. three wide receivers man to man and the tight end man and they've got no help. So now as the pressure starts to come, what you're going to see is the tight end stays into block. He's going to block the blitzing defensive back, which means their seven blockers are going

to block the Bears, seven blitzers. And now Johnson, he's the free guy. He's got to go. Look at the path. He's got a free path to Jordan Love. He doesn't go. He's the eighth guy. He's the free guy, which means now all these defensive guys.

backs are getting sold out. Look at the pocket that Jordan Love has. He's it, this is the max blitzing, and it looks like he's got all day. So now Watson is going to be able to walk up on the defensive back, break his leverage, and take a look at the amount of field that he has to run away from the safety. This shouldn't happen with a max pressure, but because Johnson doesn't go after they block it up, then Jordan Love is able to throw it. He's able to throw it away from the, from the coverage. It's a really good throw by love. It's a really well-executed play overall. And they end up doing it a little bit later in the second quarter

and hit another touchdown out of that same exact formation, just a little bit different pattern. So collectively, Love and the offensive scheme have been very good of late. One of the reasons I like a Darnold or a Jordan Love, I loved Andrew Locke, is that if you Blitz, they will punish you. I would blitz all day if you never punish me. If I blitz and you beat me for an eight-yard completion, Chicago, they brought the pressure, and he burned them twice in that game.

And so that's why I've always said, I'll deal with some interceptions. I'll deal with intercept. Andrew Luck threw a lot. Darnold, Peyton Manning, threw them. But I need to burn you if you do blitz me, and I think that's what Green Bay does. And I think the really good teams do. Mahomes did that for years, too. Yeah, and it's not just the quarterback being able to recognize that stuff and take advantage of it, but then also the offensive staff or the offensive coordinator also understanding how to really attack that

and how to educate the quarterback on where to exploit those weaknesses when you blitz. And that's always a huge risk you take as a defense coordinator is somebody's band's going to play. It's either our band or their band when we bring this pressure, and the good quarterbacks, you know, their band plays way more often than the defenses does. Eric, Mangini, good scene, coach. Great seeing you. Talk to you soon, Colin. All right. J-Mack with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, let's get started with the AFC East. It's hanging in the balance. Patriots bills, the big showdown we've been talking about all week. Buffalo lost the first meeting, but could extend the possibility of the Patriots

stumbling to open the divisional race. Josh Allen, he knows what's at stake. We're doing everything that we can to prepare as hard as we can to go out there and execute as well as we can on Sunday. You know, we think we understand as a team what's at stake. But I don't think that's going to influence anything. It's the next game. It's the biggest game that we have because it's the next one. So a lot of people calling her and say, oh, it must win.

Listen, obviously it would be nice to win for the bills. I like them here. If they don't and they get a wild card spot, these are the, three division winners that you're looking at facing in the first round. Broncos or Patriots, whoever doesn't get the one, Jacksonville and Pittsburgh. Buffalo's still going to be favored. Jacksonville's not a great matchup because Jacksonville runs the ball. Jacksonville's run game has been pretty good.

Yeah, they got E.T. And I just, if I'm the bills, obviously I think they win this weekend, but I don't think it's the end of the world if you're a wild card team. I think a lot of it is in the building. Vrable comes into the division, sweeps you with young Drake Day, who's not in his prime. that doesn't play well. The Bill's owners upstairs thinking first year, New England's arguably

still in a semi-rebuild. Okay, let's talk through this. Bills lose this game, losing the first round, whatever. Do you move off McDermott and the GM? I move off McDermott. I have long discussions with the GM. Okay.

I don't know if I move off. Here's the problem, Colin. Where are you going to find a great candidate out there? I'd go find an offensive coach. There's a coordinator at a football team near you. I just think the market is a little bleak. Like, even think of the good offenses, Seattle's offense is popping. Where else are, like...

By the way, by the way, I have Josh Allen. Kevin O'Connell will pay the rest of your contract in Minnesota. Let me tell you something. If Josh Allen's your quarterback, every good offense at the guy in the league will take a call. He's going to take a call. Okay. Brian Gable, by the way, has already. coach there. Yeah, he's apparently the guy who saved Alan, but well, we'll see.

Oh, Schofansky, how about that as a fit if the Browns run him off, which would be dumb. There would be no shortage of top offensive guys for Josh Allen. Zafansky would be the guy, yeah, yeah. All right, next up, we got to go back to the Chiefs. I like what Mangini had to say about Patrick Mahomes, mind-blowing stats. Colin, how about this one? They have an NFL worst six losses when they're favored this season. Yeah. That is not good. The market's overvaluing them.

Right, because everybody just thinks, it's Reed and Mahomes. They're going to be fine. So they're five and a half point favorites when they play the Chargers. We have a list of their losses as a favorite. Okay? And they're all close games.

Well, except Houston. The Chargers in the open are in, I think, Brazil. Remember, they lost that? Justin Herbert was nailed on the final drive. The Jacksonville loss, which we Monday and after. Bullied a little bit that one, yeah. Yeah. The Buffalo loss expected.

There was the tough one to Denver. I think a lot of people thought the Chiefs were the size. there. The one at Dallas, which still remains perplexing, that Thanksgiving loss. And then Houston last week, which wasn't a one-score game, but that just tells me when they play good teams, they don't have as many good players. And Patrick Mahomes is not doing stuff that he used to do during his prime. My eyes, your eyes don't lie. Houston had better players last week. Yeah. Longer, more athletic, getting to the quarterback more consistently. Can you remind me, how many times Tom Brady missed the playoffs when he was into it?

None when hell. I think I might have asked you that. day this week. I'm trying to send a message, Chiefs fans. All right, final story. Let's go to the Miami Dolphins. One of the quieter turnaround stories in the league. Absolutely. You know, they've won five or six. I mean, people had buried, buried, myself included. McDaniel, there was that game in London where he went for it on fourth down, like, kick the fuel, go win the damn game. They ended up winning in overtime. But Monday night, Colin, in Pittsburgh, we got an early weather report, high of 22 degrees, and there could be snow. Tua was asked about the weather report. What do you think Tua said? It's football, bro. I guess they told you about it. Yeah.

Tua obviously saying all the right things. Right. The reality is they've really struggled in inclement weather. Now, they did win against the Jets. Pittsburgh is the side here. Well, T.J. Watt, I'm sure you read the story. He's got like a lung thing within the hospital. hospital. Ain't a way he's playing son of us. Sorry. Like, that's Jay J.J. Watts out there chiming in on it now.

Like, we're thankful my brother's okay. I do like the dolphins. Two in cold weather, two and seven. Pass a rating of 79. Yeah. It was the Jets last week. Let's simmer down. Jay Mackle News.

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teams are on the bubble fighting for relevance division leaders trying to protect their spots jimack believes he knows how it will all shake out first up i've already made my pick on this one raven's trying to rebound bengals trying to spoil tomorrow's headlines today ravens at the bingles yeah this is just tough a couple themes this weekend rematches are big i'm betting on a lot of coaches who are dominant in December. This one, this is a tough one. Ravens, Bengals, a rematch from Thanksgiving, the headline will be Lamar and order.

Defense arrests, offense restores AFC. Now, again, everybody out there saying basically the same thing. Baltimore's broken. Lamar's slow. Warren Buffett, the great investor. Hey, everybody's fleeing. That's the time to jump in. I'm trying to buy Baltimore low here.

I do believe we see a better effort than what we saw in. Thanksgiving. Colin, I went back and read that game. Five turnovers by the Ravens against the Bengals, who I believe at the time were the worst defense in the league. I went and looked in, and they were up 7-6. Isaiah likely about to score fumbles out of the end zone. So instead of 14-6, Bengals get the ball back. Then Lamar fumbles at his own 15.

He had a rough game on Thanksgiving. I don't know. Maybe 8 too early. I don't know what was going on. Then he had the red zone pick. I don't think they'll play that poorly. Bengals will see. I don't know what to expect with his Joe Burrow, these comments.

Do you think that impacts the locker room at all? Because Jamar Chase was like, wait, what? He said what? And I just wonder if there's any trickle down from Burroughs comment. I think his frustration is sending a message to the owner. Up top. Yeah. All right.

Well, I'm going Ravens. Two and a half, I'll take them. I think Baltimore wins by a field goal. Tomorrow's headline today, Lions at the L.A. Rams right here on Fox. Great game at SoFi. This is one where the coach, to me, is everything. I think this will be a phenomenal game. The headline for Rams Lions will be X-Lax.

Lions soil selves facing former quarterback. Listen, I know it's a great rah-rah spot for Jared Goff and Dan Campbell. Hey, nobody respects us. We're huge underdogs. We're a great team. We were almost in the Super Bowl last year. Just pump the brakes. I'm worried about Detroit in this one.

Colin, for starters, McVeigh, 27 and 11 in December in his career. You know what that means. Hey, we got the full season of data. I can make adjustments to my team. My defense adjusts these smart young coaches, man. Him and another one will get too shortly. December, their lights out. Now I look at Detroit's injury situation.

I'm sure you saw that Terriott Arnold, he's done for the season. But Kirby Joseph, they announced today, doesn't look like he's coming back. So I look at who's going to back Phil Joseph? And it's a young kid. That was probably like 70 snaps, but now he's going against Puka and Devante Adams and the McVease schemes.

The Rams in their last seven have scored over. Over 30 points five times. This offense is clicking. I don't see how the lions get stops. They think it gets ugly. Give me the Rams. Tomorrow's headlines today. A quietly interesting team that's certainly getting better on both sides.

The stats tell you that. Panthers at the Saints on Fox. Especially what went down last night. This is a massive game. I know it's not great teams. But this is fascinating. It's a real moment for the Panthers. Another rematch.

The headline for Panthers Saints will be. Enter the Bryce Age. Panthers too unwooly for Saints. Yeah, they're working overtime this week, Colin. Yes, a rematch. Now, the Panthers, I think you mentioned this in your pick. In their last meeting against the Saints, they were coming off that win.

A huge win over the Packers. They come home, they're lackadaisical. Tyler Shuck beats him. Now they have extra rest. And the script is flipped. What did the Saints do last week? They beat Tampa. Biggest win in a couple years.

They're writing in New Orleans. Maybe Tyler Shuck is their franchise quarterback. That's like a real thing that's happening. I don't think he's thrown for 200 yards in the last three games. Now, they're playing better, but I think the Panthers are the better team. Big thing in the injury report. J.C. Horn, top cornerback, he's back. Two other defensive starters back from injury.

And the Panthers defense is massively improved from last year. And Dave Canales doing wonders with Bryce Young. I like the Panthers here. I know it's a little bit of a chalky, like, Panthers haven't been favored and won a game since 2021. Risky. Give me Carolina. Tomorrow's headlines today. This should be a really good game.

Green Bay Packers, playing well, healthy now at receiver against the Broncos. I mentioned coaches. You want to know how LaFleur's done in December, 21 and 4. He's unbelievable. Wow. The headline for Packers, Broncos will be mile high. More like Mile Si. Parsons, pops, Bose balloon.

I mean, listen, you know, and I joke about Chat GBT, but you can jump in there and get decent breakdowns on what these coaches want to do schematically. And everything Vance Joseph and the Broncos do, LaFleur does better. I mean, Joseph wants to match up man-to-man on the outside. That's not good against Watson and Jaden Reed. Watson is on a heater. And by the way, Jordan Love is a really good deep ball thrower. Yeah, and listen, Patrick Chirtan is excellent defensive player of the year last year.

He's had his moments where he's gotten cooked. Go look at that Colts game. And I looked, Colts ran up and down the field against him. Go look what Jackson Dart did to the Broncos defense. And I know they've had some injuries. Bow Nix has also struggled, Colin, mightily, against Zone. Because guess what? His legs are not as effective because the defenders are facing you.

Green Bay can get home with four. I don't think Knicks has avenues to run. The backup running back with Dobbins out, he's all right. I'm sorry. I'm on the Packers here. Favorite on the road. Finally, tomorrow's headlines today, the fourth game that you and I at least agree in picking,

Colts and Phillip Rivers. Well, I'm waiting for Rivers to officially be the starter. Listen, I don't like to give out double-digit favorites. I pass on the- Both pass. Yeah, I passed on the Texans. I mean, that's an unbelievable. believable bet this weekend.

But for Seahawks Colts, the headline will be in a van down by the rivers. Old man doesn't inspire Colts, a little Matt Foley action Saturday Night Live. Sam Darnold as a favorite, Colin, of six or more, 11 and 0 straight up. Say it again. Sam Darnold is a favorite of six or more,

11 and 0 straight up. That is a closure. He's like Tiger Woods with a helmet. I'm just telling you guys. Like, this could get ugly fast. I looked at the Colts secondary. So Kenny Moore's pretty good. Sauce Gardner out.

Charverius Ward, third concussion, season over. Oh. I look, they got a seventh round pick backing up now. Like, who's going to match up with J.S.N? They're going to tart. I mean, this, again, you never know what's going to happen. DeForest Buckner. He could come back, but it doesn't look like it.

Colter just beat up. That team and, did you see the Daniel Jones post about, hey, man, it's been a great season. I'm done. He's, like, sad. The vibes are just not. good around the cults right now. I know Philip Rivers can try. You know, he's got the double chin. He's like he had a couple donuts this off-season. I don't see him moving well against Seattle. I picked their number here. I think Seattle wins easily.

You know, it is the Sam Darnold. It's not that Sam... It's nine and two against the spread, by the way. Not so it's not just like, oh, they're barely winning. But Sam last year and this year, he leaves the NFL wins with two totally different teams, a defensive coach and offensive coach. I know people always talk about, oh, boy, he'll get reckless. Andrew Luck had a lot of three interception games. Darnold is even more so than Baker, because I think Darnold's high end is better than Baker. He's a bigger, more athletic guy. I think he's got a big arm. The Darnold's story is encouraging, and I've told you, with NIL and some of these

college quarterbacks like Dante Moore may stay in college. They're like eight teams that need a quarterback, these mid-level guys, Baker, Sam, Gino. Mac Jones, perhaps? I think Kyler Murray is going to get paid by somebody. I think Mack Jones, somebody's going to trade for him. Jay McHick, if you need a quarterback in this league, you're a GM on the hot seat, and a coach on the hot seat.

And everybody in this league not named Andy Reed or Sean McVeigh, you're one awful season from the owner, you know, sitting down with you. I'll say it again, watch Mac. Somebody's going to take a swing and trade for Mac Jones. the Rivers speaks to the desperation. I just will, I know some people are like, you guys are crazy, 14's too much. Just remember when Joe Flacco came off the couch, his first game, disaster, okay? Josh Dobbs can come out of NASA or wherever he was, and he could, because he's running around and making place. These guys are statues in the pocket. The speed of this game, it's going to be

too much for Rivers, man. And I like Rivers. He'll probably do fine in a couple weeks, but this is a terrible spot. I don't think he should stay outside of Houston, could you face a worse team than the aggressive young athletic Seahawks. By the way, Arizona's facing Houston. Their left tackle just ruled out. Oh, boy. That was, I almost, that was a game I thought. I don't like taking big favor.

That's why I took the under on this game. I think Seattle wants to get out clean, fast, no injuries, Rams around the corner. All right, great job this week. First Things First is coming up next live from New York. Be safe. Happy holidays. It's the hurt.

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