The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Greg Olsen joins The Herd

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

Colin talks to Fox Sports NFL analyst Greg Olsen joins the show to breakdown the Bears v Packers match up and why Chicago’s defense could be a liabilitySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy in...formation.

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Starting point is 00:02:44 We'll get to your hurricanes in just a little bit. We'll circle back because they are in college football is better when Miami's got swag. And man, do they? So you had the Dolphins Patriots last weekend. And I had said before the season, I had picked them as my double your win total. I said they're going to make it as a wild card. I thought they'd win nine, ten games. A lot of it on beating the dolphins and beating the Jets.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I didn't think they'd be this good. Yes, Vrable and Josh McDaniel are part of it. So is Drake May. You did their game last week. Do they have the kind of roster that could win a conference? Because to this point, I don't think people think that. I think people think Vrable and Drake May. And even I think they're another draft away on the offensive front.
Starting point is 00:03:30 When you watch them, do you look and say championship roster? If you would have asked me three weeks ago, I think my answer would be a little bit different. I think I would have been more hesitant. I spent last week really trying to give them like an honest evaluation. I know everyone makes a big deal about their strength of schedule and their division, but after spending a week studying them, watching what makes them good, seeing that run game last week and week 18 against the dolphins really come to life. And they were incredible Trevionn Henderson and Ramandre Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And they ran all over the place with that passing game. I think the defense is good where they need to be good. You know, we talked about it on the broadcast last week. What's unique about the defense, maybe not a lot of stars. They got Gonzalez. He's there. Obviously, they're one pro bowler on that side. But, you know, they don't take the ball away at a real high level.
Starting point is 00:04:20 They let teams, you know, score in the red zone. But when you look at it, they don't give up points. They don't give up explosives. You don't get to the red zone often when you do, you score. So they're good where it matters. All of a sudden, they get into a hot streak of taking the ball away with that offense. And then the run game that has more value come postseason than maybe it does in the regular season. And then on top of all that, I think the AFC is completely wide open.
Starting point is 00:04:45 So I think the Patriots have that I can make a strong in argument that the Patriots make the Super Bowl is probably any in the entire conference. And that's both a credit to them and the season that they've had. and also just kind of the lay of the land there in the AFC. I said there's 14 teams that make it in. Everybody can lose except Buffalo. And Mahomes is out, Burroughs out, Lamar's out. It's a bunch of Bo Nicks, Drake Bay. It's like Jacksonville, it's like, okay, guys, you got to win this opening round.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And boy, did they get a tough matchup. Jacksonville's on fire. But I said, here's what would worry me. They're a slow starting team. that is bad against the powerful offense at home. They play from behind constantly. I can't figure it out. They don't like scripted stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:38 How do you explain Buffalo being behind in like six of eight weeks? You were in this league for so long. Most top quarterbacks with winning coaches start strong. It's like a rule. You have a plan. You have a point of view. You're efficient. You've got good personnel.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I don't think you can win. I don't think they'll beat Jacksonville. What do you say to their offensive struggles before half? Well, I think it's a fascinating kind of deep dive. And I haven't had Buffalo in a couple weeks. I had them about called three, four weeks ago in that home game, incredible game in the snow against CINC and Burrow. But I think what's unique about Buffalo is it feels like they've made their offense built for the postseason.
Starting point is 00:06:24 So you think years ago, Josh Allen is. is in the shotgun and every play, the ball's in his hand. And he's running around crazy, design runs, scramble runs, and then obviously just operating as a traditional dropback gun passer. Well, they've made a very conscious decision. They said, okay, in the postseason, we're a run game and being able to control the line of scrimmage has a lot more value than it does maybe in the regular season where it's a very passing, offensive-driven league
Starting point is 00:06:50 until you get into the playoffs. So James Cook is incredible as good a back in the league. They're a very good run game, probably the second most efficient run game in the league, maybe just behind the Rams. That's built for the playoffs. So they've almost taken a little bit away from their MVP caliber quarterback because the ball's not in his hand so much. And it is a little bit of a more ground and pound. I don't think they love their perimeter receivers in a traditional passing game.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So it's play action. It's boots and naked. It's rollout passes. A little bit more like what we see from teams that don't have a Josh Allen. but I don't think it's by accident. I think they've made that decision of saying, listen, he can still be Superman when we need it. We saw it in the snow firsthand up in Buffalo when they came back to beat Sincere.
Starting point is 00:07:36 He made some just ridiculous plays that he's probably the only guy in the league that can make to win you those games. So it's a little bit by design. They're going to need their defense to play really well. They're going to need their defense to go on the road and keep this thing. Because when you become a run-heavy team and you want to take such a high percentage of your snaps and give it to the ground game, that's fine. But your ability to operate in that mentality
Starting point is 00:08:00 is only, only lasts as long as your defense's ability to keep the score down. So playing from behind is fine. Playing too far from behind gets them out of that mode. And now it turns into hero ball and drop back pass, which I'm not, I don't think that's really what they want to be over long periods of time. Okay. So I think most of us believe it's my turn down the sound test. When you turn down the volume and just watch Seattle, you're like, man.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I remember the Carolina team with Cam that got to the Super Bowl. And there was an energy and a speed. It was like, oh, these guys, they're playing with confidence that's over as good as they are. And that it happens. You've been there. And I think is Seattle great? Well, I don't love their own line. Darnold in the playoffs, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:48 But I, would it worry you at all that Seattle is, really young. Darnold doesn't have a lot of playoff experience, or do you just look at them and go, man, they've got dudes everywhere. They've hit on every draft pick. I mean, they honestly, Greg, I don't think they've missed on a top draft pick in four or five years. How do you view Seattle? What worries you or what doesn't? Yeah, I think, I think Josh Snyder's in the upper echelon, top two or three, him, the Howie Rosemins. I mean, you're talking about elite, elite, front office, talent evaluators, draft picks. And obviously, that's the foundation of why they've had so much success.
Starting point is 00:09:30 So they deserve a ton of credit there. As far as, and again, I don't want to sound dramatic here, but if you could, if you could pick, okay, what style would you like an offense and a defense complementary on one NFL team? And you can pick, okay, what plays in today's modern NFL? it would look very eerily similar to both the offense and the defense of Seattle. What I mean by that is offensively, the fad this year, you look at the Rams, you look at Seattle, the top teams, and you say, okay, who are they?
Starting point is 00:10:03 They are big bodies. They're two tight ends, multiple backs. Not all this 11 spread. Everyone outside the numbers drop back past crazy. They are a big body, heavy personnel passing team. And they're going to run with high volume, but they're always hunting explosive plays. They're trying to throw it over your head. That's what they are offensively.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I would argue that's the best style to play in today's NFL. And then conversely, on the other side, the reason offenses are doing this is they want you to put a bunch of big bodies on the field. They want you to play with linebackers and defensive linemen and not as many debacks. So what does Seattle do? Mike McDonald has built through personnel and just the talent, which he has. they play virtually nickel and dime the entire time. They do not ever have only four defensive backs on the field.
Starting point is 00:10:53 First down, second down, third down doesn't matter because they understand the value of defending the pass and we're going to hold up against the run with the least amount of people as possible. That is the formula of being really good. They happen to have mastered it and have the people and the ideology to execute it on both sides. And that's why I think if you put a gun to my head and said right now,
Starting point is 00:11:15 pick one team, put your life. on it. I'm probably between LA and Seattle. I think Seattle is as well-rounded and as good top to bottom as any team in the playoffs. Yeah. So you played in Chicago. You loved Chicago. Part of me thinks, listen, everything goes in stages. And the stage this year was save Caleb, stop, you know, eliminate sacks. He doesn't throw a lot of picks. But I thought like Ben Johnson, job. We said before the season, I don't really care about the record. He can't get sacks 60 times. Cut those in half. Well, they cut him in a third. And he really hasn't thrown the... So I almost feel like they kind of overachief. Like, they're ahead. Like, I feel this way with New England and in
Starting point is 00:12:02 Chicago, like you're kind of ahead of where I thought you were. I don't know if they feel that way. But if Chicago lost at home to Green Bay, would you say, hey, big jump. Can't wait for next year. or do you view them now at home quarterback is healthy better old line tremendous weapons do you view this as a no this is disappointing if the bears lose at home
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'll be honest I think in this playoffs aFC NFC you know with the Rams probably it'd be disappointing if the Rams again it's the game that we're going to call the Rams you know are they better than Carolina now Carolina just beat them a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:12:46 So you probably could say across the board, I'm not sure if there's any game that's just a glaring mismatch. I think you can make an argument that Green Bay could win. You can make an argument how Chicago wins, home road, same with Philly and San Fran. So I think we could probably go through that exercise and make legitimate arguments either way. But as far as Chicago, I said during a preseason game
Starting point is 00:13:07 all the way back in August when we called their game, I thought it was the best job in the league that was available. I thought, A, they get the best coach, but I thought there was more wins built into that roster, that a competent coach and a guy like Ben Johnson between scheme, ideology, you know, culture, all the things that he was going to bring. I thought the roster had a lot of wins built in. I feel that way a little bit right now about the New York Giants going forward. Like, there's the talent at the right spots.
Starting point is 00:13:36 There's the depth. They've lost, previously they had lost games. They should have won and a little bit of dysfunction. Now, you look at this year, you could argue. that they've maybe overachieved, right? There was wins in there. There was an inevitable improvement, quarterback play, offensive line, both addition of personnel and scheme and coaching and all of that. They're talented at the skilled positions. The defense still concerns me. Right now, the defense is completely hanging their hat on taking the ball away.
Starting point is 00:14:05 One of the best in the league. That's great until that well dries up and you actually just have to play on a snap by snap basis. So that concerns me a little bit. But yeah, I think improvement was inevitable. Did we think it was going to be this many wins, home playoff game? Probably not. Now, next year, could there be a little bit of a regression? Absolutely. Are they going to lead the league or be amongst the best in the league and taking the ball away?
Starting point is 00:14:29 History tells us that that's not repeatable. That's not something that's easily sustainable. So there could be a regression. But for right now, I think Chicago, like every wildcard team this weekend, has the same argument to win a game as anybody. else and I think that's what makes this year's playoffs so intriguing. Yeah. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports
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Starting point is 00:19:38 I always looked at Miami as a pro town with a very small, intense hurricane following. But it was a pro town. You know, Riley in the Heat, De Wade, you know, the dolphins, Shula for years. I was surprised if you'd have told me where, who's going to spend a lot of money? I would have guessed Oregon with Phil Knight, Notre Dame, Michigan, huge endowments. I would not have guessed Miami would step up and just, you know, really go out and get aggressive. So we know Miami's good.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Mario Cristobal has been one of the top two or three recruiters for a decade in the sport. I'm surprised as an outsider. You went there at how committed they have been to it and like functional. Like this NIL stuff is, I mean, it's a barnyard musical, like big collectives. And I am surprised that Miami just jumped up and said, we're going to be a ball player here. We're going to commit. Are you surprised by that? Because you were around the program for years.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Yeah. I'm not surprised because the culture down there in Miami, from the president and the athletic director all the way down through the entire culture there, the athletic department, and just the faculty in general, like winning matters, being a good football program at Miami is woven into the identity of the school
Starting point is 00:20:59 to the student body. And, you know, it kind of flies under the radar a little bit because we are a small little private school. If you drove down US1, you know, A1A down in Coral Gables, you might drive right by the entrance to the school. not even know it's there. So it's not one of these huge state schools that takes over Tuscaloosa or
Starting point is 00:21:17 Athens or, you know, Gainesville. So it is a little bit of a different culture, a little bit of a different vibe down there in South Florida. But I'll tell you, I've known Mario Cristobal since I was 15 years old. He recruited me as a freshman in high school. I met him at Miami, and then he recruited me at Rutgers and then ended up coaching me. He was my Ted End coach in college. So we're very close. I had dinner with him shortly after he got the job years back. And he was very clear to the school for him to leave Oregon where he pretty much had a blank check to execute the vision that he wanted to in essence do what Dan landing has continued to do and kept them to this level they the Oregon had given Mario that level of commitment so for him to come to Miami yes it was his alma mater
Starting point is 00:21:59 yes it's where he wanted to be he was not going to come to Miami without the full support top to bottom comprehensively across the board and part of that is the NIL and the money and he got a lot of that guaranteed to him and on the table, not just as talk. And it was a big reason not only why he took the job, but certainly one of the big reasons why they've been as successful. But make no mistake about it, before you could pay guys, and it really just became to the highest bidder. You asked Nick Sabin, you ask from his time at FIU,
Starting point is 00:22:29 like there might not be a better recruiter in the country than Mario Cristobal. He just happens to now be the head coach. But the same guy that was recruiting us as a GA back in the early 2000, thousands. It's the same guy now recruit and he'll call me. He's reaching out to everyone and anyone. He is relentless. He is a tireless worker and I couldn't be happier for him. For the record, when you play in the NFL forever, but I bet when you, if that game was tied 2828, you would be so nervous. When you go watch Miami, are you a wreck? Are you an emotional wreck? I'm an emotional wreck watching any game that I'm not a part of, that I have vested interest in the outcome.
Starting point is 00:23:12 It could be a Miami game. It could be my daughter's seventh grade basketball game. My son's flag. It's just the way I'm wired. Like if I care about the outcome and the people that are involved, I'm, when I'm playing, I'm great. Like not a highly emotional player, was never the guy running around and acting. Like, that was never me as a player as a coach, as a. dad as a parent. I carry my emotions a lot more on my sleeve. So yeah, I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:23:40 thrilled at the game in Arizona. I'm going to be there with a couple buddies, catch up with some teammates. And yeah, we're going to be living and dying with every with every snap because my hope is that they make the national title in Miami and get to go watch them again. It's going to be great. I just, I love that we have Indiana, Oregon, Ole Miss, and Miami. Yeah, it's the four teams you said before the year, right? That's the call. That's right. I picked them all. Great senior. everybody. Greg Olson. Appreciate it. Thanks, Colin.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Yeah, I've said for years, the three teams are good when they win in college football. Texas, Miami, and USC feel like not quite college. They're college, 80%, but 20, 25% pro football because of the city. And Miami just feels big, welcome back hurricanes. It's great. Can't wait. J. Mack with the news.
Starting point is 00:24:31 No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line. news. All right, speaking of welcome back, welcome back. D.K. Metcalf, he's going to be back for the Steelers on Monday night against the Texans.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Huge get back. After this incident with a fan, you know, I was going to call him something. But in Detroit, Metcalf is back. He would not speak about the incident, but did say he's excited to return. His team missed him, obviously, in the red zone. They cannot get anything right. With D.K., they average 24 points per game, 5.3 yards. Well, now with D.K., Friermouth.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Warren Warren's a good player by the way And 14 Kenneth Gainwell Gainwell Okay now Aaron's got a little bit to work with So when you take DK out It's like okay now I can kind of
Starting point is 00:25:23 You know I can take Nothing vertically There's nothing vertically But now you look See I'm telling you Three and a half Pittsburgh at home DK Friamuth Warren Gainwell
Starting point is 00:25:32 Aaron having his best half They're past blocking according to PFF is actually top five in the league. They're run blocking. I think it's their pass blocking. I believe that when I see it against this. I think my second favorite bet of the weekend is Pittsburgh to cover. So, you know, I like playing poker and stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:49 My son is starting to get into poker. I'll see your D.K. Metcalfe and raise you Derek Stingley, who's one of the best cornerbacks in the league. He's going to be all pro this year. Just put Stingley on him. Hey, good luck. Throw your jump balls. I got Stingley.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And on the other side, if you want to run away from Stingley, we got Lasseter. I mean, this is a really good defense, Colin. It's great. I think you're the one carrying around these Mike Tomlin stats in your back pocket about postseason failures. He'd last won a playoff game. I don't know if TikTok was invented back then? No, it wasn't. It's been a minute.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So, well, you know what sign. Tick-Tac Toe was barely invented. It was a long time ago. All right, let's move on to, oh, boy. L.A., Las Vegas Raiders, Colin. What a dumpster fire this organization is. Back-to-back one and dunes. Pete Carroll now bounced.
Starting point is 00:26:35 How about this Max Crosby situation? He's been frustrated. He was put on IR. Despite claiming he's healthy, he countered by going on Instagram and posting a video of him playing basketball. Anyways, Raiders GM, John SpyTech had this to say when asked if Max Crosby is untouchable.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I have a lot of respect for Max and how much he loves to play the game. And I've had the opportunity in the last several weeks to spend a lot of time with Max. And I think it's been well documented. that he didn't love the idea of not playing football. And I think you always want that from your best players. In fact, I think that's why they're your best players.
Starting point is 00:27:10 So I love Max. He embodies what a Raider is. I've been pretty upfront with that from the day that I sat up here almost a year ago. And I continue to believe that. So Max Crosby is 28, he'll turn 29 in August. He's not as young as Micah Parsons. Micah fetch two firsts and Kenny Clark. What kind of hole can you get for Crosby?
Starting point is 00:27:34 First round pick. for sure? Yeah, I would. Not a high first, like in the 20s. Yeah, I mean, if you were the Dallas Cowboys. Cowboys have a couple of picks, I believe, interesting. You think Cowboys would make a move? No, I don't think that was just, I think there's a lot of people that would like Max Crosby.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I mean, I think maybe you can argue for the Raiders, it is clean house. So what about a team like the Buffalo Bills? They need a receiver. I like Mackay Lemon, the USC receiver to them in the first. But if you're the bills, do you give up your 24th pick and say, we'll take Crosby. Next year we get Bose on one side, Crosby on the other. We get Ed Oliver. We got our defensive front.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Maybe we make a push next year? I don't know. I'm just looking late first round. The Niners, could they give up their pick at 26? Go after Crosby quickly retool next year. I don't know. They're a little long in the tooth. I would like the Niners to get younger.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You know, off the top of my head, think about a team that's, close to a championship and just lacks a consistent pass route. New England Patriots. Drafting 30th, 24th in pressure rate. That makes sense. New England Patriots, I mean, because they're... Their roster's pretty good. The defense doesn't have a lot of game changes.
Starting point is 00:28:56 They don't have... Gonzalez is very good. They create pressure. They're not necessarily a high sack team, but they create pressure. Yeah, but that's not going to... We'll see what happens against Justin Herbert. I think... I like the Chargers here.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I think the Patriots need to pass for us badly. Rayball, defensive guy, we'll see. But either way, we think there's no point in keeping Crosby, right? Well, I think it's time to start over. Mendoza, I would go Kevin Stefanski. I would go Mendoza. There's an argument to trade Max and just get, you know, there's also an argument that keep Max because with Mendoza for four years,
Starting point is 00:29:32 you're not paying him anything. You get Mendoza, Gentie, Bowers. That's a good trio. But, I mean, Crosby leads the. NFL in tackles for losses since he entered the league. Really good. So you're going to get a first and a second, a first and a third and a fifth. I mean, I, there's, I have a 28 year old.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Dude, he is still unblockable in single. I mean, you put one man on him, you lose the battle. Boy, didn't you say the Cowboys won the trade for Micah because they didn't have to pay him? No, I said both teams got what they want. Okay. Cowboys will get more young, inexpensive labor, and the Packers get a closer because they generally lead games in the fourth. They need their Mariano Rivera.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah. All right. Final story, Colin, let's go back to the NBA in this Trey Young situation that's emerging. So it came out, according to Shams over at the other place, saying Trey and his agents, that should be important, are looking for a trade partner. So Atlanta elected to not offer trade. in extension. He has 95
Starting point is 00:30:36 mil left on his deal this year and then next year. Yeah. Somebody really smart on our staff said, well, listen, the bucks are really flailing right now. Yonis ain't staying. You can easily clean up your books by trading Yonnis, getting Trey Young who's going to sell some tickets. They have no back court at all.
Starting point is 00:30:52 He's the opposite of Yonis. He doesn't defend or rebound. He's an offensive guy, clearly. No, I think he's a really fun offensive player. I really do. But he's not somebody that's can defend. Not going to be loved in the locker room because it's kind of his show.
Starting point is 00:31:09 He might be humbled by this, Colin. This is tough. I mean, hey, we don't want to extend you. And now we're trading you. I've met Trey Young. I like him. I think he's a good player. I'm a fan.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But he's one of those guys, you know, the insiders in the NBA are like not terribly well-liked. He doesn't defend. And the knock is always, is he a winning player? He's an exciting player. But is he a winning player? Okay, so I don't know. Conference Championship appearances, Trey Young won, won Joel, and beat zero.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I don't know what that means. Well, the Hawks have a better net rating when he's off the floor. That is also true. That's a big one. And defensively, they're way better without him. Currently, they're flailing. How's this, Colin? For his career, Tray Young's averaging 25 and 9.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Those are crazy good numbers. Yeah. And there's, like, no market for him. That's how the NBA has changed with this new hard cap, third apron nonsense. Also, also, the Lakers are a great example. Nobody defends anybody. You know, Carmelo Anthony, never defense. anybody. How do you do in the playoffs? James Harden didn't defend anybody. I'm sorry guys,
Starting point is 00:32:09 but football and basketball, once the referees swallow their whistle in the playoffs, physicality wins, and guys like Trey Young become much less crucial. His big moment will be taking a bow at MSG in the playoffs. Remember when he hit that game winning shot? That was pretty awesome. That was the height of Trey Young. That was the postseason. They had a great run. And it's all been downhill. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping The herd line news. It's just the numbers. When Trey Young doesn't play, the defense is better.
Starting point is 00:32:42 When he does play, they give up nine more points. I mean, he's literally, it's like a touchdown in football. When Trey Young is on the floor, they give up nine more points because in the NBA, the coaching's so good, they just attack you. They attack Trey Young. And so, you know, all those analytics now, you don't have to watch games all night. GMs don't have to watch games. you can go and look at the analytics of who's good on the floor.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I said this about LeBron James. LeBron no longer defends. And LeBron offensively, J. Mack and I went back and forth on this. When LeBron was hurt to start the season, Austin Reeves and Luca are on fire, and they bring LeBron back and you're like, for a game or two, he's like, hey, I'll be a good teammate. But he's just kind of floating around doing his own thing. J.J. Reddick's complained, I think, more than once, that we have too many possessions that were just sort of ad-libbing. Well, why do you think that is?
Starting point is 00:33:33 That wasn't a problem when Luca and Austin Reeves were running the show. It's The Hurt. Be sure to catch live editions of The HARD weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news.
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Starting point is 00:37:47 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tom Brady joining us Thursday in each week through the NFL playoffs. So the NFL playoff matchups, it's very, very unique, as that the team that faces the most pressure is not the number one-seated Seattle Seahawks in the NFC or the number one-seated Denver Broncos in the AFC. Smack dab.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Look at those Buffalo Bills. Left side of your screen. Six-seat at Jacksonville. A, they're the favorite. That's hard to explain. They're 0-8 in their last eight-road playoff games. they without Mahomes and Burrough in the playoffs are the team that faces because of Josh Allen's
Starting point is 00:38:38 level of play and talent are considered the team that now has its clearest pathway to a Super Bowl since Josh Allen has been a bill the other thing that kind of jumps out to you is if you go look at the teams that have had the longest stretch in the NFL of 10-plus win seasons.
Starting point is 00:39:03 The Bills and Josh Allen are part of that. They're one of seven teams that have had this extended 10-plus winning momentum for years. The problem for Buffalo is that six of the other seven teams, and obviously Brady, Belichick, Patriots was one of them. The problem being the other six of all not just reached the Super Bowl, they've won a Super Bowl. and so Buffalo has yet to reach one. So the pressure is absolutely on Buffalo, and Nick Wright talked about that earlier. I don't know if it's a good or a bad thing for the bills
Starting point is 00:39:40 that the Patrick, Lamar, and Joe, are all, borough are all out of it. It's obviously a good thing in that the field seems so much clearer. If you're worried about them getting tight, that's where it could be a bad thing. There has never been, I say this confidently having done no research on it, but I know it's true. There has never been a sixth seed in the history of the NFL playoffs with more pressure on them to make the Super Bowl than the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, I mean, if you look at it, and we've got a graphic, to win 10 plus games six, seven, eight, nine times, you've got, I mean, look at the teams.
Starting point is 00:40:23 For the radio audience, I'll go slow here. these are the most consecutive seasons of 10 plus wins. The Patriots, obviously, multiple Super Bowls. The 49ers, the Montana years, multiple Super Bowls. Kansas City. You know, there's a lot of things involved here. Mahomes, obviously, Super Bowls. Then the Colts, Peyton Manning, Super Bowls.
Starting point is 00:40:45 The Cowboys, 75 to 81, Super Bowls. And then there's Buffalo in that list of six teams that has, yet to reach a Super Bowl. And I got to tell you, I do not think Vegas makes a lot of mistakes. I had said before the season, I thought the line on the Seahawks upgrading with Sam Darnold, the second year of Mike McDonald. I said, I think the over-under was like nine and a half, ten. I'm like, that's a rare Vegas mistake.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Seattle is going to be multiple wins better with Sam Darnold over Gino Smith and Mike McDonald in his second year. That's a rare Vegas mistake. The number, the future bet was just too low. New England, I understood, because when you spend a lot of money on free agency, you don't know how the pieces fit. And we didn't really know quite that Drake May was certainly what he is now. I do not get the Buffalo being favored at Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:41:44 I don't get the number. I do not get the number. Jacksonville has thumped playoff teams. Thumped Denver. thumped the Chargers. Jacksonville's the better team. And now Buffalo's run game is better, but as J-Mack noted yesterday,
Starting point is 00:42:04 Trevor Lawrence runs a lot, and they run the ball well. So I think Jack, and the other thing that works against Buffalo is their inability against quality teams to jump out with momentum and leads. They play behind way too much.
Starting point is 00:42:23 So in my herd hierarchy, I've been doing this for weeks. I don't know what to do with Buffalo. I know they're good, but I had them at 10 several weeks. And generally, the way I look at my herd hierarchy, the top four teams at any one point, I feel like are the four teams that could win the Super Bowl. I don't see it with Buffalo. I could be wrong. There are numbers that tell you they're better than I think.
Starting point is 00:42:51 But the fact they're a favorite of Jacksonville, boy, is that playing in a Jacksonville's hand. Liam Cohen all week is like, can you believe it? We're a home dog to Buffalo. Can you believe the disrespect for the Jacksonville Jaguars? What an advantage, no pressure, home dog, house money, can use the respect card, which really plays with young athletes. They really get worked up over that.
Starting point is 00:43:18 So, yeah, J-Mack has one pick he loves. He loves the Chargers. I like Jacksonville, and I'm sorry, D.K. Metcalf returning, Tomlin getting the hook three and a half at home. Tomlin's record on Monday night is insane, and Houston probably wins but doesn't score. So I'm writing this one up. Some numbers for you. Just going to throw these numbers out. Patriots, third worst red zone defense, allowing touchdowns 67% of the time. Chargers, fourth best red zone defense. This is interesting. So opponents, who are in the playoffs. Do you know the Patriots played the fewest games against opponents in the playoffs? Four.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Three of them were in the first five weeks of the season. So in the last like 12 weeks, they've played one team that was in the playoffs. Buffalo. Buffalo, and they lost. That's interesting. I mean, they got the weakest schedule. According to this guy, Aaron Chats,
Starting point is 00:44:13 who does some advanced stats, they have the weakest schedule in over 25 years, the Patriots. In the league. They just played a lot of bad teams. an NFC South team. Well, I mean, you don't know what to make some of this stuff because May's numbers are extradate.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I haven't done Blazing 5 yet. I would take Rams minus 10. Aguars plus a point. Eagles minus 4.5. You got to find some dogs in there. Pittsburgh is my favorite dog. I guess. I mean, Pittsburgh, by the way,
Starting point is 00:44:45 it's not that they've just lost like six playoff games in a row. I think they're 0.1 and 5 against a spread or 0 and 6. They're not even competitive. Now, some of those are against Mahomes. I do not. I have, I just Patriots Chargers. It's the late Sunday game. So the crowd is going to be lubricated in Foxborough.
Starting point is 00:45:03 It's hard to go on the road and win those Sunday night games. That will be the loudest crowd of the weekend. I think bears are going to be juiced up for a home game against the Packers. Right? I mean, that's a night game. You know what? Today, what is it? Ryan, is it 50 degrees in Chicago today?
Starting point is 00:45:19 Oh, wow, balmy. Reportedly, it's going to be The sun is going to be out beaming on Saturday. The last Bears playoff game I bet on was the double doink, I think. Remember that? The kick, doink, doink, loss. I'm so excited. Yeah. Then I get the hurricanes.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Ole Miss. Those should be good games as well. Oh. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.
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