The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - How Dave Roberts Handles the Pitching Staff and Practicing Patience with Aaron Glenn

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

Colin has more on the Dodgers going up 2-0 on the Brewers in the NLCS and how Manager Dave Roberts is handling the pitching staff in the series. Colin also discusses how patient the Jets will be with HC Aaron Glenn.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I didn't like them for about 25 years. I like the Griffey Mariners. And then I got frustrated. Got to keep yourself happy. This whole loyalty thing. That's for the birds. All right. Eric Mangini is joining us.

I'm sure he loved that. First things first, Eric Manning. Loved it. Being kind of obnoxious. So it's pretty exciting. It's pretty exciting when you watch something like Drake May happen, and you're like, wow, they've got their guy. Do you think Mike Vrable is even a little surprised,

like end of last year Drake to six games, Drake? I mean, Eric, he looks really good. He's got one awful. pick this year. You think Frabel's even surprised a little? Yeah, I'm really surprised. When you and I have talked about him in the past, I thought he looked a lot like Sam Darnold coming out of college, and Sam Darnold, it took a lot of time, and now he seems in the last year and a half to become the quarterback that people thought he would be, but that's who I saw in the first year, saw elements of that as well.

The biggest benefit to me is Josh McDaniels, and the combination of of Josh McDaniels and Mike Grable. Josh does a great job of creating an offense that a quarterback can be successful in, and he's done a great job with young quarterbacks historically. Remember, he brought Mack Jones to the Pro Bowl when they were together, and Mac was first there. So the progress that he's made is substantial, and I think he's got a chance to continue with it, just based off of that combination of him, Josh, and Braves. Speaking of young quarterbacks, I said this about Caleb.

The two big concerns in college, consistent accuracy, still a problem, and playing with Instructure. Now, I think the latter has gotten better. He's holding the ball a bit too long, but I do think he's playing with Instructure. I mean, this kid could run every play if you want to do. He's really special. but the accuracy thing Eric, I don't know if you ever come into this league

and your accuracy is inconsistent. I guess Josh Allen has cleaned it up. When you look at Caleb, what's correctable and what does Ben Johnson just have to live with? I'm encouraged by Caleb, and you see the wild plays from him, and then we've seen it over the last two years from him, but there were all the mistakes and all the other problems

that went with that, and the encouraging thing to me this year is his sacks have come way down that that's that's a that's a big issue that's been a big issue for him and the fact that he's improved there i think is is significant and every game that he continues to play with ben jonson ben jonson gets to know him better he gets to understand the system better now he's gotten some wins he's strung some wins together so there's confidence that that he's having and then the guys around him start starting getting confidence and that can be contagious. So it's not perfect, but it's a lot better, and it's encouraging.

He's going to be graded at a pretty significant curve because of where he came in. But to me, if I'm a Chicago Bears fan, I think there's a lot to be happy about. So I tend to watch, and I've done this for years. Sometimes I'm maybe I'm generalizing, but I do watch body language. And I do watch coaches, and I do watch quarterbacks, and I remember Jay Cutler early in his career. I'm like, I don't like his body language. Pout on the sideline. That's terrible. Yeah, I didn't like Kyler Murray, and I like Cutter.

I don't like his body language. I've been critical of Aaron when he was a Packer in his prime. And, you know, I just, you know, I kind of look at Sean Payton. And I thought last week in London, he got frustrated with Bowenicks a couple of times. and I think between Mims, Cortland, Sutton, and Franklin, Evan Ingram, Eric, those are good players. Those are guys that can beat you and separate down the field. You could have a really nice, rangy, deep game. And Bo's not good at it right now.

He struggles in the deep ball, like missing badly. And I kind of watched Sean and I thought, Sean, this is now, okay, kid. You know, you've had 20 starts. what do you do when you realize your quarterback may have a hole and you can't necessarily fix it? Yeah, it's hard when you're in that situation. And it's hard when you're Sean Payton. Think about all those years that he lived with Drew Breeze and all the things that Drew Breese could do. And it wasn't just what he could do athletically, but it's what Sean was able to do with the offense creatively,

whether it was shifts, motions, multiple personnel groups. they put so much pressure on you as an offense because of what the two could do combined. So now Sean wants to be able to do all those same things offensively, but he's got a guy that has limitation, and it's not just the physical limitations, but it's experience limitation. And unfortunately, he's going to have to continue to be patient with it, and they're going to have to have a consistent running game against the Jets.

They couldn't run the ball very well. No. They had an offensive lineman. Their guard was subbing in, and he was actually hurt during the game. He's now on IR. So there are problems on the offensive line. There are multiple penalties. That hurt him as well.

The luxury they have in Denver is they're getting saved by the defense, so Knicks can continue to struggle because the defense keeps saving him. I just don't know at what point Sean's going to need more out of his quarterback before, you know, he just gives up on bow but he's not there and the other thing you hear from Sean all the time is cut it loose you know what what do you tell him bo next move on to the next play cut it loose cut it loose and it just doesn't seem like he's comfortable enough taking some shots yeah the um the buffalo bills Nick Wright who um you know occasionally will draw a gym so Nick said he went and looked it up that you've got to win with your star quarterback.

If you don't get to Super Bowls and start winning them, when you get that star quarterback, like, you know, Brady in New England or Mahomes or whoever the quarterback is, Big Ben, Mike Tomlin, very early got him to a Super Bowl. If you don't do it in the first five years, it's not going to happen. Statistically, history of the league. They get expensive. They get beat up. You have to make sacrifices now with a hard cap.

Like, you got to make when the making's good. And the truth is, I can think that Sean McDermott is very organized and also think in a world of Harbaugh and Reed and Sean Payton and the AFC, Shane Steichen now, that defense has let Buffalo down in these big games. And now it's a mess. They cannot stop the run. Can't. At what point?

It sounds weird. Belichick's been fired, Andy Reid's been fired, Vrable's been fired, or we getting to a point here as the GM, you've got to say, guys, we're going backwards. We may need to change at the top. I can't imagine they're at that point right now,

and to Josh Allen's credit, he didn't come in as anywhere close to a finished product, and he got significantly better, and the reason he won the MVP last year is he took care of the biggest problem he had, which was turnovers. and now this year those turnovers are starting to creep back up and last game you could look at the two picks

and the one pick didn't lead to points you know in the first half in the second pick they were down by 10 you know they would add to do you have an outside kick but but it's still it's still a turnover and it's still something that he had he had pretty much eliminated last season but I would imagine if you're Josh Allen you feel like you got to be Superman when Bejohn Robinson's running for

170 yards and then and then what is it Drake London has 10 catches for 160 or whatever he had. And it's just so hard because he wants to play in the way that brings him success. But when you're sitting on the sideline and they're running up and down the field on you and you can't get back on the field, you feel like you have to be super bad at every play. And to me, that's what hurts Josh Allen. Yeah.

Wrap it up with this. Did you ever think Baker Mayfield would be this good? No, no. And you and I talked about Baker a lot when he first came out, and I felt like it was different than confidence. It was a lot of arrogance early on, and that's served them well to some degree. And I think the sort of hero's journey that he's gone on with being traded by the Browns and then a couple different stops now getting Tampa Bay, it's not arrogance anymore, it's confidence. And that to me is different and it resonates. And even as he's playing these guys that haven't had playtime, he appreciates those guys. He enjoys having those guys because he's been there.

He's been the guy that had to climb back up up the mound. So this new version of Baker 2.0 or 3.0, it's really good. And the main concern I have for him is he takes a lot of chance. physically. And I just don't know if that if that's sustainable over the course of the season. Hey, one more. You coached in New York.

And the Cleveland media where you coached is also pretty bitter, but in New York they're not bitter, they're aggressive. And I think that the New York, Boston, Philadelphia media feeds into it, that you have to be aggressive because you're your rivals at the local newspaper, TV station, or talk radio station, or aggressive. So you can come in as a fairly passive guy and you've still got to be aggressive

because the New York, Philly, Boston media, you've got to have teeth, you got to have bite. And so, as you know, but Eric, you were man genius. They loved you initially. They did. They loved you. And they can be tough on people. You

were welcomed. The Aaron Glenn thing, after this past weekend with a coaching at the end of the first half and at the end of the game, owners now fire after one year. They're all billionaires. They're not a hundred millionaires. They're billionaires. What's too early to fire a code? What would surprise you? If Aaron Glenn got fired in three weeks, would you be shocked? Yeah, I would be shocked.

But here's what I think is fair from an ownership perspective is when you come in as a head coach, you outline your vision, you outline your values, you outline your process. And as the season unfolds, it may not go the way that you wanted to. But if you can show to ownership how the vision is you're moving towards that, how you're reinforcing the values you said their team was going to have, and how your process is making some sort of progress, then ownership can take a look at that and say, okay, we'll be patient. But part of being a head coach, and especially a young head coach, is there needs to be some humbleness, too. You can believe wholeheartedly in what you're doing, but you need to have a little bit of humbleness to know that you don't know everything.

And then you also need to have the strength of character as to when you make a mistake to say, okay, I'm going to change this. I'm not just going to stick with this because it's a decision I made. And that's the line that you walk as a new head coach and especially a new head coach that's not having success. And then you have the game like you had last week where there's historic numbers that aren't very good. Woody is patient to a point I wouldn't put him

on the high patient scale but you better be able to show something positive based off of what you brought in yeah the Jets you know they argued to the media

hey we gave Sala years I always have this theory that if you've got a really smart guy in the building like Mike Frable you don't let him go if I got a company Like I thought Robert Sala was too good of a defensive coach to fire him. You know, and if you're going to do it, man, you better have somebody ready, not an interim guy.

I just, when I watched that game against Denver, it was a little malpractice there. Some of that coaching did not make any sense to me at all. Yeah, and look, if you have a game like that, you can't go up and sit in front of the media and lecture them and tell them they know better when they ask you, a question, they're not going to stand for that. They've been watching a lot of football for a lot of years, and they're really knowledgeable. So if you're going to start lecturing from your podium after getting a beat down, you better be ready for the repercussions. Eric Mangini, first things first, he'll be fighting off Nick Wright. You know, the only downside of the Chiefs winning is, you know, those shows get, you know what?

Seatric? No, it's not. I'm fine with it being a lot of Chiefs winning. I just don't want, you know, Nick out there using the hammer. Whack-a-Mole on all his panelists, Sarah. He can be kind of tough on you guys. Yeah, you know, they win one game after having 13 penalties against Jacksonville, and they're going to the Super Bowl, according to Nick. Exactly.

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No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. All right, Colin, we touched on the Penn State head coaching vacancy earlier. This Marcus Freeman stuff. I mean, listen, Joel Clatt addressed it. I would say there's 0.0% chance that Freeman entertains it. Remember, the Bears were looking at him in January, Colin.

That was in the national championship in January. He's going back to the playoff if they beat USC this weekend, which are big favorites. I cannot envision a world where Freeman even gives this an ounce of thought. This will be a clear step down for him. His next stop is the NFL club. Yeah, I think his next stop is the NFL. That's a good point. I didn't even think, I mean, it's almost disrespectful to Notre Dame.

Yeah. Because I think Notre Dame is a better program. I'm not going to put them in order, but I think there's about seven programs that are just perfect. You know, you're Michigan, your Ohio states. I think Notre Dame is, you know, everybody's got something. I mean, Notre Dame, it's tough academically. Oregon is kind of out. Oregon's not a state with a lot of division with high school players.

Ohio state's about as good a program as you're going to get where you can get anybody mostly in. It's committed. It's got money. You know, Columbus is a sizable city. There's stuff to do there. You can take a recruit out. There's stuff to do. It's a fun.

So I'm, I mean, listen, Brian Kelly left Notre Dame for LSU, so I think it's a great job, but I think the Notre Dame job is one of those eight years, and it's great. It's like managing the Yankees. Like, it's just, I mean, Aaron Boone, I know fairly well. You know, I've had dinner with Aaron before, and we've had a lot of conversations before he was the Yankee manager. I think his personality is built for that job, and maybe Marcus Freeman's. But, you know, Brian Kelly was so intense.

The intensity of the job wore him out. And maybe Brian wore himself out. But I do think, I think it's a good point. I think Freeman's next stop is an NFL job. And I think if he coaches seven or eight years, he'll have so many of his players in the NFL that he'll enter somewhere in the NFL that's got five guys from the Irish on the roster, and he can draft three more. And I think that matters.

I think Harbaugh, you know, he's got so many guys around the league that he's touched. that are, you know, so Jim came in the second time. He could bring his staff. He had the quarterback. The L.A. media is not as relentless and doesn't have as much bite. So I think Freeman, about six to eight years at Notre Dame, and then he's an NFL. I don't see him shorter than that. And I forgot, you just talked so glowingly about Ohio State.

Freeman's got some connections to Ohio State. So I guess that's enough. If Ryan Day says I've had enough, I went back to back, whatever. I'm out. I'm going to the NFL or whatever. It is interesting. Brian Kelly went Notre Dame LSU, Lincoln Riley, Oklahoma, USC. I mean, it happens. I just don't think it happens here. Yeah, it definitely doesn't. I mean, listen, I want to push back on what Klat said.

And I got to ask you this, like, doesn't it not look good if you're Penn State and you're calling, hey, let's call Nick Sabin, let's call Markets Freeman? And then you're calling all these guys in Whiffing. I know the perception, who cares what the outside things, but at the same time, Colin, doesn't it look like, well, maybe this isn't a great job. If those guys are not even entertaining it, is it that good of a job? Good point. Again, just, all right, let's move on to

Story you've been waiting for for two hours. Skinny Luca making his preseason debut cooking. And I mean cooking the Phoenix Suns, 25, 7 and 4. Only played 22 minutes, basically unstoppable. I like that he was getting to the line. He looked a lot more spry. Skinny Luca, pretty much unstoppable, Colin. I know NBA preseason, it's fantastic.

Go ahead. Rip the suns. Take shots. No, I mean, listen, nobody dominates G-League players like Luca. I do think between LeBron's injury and Lucas, I mean, he does look just different. He looks like rookie year Luca. So I think he's going to dominate possession time. Like, he's going to lead the NBA and ball in hand.

He's going to lead it. And I think he should, as LeBron's aging. I said, LeBron's going to have to play off ball more than he's ever played because Luca's not giving the rock up. And Austin Reeves likes the ball. And they're both younger and they're both in their athletic crime. So I think that's not a terrible thing for LeBron. But this is now, Skinny Luca is 32 points a game, Luca.

And it's ball-centric, Luca. And at this point, I'm okay with that. Yeah. I think LeBron should downshift to 60 games. And by the way, 33 minutes a night. That's where I think LeBron's at. And also, listen, Luca's doing small things. I know you don't follow the Lakers on social media,

but he took the team to a car dealership and they raced around tracks. He's like switching jerseys with players at practice. You can tell that clearly that off-season talk with the GM, And he's taken on a leadership role with the Lakers. Let me ask you this. Here's another little thing. Did he talk about defense? Playing defense, that little thing?

Yeah, yeah. He's a solid defender when he wants to be. I think he's going to be locked in this year. I know the car dealership was cute. If he could guard somebody, I'd appreciate that. All right. I see what we're doing here. We're pushing back on the Lakers.

It's going to be a fun season ahead. Final story, Colin is this is a little wacky. Again, it's goofy to talk MVP. It's goofy to talk playoffs. But Colin, We have an image here of the top seeds, the current playoff teams through six games. This is about 35% of the season. Colin, your Kansas City Chiefs are not currently in the playoffs.

That's how rotten they've been. Now, this would be a crazy playoffs that this holds. It won't. No Joe Burrow, no Lamar Jackson, no Patrick Mahomes. I don't know that the NFL's ready for a postseason like that. Jackson Bill's going to unravel. I think the Chargers, when Alton Hampton come back, will stabilize. I think Kansas City for sure is going to make it.

I'm not sure Buffalo will. Oh, geez, you're overreacting. Come on. Okay. You're not sure Buffalo is going to make the playoffs? Have you seen their schedule? Can we get the bill's schedule on the screen? Cowherton needs to see 12 wins.

They're going to be fine, bro. Oh, my God. Not make the playoffs. Playoffs! I'm just saying Denver, Chargers, Chiefs could all make the playoffs from the AFC West. And by the way, the Colts are a playoff team. Yes. Okay, well, what of Houston this week?

Houston goes into Seattle, and that's a two and a half three-point spread. Houston wins that game. Okay, Jackson Bill's good. Remember, these southern conferences, I mean, it's just easier schedules. So, New England's not going away. Here's a bill schedule. So they're on a buy this week, lick their wounds, come out of it, they'll smash the Panthers. And then the matchup with your boy, Patrick Mahomes.

Bills will win that, so they'll be six and two. Then they beat the dolphins. Tampa Bay go either way, I guess. Houston, Aaron Rogers. Come on. You know what I see? I see a lot of apps. At Carolina.

At Houston. At Pittsburgh. I see a lot of at New England. Those games, those are, hey, that defense, I just watched them get. pushed around by Atlanta. Drake London had 10 catches. Don't tell me there are bad run defenses have a way of keeping Josh Allen on the sidelines. The worst thing you can have when you have a great quarterback is a bad run defense. You can have holes everywhere.

If your run defense is bad, you're in trouble because that means that you're going to lose time of possession. Teams are going to convert third downs. This run defense is horrible for Buffalo. Well, just like how Rishi Rice is going to save the Chiefs. Matt Milano, one of the great linebackers in the NFL. He's coming back from injury soon after the buy. He'll save everything. He'll plug the run defense holes.

Bills are winning in 11 or 12 games, Colin. All right. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Line News. Last baseball postseason, do you remember seeing the Red Ostrich on the baseball batting helmet at Strauss?

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Come on. I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky. I'm not an alcoholic.

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Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,

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Part of baseball that is fun that you can play along with baseball, and you get into these high leverage situations. So in game one, Blake Snell pitched for the Dodgers and was as good as anybody has been since they said Don Larson. It was Kofax level. And then Dave Roberts decided. even though he wasn't struggling at all, retired 17 straight. Milwaukee could not hit the ball out of the infield since the third inning.

And they went to the bullpen. And I wouldn't have done that. It's game one. Prioritized the moment, right? You prioritize today over, you know, setting up your bullpen. So Dave Roberts said after, when they went to the bullpen, and it was wobbly. Dave Roberts said it was 50-50. I would have gone with Snell there.

He was on fire. They couldn't hit the ball out of the outfield, infield. He's great. Over 100 pitches. It's the opener, and I don't want a rookie on the road taking over for him. But yesterday was different. So Yoshi, Yamamoto, was not as good as Snow, though dominant, but you already had a 1-0-series lead. You already had a 1-0-series lead, and you had a 4-run cushion.

And now it's game two. There's less pressure. So to me, a lot of it's so circumstantial and situational. Okay, I want to win a game before I experiment. I wouldn't have gone to the bullpen with Snell because I just want, it's game one, he'll have plenty of rest. But Dave Roberts, I mean, even the announcers last night were speculating what is Dave Roberts going to do now here with Yoshi. And now if you're Dave Roberts, you have to start thinking. seriously about allowing Yamamoto to finish this game.

I don't think he's going to finish this game. Because of the big delay in the eighth inning, because the offense of the Dodgers, he's going to give him this inning, and I think Banda will probably finish it in the ninth. But let's see. I mean, we're watching baseball from the 70s and 80s now with this kind of starting pitching by the Dodgers. Yeah, you know, it's, listen, it worked. And so backseat driver. It's sort of powerless.

It worked. I just would have done the opposite. I would have stuck with Snell and gone to the bullpen. But, you know, it worked. And I also think, you know, whatever analytics tells you to do, analytics basically wants you after the sixth inning. They want you to go to the bullpen. But postseason baseball is different.

There's jobs on the line. There's so much money on the line that, you know, Dave's like, I just like the look of him. I mean, just think about what it came down to. Dave was like, I like the look. I like the feel. I like the body length. I like the vibe. So here was Dave Roberts' response after last night's decision. I see a real confidence. I think that's what it is. I think that, you know, last year, certainly there was a transition.

And even in the postseason, I didn't give him a whole lot of leash. But I think this year, he's got true confidence for me that third time through at pitch, 90, he feels that He's the best option. And so I think for me, that just gives me that confidence. You know, the thing about this. Last year, as they were battling in the playoffs, there were people that went out and said, I don't know if Dave Roberts is the guy. I don't know.

But Aaron Boone gets criticized. He's two-player-friendly. And Dave Roberts, similarly, two-player-friendly. Let me throw a theory out to you. So I used to work in minor league baseball. And baseball is so different because, The season is so long. If you start with spring training until the end,

you're with these guys for 200, 200 days. And the players have to like you. I remember Jimmy Rawlins, the former Philly telling me, it takes one guy to ruin a clubhouse. Takes one guy to ruin a clubhouse. The players really like Dave Roberts. And if you're going to make an error, like Aaron Booner Dave Roberts,

the error or Pat Murphy, the error has to be you were too loyal. NFL's different. You can just cut guys. You can trade them, cut them. get rid of them. It's a coach-dominated GM-dominated sport. But baseball, you have longer contracts, more

guarantees, and you are together for so long that I'm going to support like the player-friendly manager. You're trying to build trust. I would rather lose a game in the short term, not in the playoffs. I'd rather

lose a game on loyalty. I think that'll play well. I think that I'm not saying ice cream for breakfast parent, but I think Aaron Boone and Dave Roberts tend to be very, very hospitable and trust my guy managers. So I met last year they played the Padres. That was the craziest series.

The Dodgers threw a bullpen game, and I think it was like a shutout. It was an insane series. But they trailed the Padres last year, two to one in the first round of the playoffs. And the potteries were young and cocky and had good energy, and then the Dodgers eventually steamrolled them. But, you know, I thought Milwaukee and Philadelphia were going to give Los Angeles trouble,

but the bullpen's been fine because they're not using it much. I mean, the starting pitching is just insane. And that's the Mariners Blue J Series. I mean, Yankees, maybe if Garrett Cole was available for the Yankees, it's different. But no Dodger fan. had great faith in the bullpen, and it's just really mostly been a non-factor. Steamrolled Cincinnati and Philadelphia and now Milwaukee.

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