The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Jayden Daniels and JJ McCarthy injuries, questions about Caleb Williams, thoughts on the Broncos and Bo Nix, Mark Schlereth

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

Colin talks to Mark Schlereth about the issues facing the Denver Broncos, Caleb Williams needing to get on page with Ben Johnson, week 2 of the NFL and more Colin talks about Jayden Daniels and JJ McCarthy being injured and if they will be ready to play in week 3.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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commanders game, so you know he's watching the Raiders tonight, he's joining us live. Before we get into that brutal Denver loss, there is, we have never had more sharp, young offensive coaches, Mark, and a lot of these offensive coaches, they come from the Kyle Shanahan

tree, which is structure and timing. And I don't know. I don't think that's what Caleb is. Is it just possible? This is a bad fit. I I don't know about bad fit, Colin. I will tell you this.

So one of the things that I struggle with when I was watching Caleb Williams coming out of USC is how many times he turned down a wide open throw to go make something better happen. And I think one thing about the National Football League is boring is the way you win. Being on time, being on schedule is the way you win. But when historically you've been rewarded,

you've been praised, You've had accolades. You've had all these things, you know, generational talent. Because every time you break out of the pocket, every time you scramble around when you're in college, you have better athletes. You're a better athlete than the rest of the guys. You make big time plays.

That's not how the NFL works. When he was on schedule, when they were scripting plays in that first half, he was 14 of 19. He ended up 19 of 30, right? So all of a sudden, you get off track, you get off schedule, you try to make something big happen, and that's when bad things happen to you.

So he's shown that he can do it. It's just when they get off that script, when all of a sudden you're no longer on that, and the defense adjusts, can you stick with that? Can you get out of your own head? Hey, when I have to make a play, you know, all of a sudden, I've got to go scramble around, and I've got to do something special. That he's got to get over that.

He's got to be on schedule. He's got to put the ball in a place where the receivers can catch it. and do something with it afterwards, and hunting is okay. And so those are things that he is going to have to learn. But when your whole career and your whole life, you've been rewarded because you're such a great athlete, I always say this, column, when things break down as a quarterback, your reaction has to be from the neck up, not from the neck down. It can't be, hey, I'm a better athlete than everybody else.

Let me go make a play. You've got to think your way through that, and you've got to be able at some point to dump the ball off or to throw it out of bounds and punt, those are the things that you can have to learn how to do. So if people didn't watch the Denver game, three big mistakes, a J.K. Dobbins, a tight end, the kick. And I thought Bo Nix played much better,

but I had a really rough interception on the fourth. And I've said this. I picked them to win their division. They have been really sloppy. Defensively, Daniel Jones ate them apart. Now, I think the Colts have better personnel than people give them credit for. Warren, Jonathan Taylor, Pitman, Pierce. Indie's got a roster. They got players. But how is it playing? I mean, you're very popular in Denver, sports radio.

They just look off to me. Is it too early to be concerned? No. I mean, ultimately, you know, it doesn't really matter who your quarterback is. It doesn't really matter, you know, who your receivers are. It doesn't really matter. As Joe Burrow, if you can't dominate the line of scrimmage, guess what? You can't win in this league and the annapolis colts absolutely dominated the line of scrimmage the one thing that was a big talking point calling for you and myself and everybody else in the media was this is an elite level defense this is the best defense in football this could be a generational type defense this defense got beat up on line of scrimmage they could not generate a pass rush they could not stop the

run when you're playing second down in five on every play because your running back is churning out yardage And then you're busting coverages. You're throwing the ball. Daniel Jones looked great. The quick game was awesome. Their crossing routes were great. They did a phenomenal job of beating the Denver Broncos. And that pass rush was never allowed to be unleashed.

And they say this all the time in the NFL. You earn the right to rush the pastor with how you defend the run. They couldn't defend the run. They never got into their pass rush. They had one sack over the course. It was a linebacker, sternod, and it was off a blitz. Other than that, they never sniffed Daniel Jones throughout the rest of the day. So, yeah, it was sloppy offensively.

Bow Nix looked a lot better, but he threw that untimely pick. The Broncos have been sloppy throughout the first two games of the season without question, and that elite-level defense got pushed around yesterday. So you had several surgeries. I said, I don't know who Dak Prescott's surgeon was, but he looks reborn. He's running. They asked him to throw 52 times. against a pretty good defensive front.

And I always thought when a player got a surgery, he had to play himself back into confidence. And I don't know what, I mean, Dak's off-season must have been profound. I am shocked by how young he looks, how active he looks, he looks like he's in the best shape of his life. Are you at all surprised by Dak and this Dallas offense?

No, listen, I've been a guy that has been, been a Dak Prescott fan since the day he got in this league. I think he's got this old soul about him. I'm with you 100%. He is moving. He has been on target. Remember, man, he was completely on target in that first game, had a bunch of drops in that first game, that Thursday opener against Philadelphia. So I think the guy has been amazing 52 attempts. And I thought what was really cool, when the game was on the line, when it was crunch time, man, he went out and found himself C.D. Lamb. He got some big plays from him. And then George

Pickens is such a threat over the top. The underneath game, I thought, smart coaching by Brian Schott-Eymer and that staff. Get the ball to Pickens underneath. You know, you're so worried about him beat you over the top. And Dak Prescott operating that office. Now, defensively, they've got to clean some stuff up, right?

You just can't give up big play after big play and not cover guys. But offensively, what a game. And how about their kicker? 64 yards to tie it up to get into overtime? That's just ridiculous. It's not fair. It's ridiculous.

So I'm watching Philadelphia, and I said this, nothing helps your defense like a profound run game, because now we've got 17 games. The Steelers have the second oldest roster in the league to Washington. So they got some veteran players. And so to keep them off the field, you've got to pick up first down. Well, the Steelers don't. they're like 30th in time of possession.

They're 29th or 30th in yards per rush. So it's an old defense and they're on the field too much. So when I watch Philadelphia, I don't know if their defense is great. But your great Bronco teams and your great Washington teams had this ability. When the game was tied at half, you knew like a great baseball pitcher. You were going to wear people down in the second half. That game was 10-10 at half. And I'm like, oh, this is Philadelphia.

This is built for Philadelphia. Kansas City has no run game. And I want you to speak about that, about going into a game, always knowing we got the better online, we got the better run game, and how it affects halftime changes and second half half possessions. Yeah, well, I mean, number one, you're going to bail your defense out, right? You're going to keep them fresh because playing defense, frankly, is harder than playing offense when it comes to the energy that you expend.

I mean, you know, if I block you and our running back takes off and he's down the field for 10, 11 yards, as a defense, you got to chase it. You know what I do? I go to where we're going to huddle. I just walk. I don't give a rip. And so it is. It takes more effort to play on that side of the ball. So the more you can control the tempo, the more you control the cloth, the better off you are.

The other thing that ends up happening is you have the ability, if you can do that, to eliminate the pass rush in the full. fourth quarter. And when guys are tripping over their tongues because they're exhausted from getting worn out from you controlling the tempo of the game, guess what? There is no fourth quarter pass rush. And you win. Bill Wallace used to say it all the time.

The key to winning in the National Football League is rushing the quarterback in the fourth quarter, being able to put that rush on. Well, if you're worn out from trying to defend the run, there's no way you can do that. And I always say this about understanding the run game because I think a lot of teams just don't, right? They think if they pop a draw on third down

and six and they get 19 yards, man, they're really running the ball. That's not running the ball, right? That's tricking people. Running the ball is getting in the red zone when everybody knows the field is short, right? The safety's heels are at eight yards. So you're facing an eight, nine man boss and you say, we're going to run it down your throats anyway. And we're going to get four or five yards of carry. When it's third down and three and you've got to convert a third down and two you've got to convert, everybody knows you're going to run it, and you've got to kill the cloth, and form in an offense, can you get that done?

That, to me, is what running the ball is. I always look at not yards per carry, but how many attempts did our running backs get? The only guy who ran the ball for Kansas City with any effectiveness was Patrick Mahomes. That was it. The running backs didn't do anything, you know, for a yards per carry average or for the attempts that they got.

So, yeah, I'm big with you on that running game and what it does for you as an overall football team, your mentality, what it does for your defense, and how you control the tempo of the game when you can do that. Ask Joe Burrow, if you'd like to get out of shotgun and not being shotgun 24-7 and, you know, and all the weight on his shoulders at all times throwing the football. You know, it's interesting about Burrell, they don't have much of a run game. And I was saying this, certain guys just don't get hurt. Eli Manning and Tom Brady mostly didn't get hurt.

And Justin Fields and Joe Burrell are hurt a lot. the offensive line always gets blamed. And sometimes a guy blows a left tackle misses. But when I watch Burroughs injuries, could I not argue, Joe holds the ball until the last second. And when you don't have elite blockers, you're prone to get hurt that some of this is on Burrow or a Justin Fields or quarterback's.

Trevor Lawrence has been dinged up through the years. Isn't some of it on the quarterback? Well, sure. You know, I always say this, that quarterback, like sacks have become more quarterback-driven statistic than they are an O-line-driven statistic. In today's game, man, you've got how many bubble screens, how many swing passes, how many tunnel screens, how many three-step prop game, you know, your quick game and all that stuff. The ball's out of the quarterback's hands in two and a half seconds on a consistent basis.

So a lot of that goes on the quarterback. But the problem that I always have with Cincinnati is you line them up in shotgun. I think the first 25, 30 plays, they had two under center plays, one on the goal line and one in the open field. They're all shotgun plays. So you're asking him to basically throw the football from shotgun. When you get into gun, man, you eliminate a large portion of your run game. And play action is not nearly as good out of that. So again, I'll go to the coaching staff.

And the way they operate as an offense, they put it all on his shoulders and say, go win us a football game, Joe. So I would say, what is Joe supposed to do? Because that's the offense that you've asked him to create, or that's the offense that you've asked him to play in. And so I just think they never, ever take a load off of Joe Burrow. It's always on him. And frankly, it irritates me that that's the way they operate as an offense, because I think you're wasting one of the great talents

in all the national football league because you don't protect him and you don't take any of the weight off his shoulders. you have been playing on the high dive 65 out of 65 plays, hey Joe, go win it for us, okay, do it. And I don't agree with that philosophy of football. Mark

Slareth, that Denver loss, I'm not going to say I had money on it, but let's just say the kids college fun. It was bad, Colin. It was bad. It was. Good seeing you, Mark, as always. I appreciate it. Take care. He's got the commanders

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I don't know if you guys noticed, J. Mack, USC remains undefeated. I'll tell you, if you don't know about Lincoln Riley and you have questions, Jordan Mayava, that quarterback in one year has got to be the most improved quarterback in the country. Last year, he wouldn't throw the ball away, tried to extend plays. he's the number one ranked college quarterback in the country.

So we're counting the win over Purdue? That counts? Yeah, I don't know if you know about Purdue, but their engineering department is among the very best. All I'm going to say is defensive line, best since Pete Carroll. I'm just kidding. And Lincoln Riley has taken a quarterback from UNLV, who has talent but was mistake prone last year. he has totally cleaned that kid's game up. Jordan Mayava, Jaden Mayava looks outstanding.

Like I didn't think people asked me before the season, USC fans, what do you think? I'm like, I don't know if the quarterback works. I, you know, he makes too many mistakes.

New guy, like a new player. Can you just, I know you've committed the schedule to memory, so can you tell me when their schedule really starts when they play out real team? Well, they host the very explosive Michigan State Spartans this week. Oh, yeah.

What's the line on that one? Oh, then they play the most underrated team in the country, Illinois, in the Frigid Midwest. That's a game. Now, are you going to that? Do you have some receipts? I'm absolutely going. I've got my USC red Trojan shoes, very excited. I saw those on social media. Yes, yes. By the way, they snuck into the rankings at 25th. They're such an anti-USC bias. It's shameful. Yeah. Everybody loves Notre Dame. They're Owen, too, and they're ranked. I know. It's amazing, isn't that?

J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, it's time to talk about those putrid Miami dolphins. Owen 2. They actually showed well against the Patriots and should have had a shot. Tua with a bad interception late.

Here's a miss of Tyreek Hill. Tyreek's reaction, not good. Mike McDaniel spoke about the last possession of the game where Tua got picked and his job security. I got to play call in, but I need to. to do a better job supervising all of the orchestration within our multiple personnel groups. So to win games, you have to win the game, not lose the game, honestly. And that is how you lose the game.

Yeah, proficient and prophetic. It was an interesting game in which Patriots got, Antonio Gibson, had a big special team's kickoff return for a touchdown. and Drake May looked okay. Like he just needs more starts. He doesn't look overwhelmed. He just looks raw. But overall, the Patriots, that's a big win for them now

because the Jets look lost. And now Justin Fields is hurt. So Buffalo is going to win the division. I had New England as a wildcard team. They beat Miami in South Florida. So then that means, oh, Miami falling apart has to go up to Foxx. as the weather becomes more frigid, so it looks like New England, has a big, big win for New England.

Mike McDaniel looks like a government employee who lost his job in the doge cuts. I mean, he has just, like, gaunt and, like, just dry. And I know it was cool when they were winning, right? But now he looks kind of down in the dumps. I'm just wondering, when do they try to trade Tyreek Hill, sell any defender who's not bolted down? Like, they just got to start getting picks. That team needs a full reboot.

This is a tear down to the studs, Colin. Yes, no, we agree. There's a lot of things that aren't working, but this is coach, GM, scouting department, tear it to the studs. Okay, I'm reading here. Tua took a veiled shot at McDaniels saying, I was frustrated with the communication. The whole operation was not up to standard.

Wow. That's not good. Wow. Was that today? No, I don't know. This was apparently after the game. He was disappointed. Like, everybody's trying to.

deflect blame, right? It's not my fault. Hey, communication wasn't up to standard. GM is going to throw the coach under the bus. Coach is going to throw the GM. It's basically every man for himself at this point in Miami. Those are fun to watch. So we'll enjoy that. Next up is the Jags, Colin. This is kind of an interesting one. Okay, watch on screen here. Liam Cohen very upset that Trevor Lawrence would sail to a pass high. The receiver was open. He's like, hit him in the chest. He's pointing to his chest. And Trevor Lawrence kind of is like, all right, settle down.

Listen, I don't think this is a huge deal, but the internet and all these trolls online think this is like, oh my gosh, JeffCon won. Here's Cohen on the situation. That was just one throw. I was pissed. You know, it is what it is. You know, it's not, that's emotion. It's not personal ever. We can win with them playing like that in limiting, obviously, the turnovers, you know, whether it's whose fault.

Is it my fault? Is it a play car? Was it bad design? Was it an errand throw? Was it a miss block? Who knows what that looks like? But I was very proud of the competitor that he was today. Some people are complaining that Brian Thomas, the receiver, is avoiding contact.

What is he doing, man? Broodal drop yesterday. There was also a drop in the end zone by the Jags by a different player. So again, touchdown dropped and could have been a play that ended up in the end zone drop. So I'm not blaming Trevor Lerner. Lawrence for yesterday. 100% agree. Again, this is like people who are box score watching.

Just a reminder, Jags are up three inside the Bengals 10-yard line. Yeah. With like four minutes left. Okay? You could kick and go up six. I don't advocate that, right? That's stupid. You're going to lose on a touchdown.

Or you just get five yards, you know, and they couldn't get it disappointing. And then, you know, Browning takes it the length of the field. Let's not overreact. People want to dump Trevor Lawrence after this. I'm like, I know he had the end of him. and he wasn't great. But, like, Travis Hunter had a brutal pass interference call on fourth down. I mean, that wins the game.

It was a dicey call. I'm not selling my Liam Cohen stock. You guys can sell. I'm sticking with this guy. I think he's a winner, Colin. Second week in a row, the one o'clock window on the red zone. Oh, gosh. Butter chaos.

Just chaos at the end of games. All right. Final story, Colin, I want to save some room for this. I'm obsessed with this. So LSU beats Florida 20 to 10. LSU did not look good. Their MVP was basically the punter. But afterward, the press conference opened.

The first question really ticked off Brian Kelly. Colin, this is classic. Listen, take a listen. Your micro, you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. LSU won the football game. Won the game. I don't know what you want for me. What do you want?

You want us to win 70 to nothing against Florida to keep you happy? There's some ridiculous questions. and I'm getting tired of it. That football team just worked their tail off to get an SEC win and you want to know what's wrong. You know what? You're spoiled. You're spoiled.

Well, not ideal. Although the players probably love it. I mean, welcome to the SEC and welcome to the media. I would say his players love that support. I mean, LSU beat Clemson. That does not look as impressive. And Florida's not very good. So what they're doing is they're kind of narrowly beating teams that are not very good.

But that's the SEC. And I think, now I do think college teams have a right to get better. We know in the NFL the teams get better. I mean, Bill Belichick during the dynasty, New England wasn't a dominating September team. And college teams get better. So I don't know, I, I, I, LSU is a good football team. They're not an undefeated football team eventually, but they've got a pro quarterback, a more than capable coach.

And also, you know, Florida had just lost a game. Yeah. It was embarrassing. So Florida is probably going into that game with absolute urgency and defending themselves, the pride of the program, the pride of Gainesville. See, you're probably got an incredible. That's a bad throw by Nussmeier. That's terrible, yeah. But you're probably getting an inspired effort by a team that just got humiliated.

those are the worst kind of teams to play. So it's not apples to apples, but the Eagles had, what, 215 yards of offense in Kansas City? Imagine if the first question Jalen Hertz got was like, hey, you threw for 100 yards, what's wrong with the offense? Jalen Hertz would have calmly been like, we got the win. That's what matters. Now, Brian Kelly is like, what stop it?

What's wrong? And I kind of like that emotion and energy. Well, the college coaches to a fault, you know, the richest paid state employee. They tend to be very tribal and very provincial and very protective. Whereas, and I've always given Jalen Hertz and Dak the compliment of when those guys step to the podium, no matter how dumb the question, DAC or Jalen Hertz handle it, some of these college coaches are so wound up and it's such a pressure cooker,

especially in the SEC, they just lose their mind when a reporter goes after him. I mean, we've already seen Sark get worked up at the podium and Brian Kelly get worked up at the podium. And that's the reality. there's a ton of pressure. You know, the player graduates and move on. Yeah. You know, the coach has to deal with boosters and the A.D. And the fans and talk radio.

So these college football coaches get worked up very quickly. And you're great point. He has the run of the state right now. Nobody can question Brian Kelly. That's right. Now they have Southeast Louisiana next. That's a dub. But then they go to Ole Miss.

That's a big one against your guy, Lane Kiffin. Yeah. I'm very, if they lose that, it's going to be open season on Brian Kelly. If he wins that, you know he's going to be like, Hey, what's up? We took down-lane Giffin. What do you want for me now? You know, like, so this schedule is a gauntlet.

Okay, the Texas A&M, Alabama, Oklahoma. I mean, they got some brutal game. Vanderbilt is no pushover. I know you're up on Vanderbilt. No, Vanderbilt this year. Vanderbilt can play. A&M's tough. Alabama now seems to have their act together.

They're not winning 10 or 11 games with this schedule. There's just no way. It's a typical SEC schedule. At Ole Miss, at Vandy, at Bama, at Oklahoma. Yeah, Oklahoma's good. Oklahoma's defense, juniors and seniors,

and they have a quarterback. So, by the way, Lincoln Riley and Brent Venable seem to have ridded the ship a little bit. One's got their offense humming, and the defensive guy in Oklahoma's got his defense humming, so it looks like they both took a couple of years, and if you watched Oklahoma and USC,

they do look more stabilized with very good quarterback play. And I know some people in this building who are happy you just brought this back to USC to close the segment. Trojans, hey, how about them? Very interesting. No, I mean, Oklahoma and USC a couple years ago,

we didn't know if they had the right coach. But I think USC's offense and Oklahoma's defense, you're like, yeah, that works. That plays. Those are potential playoff teams. I'm saying they're getting there. I don't think we'll see what Notre Dame is. I looked at that as an L for the Trojans in South Bend.

We'll just wait and see. Wait and see what happens. J. Mack with a new. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. A star quarterback in the NFL, not Joe Burrow, but a star quarterback could miss next week. We'll give you an update in that next.

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All right, the Washington Commanders, their Sunday game against the Raiders. Raiders play the night against the rival Chargers, division game. Jaden Daniels may not play. They've got a knee injury status is up in the air. Not serious, but Jaden Daniels may not play. Now, there were J-MAC, there were rumors last week. People were saying he was limping. He looked, something was off.

now it's been validated that jaden daniels is not 100 percent so the big concern many had when he came into the league was not that he didn't have the maturity or accuracy uh or or ability to move the big concern was he is kind of thin kind of a teddy bridgewater build and people worried about his durability in the nfl so he got banged up a little bit last year he got banged up this year he's fine my guess is he probably plays the other one we're at week three and next week, Jake Browning, back up to Joe Burrow, will play against Carson Wentz, back up to J.J. McCarthy. So reportedly today, J.J. McCarthy has been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Bengals due to an ankle injury. So J.J. McCarthy, who got injured last year, right? Remember,

couldn't play last year because of an injury. He is now in week three injured again. And he's getting popped. And one of the knocks on McCarthy, I think, through two weeks is he holds the ball too long. So, Jay, now, again, what is injury prone? I think it's fair to say, Joe Burrell may have to change his style a bit. He's injury prone. Justin Fields banged up again. He may have to change his style.

So J.J. McCarthy now has a serious injury, could not play last year. We're in week three. Can't play again. So it's something. I said before, Sam Darnold came into this league. Sam held the ball too long. He too often ran into traffic. He got banged up.

Justin Herbert, first two years in the league, was putting. a shoulder down and going into linebackers. You can't do that. So I'm not blaming anybody, but week three, Vikings Bengals is a backup quarterback game already. And Colin, it's a great point. This is why GMs and coaches want their quarterbacks to win from the pocket. We don't want you running. A lot of bad things can happen when you're on the run. The problem is Burrow got hurt in the pocket. It appears as if McCarthy got hurt in the pocket. What is this? It's about the offensive line, Colin. Minnesota's offensive line banged up. up, missing the left tackle and the center got concussed.

Bengals' offensive line is a joke. If you don't protect your expensive investment, this is on you, right? I mean, I can't feel bad for these teams losing their quarterbacks. Washington went out and got tonsile. They did the right thing. And Daniel still got hurt. But down four starters already heading into week three is not great for the NFL five. We'll see what happens with fields and the concussion.

Yeah, the, I mean, I guess I look, I think about definitive opinion. I'm trying to think of definitive opinions I have through three weeks. One of them is Caleb and Ben Johnson is a weird fit. I mean, they upgraded their old line and it still feels like he's under constant duress. That bears offense is a weird fit. The Indianapolis Colts have a really good roster and Daniel Jones and Shane Stike, and you can say what you want, but he plays now with a much more confidence I think Indies just got better offensive personnel than people think.

I mean, Pittman, Pierce, this tight end from Penn State after the catch is a handful. Jonathan Taylor's a top five running back. So it's like they had the coach we liked. So I think Indianapolis is one of those where we're like, you know what, when you watch them play Denver, you didn't feel like Denver had a significantly better roster, you know, I mean, because Peyton is considered a better coach than Stuyken. and Bo Nix you think is better than Daniel Jones, but as Mark Schleras said,

Indy controlled the lines of scrimmage. So I think Indy, one of my opinions through two weeks is Indy is better than I gave him credit for. They have looked that way so far, yes. How about this one? So Daniel Jones is cooking, like you said. The backup is Anthony Richardson. There was chatter that his agents were like,

hey, can we get Anthony Richardson somewhere else? How about this? Washington's backup to Daniels is Marcus Marriota, two running quarterbacks. If you're Washington, why not try to take a flyer on Anthony Richardson, just try to steal him from the Colts? Hey, you guys aren't using him. We'll take Anthony Richardson for whatever you want, fourth or fifth round pick.

Oh, I wouldn't give up a fourth round pick for Anthony Richardson. You don't think he could fetch that? Marcus Mariotta is a great kid. I think that ship has sailed. I don't think, listen, ask yourself, look at what Shane Steichen has done to do. Daniel Jones, and Anthony Richardson was struggling to complete 55% of his throws. That's fair.

The counter, Colin, is that we, and again, the Colts, their offensive personnel, appears to be good. Anthony Richardson, they gave up on him. Well, that's the problem, though. Baker Mayfield, second, third, fourth chance. Oh, he's awesome. Sam Darnold, third chance. Oh, this is our guy.

I mean, look at Daniel Jones. He looks better than he ever looked with the Giants. Would you agree? Some of these quarterbacks, it just takes time. So if you're a value shopper with stocks, you buy low. Anthony Richardson's very low now. Can some smart OC, Cliff Kingsbury, fix him if you need him? I don't know if he's fixable.

Oh, I don't. That's harsh. He started like 20 games, maybe. But Daniel, if you go back, and I don't know what they are, go back and look at Daniel Jones. He won a playoff game. He did. In Minnesota.

New York, and they didn't have a very good roster. when I watched Daniel Jones yesterday against the Broncos pass rush he had a run game he had time to throw it felt like he was throwing on second and five I mean seriously it was like the Colts were in a perpetual second and five that it's hard to struggle I think Indies just got better personnel than we think and they came in and Indy came into this game banged up they did they were on defense after Patrick Sertan they attacked him I mean that Denver pass rush had I mean

really didn't do anything. So Daniel Jones was, remember his nickname was Vanilla Vic with the Giants because he was more of a runner. Now they're rebranding him as Indiana Jones. I don't know if you saw this during the broadcast. He's Indiana Jones. He's daring. And he's actually winning. He looks like a better thrower.

Let me adjust that. Better thrower now than he ever did with the Giants. I think he had like 15 touchdown passes or something crazy. All right. The Colts have a better O-line. Yeah. Then it starts with that. than a better old line than the Giants.

I think Andrew Thomas left tackle for the Giants is good. He is hurt all the time. And the backup is not good. Not sure if it's an NFL player. So, I mean, a lot of the cult success is they protect Daniel Jones. And he's got tremendous weapons. But I'll give Daniel Jones credit. He made a couple of throws up the left side, but you were like, oh, those are big boy throws.

But again, when you have confidence, when you have time, when it's second and five, When the defense, the linebackers have to be honest and there's a cushion. Makes a lot of quarterbacks look good. We'll see you tomorrow. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.

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