The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Julian Edelman stops by The Herd

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

Colin talks to former New England Patriots WR Julian Edelman about the Pats loss in the Super Bowl to the Seahawks, his thoughts on Sam Darnold, how he grades New England's season, and more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Julian Edelman is joining us. We figured we'd wrap up this week with a former Patriot great, all with New England, because it was a pretty rough loss. And it's funny, the Super Bowls you were in, it was a fascinating dynasty

because it was win-close-close, win games you were not favored, lose a game to Philadelphia where you didn't punt. I want to start with this. I, going into the Super Bowl, I said the only thing I know for sure New England will not run the football particularly well.

I don't think it's a good matchup for the O-line. That I felt. And I also said that means Drake May is going to throw 35 times or more. That's not great. He's one in seven. I was surprised that on their first drive, they did swing passes. I thought they should have used the tight ends more. I like Hunter Henry.

I didn't think it was one of Josh McDaniel's great game plans. Although I think whoever won Seattle or the Rams, was the better team and would have won the Super Bowl. When you looked at the game plan, what was your initial reaction to the play calling and the design? I initially thought that they never got comfortable, and they had to probably pivot from what they wanted to do. I mean, you look in the first half,

I think they had their best drive on the first drive, where they had eight plays, they got a few first downs. Second couple drives, I think they go three and out with negative runs. So they can never get, a rhythm. Like we never saw jumbos, big people on the field. We didn't see empties. We didn't see a no huddle. And those are kind of things that we used to do when we were struggling with the pass rush.

I ultimately think, you know, they just got out coached and outplayed. And Seattle, I mean, they were only rushing four and they were creating so much havoc that they believed that their guys were good enough to not even have to bring a blitz, even though they brought where they're a few times, which was a new look, and they could go out and win. And, you know, it was a remarkable job by that defense. Josh, I feel like he may have got knocked off that game plan, you know, and rightfully so. The young quarterback, Drake May hadn't been playing particularly well, seemed to be maybe a little banged up in that shoulder, seemed to be very uncomfortable all game, you know,

and you got to take this with a grain of salt. This team overachieved. This team had four wins last year. They come in and get, go what, 14 and 3, go to the Super Bowl, you know. NFL is not Disney movies. So it's a sad day in New England. What would you add? I feel like they need another tight end.

I think they got to throw some resources at the offensive line. When you, I think their defense is pretty good. Again, I've said I would consider going getting a max. Crosby off the edge. I like their interior delimement a lot, but I feel like they need another difference maker on the D line, like one more layer. Maybe they can get that in the draft. But is there, when you look at this team, going back to your Patriot games, it wasn't always the most talent. It was the talent in the right spots that you guys were always great at. What are the things, in your opinion, New England needs to address? I still think they're trying to figure that out

through the self-scout that they're going to do this complete off season. I mean, this is a young football team. Yeah. You know, you can never go wrong. You can never go wrong with offense alignment. I personally think Will Campbell got baptized, but you also got to remember he was out for a month and a half. His first game backs in the playoffs.

He's going against legendary defense aligns each week. And this guy's a rookie who's playing in college last year, undersized guy. And he gives me the comp of kind of like a Matt Light. you know, Matt Light was not the biggest guy, but he was one of the most productive linemen I ever played with the technician freak. And so I think he's going to get better with this technique as time goes on. He's a rookie.

You can never go wrong with linemen. They definitely could use a playmaker, another playmaker, but they also have a young group of receivers that played pretty well together. And, you know, I think that helps for the developmental of Drake May when you don't have this younger receiver. I think he'll be ready for, you know, a big time receiver. maybe this year, maybe the next year, because now he knows where to go

with the open ball. So I think you've got to get him protected. I think you maybe get him a playmaker. And then, you know, I agree. Maybe someone on the edge. Barmore and Williams are elite in the middle of the field. Yeah.

If you could get someone on the outside, that would be, that would change this defense to a whole other level because, I mean, they got guys on the back end, the two Cal Berkeley safeties played outrageous. You got Davis and, you know, Gonzo on the outside. They got playmakers at all levels. So if they could get a pass rush,

you could never have too many pass rushers at the edge. So, you know, they have $41 million this offseason to spend. You still got Drake on that young quarterback deal. You know, I anticipate they're going to be a better team next year. They may not have a better record, but I think they'll be a better team because, even though they lost this game in the Super Bowl, they gained so much human capital going through this experience of the playoffs.

They got to rattle off wins in Denver, which we could never do. A lot of people can't do. That's an incredible place to get a win. And even though it wasn't pretty, there's being great football players, good football players, through every experience, whether good or bad, they use those experiences and they put them on their tool belts they learn from those bad things and they put those good things on their belts so i think they're going to be in a good shape for

to be a good football team next year you know uh tom brady is the best quarterback that's ever played he never i i on all the super bowls i don't remember ever having a robust offensive first quarter he threw for under 200 yards early on and late in his career in the super bowl he had a pick six in the super bowl it's hard to play to play flawless because you're playing really good teams and really good coaches. People have looked at Darnold and said, well, you didn't have a turnover during the playoffs, but he wasn't spectacular. And my take his folks, to not have a turnover when you're an aggressive, athletic quarterback in the NFC, which was the better conference, that is hard. How do you view

Darnold? Now, it's easy to say, uh, the reclamation, he's great, but I want you to give me some nuance. How do you view Sam? You've seen the Jets years. You've seen Minnesota. You've seen Carolina. Where are you on Darnold? You know, he got the monkey up his back to me. In the two biggest games of his life, he played his best football. Statistically in the Super Bowl may not have been the best, but he didn't turn the ball over. And we all know those demons of Sam Darnold. He likes to throw that thing away. You know, he's been quoted, he sees ghosts. So, know it was unreal it's been really cool to watch his career transform his mental toughness being that good football player that takes from good and bad experience he's done that these last

four years with kyle shanahan kevin o'connell he's just this is this is what you and he's a likable guy you know he's a really cool likable guy and anytime you play your best games in the most important games, that's what you are. That's what you are. You know, in the NFC championship against MVP Stappard, three touchdowns, 3142 yards. You know, against the Patriots, really good defense.

Hey, we know we have them out manned on the defense side of the ball. Their offense ain't going to be getting any yards on us. Just just all you got to do is steer the shit, buddy. We don't need to do nothing crazy. And that's what he had to do. That's what that team's so great at doing. They played complimentary football. football, they're very similar to the Patriots where they're not trying to go out and put up accolades on offense and do this, statistics, this.

They're doing everything in their possible manner to win the game by one point. You know, they just have more explosive players where you have a guy like Jackson Smith and Jigba who could take something and turn it into 80 yards. And so they get those explosion plays. But, you know, it was, this has been, this is awesome. And this is why the game of football is awesome. This is why the NFL is undefeated. It's the best reality TV show. It's because you got guys like Sam Darnold who are on his fifth team

and he comes out and he wins a Super Bowl. It's an unbelievable story. And I'm just so happy for him. He's proved people wrong left and right. He proved me wrong. I bet against him. I thought he'd make at least one mistake. He didn't make him.

You know, he was damn close on that first play. It was almost a pick six when they owned. Marcus Jones almost undercut it, to have the resiliency, the calm, cool, collectedness, to make a couple of the big-time throws, when guys were in his face in the Super Bowl. I mean, he's a Super Bowl champion now.

Julian Edelman. He's got a podcast called Games with Names, new episodes every Tuesday. We wrapped a bow on it. It's good seeing you as always, buddy. I appreciate it. Always great to see you. Yeah.

You can't really overreact. I agree with Julian. I think the Patriots will be a better team and I'll win 10 games instead of 14 next year. I said, I just think the AFC had a down year and it's happened. Quarterback injuries. You pay all these quarterbacks big money. The rosters get thin.

I think New England's a playoff team next year. They feel more 11 and 6 than what I saw this year. But can't overreact. I think when you start drafting where they're going to start drafting now at the end of rounds, go get a tackle, put some money on the O line. I'd consider either drafting or spending for an edge rusher, but I think they're in a pretty great space. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific

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This is Help from a Hypocrat, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the Mike Coutura Podcast Network available on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. John Middlecough with the news. No, no, no, no. This is the herd line news. You know, speaking of NFL coaching, the Chargers hired Mike McDaniel to be their new offensive coordinator. Obviously, he spent the last four seasons in Miami. Yeah.

He was spotted last night with his new head coach, Jim. They sat together at the Laker game, courtside. What do you make of Mike McDaniel and will he get the most out of Justin Herbert in 2012? Well, I think it's going to be a different-looking team. It's going to be more pass-first. I think he muses far more motion than his predecessor. So I think the organization, they won't be quite as good without Jesse Minter. But I felt this year it felt like survival mode.

I mean, they went 11 and 6th. It's remarkable. It felt like survival mode the entire season. And I still would draft. I mean, we had Daniel Jeremiah on the other day. I would spend most of this draft. edge rusher and offensive line interior. So I think there's real clarity on what they need.

Once you get the quarterback and the coach right, you know, I think Mike McDaniel will elevate an offense that has felt hamstrung for several years, even when they had alt as a rookie. He wasn't quite what he is now. So I think they're going to feel different next year. I think they're going to feel more dynamic offensively and maybe a little less suffocating on defense.

You know, early on when he got to Miami, it was Tua, Tyree Kill, Waddle, the passing game. game. Over the course of the last year and a half, when Tua fell off a cliff, he was great at calling runs. Imagine if he can get the run game going with their young running back, take a little pressure off Herbert. But let's face it, it's all going to come down to playoff games. He's 0 and three so far in the playoffs. You know, the Chargers are going to be in the playoffs. That's where Jim Harbaugh is every year. He's going to be judged on that performance in early mid-January. As we get closer to the new league year, the Dolphins have a decision to make on, they won't

need to make and figure out what they're going to do with Tua. You know, speaking at a fan event, a fan event recently, their new GM, John Eric Sullivan was asked about Tua status. Here's what he had to say. I don't know what the future holds right now. And I told Tua that we're working through some things. What I can tell you is that we're going to infeious competition into that row, whether Tua is part of the room, whether he's not part of the room. Tua knows where we are. We've been very honestly, up front. We're getting close to a decision. And when we do, we'll let Tua know whether he's going to be part of this or not. You know, I mean, I don't have a problem. I really don't have a problem with Tua. Play it out for one more year. He's more than capable. If you want to draft somebody,

you know, a Kade Klubnick in the third or fourth round or whatever, I mean, roll the dice on that. But I think we all kind of look at Miami, a new GM, a new coach. They're safe for a year. You want to build a culture. Two is one of those guys, John. You can build a culture, if not around him, include him in it because he's a quality human being. But this idea that he has a market, I don't know what his market is, so you got to swallow it. And I'd rather have two at a quarterback and pay for it than be paying for it. He's somewhere else. I mean, I don't know. I just, I think you can draft a quarterback later, get a young guy in the building, because Tua does get hurt. But I don't think he has much of a market. Well, he has no market.

You would have to attach picks to get someone, especially when you factor in the money. You know, when you go back a couple years when Sean Payton got rid of Russell Wilson, part of that was the personalities. He didn't want Russell Wilson the building anymore. They wanted to separate, they wanted a divorce of the personality. Like you said, I mean, Tua, he's got along with Mike McDaniel. He got along with Nick Saban. Like he's taking hard coaching.

I do wonder, though, if you just want to pivot, eat the money, bottom out, and maybe next year, like they tried to do years ago with Flores, maybe have the number one overall pick and reset the franchise. Yeah. To college football, Colin, where a report indicates an internal Big Ten document has been exploring a potential 2014 playoff, offering a glimpse of what the model and bracket could look like.

Here's our mock-up based on last season's final ranking. Okay. Hmm. That's a lot of teams. Like Virginia needed another game. The upside to this. because there's some negatives you'll hear. There's eight buys there, Colin.

Eight buys? That's a little extreme. The good news is it would make the committee less crucial. Love that. It would also include more teams. I mean, there's 135 Division I. This only includes a small percentage, right? 24 teams.

People say, well, it would make the regular season less viable. John, this is interesting, because I kind of monitored, self-monitored over the last two years with the playoffs, because fans pushed back and said, you know, I won't care as much about the regular season. So I kind of monitored my consumption, and I found myself watching as much during the regular season and much more in the postseason. I stopped watching a lot of these bowl games. So I watched all the big, I watched all the games in the tournament, except one, one of the early ones with Tulane.

I watched all the tournament games, and I found myself watching the same number of games on Saturday that I did. and it includes more people. You know, the old way in college football, by the second week of October, 70% of the sport is not going to be playing for the championship. So, you know, it sounds like you said that sort of here. 24 sounds outrageous, and it's probably more than today I love. But the best part about last year, when I watched Miami and Indiana, John, with the NIL transfer portal in playoffs,

It felt like the most NFL-ish college football championship I'd watched, and I thought it was a remarkable game. You know, Dan Lannning mentioned this at the end of last season. Listen, if you want to go 24 teams, but approach it like the NFL. When the NFL season ends, the regular season, the playoffs are the following week. Dan was like, let's cut out, we can go more games. But start playing the moment, conference championship games that Saturday. the following weekend, first round of the playoffs. And if you got 24 teams, you can string that out to early mid-January.

John, one of the things I think that this would eventually do, it would get rid of the conference championship games, which I think now are unnecessary. So again, this would, I think you'd get rid of that. Do we really need to see, you know, Bama plays Texas, and they've already played, here's a second time, they could play a third time in the playoff. Let's just, here's everything we agree on.

The committee has too much power. None of us like that. We don't like that. I think most people also agree, I don't need conference championships. You're going to play these teams in the playoffs. Make the games mean something. There's arguments on both sides.

24 is kind of jarring because I was kind of in a 16 team, 14, 16 team felt perfect to me. But when you watch people labor over the committee and their rulings and their selections, it's like, I don't want to talk about committees. I'm not interested in that being a topic annually for days on end. Well, if they don't go to 24 teams, they go more like a 16-18, I think you could pivot and you got to, listen, Adam Silver takes a lot of crap. But the play-in games, what if conference championship weekend turns into more the SEC this year? So instead of Bama, Georgia, it's Texas Vandy, the winner gets into the playoffs.

That is interesting. Yeah, you know, the Big Ten would be FC versus Iowa. Whatever the matchup turns out to be, you win that game. Because we got pretty lucky with the Ohio State Indiana game. That felt like an NFL game. But you could start to feel like that's going to be a rare occurrence. So do a play-in-game situation for the major four conferences. Imagine if Utah play BYU.

Winner gets in. I mean, we're all watching that thing. Instead, it's BYU against Tech. Tech doesn't have much to play for them and they still kill them. It's not as intriguing. So that's where I think we end up. Yeah. Good call.

And John Middletkoff joining us today. I appreciate that in a Friday. J. Mack returns next week. John Middlough with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping back. The Hurd-Lie News. Yeah, listen, if you like college football and I do,

I watched the same amount last year and the year before that I did without the playoff. I mean, Saturdays are college football. I go to games. I like watching games. I mean, I'm a USC homer, right? I'm going to watch all the games. If they're on TV,

I'm watching the games. So nothing changed. I'm watching all the big games. I'm watching USC games. I like watching Notre Dame games. Michigan games. I'm watching the same number of games. It's not changing my consumption.

And December was way better than watching, you know, the Sun Bowl is a big game. So I'm kind of for it. But one of the things that's tedious is talking about the committee. When's the last time you talked about a committee in any walk of life and thought that was a day well spent? I'm over committee discussions. Like, I'm just done with that stuff. Get them out of it. And if you extend the teams, nobody's arguing about 24 and 25,

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We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to us. First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. We could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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To get to school, I had to go down Robert Lee Boulevard. Get to the grocery store. I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes, and Rebel Spirit Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit.

How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Giamanka seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree.

At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy. But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like? No. I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets.

But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double life. That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jared Adano.

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And on my new podcast, hope from a hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your... phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary.

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you get your podcasts. Pretty remarkable night. Last night, Lakers beat the Dallas Mavericks, LeBron oldest player to have a triple double. And, you know, I said before is I kind of like my star athletes to end clean tight careers. I don't want to, you know, I don't want to see, it was a Patrick Ewing or somebody wearing a Raptors jersey or something.

You know, I don't love that. Ethan Strauss earlier today on, you know, what, what, LeBron, how he wraps up the career. I'm not saying LeBron's motivated by money. He clearly has a ton of money, but it has gotten to this point column where, where you're walking away from, you know, $60, $70 million a year. That's not nothing. I'd expect him to at least do another year,

get the farewell tour. LeBron likes attention. That's my expectation. I think it would be better and cleaner of being in it now, like you said, but I think we're getting at least one more season. Yeah. It was Patrick Ewing was in an Orlando magic jersey

and it was it a Keem in a Raptors jersey? Yeah, I don't like that. But, you know, I, I, I, do think it points to a real truth going on in the NBA is, you know, when they did that CBA, it created parity. It also created a lot of really, really rich guys at the top. And LeBron is still, you know, in spurts, he's really, really good. I went and watched him play in Chicago, and the first 12 minutes of the game, he's totally

dominant. Best player on the floor. Again, it was the Bulls, so I think may be worse now. I was talking earlier, I said, but I don't view LeBron. If you count everything, stamina, free throw, shooting offense, and defense. And I'll use the two and a half minutes to go tie game, game seven of the finals, who do you want, or a big playoff game, top 10? And when I listed the top 10 players, and I never trusted LeBron a ton at the free throw line,

but he now doesn't have that late game stamina, and he's not a defensive, you know, a stalwart like he used to be. I would say Yokic, best player in the world, SGA, best clock shooter in the league, Wembe best defensive player, ants good on both ends. Kauai when he's healthy remains get a bucket, get a stop with, I mean, all time greats. Steph remains incredibly accurate shooting three-point shots late in games. Cade Cunningham has become more aggressive over the last couple of years. He is a tremendous franchise player.

Now, you say to yourself, Colin, why is Lucas so low? And my take is, I don't trust his stamina. I've seen it die in playoff games. I don't buy that he's in this great shape. And frankly, he is a below average defensive player. So I can get a bucket from him. Cade Cunningham could give me a stop. Ant's going to give me a stop.

Kauai. Even Durant's a willing defender. Luke is not. I would say nine, Kevin Durant, and 10, Jalen Brunson. Again, I went back and forth on Jail. Brunson and LeBron. I like Jalen at the free throw line better than LeBron. And because he's a younger athlete, probably has a little more stamina, although he's very ball-centric. He can get worn down to. I think Luke is a defensive liability. Brunson was voted clutch player of the year in the

NBA last year. I may have him low. But I'm not saying LeBron's not a top 12, 13, 14, 15 player, but like late game situations, we always knew he wasn't a great free throw shooter, but he was dominant offensively, beat anybody he wanted to the rim, his three-point shooting. He's a bit streaky, but above average. And his stamina, it was relentless until about last year, year before. Now it's pretty noticeable. He has spurts. The most interesting comment of the day, which I disagreed with from Ethan Strauss,

I said, okay, you know, you know I love Sam Darnold. here was Ethan Strauss's take on Sam Darnold hoisting a Labardi trophy. I think Sam Darnold's average, and I think that's okay. I think the lesson with Sam Darnold is perhaps we might even make too big a deal of the surrounding weapons quarterbacks have on offense and not a big enough deal about all the other help

that allows them to win. I think we saw it this Super Bowl, and I think we saw it last Super Bowl with Jalen Hertz, when we were trying to make him out to be somebody that he wasn't. He was fine, and that's the lesson in the NFL. You can win with a quarterback who's fine. Okay, John, let me ask you a former NFL scout. Do you view Donald as fine?

I view him as slightly better and fine, but there's a clear gap between him. I mean, he had 20 turnovers this year at one point. Now, you know, relatively new offense he had played in it before, but is he moams when he's on, Alan, the Lamont? Mar we've seen win MVP's, Borough. But I think, you know, Herbert has carried his team. When you play on a great team, you know, Purdy fell under this.

You just, the game manager gets such a negative connotation. A lot of guys have managed the game to win, you know, and Super Bowl Trophy. So you had to be holding your breath a little bit, though. Was it the first or second pass of the game? Oh, I was. When it looked like he almost threw a pick six and the guy was going to jump on it. Like, if, listen, I'm from the Pacific Northwest,

but I have, I mean, I was in the Northeast and Patriot country for years, so I really, really respect Robert Kraft and the organization. My take was if Sam doesn't win, I just don't want him to have two and three and four turnovers. Like if he loses, he loses. And they were jumping routes like crazy. Because I think, honestly, John, I think they knew they weren't going to move the ball much. I think those Braebel and Josh knew we're not going to have a ton of success.

What we have to do is for Sam. to speed up his game. He has a history of making mistakes and getting frenetic and kind of getting into weird zones where he tries to be a little bit of a hero. He did that in college sometimes. He did that certainly Jets, Carolina. So I think they were jumping routes.

I think they wanted to get into Darnold's head, force him into a mistake. And, you know, it's a game of inches. That first one's picked. You know, it could have, I mean, I think Seattle still over time wins, but it could change the play calling and the dynamics of the game.

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