The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Lane Kiffin interest in going back to the NFL, Texas A&M being a contender, Tomorrow's Headlines Today, Kayce Smith

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

Kayce Smith of Barstool Sports joins the show in studio for a deep dive into major college football storylines. They discuss: Lane Kiffin’s interest in the New York Giants head-coaching job Why... Texas A&M looks like a legitimate SEC contender this season Tomorrow's Headlines Today with Jason McIntyreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:57 Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. And with that, we're lucky. Years ago, Portnoy, when he was starting Barstool, they have emerged as a big college football network. But the reason they became that is they went out and hired Casey Smith, who hosts their show with Portnoy, Big Cat, and Brandon Walker. And those guys are, that sounds like a mixer that you get in trouble with.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Big personalities. So you grew up in Dallas, and then you go to Texas A&M like myself, we didn't have sports fans in the family. You became this star for Barstool, and we met a few weeks ago at the USC Illinois game. I don't buy Texas A&M, not that I don't buy them, they're obviously good, I like their coach, I know. I feel like they keep beating teams that have just fired their coach or they're going to. I love Bama this year, and it's a little confirmation bias because I'm such a Kalen-de-Bore fan. sell me in a minute on A&M. They're athletic quarterback.
Starting point is 00:04:03 They got a lot of big dudes. They have an NIL. Why do I need to buy them? Well, first of all, you talk about bias. I mean, I'm wearing maroon and white kicks today. Colin, I knew what you were going to come with. No, and at the end of the day, the only teams they can play are the teams that are on their schedule. And I hear you about the coaches getting fired.
Starting point is 00:04:17 A&M is also getting those coaches fired. The way that A&M is playing in all three phases of the game, Marcel Reed, in the pocket, just everything from an X's and O standpoint is there. The bigger thing for me is that this team is playing for Mike El. I've ever seen them play for a coach in my entire life. He buys into the culture. Tommy Moffat, the Strength and Conditioning Coordinator, came from LSU. He's got this team playing tough, and they just don't look like the A&M 8 and 4s
Starting point is 00:04:40 that we've made fun of forever. My whole life. Yes, I mean, and I have to defend that every year, and then every November I start getting scared. I'm like, oh, is this going to happen again? This team is playing differently, and just when you look at the talent across the board, you look at the money, the NIL, and then you get a guy like Mike Elko and his staff in there. Like, this team is for real.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And I understand where you're coming from Alabama. They're not the same team that lost a Florida State, but they still lost a Florida State. Anand plays Notre Dame, gets that non-conference win. So you have to believe in them. They're 9-0 in the middle of November. I like that. I'm a huge Bama fan.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I don't think Ty Simpson's quite as people project. I think he's a good kid. He sat for three years, was a backup, didn't do much. The world's changed. NIL, Texas has the most money. Texas A&N. has the second most money in the conference. That's the reality,
Starting point is 00:05:27 is that a lot of these SEC schools were in small towns where a car dealers like the rich guy. Well, at Ohio State or Michigan, it's Venture Capital guys or Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It's a different ball game. So Bama is not what they were with Saban. It's not Cailin DeBore's fault. I think they're underserved because of that loss to Florida State and everybody just labeled them
Starting point is 00:05:46 because they got dog. They got dragged. Everyone said they were dead. I think in the last month, your thoughts on Bama. So I agree with you. The Ty Simpson, he has looked unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:05:56 They do look. they do look a little bit one-dimensional because Alabama, they don't run it. And you look at the successful Alabama teams, you had guys that could always run the ball. And you look at all of their rushing stats right now. It's all at the bottom of the SEC. That's just not the way Alabama wins games. And I do think under Coach Sabin, they had a little bit more of a toughness. I agree with you that it's not Coach DeBore's fault. But there's something about these Alabama teams under Kalin-de-Bore that just don't look like they are as tough and as physical. Well, they went to Oklahoma and got pushed around. And that never happened with Nick Sabin. And that, to me,
Starting point is 00:06:26 is a little bit alarming. Now, when you look at what Ty Simpson and this offense has done, especially in the passing attack, you have to believe in them, and you know they're going to have guys on defense. But when they're going up against teams with really good front sevens, and you know that they're going to throw the ball, what are they going to be able to do? Because they can't run the ball right now. So you never ask anybody their age. You're obviously very young, and young people talk to young people. Young people don't talk to people like me. So I want to bring up, they just... I'm not that young, and I'm talking to you right now. My producers ignore me at every request.
Starting point is 00:06:56 So Lane Kiffin is kind of cool, and he's got an identity. A smart coach told me recently, offensive high school players will follow coaches. Defensive guys want to go to the big schools. They're going to go to your Texases and your Ohio states and your Bamas. So I think Nick has, there's a Pied Piper feeling in college. I think he'd be great in the pros. What are the people that you know that are young and players and coaches?
Starting point is 00:07:22 is what do they tell you on Kiffin? You have a heartbeat of the SEC. Is he considering pro football? I think you have to think he's considering all options at this point, but I think that he connects so well with these young players, and you see his connection with Jackson Dart, and he's cool. And he's the best at social media trolling,
Starting point is 00:07:39 and these guys love that. And you know that anything that comes out of his mouth, whether it's in the media or it's on social media, is going to get clicks. And I think that really fits in recruiting. And you look at all the jobs that are open, and he's going to coach five teams next year, it seems like he's just going to be coaching everywhere. But right now, what he's building at Ole Miss, he's making Ole Miss a destination that, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:58 10, 15 years ago, these kids wouldn't have necessarily wanted to go. And he seems like he connects to that level. So it would be dumb to sit and say he's not considering the NFL, especially the Giants with Jackson Dart there. But I think he's a college coach. I think he fits the culture and he's young and he's cool and he's happy there. He's got young kids. If I was him, I would stay in college, but, you know, that's above my pay grade. I think it's a really good point.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And I think fit in life matters. And I think he's just snarky enough that he would offend an owner or a GM. Yeah, he's just inappropriate enough on social media, like you guys are a lot. That's okay. I work for a company that's always inappropriate. That's what we do. So tomorrow you're at Wrigley. It's Michigan and it's Northwestern.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I think Underwood's unbelievable. I think he's just an unbelievable town. I think Marsh is one of the receivers I like. What do you make, you know, Dave loves his Michigan. Do you think deep down in his heart, he thinks this hardball replacement's the guy? Because, you know, when you hire the guy on the staff, it goes side. You know, I understand why you do it. Players like him.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Right. There's loyalty to the brand. Where are you with Michigan? What does Dave say privately about Michigan? Well, Dave is as authentic as you can get. You know that you've been around him. He believes truly that Michigan's going to be to Ohio State this year, and he's going to believe it, even if he doesn't believe it. He's going to say it. I think that one thing with this team, they're all so young. You know, you talk about just the way that they had the turnover. And it wasn't just losing coach Harbaugh. It was just a lot of guys leaving. So the fact that they're still even in the mix, they're still, you know, in the lower level conversation of being able to get in the playoff. They would have to be Ohio State on Thanksgiving, obviously. But I think that this is a great spot for Michigan to be in. And I see where the NIL money, and that's where Dave really loves to get involved, right? Because, you know, he's got the big money coming in. But, I mean, if you're a Michigan fan right now, you shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:09:48 thinking poorly of this team, they're young kids, and Bryce looks great. Yeah, no, he's a pretty phenomenal guy. So when you grow up in Texas, and now you live in New York, and you hang out in Chicago and all this stuff, how do you view, everybody said the PAC 12 going to the Big Ten, they won't be able to handle the weather. My take was they'll bring all the quarterbacks. I mean, even Tom Brady played at Michigan.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He's from California. Andrew Luck, Aaron Rogers. The quality of quarterback in the Big Ten now, Jayden Mayava, Dante Moore, even that Nico E. Maliava's like, he's got the skills. So I think the West Coast teams have brought kind of a smarter, more sophisticated quarterback-driven offense. But how does somebody like you that grows up in Texas and Big Ten country, how do you view SC? Do you see him as soft? How do you view that old SC Lincoln Riley thing?
Starting point is 00:10:43 So I love Lincoln Riley. I liked him when he was at Oklahoma. So I thought it was a great hire. And they actually used to make fun of me at Barcelona. They were like, do you have like a crush on him or something? Why are you always so high? I'm like, because he's an offensive mind, but he just needs to find somebody to help him with this defense and he's going to get this team right. I've always thought with USC and UCLA and Oregon, it's like they're kind of like the sexy school,
Starting point is 00:11:03 but they're not going to be able to handle it in the SEC or the Big Ten week in a week out. We're seeing that's not necessarily true. We saw what Oregon did last year. We saw what Dan Lannning is built. You're seeing, you know, USC is very clearly in the hunt this year. We're very good at home. USC is good at home. And I just truly believe that, you know, you see these different fits.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I didn't like that the PAC 12 fell apart because right before it fell apart, you had a million quarterbacks in that league. It was probably the best Pac 12 season in the history of the Pac 12. The last year they had seven good teams. And we're like having a funeral for it. It was unbelievable. And so to look at that and I think the bigger thing was not even necessarily the weather, it's the travel. I mean, West Coast teams having go all the way, the East Coast and back and forth, like it takes away the regionality of college football, which I grew up loving. And you lose two or three hours.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Yes, of course. And as you get older, and I mean, I know you said I'm young. I'm not that young. Time really does matter when it comes to that. And these guys are so used to rigid schedules. But I do like seeing the quarterback play because the Big Ten used to be. It's like you're going to run the rock. You know, you're going to have these great big offensive linemen,
Starting point is 00:11:57 and it's going to be, you know, a nine to six game. Now you're seeing guys like Dante Moore, and you're seeing just these teams have these offenses that come from the Pack 12, and that's exciting. Now, if they played, you know, week in and week out every single year, it'll start to even out for sure. Yeah. The, so Barstool is interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So I don't really know. I've met Big Cat and Brandon, you and Portnoy, I've met him. It's a, it's a wild, a lot of juice, a lot of energy. And you've really, you feel like part of the team. But it is, you know, at first started, it was like a, it was a boys club. It was a frat. And it was. I mean, that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And then you walked in, you were, I remember seeing you in Boston. And then you moved to Barstool. What was your first week at Barstool? Oh my God, it was so crazy because I was used to network TV doing three hours of network TV like, you know, every single night. And then I walk in and it was like right before March Madness and they're all gambling. And like I was just like what what's going on? We don't have production meetings. We don't have like I don't have a B block.
Starting point is 00:12:55 What are we talking about? But it was really cool because I grew up with, you know, a lot of guy friends loving college football. And it was, you know, you get to watch TV and you talk about the X's and O's and you hear the ins and outs of what's going on. And then you go hang out with your friends and you're sitting down for the lack of better terms on a barstle talking. about these games. And that's what that's like. And that's what Dave is really built well, is it's what she would talk about your friends with watching a game. But to be the only woman there doing it, and then we have other women in content that are phenomenal. But you were like their first, you were a big rock star for them.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Well, thank you. Especially in sports. Like, you know, we've had a pop culture, chicks in the office was great. But it's, it's a different world, but I love it. And I love that we've now partnered with you guys because I get both, right? You get a little bit of TV and then. Yeah. A little bit of X's and O's and like we have to be professional. And then we get to go yell at each other and tell each other that we're stupid. So, you know, it's a great, it's a great mix. But, no, I love working there, and Dave's as authentic as they get. So I'm lucky.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Listen, this is a pain in the butt for your schedule. So I appreciate you doing this. Please, I'm honored. I'd be here anytime you want. Okay. Well, it's just, God, it's, I tried by pulling teeth, getting these guys to show up Monday through Friday. They're just throwing you guys under the bus. They deserve it.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Casey Smith, congrats in your success. I'd love to have you on again. I'd love to. Bucketlist. Thanks, Colin. All right. We'll take a break. This is the herd.
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Starting point is 00:20:16 Dave Wants, that was absolutely hysterical today as well. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's go to that big Fox matchup, Ram, Seahawks. Should be a good one. Matt Stafford firmly in the MVP race.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Pretty much against Drake May, a couple other guys. I think Josh Allen's still there, but we'll see. This weekend, the Seahawks defense is feisty, Colin. They're coming to SoFi. Look at him to make a statement. I know they bottled up some bad quarterbacks. Here's Mike McDonald talking about just how good Stafford and the Rams offense has been. He's playing great football.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Decisive, they're putting them in great situations, diagnosing defense at a really high level, handling the protections at a high level. They're really explosive right now in their past game, and then they're converting in a lot of those conversion downs, too, which keeps drives extended. Yeah, he's playing great football. Yeah, two of the three or four best rosters in the sport.
Starting point is 00:21:17 You got two MVP quarterbacks. Homefield's not a thing at SoFi in this space. A lot of Seahawk fans there. You sure? Seahawks fans travel that well to L.A.? I guess I'd want to get out of rainy Seattle to come down. Oh, to rainy Los Angeles. Got it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:34 This is going to be fascinating. I don't know how much three-tide-end stuff the Rams are going to do. You know Seattle will be ready for it. I mean, they've used it three weeks in a row. Yeah. I just worry about this, you know, Devante Adams, Puka. I know Seattle has good corners, but there's no cheating on the run game with those two. You can't cheat up in the box.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Last week you could do that, right? Hey, let's load up on Trey McBride. They don't have much else. And they're swarming after Brissette. You go attack Stafford. He's one of the best quarterbacks against the Blitz in the league, Colin. You really like Seattle here, huh? I do.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Special teams edge. Yeah, the Rams kicking situation has been mid as the kick. I think it's a close game, special teams edge. Both teams run the ball. Seattle has not been generating the sacks in the last couple of weeks they did earlier. Keep your eye on that. Who do you trust more? Two minutes with the ball tie game.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Matt Stafford or your boy? Sam Dar. Both. Oh, stop it. You are sitting on the fence so much today. This is embarrassing. Pick a side, man. Next up, oh, let's go to a topic near and dear to your heart.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And that is Barack Purdy. he's back, Colin. Kyle Shanahan talked to the media yesterday, said he's in. Brock Purdy then spoke to the media. I wonder, is he rushing back because of Mac Jones? Here he is. Brock Purdy talking about week 11. I feel really good.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Feel healthy and excited to be back and ready to go and lead the guys. So I'm really excited about this week. It's been a good week so far. And kind of a couple more days, obviously. Got to finish out strong this week, but it feel really good. For me, it's been how do I feel physically? It has nothing to do with. I need to get back out there for the political side of things.
Starting point is 00:23:17 It's been all about how do I feel really good to go out and lead when I do get back. Interesting for him to reference the political side of things. What do you think that means? Well, Mack Jones played very well. I support that message. Is there a controversy here? Let's say Brock Purdy loses to Arizona. Is there a developing situation?
Starting point is 00:23:42 That's a heck of a topic on Monday. I don't think it leads Broncos beating the Chiefs. Quickly, did you see, how about this from the staff? Ricky Pearsall, who has missed more time with this knee injury than when he got shot last year. Okay? He's on track to maybe return this week. We still don't know where Brandon Ayuk is. It's funny, when he wanted his contract, he was all over social media.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Now he's hurt. I'm not hearing anything for Brandon Ayu. I don't know, man. I'm feeling, I don't want to... Pearson was playing very well before he got hurt. He was playing really well. I didn't love it as a pick late first rounds. No man's land for GMs.
Starting point is 00:24:17 He's played well. He's looked really good. If you have looked at the Arizona injury report, it is getting ugly. Brutal. Johnson doesn't look like he's going to go again. They looked like there was a lot of quit last week in that team in Seattle when they got jumped on early. I know they're going home. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:24:34 We'll see. I think the Niners are probably the side here. Have anything for you? No, no, they are to me. I do worry because when you get humiliated like that, you usually come back the next week, but they're missing Connor. They're missing Harrison. Harrison, yeah, they need him. Yeah, no, he's played better of late.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Sweat, missed practice yesterday. We'll see. They need him back. He's their best edge rusher. All right, final story, Colin, let's go to Major League Baseball. They announced the MVP's weirdly. I don't know why they take so long. The season's been over for weeks.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Shohei Otani wins it in the NL and Aaron Judge in the AL. No surprise at all. Otani, fourth career. MVP in a fourth unanimous one in the last five years. Judge goes back to back like Michael Jordan 96-97 winning MVP awards. And Cal Raleigh, he nearly won the MVP, but it was Aaron Judge. Yeah, Aaron Judge is a great player. Otani is a unicorn historically.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Wait, wait, wait, Judge is more than a great player. I mean, come on, let's put some right. He's a Hall of Fame lock. Yeah, yeah. Otani, though, is not just a pitcher. He's an elite pitcher. And an elite base eater. And an elite power hitter.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And he can hit for average. Otani's just different than everybody else. He's built different, as the kids say. So here's a fun fact on Aaron Judge, 13th player in MLB history to win three MVP's, joining Yogi Berra, Jolton Joe DiMaggio and Mickey Mantle as the only Yankees to do it. Boy, MLB loves its history, huh?
Starting point is 00:26:08 I mean, those are some big-time names that Judge just joined. Look, I've got to the highlights of Aaron Judge. Yeah, what a great player. And the good guy. And a good guy. You got to balance out your hate toward the Yankees every postseason. But I would take the World Series titles. How many, Jeter's got, what, four or five of those?
Starting point is 00:26:26 I'd take those. MVP's are great. I want titles. Obvious, yes. Those are all tilting West Coast now these days. The best coast, as they say. Yeah, some say that. J. Mack with the news.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Well, that's the news And thanks for stopping by The Hurd Lye News Okay, J-MAC's got his picks coming up One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day Seven days a week within the IHeart radio app Search Herd to listen live
Starting point is 00:26:52 Or on demand whenever you'd like Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers And guess what? We have some big news What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas, we invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 00:27:07 First people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. We could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:27:45 But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what.
Starting point is 00:28:06 He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
Starting point is 00:28:27 He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers
Starting point is 00:28:43 why he got the ball, like, after you go through a training camp with that, I said, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva,
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Starting point is 00:30:19 From My Heart Podcasts, Saigon. Please allow me to introduce Joseph Sherman. You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? I should stop talking so much. I like hearing you talk. One city, a divided country, and the war that tore America apart. This is for Vietnam. I've taken a hit from Japanese ground fire.
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Starting point is 00:31:24 You shouldn't have to share one with anybody. Mm-hmm. From navigating friendships and healing to setting boundaries and prioritizing your mental health. These are real honest conversations. We don't always get to. to have out loud. Totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them? Absolutely not. During one meal, I'm standing. I'm standing and handing my children food. Because healing, empowerment, and resilience aren't just
Starting point is 00:31:53 ideas, their practices. And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I want to thank Casey Smith and Barcel Sports and Dave Wanstatt told great stories. Lucky to happen today on a Friday. Both in studio, by the way. How about that? Look in studio.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Yes. It'd be nice if J-Mack made it in studio appearance. I guess he's busy getting that, you know, that volleyball swole on. All right. Listen, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is right around the corner. So this is next week is the last like pre- Thanksgiving week. And this is kind of the time where football feels different.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Run games take over. Weather gets a little choppy. So football gets very interesting. We call it tomorrow's headlines today. J-Max got five big ones. Commanders and the Dolphins. Isn't that one overseas or something? Yeah, you know, I think I took debate, Colin.
Starting point is 00:32:55 This season, I've been doing a lot of early week betting, and it hasn't been profitable until lately, because you start to see what happened last week with the dolphins, and you see what happened with Washington, and it feels like a slam dunk. The headline for Commanders Dolphins from Madrid will be Tua Tapas Viloa. Madrid menu features bite-sized starters. Give me the dolphins here.
Starting point is 00:33:16 My biggest bet of the week. I'm ready to get my teeth kicked in. But, Colin, one of the cool things, you know, I talk about Chad GPD sometimes. I'm telling you, you can learn quickly about the Dan Quinn's schemes. Historically, he has struggled slowing down the Miami Dolphins and McDaniel's offenses. What he plays the single high safety, and the problem in Washington, Colin, they're very slow at linebacker
Starting point is 00:33:38 because as you've noted, they're an old team. What does McDaniels do? McDaniels put stress on the edges with the speed and the motion, and I'm telling you, like, this is lining up for a big Devin A-chan game.
Starting point is 00:33:50 He's having quietly a monster season. He is, he is. If you try to match up Bobby Wagner with him on these screen passes, I mean, Wagner's had a great career, but he's like 35 years old, and you saw Detroit speed just mess up Washington last week,
Starting point is 00:34:02 week. Also, pain, the best defensive player Washington has, suspended for throwing that punch in the Lions game, Colin? I see nothing here for Washington that improves, and I alluded to it earlier. Both these teams go on their by week after Spain. If you're Washington, and you know the season's cooked, you got smashed four games in a row. Do you basically have huge plans in Europe this week and you just stay over there? There's no reason to rush back. The Miami fans want to come back to South Beach. I like the dolphins here. Big. All right. Tomorrow's headlines today. Florida team, the Buccaneers and Baker go to Buffalo. Yeah, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Tampa was so good for the first half of the season. They've slowed down a lot. What is happening? The headline for Bill's Tampa Bay will be Captain Cook. R.B. Waves Bun voyage to Buck's defense. This is a, as you alluded to earlier, big running weekend. Horrible weather.
Starting point is 00:34:56 They're calling 30 to 40 mile an hour gusts of wind plus rain and snow. That leads to heavy James Cook action. And again, this is a Tampa defense. I didn't see them slowing Trayvon Henderson last week. Did you? I mean, Henderson had a monster game. Tampa really struggled slowing down Drake May in the big plays. Who does big plays better than Josh Allen Cook?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Now, no Dalton first aid. That's his new nickname, Dalton Kincaid. He's hurt again. So I do worry if they have to throw. But in this wind, I don't anticipate it. I think Josh Allen runs a lot. And I think one of the craziest stats I've seen this week, Colin. Baker Mayfield, last three games, has zero rushes for zero yards.
Starting point is 00:35:36 That is absolutely puzzling, given his legs have been a huge weapon for Tampa earlier the season. You've got to wonder how the oblique injury is. Chris Godwin ruled out. Bucky Irving ruled out again. Tampa's in some trouble here. I don't know if Atlanta can gain ground or Carolina, but I do think Tampa takes one on the chin here. Tomorrow's headlines today.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Big one. Chiefs at the Broncos. So, you know, the guys on staff to give you a peek behind the curtain, they ask for the picks. And I'm struggling a bit this week. And I'm like, oh, you know, I have a brand in the NFL. And that's going against a certain team. The headline for Broncos Chiefs will be there's Boeuse crying. Chiefs Mahomesick for Arrowhead.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I'm on an island here, Colin. Give me the Denver Broncos straight up, taken down Andy Reed. And the Chiefs, how about this? Andy Reid, 22 and 4 off a buy, 6 and 1 with Mahomes. Everybody's citing all the Andy Reid rest stats and how great Mahomes is, how he owns this division. Colin, I'm throwing it all out the window. This is not last year's Chief's team. Last year, as you said, 11 and 0 and 1 score games. You know who's dominating one score games this year? Bo Nicks in Denver. Now, I know they've had slow starts. And if you watch them last Thursday against the Raiders, there's no way you can bet them this week.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Well, I watched it, and I'm saying that's an aberration. I look at some of these things. Bo Nix last year. First meeting with Spags and Reed, 22 of 30, 215 yards, two touchdowns in Arrowhead. Remember that game? They had a lead and ended up blowing it. How about the Chiefs, Andy Reed, and Mahomes, for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:37:20 they're struggling against pressure. Remember, Mahomes was three for 16 under pressure against Buffalo. And that's with Rice and Worthy. I don't want to hear any excuses. What does Denver do, Colin? number seven in Blitz percentage, top three in pressures. They're going to get after Mahomes. Can he make the place?
Starting point is 00:37:37 I know we love Mahomes. He's a Hall of Famer, all that. But I just want to know this year, why is Patrick Mahomes struggling under pressure? I haven't heard the media talking about it because they love them. But why is it not there? What's going on? Well, I don't think they have a consistent run game. Sometimes they're a little behind the sticks.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I feel like they're in more third and sixes, not third. and twos, and I think it's harder to throw. And I think it's a convergence of things. With no run game always make, I don't care who the quarterback is. They'd be just everybody, you know, Jared Goff, Seattle, they're so good on the road. Why? Because Sam Darnel has a run game.
Starting point is 00:38:14 When you go on the road, run games and defense travels, the passing game and the protection doesn't always travel. This is expected to be the first game back for the Ohio State left tackle. Josh Simmons. Simmons. He's expected to play, you know, returning from that weird absence. and they struggled without him protecting against the Jags and also against Buffalo. Colin, we'll see what he's made for.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Made up, you know, Denver's pass rush is kind of nasty. Tomorrow's headlines today. Listen, it's a good one. One of the many good games this weekend, Detroit Lions at Philly. Yeah, you know, your guy, Dan Campbell, I feel like you have a bit of a man crush on Dan Campbell. You're now Midwestern. He is like Mr. Midwest. The headline for Lions Philadelphia will be, this is how we do it.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Eagles built for the big dance, Colin, I'm all over the Eagles here. The Sam Laporta news that you revealed, it's kind of shocking. I didn't know this. He's not practicing again today, according to Dan Campbell. That is a massive loss. You know, nobody knows what they're getting with Penae Soule. I don't know, man. I know that the book on golf used to be, take him outdoors.
Starting point is 00:39:19 He's not as great as he is indoors, right? Up the middle pressure. Jalen Carter, one of the best defensive tackles in the league. A lot of stuff lines up here for the Eagles. to push around the lions in the trenches. I do wonder, though, prime time game Monday, that was a big one against the Packers. And now you've got to turn around and play another primetime game this Sunday night
Starting point is 00:39:39 against a good Lions team. Lions, of course, went East Coast, then go back to the Midwest. Now back to the East Coast after the Washington game. I don't know, Colin. I like the Eagles here. Not a lot because their offense is just kind of in the slop. Terri-on Arnold looks like he's going to miss. Their safety, Kirby Joseph is go either way.
Starting point is 00:39:57 this could be, as long as they don't force feed A.J. Brown, I think they're fine. But get him the ball, right? Would you agree? Devante Smith is good. Goddard's good. A.J. Brown's a game changer. Finally, tomorrow's headlines today. Cowboys at the Raiders. I'm surprised you picked this game. I didn't have any interest in this one. Why? I mean, there aren't many layups on the board this late in the season, right? Vegas, you know, the margins are thin, betting NFL's hard. I don't see how this one's even close. The headline for Raiders, Cowboys, Monday. will be. Vegas strict poker, naked bootlegs, fleece the Raiders. I just, I mean, why would anybody back the Raiders in any capacity at all? I mean, Gino Smith feels like a dead man walking. I know they, you know, had the max effort against Denver to get the cover, but they couldn't do anything in that game. The scripted drive, and then it was literally nothing the rest of the way. Colin, this team has messed around with like the Tennessee Titans. They look bad against the Bears. me what data there is that says the Raiders keep this even close. Gino Smith is a total pumpkin when it comes to primetime games. One in five straight up when the lights are bright,
Starting point is 00:41:07 one in five against the spread. Like Colin, he's just not a big time quarterback. The concern, obviously, with Dallas, they had the very difficult loss of the defensive lineman, his passing. And you wonder how a team responds. Everything I've heard out in the locker room is, hey, we're doing it for him. They love this guy. It feels to me like, you know, a galvanizing moment for the team. I think Dallas goes and serves notice here coming off that Arizona loss. I think they at least 35 points against this
Starting point is 00:41:35 Raiders defense. All right, good stuff. Also, the big game, and it's a Fox game, Seattle travels to Los Angeles. I do like Seattle. Mike McDonald took over for Pete Carroll, instantly made an impact. Now in year two, the defense is hyper-aggressive.
Starting point is 00:41:50 They rotate in a lot of pass rushers and a lot of guys. They've drafted well. Here's Dave Wonstat. What's he sees with kind of a Sean McVeigh on defense and Mike McDonald. Before he got that Seattle job, when he was at Baltimore as the coordinator, they were first, second, or third every year that he was there in defense. So he obviously had a foundation for what he wanted to do. I really appreciate what he's done, and you can do it a lot of different ways. You might get somebody up here that's a blitzmaniac, and he's going to see it completely
Starting point is 00:42:26 different. You can win and win Super Bowls doing a lot of different ways. Yeah, McDonald is special. And you know, I still contend this league is built through the draft because increasingly you
Starting point is 00:42:42 have to pay quarterbacks. Even be quarterbacks, you've got to pay them 40 million a year. And so that means how do you defer costs? You know, you can't do like baseball does with Otani's contract and the Dodgers. You have to hit on draft picks. We'll Seattle just doesn't miss on a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:42:58 So when you can hit on draft picks and they're highly productive, their first, second, third years, and you're not paying them, even first round guys, you're not paying them big money. And that's what Seattle's done. They have just, you know, they let go of D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett, and I think kind of the universal belief was, uh-oh, is JSN-01, maybe the best one. Then they go get a kid out of Colorado State,
Starting point is 00:43:22 and then they go grab Cooper Cup at a valuation that's pretty cheap. and then they go make a deal for Rashid Shahid. And Donald's a big one. My take was Seattle was going to be a playoff team this year. I had him as a wildcard team, and one of the things I said is, you know, Donald is so much more athletic than Gino Smith. You got a second year with Mike McDonald, and John Snyder just doesn't miss on his draft picks. So, I mean, they just, I mean, you know, certain times in the NFL, it's not that complicated.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Just turn the sound down and watch. And just Seattle is fast. everywhere. A wide receiver, edge rusher, corners, safety, linebacker, Seattle just runs. And, you know, the advantages of all those West Coast teams, they, you know, the L.A. teams, they got pretty warm weather. You know, San Francisco is kind of mild weather. Seattle gets pretty salty, late October on, so they're going to be, you know, there's going to be these opportunities. Seattle's been such a great road team, but they got a home field advantage, one of the louder stadiums, It gets really wet, damp, cold, and windy.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I think one of the reasons they're such a good road team is a couple of things travel. Your defense and your run games travel. A lot of times, you know, warm weather team goes into cold weather. The vertical passing game does not travel. But Seattle's built to travel. Ten straight road winds. And a lot of them comfortably. So I like Seattle close in that, you know, 27, 26, 28, 27, 24, 23 feel.
Starting point is 00:44:56 First things first. Nice. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:45:05 We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast, Point Game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
Starting point is 00:45:41 If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that Game 7, Marquis come up to you, he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You think you're in control until you realize you're not.
Starting point is 00:46:04 As they're having this gun battle, thousands of feet up in the air, many of the bullets start to puncture the aircraft. I thought we were going to die then. The Knife is a podcast about the moment ordinary lives take an unexpected turn. Real people, real stories, and the split second that changes everything. New episodes drop every Thursday on the Exactly Right Network and the IHeart Podcast Network. Listen to The Knife on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Crimless, Rory and I welcome a very special guest.
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Starting point is 00:47:02 Listen to Crimless on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Therapy is fantastic, but once again, it does not have a monopoly on healing. That's why I create the resources and that's why I create the community because I really just want you to have more access. On the podcast, cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully and be heard. It's tough because we're suppressing our emotions and so many. Many of us are like high achieving individuals. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast.
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