The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Herd - Hour 3 - Looking at the NFL draft

Episode Date: March 20, 2023

Fox Sports NFL analyst TJ Houshmandzadeh joins the show in studio to break down the top QB prospects for the upcoming NFL draftSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He was the one that three years ago came on this show and said, Justin Herber was going to be great. And we were like, great. And he was great. He gives us all these pre-draft gems. So you're working with the young quarterbacks again. Yeah, we're just talking with J-Mack. I know J-Mack likes to hoop.

You don't want to see Bryce or CJ on the basketball court. So let's talk Bryce Young. Athlete? Very, very, very, like, Bryce is super athletic. Can hoop, can play basketball. Like, on the field, he'll just mess around and do releases. Like, that's receiver work. It's quick.

Looks good doing that. He's just, he can pretty much do whatever. He's that good of an athlete. Okay. Not big. Kind of light. $195. He's not tall.

He's gotten thicker. He's put on some weight. He's consistently 200 every day. Every day. So you guys weigh him? Well, I ask him. What you win? He just smiles.

204, 205, 202. How's his arm strength? Very good. He's so accurate. Like, arm strength can be overrated at times. If you throw with anticipation, it doesn't matter. We got some guys out there that can run. John Ross is out there.

He overthr Thorne Ross. And Ross can run. He was a fastest guy in the combine. Can run. And so Bryce is just extremely accurate. Throws in anticipation. If you just watch when we're training, like, he'll put his body in certain situations. Guys running a deep over route.

Bryce is drifting one way. Throws a ball accurately in stride. You don't, it's not, it's always a good throw. Always. Yeah, he sees the field well. Quick release. You say good enough arm and super athletic. super athletic.

And he's not getting out of the pocket to run. He's getting out of the pocket to throw. To throw the ball. And that's what you want. That's today's quarterback is the most successful ones that are mobile, but they're mobile to throw, not mobile to run. All right. CJ Stroud's another California kid goes to Ohio State.

Very accurate, good size. Here's my knock. What's the it? Where is he great? I see a lot of good. Where's the juice? Where's the wow? And you don't know what any of these guys coming out.

But CJ's a bigger guy. Another guy, extremely accurate, really good arm. What I like about CJ is this is off the field. Whoever the 50, and I've told people this, whoever's the 53rd guy on the roster, he's going to make them feel like they're the first guy on a roster. Nice guy. That's just who he is. He's going to make everybody feel important.

And that goes a long way when you're the quarterback where you feel like, oh, I may be on a practice squad or I may not play. he's not going to treat him that way. That's off the field. On the field, I think because he played with Ohio State and their receivers are constantly getting drafted to the league. Well, they're unbelievable. They're like all great.

But you go look at the quarterbacks of the last few years that have been drafted outside of Herbert. Their receivers go to the league and do well. I mean, you look at Joe Burrow with Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase, two of the top five receivers in the league. You look what Bryce Young played with at Alabama. He's going to play with better. receivers at Alabama that he's going to go to the league and play with. And so I don't hold that

against CJ that he played with really good receivers. He's accurate. He has a really good arm. He's smart. He understands the game of football. But these kids need to get drafted to a team that's not in chaos. You want something to be functional, not dysfunctional. You go to a dysfunctional franchise. You have to be Trevor Lawrence Good. You have to be like Andrew Luck. And you can be Trevor Lawrence good. If Urban Meyer stays there, they don't win. Trevor Lawrence is going to be considered a bust. So let's go. Who else do you got in camp? Will Levis?

Will Levis is with Jordan Palmer? Let me ask this. He's a little muscular for my taste. He's not real fluid. Big arm. Is he fluid enough? He throws the ball differently. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. It's got to But it's different. It is

different when you watch the other guys throw. It's his throwing motion is different. But man, it's what you said. He's big. He's muscular, but I don't know if he's too muscular. He just kind of reminds me of Tim Koucho, even though they went to Kentucky. A big guy, good size, really good arm. He's mobile.

Only thing that concerns me is you couldn't play at Penn State. You couldn't play at Penn State, and then you go to Kentucky because you couldn't beat out Sean Clifford at Penn State. That concerns me. Now, could it be? politics, that happens a ton in college football. Joe Burrell transferred, so. And he's better than R.J. Barrett.

Wasn't that the name of the quarterback? Yes, yes. And Dwayne Haskins and those guys. What it was, J.T. Barrett. J.T. Barrett. My bad, sir. So his throw motion is different, Will Levis. The key to this, like Jordan Palmer does a hell of a job training these guys

and teaching them coverage and teaching them, how to manipulate defenses. I've been around him so much. He does a really good job at that. If you take to that coaching, you're going to be DTRs out there. Think he looks good throwing the ball. Okay.

How about, do you have Anthony Richardson? No. Okay. But I spent some time with Anthony Richardson. I went to the combine. I was there the whole week. What did you make of it? Who stood out to you?

Hey, let me ask you this. So give me a receiver that you thought was really good at the combine. Wow, just one? Well, there's a butt. Obviously there's an abundance of them. These are the guys that I thought were good players at the Combine receivers. I like Tankdale from Houston, Zay Flowers, Josh Downs, Jackson Smith and Jigba, Michael Wilson from Stanford, Mingo from Ole Miss, Quentin Johnson from TCU,

and it was a- All look like NFL guys? Yes, and it was a kid from South Carolina. I believe his last name was Brooks. Okay. For me, those are the guys that I, that stood out to me. That was about seven receivers. And they all looked apart.

Oh, yeah. Flowers is a little small, but like explosive. Tankdale, Zay Flowers, Josh Downs. They're all shorter receivers. So what did you think of and Richardson at the Combine? I thought Richardson, super athletic, really, really good arm. Can you fix the accuracy?

They fixed Josh Allen. I mean, Josh Allen was able to get it fixed. And so that was one thing that people, said, oh, I don't know if you're inaccurate in college, you're going to be inact. Josh Allen is kind of blown that up. No, I watched him in college. He was inaccurate. And he didn't start a ton of games.

And that concerns me. But this is what I will say. We had a meeting at the Combine. He was actually part of my group. And after that meeting, he just pulled me to the side and was like, man, I just want to kind of pick your brain. And I thought that was impressive. He didn't have to do that.

Talk to him. We exchanged text messages now here and there. I root for him. I hope he does well. But again, he's going to have to be a guy that sits similar to what Jordan Love is done, what Aaron Rogers did behind Brett Farv if he's to be successful, because it's hard when you start so few games in college. Let's go to the Jordan Love thing.

Did you have him? Did, we did. Okay. So he's tall enough. He moves very, very well. It was funny. In college, he had a very good year before his last year. Now, that could have been he lost offensive linemen.

He lost a coach. So he had a very good year. college. Then he came back and didn't play as well. Give me his strength. If I'm a Packer fan, Jordan loves strength when you saw him and something that concerns you. His strength was his

size, his arm strength. But now when he came in, I believe it was that Philadelphia game. Went six for nine, think he threw for 11, 11, 11, 14 yards, and a touchdown. I was really impressed. Yeah.

And Aaron Rogers is a trailblazer. man like all these young kids want to be like him his motion the way he was throwing a ball was just like erin rogers that was different than what he was and so that show when the last time you saw jordan love on the field uh like you work with him oh work when when he was coming out but i've seen him on the field last year last off season yeah but it's it's different so he now throws he's got the air in motion yes and i and i think a lot of these young kids everybody growing up up. Now, all the high school kids, they're all mimicking Aaron Rogers, all of them. Every last one of them. And, you know, it's interesting with Aaron, he kind of throws it going backwards. You know, he can do it because

his arm's so strong. Aaron's, uh, mechanically is so unique. It reminds me years ago, like, I grew up with a baseball player named Joe Morgan and then there was John Cruck. And then, like, and then you see golfers who have wacky stances or there are these guys that just go against mechanics. I know what I think, though, Colin, if you talk to the, Jordan Palmer's and the John Bex and Adam the Dole's, Taylor Kelly's of the world, they'll tell you what Aaron Rogers,

how he throws the ball, is how it should have been taught. And now that's what they're teaching. Where does he get his, Brady got his leverage from his hips. Where does Aaron get it from? It's, it's, if you equated to baseball, when you get in a stretch, your lower body

goes first, your upper body stays back. When you get your upper body ahead of your lower body, That's when the mechanics get out of whack. And so a lot of this, all these sports intertwine, it's just like playing baseball, get in a stretch, let the lower half go first, upper half come second. So would you draft, you're a GM, C.J. Stroud, Bryce Young, first pick, go. Wow.

Man, they're going to be mad at me. One of them. I would probably, I'd go C.J. Wow. Size. Yeah, and Bryce is going to be fine. CJ needs to go where he's coming. Bryce is just a different person mentally.

Like Bryce can go anywhere and he's going to be successful because of his temperament. He doesn't get too high, too low. Like just the way he carries himself, CJ needs to go somewhere where the coach believes in him. You got guys that can make plays because he's, he's. a little more fiery than Bryce is, a little more talkative than what Bryce is. But I would probably go, I'd probably go CJ. Wow. I like that.

One thing I like about Bryce when I saw his high school stuff and I've seen it in college, he sees the entire field well. A lot of young quarterback sees parts of it. Like a lot of guys come out of college and they've only been coached to see the right side of the field, two receivers. I always feel like Bryce sees the field. He moves around, his head's moving. He's smart. He's good. He processes so fast. And Mahomes is like that. Insane processor.

He was taught at an early age to process. And we were just, it's funny, we were just talking about this on Friday. Me and Bryce, he was like, there's one thing to understand what to do. But when you say said hut, can you process it fast enough? We just had this discussion on Friday that a lot of guys can tell you what to do and they'll break it down. But when you have to do it and that past rush is coming, it's different. It's completely different. Yeah. Good stuff. T.J. Hushman's audit. You on after us to today?

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No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Heard line news. Because we've talked about it. There was that big trade at the top of the draft. So do you think they're going up for C.J. Stroud? We believe it might be Anthony Richardson, because that's a big haul, T.J.

to go up for a guy like C.J. Stroud, who there's debate, if he's even the best quarterback in the draft. I think they're going to get Bryce. I really do. I think the Panthers are going to go draft Bryce Young. I don't think they'll give up that to draft Anthony Richardson. I'll throw this. I believe that Bryce Young

would be the best quickly because I do believe he's a pro quarterback now I don't know how long he'll last that body but my takeaway with Bryce is between the pro coaching he got with Bill O'Brien and the football power he came from

and his accuracy that he'll be able to walk in and start day one in the league and it'll look comfortable do you think that's true? Yeah Bryce should be able to start week right away that's what I think he should be able to but

what's he would be able to start What's he throwing it to? Keep your eye on Carolina's having a pretty interesting offseason. They just signed out. I'm feeling. Okay, that's one. They're going after DJ Hark. He can run.

If he can stay healthy, he's a good player. So they trade it up to go for the smallest quarterback ever go in the top 10s? I just don't believe Frank Wright being a rookie head coach or his first year head coach in Carolina. You're not tying your job to Anthony Richardson. It's just too much what if. I don't believe they'll do that. Okay. But you and I agree.

Bryce Young can start Thursday after Labor Day and be functional and efficient. I believe that. I think he's much more polished. Even Justin Fields, but he's more polished. He's ready to play in the NFL now. Bryce is good, man. Like, if you could just seem working out and just how accurate, like, he's throwing receivers he's never thrown with. And he's accurate all the time.

Very exciting. Yeah, this is going to be exciting. mock draft is changed. It just changed everything. And you get on the court, you'll get you buckets. Remember when you told me about Zach Wilson? Zach is extremely athletic. You go to a team that isn't ready, and this is what happens.

When they were ready, he wasn't ready. Yeah. Still stinks. Hopefully he can learn. Let's move to the news. Lakers got the win last night. We talked briefly about a cowherd. They're now 10th in the West, just 10 games remaining.

LeBron has missed each of their last 11 recovering from that foot injury. Lakers 6 and 5 treading water without LeBron. Darwin spoke about the LeBron update, and it doesn't sound great. We anticipate them coming back at some point. Him being out has revealed it. We have a lot of different weapons that are very capable players on both sides of the ball that can help us achieve the goal that we're trying to achieve. And when he comes back, he's just going to add to it.

Well, I don't think it's a championship roster. Austin Reeves saying dropping 35 every night. Well, that's a good story by him. Undrafted kid, good for him. Oh, great. But guess what? There's another game coming up, and they've got to win that. The pressure's on them to continue to win.

I don't know. I didn't watch last night. How did Anthony Davis do? I saw the box. He was all right. He was okay. I mean, the big question, Colin, and you know, we've gone back and forth on this, if LeBron comes back and they get in at the ninth seed,

how dangerous is this team? And the answer is, like, in a wide open West, if they can get in. I don't, you know, the Lakers will have a shot to do some damage as crazy as that sound, right? I think they'd be a handful for Denver if that was their. I think they'd be a handful. If Anthony Davis is healthy, he neutralizes Yokic to some degree, and they've got some

shooters and LeBron. And again, LeBron and AD have playoff experience where Denver doesn't have a ton of it. I think they'd be a little bit of a, they'd be a very, very, if healthy, if I got LeBron and AD for six, seven games, I think they could beat them. And that's the thing that could keep eight. in L.A., right? If he goes head-to-head with Yokic, outplays him in the series, Lakers win, that's the kind of thing that... No, that's when you're selling. Sell high. I love it. All right, next up, Dallas Cowboys made a move for Brandon Cooks.

You said earlier, they set the Texans a 2023 fifth and a 2024-6th. Yeah. Second veteran the Cowboys have added in recent weeks. Remember, they got Stefan Gilmore on the Colts. He kind of faded. He was awesome for a while with the Patriots faded. A lot of people. People on social media are hyper-ranking. Look at the value Dallas is getting with veterans. We think Dallas is kind of going back a little bit, but does Cooks and Gilmore kind of change the trajectory? Because all of a sudden, now they're secondary.

It's not bad. I mean, can you make a case that they could win the division? By getting Gilmore, they don't have to draft a corner. I don't think Brandon Cook changed as much. I think he's fine. I wish they would have kept Amari Cooper, who they basically got a fifth and a six-four, I think, around there. and Mari had a huge year in Cleveland.

I mean, nine touchdowns and almost 75, 76 catches. So Brandon Cooks is fine. You know, C.D. Lambs are won. Gallop to me, I'm a little bit of a seller on that stock. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He was injured, came back last year. Brandon Cooks is a three. A fast three.

And they got a couple rookies that they drafted last year. I'm waiting on them. All right, final story, cowherd, is it's official. The dolphins have exercised the fifth-year option. on Tua's rookie contract. This was expected, of course. They'll have Tua through 2024. So the window for them with this U-group,

Tyreek Hill, Jalen Ramsey, is two years. Tua will make a fully guaranteed 23-mill in 2024. I think they're going to draft a quarterback. How high do you go? Mid-round. Yeah, fifth, sixth, seventh. I think they're going to draft a quarterback who, like Brock Purdy, multiple-year college starter, who delivers the ball accurately,

because, and I think because of Tua's concussion, Mike White may be that guy. But I think this offense has proven time and time again. Multiple year college starter, somebody gets rid of it quick accurately. You can win a lot of games. Well, like you said, Mike White from the Jets, Skylar Thompson was in the playoffs with them last year.

Listen, if you just looked at the roster and didn't factor in the injuries to Tua, this is one of the better rosters in the AFC. Oh, it's a very good roster. Not just the league, the AFC was just stacked. I just, I can't get over the two of stuff, you know? I mean, they... Well, if he had, let me ask you, week six, concussion.

Probably career-over, right? I mean, you got to keep him out at least to Thanksgiving. But that's why you get Mike White. Mike White, the Jets hero, for a couple weeks. I mean, but I would ask you. And I'm not, of course, we're not rooting for it. But he is getting to a point with another concussion, and here comes the media avalanche,

You've got to hold them out for five or six weeks. I mean, listen, the process for Miami is good. Quarterback on the rookie deal. Let's go get Bradley Chub. Let's go get Tyreek Hill. Let's go get Jalen Ramsey. They're doing the right thing. The process doesn't always work out.

Ask the Sixers in the NBA, you know, you trust the process for years. It just doesn't happen. But I can't fault them for what they're doing. No, they're in their, no, I think it's, they've told us they want Tua. I would be concerned, but I still think even with Mike Bight and Tua, I'd go draft another quarterback. I'd go try to find somebody in the fifth, six. round. They don't have a, by going and getting Jalen Ramsey, they don't have a ton of holes on the

roster. The O-line needs another, some more attention. The O-line's not great. No, it's not great. Left tackle's good. It's not great. So you pay attention to that. But in that offense, you've got Tyree Kill, you've got Waddle. Now, Giske, I don't think's coming back. Didn't he go somewhere else? Patriot. Patriot. For a year. So tight end, we'll see. But offensively, the pieces are in place for them to pass. This 10-11 win team, right? Jets better land, Aaron. That's all I'm going to say, J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream,

this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.

I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack.

I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah.

For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, it's time for Collins Creamery. It's a Baltimore-based ice cream shop debuted an ice cream in Baltimore called Pay Lamar. And so we thought we'd take that story. and I'd create my creamery. If I had to name ice creams after current quarterbacks, what would be the ice cream for the quarterback?

There is actually a Baltimore creamery literally did name an ice cream after Lamar. So it gave us a little idea. You're ready to go? You have a beer, right? A cowherd beer. Don't you need an ice cream? Go great together. Oh, my son likes gelato a lot.

I'm lactose intolerant, so I can't. All right, which flavor of ice cream? is Aaron Roger. Rocky Road. A lot of turbulence with a front office in the last several years. Everybody likes Rocky Road. It's a, you know, it's a little different,

but it's, yeah, that feels like it to me. I have a feeling the next one's going to also be a perfect fit. What flavor of ice cream is Kirk Cousins? Vanilla. There you go. Yeah. Nobody goes out on a Friday and Saturday looking for vanilla ice cream. He's not good in prime time.

11 and 18 all time and prime time. So it's a Tuesday night. You're out with your wife, chicken parm. You get vanilla ice cream, but not on a Saturday night. Chicken farm. Not in prime time. All right. Which flavor, oh, this is going to be tough one.

Which flavor of ice cream is Kyler Murray? Pistachio. It's a little nutty. I love me some Kyler. All right. But even, I've been the biggest Kyler Murray fan, and I'm not sure right now if I like. Have you ever had pistachio ice cream? It depends on the day.

day, but it's a little too many nuts for me. Yeah. All right. Which flavor of ice cream is Dach Prescott? Neapolitan. I don't know if I'm getting three interceptions or three touchdowns. I don't know exactly what I'm getting every bite. Very good. Better than average. But if you get on the right side, you get all strawberry. I'm not a strawberry ice cream person. Really? Oh, I don't get it. Another flavor I've never had, Neopolitan. All right.

Which flavor of ice cream is Jimmy Garoppolo? Cake batter. It looks great from the outside, but like two bites, it's just too sweet. I mean, again, from the outside, it looks perfect. This is why I like Jimmy Garoppel. He's cake batter. Cake batter is like my favorite. That's what I get.

That's my flavor. Next up, oh, Patrick Mahomes. What flavor of ice cream would he be? What is everybody like? Chocolate chip cookie dough. Everybody in the world likes it. Not only is the ice cream great, but you get these little little little. bites of greatness in the middle of it. So just, you know, not only in the Mahomes is great.

And then you get these throws in the fourth quarter, you're like, I get that too. The most popular. Never met anybody that doesn't like it. Well, let's go to Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bill. What a flavor of ice cream is Josh Allen? Double fudge brownie. A little powerful. Okay. A little goes a long way with Josh Allen, who we like very much, but he did account for 84% of the bill's offense, but he also led the NFL with 19 giveaways. So again, this will knock you out. If you had two scoops of that, you're down for the night and you may be a diabetic.

I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, but packs a, it may be, in one bite, it may be the best. Okay, let's go to Joe Burrow. What flavor is he? Um, a little flare, but smooth. Mint chocolate chip. Again, smooth, great, but a little flare. Not, not, you know, always, always good in crisis. You know, you had a great meal. You just want a couple of bites. Mint chip.

I like burrow. I don't like mint anything. Which flavor of ice cream is Jill and hurts. Butter of a can. You wouldn't think it would be the prototypical ice cream, but it's not built the same, but it's smooth like butter. And he is, after that Super Bowl performance. Dude smooth, getting paid.

He's pretty good, but tow to to at Mojones. We will wrap up with which flavor of ice cream is Trevor Lawrence. I mean, chocolate. First time you laid eyes on it, you're like, yeah, it's going to be good. I mean, nobody's debating it. No hot takes on it. First time you saw it, first time you had it, you're like, I could have this every night. Former national champion, five-star recruit.

Next to Andrew Luck, the best college quarterback prospect. Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence, and Caleb Williams. USC are the three best college prospects I've seen in a decade. And luck was, people forget how good Andrew Luck was. So he goes to Indy. Now think about how hard it is as a rookie, even if you went to a decent team. The Colts had the number one pick so they were awful. He goes 11 and 5, 11 and 5 and 11 and 5.

With arguably no run game in an atrocious offensive line. Yeah. And then Trevor Lawrence, sideways year one, but I thought last Jerry was fantastic. What's Andrew look up to these days? Reads a lot of books, married and happy. Do you think he'd come on the show? I have a lot of questions. No. Doesn't do media?

You know, this is not a criticism of him. It's a reality of him. He obviously loved playing football, but it didn't define him. And I think Aaron Rogers is a little bit like that. I don't think football defines Aaron Rogers. I think he loves music and he loves golf and he loves doing what he likes to do and he's spiritual. And I don't think it's okay. It's not a criticism. Not everybody's Brady and obsessed or Kobe and obsessed. That's okay. On some level, Aaron Rogers loves Aaron Rogers more than anything else? I think it's okay to have an ego.

I do think sometimes Aaron runs, depending on the teammates I've talked to, they can run a little hot and cold. But, you know, I don't want this to be like Aaron Rogers getting bashed all day. I think Aaron's great. I do think I was shocked that he was surprised Green Bay moved off him. It was like, dude, you got to have somebody in your social circle calling you out once in a while. That was not surprising. Now, you could be pissed, but you can't say, I can't believe they moved off me. Dude, three years you've been playing around.

I tend to believe that green, some things, you know, over the course of your life, you'll look at things and think it's a strength. Like, hey, I'm single. I mean, literally a guy's 30 years old. I can do whatever I want. You start hanging out in weird groups when you're single and there's some regrettable relationships. It's nice to just come home and hang out with somebody.

I think Green Bay doesn't have an owner. And I think Farr and Rogers probably love that power. But you know what? Sometimes it's just great to go upstairs and Stan Cronkey says, I want that. Or Jerry Jones or Robert Kraft say, I want that. I would want an owner. I think you look at it and think, hey, man, I don't have anybody breathing down my neck. I got more power than anybody in this organization.

But it's like if I didn't get called out on my crap, I'd make more bad decisions. Like I need somebody to bounce decisions off of and bounce opinions off of and somebody to call me out. And an owner is there to go, like for instance, would Aaron, have sat out for nine weeks if they had an owner. The owner would have sat down after the season and said, hey, I'm going to give you three weeks. Give me an answer. Okay, but the Jets owner flew to Aaron Rogers to recruit him. But that's because the Jets are always desperate. Okay. Because Aaron Rogers, I don't know who in that building he's going to listen to. And don't tell me it's the offensive coordinator. Well, at this point, Aaron may not listen to anybody. But the point being over the last four or five

years, I think an owner would have helped Aaron. And just somebody that you have to be a little accountable to, I mean, Sean McVeigh, Les Sneed, Matt Stafford, you've got to be accountable to stand Cronkey. Okay. He'll move off you. And I think that you see that as a threat, and I look at it as an ally. I like to answer to somebody.

I don't want to have too much power. So let me ask, who are the veterans in the Jets locker room that keep Aaron Rogers the new guy in line? Because he ain't that leader. You've said it many times. They don't have one. Maybe that's why he likes the Jets.

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