The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Looking at the start of the NFL season, Packers getting Micah Parsons, will it get ugly in Miami, Albert Breer

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

Colin talks to senior NFL writer Albert Breer about the start of the NFL season, the Cowboys trading Micah Parsons to the Packers, if the Dolphins season could get ugly quick, and moreSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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a dogged reporter. Big J. Journalism is out there with Jimmy Haslam, and he had no idea that he was actually looking ahead of the 2027 draft, and Julian San, he thought he went there for Arch Manning, but the better quarterback was the Ohio State kid. So, I mean, listen, this is interesting because I said watching television, I defended Ohio State. I said, listen, if I'm Ryan Day and I'm watching how uncomfortable Arch is, I'm not taking any big swings unless I get to midfield, which they did.

I'm like, you could just tell body language. Julian was comfortable. Arch was not. So I'll defend Ohio State to the ends of the earth. earth you were there. Did you notice early how uncomfortable arch felt? It looked like he didn't know exactly what he was looking at, which is I think part of the equation for a young quarterback. And this is why I always thought it was silly to anoint him the number one pick in the draft after two starts. I mean, most teams will tell

you the threshold is 25 starts. That's where they want a kid at at a baseline coming in the end coming into the NFL if they're going to be able to translate what they did in college to the pro level and um the reason why is because of the things that arch lacks you know the amount of defenses you've seen the ability of defenses to adjust to you after you put five or six games on tape how do you counter punch you know it's just there's so much that that you got to build up as far as the library in your head if you're a young quarterback to be ready for the pros it's just there just wasn't enough that anyone knew about Arch Manning to anoint him again a first round pick let alone the first

overall pick in the draft and I think the Mannings knew that which is one of the reasons why they tamped down expectations I think Arch is a pretty self-aware kid who understood that as well and look this is what he was up against on Saturday a defense that may have a handful of first round picks on it a coordinator who's won Super Bowls running defenses in the NFL and absolutely zero tape on what he was going to do to anyone at the college level. You know, so the Texas Longhorns came in there flying blind. You had a young quarterback going in there without any idea what Ohio State was going to throw at him. And, you know,

in this particular spot before the snap gave no indications at all, you know, like that's one of the best things Ohio State did was not giving Arch or Sark or anyone else in that Texas sideline any clue what was going to happen after the snap before the snap. And so there's a really tough circumstance for a young quarterback to walk into like one of the, that maybe the loudest I've ever heard that stadium. So you add that into it. And I think we can have some grace here for Archmanning. I think he's going to be just just fine. And I think in the fourth quarter, he actually showed some resilience and making some big time throws, one for the touchdown, of course, and then the other to the tight end, down the left sideline,

they're near the end of the game. So listen, I said this the last six or seven years when Belichick was in New England, is I don't know how good he is at personnel. When, you know, the more control he had with his dog, his laptop in Nantucket in the draft, the less talent they had. Brady was just, I mean,

Brady was visibly disappointed in his last couple of years. Nobody could get open. And then he goes to the college, level. And I didn't see a lot of talent last night for Carolina. You got three Belichick's staff, Mike Lombardi's son. I'm not saying they're not capable, but he's gotten into a point that Bill likes comfortable. He wants to work with certain people. Well, Albert, that's not really what McVeigh does or Andy Reid does. Like, I was shocked how bad last night looked. Were you? Yeah, well, I think there are two things really here to look at. I mean, the first thing is,

you're right. Like you look at the end in New England, he became a little bit less trusting of his scouts, which I think is when he started to take on more of the draft onto himself. And that's when he started overruling people. You know, drafting, you know, drafting Nikiel Harry in 2019 over the scouts who liked Debo Samuel or A.J. Brown. Drafting, you know, drafting Cole Strange in 2022 over the scouts pick, which would have been at the time, Trent McDuffie. There were lots of stories like that at the end in New England. And so, yeah, I mean, I think that that's definitely part of it. You're turning over so much of the roster. I mean, 70 new players. And we're not talking about 25, 26, 27-year-olds coming in. We're talking about 19, 20, 20, 21-year-olds.

How does that all look when you try to put it together? You can ask Dion about that. Dion did that two years ago at Colorado, and they went, what, four and eight? You know, and then last year, obviously, it looked better once you had some continuity. And then there's just the look of the whole thing. And this was the thing that surprised me, Colin. It wasn't that they lost. I thought they'd lose. I thought TCU was going to beat them because I think TCU is a better program right now.

What surprised me was what the third quarter looked like. Like that looked like bad news bears-ish. And maybe I'm beating myself a little bit there with that reference. No. I mean, like it turned it off mid-third quarter. I turned it off. It was so bad. It was, I mean, like it was the 75-yard run right out of the locker room, right, for a touchdown.

then TCU converts a third and 20 with a throw right down Main Street, you know, to that tight end, and they convert that third and 20, and then on the very next play, another long touchdown run, this one for 28 yards untouched, that running back, that no North Carolina player lay that hand on that running back. And then almost immediately after that, you had the fumble, scoop, and score. It's just, it wasn't that they got beat. It wasn't even the margin.

It was the look of it there. in the third quarter that really like, I mean, wow, like that, like, I just don't remember seeing a Bill Belichick team look that way. And for whatever reason it happened, I mean, they've obviously got a lot to clean up. They've got some time to do it. But like, I've been really curious to see how Belichick's program would look when it's applied to younger kids to 19, 20, 21-year-olds. And obviously last night, it didn't look great. So I went the other way. I would have, either signed or move Micah a year ago, I'm going to give the Cowboys a credit for flexibility

that their cakes not made. Green Bay, Micah's icing. The cake's great. Dallas, the cakes in disarray. And I think if you're going to spend $47 million, I need a leader in the clubhouse. I need a great locker room guy. I need the best guy in the training facility.

That's not what Micah is. I like four first round picks. One of them next year I'm grafting a quarterback. Dallas got crushed by everybody. I wasn't deeply bothered by it. Were you? I think I'm in alignment with you on this and that like my biggest problem with it was the timing. Yeah.

You know, like you said, like I, they started to have these big picture conversations in April after, you know, the negotiation there with Micah failed. And like, I agree with what they've done here with the big picture conversation they were having, which was we are, I think, top 10, maybe top eight in the NFL and wins over the last 30 years, yet we have not been to a conference title game in that period, which is the third longest drought in the NFL right now. Only the Dolphins and Browns haven't been to a conference championship game over a longer period. So I think it caused them to look inward, you know, and how come we've been pretty good, but we're not great? And we've never able to put it over the top. And I think, think some of that reflection brought them to a place where it was, if we trade Micah, what are we

going to do with that? And like, the answer became like, let's lean into what Brian Schottenheimer's trying to build. He's used this phrase, the greatest culture in professional sports. Now, maybe that's hyperbole, but that's what he's looking to build. And I think that's reflected in the trade, right? Like they had a half dozen teams that were involved. And, you know, so they wind up, you know, picking the Packers package, which had the two first round picks. But really, like the key to me was the player that they selected, the player that they wanted, the player that they asked for is Kenny Clark. And the Packers were a little surprised by that, just in that, like, wouldn't you ask for an edge player? Wouldn't you ask for a Van Ness or a, or a, or a, or a

Sean Gary, you know? And the answer I got when I asked Dallas about that was we wanted to help the run defense, which they've said, but they also wanted to bring in a pro, like a grown-up. And Kenny Clark, I can tell you, the Packers were heartbroken to let them. go. Now they had to do this, right? But they were heartbroken to let him go. And that's because of the person, the leader, the pro that he is. And that's what Dallas is leaning into now. So this is sort of a bigger

reimagination of what they are that they think's going to be, that they think is going to work to empower guys like Dak Prescott in the locker room. And look, like I think the biggest criticism I can have of them here is the timing of it. Because if you do this before the draft, A, there are more teams involved because at this point in the calendar teams have their roster set,

their budget set, their cap set. It's harder for teams to get involved in something like this. So you're going to have a bigger pool of candidates looking at Micah Parsons if you do this in April. And you'll also have one of those players on your roster now. Like if you if you if you're trading for a first round pick in April, well, then that guy is on your team right now. So I think you can definitely criticize them for the timing of it. They could have elevated things back in April and brought those tension points back then where, you know, you find out whether or not Mike is going to be signable or not. And then, you know, you have a bigger pool of teams that you're picking from

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Miami's interesting because I think there's a chance that they crater a little bit. I just look at their roster, Colin, and I may have said this to you before, but I like to do this thing where when I look at a team's roster, I say, who's going to be there two years from now, right? How many guys on Miami's roster could you name right now that you know are going to be there in 2027? Wow.

Not a lot. I mean, I think Jalen Waddle will be there in 2027. I think Chop Robinson will be there in 20227. Can you name another one, maybe Tua? Like, there just aren't a lot. lot, right? I could see them moving Tua to get draft picks and start over. I really could. Yeah. So, I mean, like that list is really short because of, you know, some of the things that have happened with some of their older players and they've moved on from some guys. And, you know,

I think that that core that they built for the window that you have with Tua's rookie contract, that they aged out, you know. And so now they're in this sort of subtle reset where they, you know, They've got Patrick Paul, a second round pick from last year at left tackle. And, you know, on the edges, they had the older guys, Chubb and Phillips get hurt. Jalen Ramsey's gone. Toronto Armstead's gone. You know, they're just sort of in this, in this reset. Oh, by the way, New England may be the most improved team in the league.

So the division now has a champion in New England. So the Jets have talent. So like I just look at this like, you're going through this reset now. and I love Mike McDaniel as a coach, as an offensive mind, but if you are going to go into a more thorough rebuild after this year, then you're starting to ask big picture questions. Like who's going to lead the rebuild? And this involves a general manager too.

Like I think those are all big picture questions that you're asking if you're going through a reset. And I think this is the front end of their reset. So Mike McDaniel just signed an extension last year. So it's not going to be, it's not nothing to walk away from him. But if things go poorly at the start of the year, then, I mean, I think you could definitely see where maybe some of the questions that'll be asked after the year get accelerated a little bit. Okay. And finally, Albert Breer Monday Morning quarterback, I said the Minnesota, Chicago game is so fascinating. I don't know what J.J. McCarthy is. I cannot wait to watch Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson.

and I think Minnesota's got a better roster. I'd probably take them as a favorite. Before I went on my very brief vacation, J-Mack, very brief. Labor Intent. Well, I was probably this time of year, too. I said, if you look at that schedule, they don't do well in division. The Bears haven't done well in division in over a decade. I said, I'll give them three and three in division.

I'll give them three and three. and I got nine wins out of this puppy. There's some unwinnable games. At Philadelphia is rough. At Baltimore. Listen, I mean, there's just, there's a lot of rough. At San Francisco at the end of the year when their young players have grown up a little bit's tough. Yeah.

I was positive, Colin. I gave them nine. Where are you with them? When you look at that, where are you? And I thought I was, I said, 500 in division. They don't do that. Yeah. I mean, it's a tough division.

sure. Like I think you look at that schedule, you're playing the AFC North, which is a really tough draw, right? Like so, yeah, I mean, like if you're the Bears, I think the idea is going to be we're ascending by the end of the year. And so what does that mean? Well, that means you've get your tackle situation worked out, right? Like you got, you figured out whether you left tackles, Braxton Jones or Ozzie Tripillo or Darnell Wright moving over from right to left. Caleb Williams is starting to play well in Ben Johnson's offense. You figured that out. He's playing fast. He's getting the ball out. Romo Dunzee is evolving into a legitimate number one receiver. Luther Burden's giving you something on offense. And Dennis Allen has the defense

rolling. You figured out the edge opposite Montez Sweat with a combination of different guys. So I think there is a world where you can get them over 500. But because of the division that they play in, it's a tough ask. And because of the schedule they have, again, it's a tough ask. to play the other North Division makes it difficult. So I would say, like, if I'm a Chicago fan, what I'm looking for is an ascending team at the end of the year with a quarterback who's playing well. I think if you get there, you feel really good about where you are under Ben Johnson. Yeah, they got some tough roadies. Great stuff. Albert Breer, both of us, by the way, spend a little bit of our summer in the Northeast.

But the minute, the fall smell comes back, the sunset shortened. Breer and I are back to journalism. No messing around. That's right. Only business here, Colin. That's right. We stand on business. Albert Brewer and myself, Monday morning quarterback. Good seeing you, buddy. All right, thanks, Colin. Yeah, that Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame Miami, Clemson, LSU.

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I'm telling you, that college football schedule over-delivered this weekend. Over-delivered. Clemson, LSU. I thought Clemson at home. Cabe Cloddnick would, you'd be like, oh, okay, they'll win by 10. Alabama complete no-show. And here's the thing. Can I throw my theory out what's happened?

So the SEC is fine. But the two NIL powerhouses are both the Texas schools, A&M and the Longhorns. Why? Because the Texas economy. This is why Nick Saban, Nick Saban knew when he played Sark the first time. He's like, they're bigger than us.

And we don't have Texas money. We got Alabama money. I mean, the biggest booster, I think, in Alabama is Bear Bryant's son. So they don't have the kind of money. when you looked at Alabama, they're big, but they didn't look extraordinary. They could not run the ball. They quit running the ball. Florida State had better players.

And so Florida State has always been super talented. Like say what you want. They had a little tizzy fit a couple years ago, but Florida State's a good program. Bobby Bowden on, Norville, they're good coaches. But I'm looking at Alabama. You can't fire Kalin DeBore. You have to be a $70 million check. And then you have to spend another 80 to get the next coach.

Alabama has acknowledged they're struggling to keep up at 12 million a year on NIL. They don't have that kind of money. They have one of the best left tackles in college football on Proctor. He's projected to be like a top 10 pick and they couldn't run the football at all. Kind of not good. By the way, you mentioned the schedule. So the best game this weekend, there's only one that I can tell with the top 25, Michigan, Oklahoma in Norman. I like Oklahoma's favor by five and a half.

I like Oklahoma. Worried about Michigan. Plus, they have, I don't know if you've seen USC's run game. Seriously. Okay. I'll just say, I'm not going to go crazy on this.

I want to be a journalist, but just check out the running back room at USC this year. Seriously. What does it go? 13 deep? Just kept putting new guys in knocking 10 yards of carry. J. Mack with a news. No, no, no, no.

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against the Chiefs and the referees in the AFC championship game. Entering this season, obviously it's Super Bowl or bust for Buffalo. Vegas has the Bill's favorite in all 17 games. They are tied for the best Super Bowl odds with the Ravens at plus 600. Colin, where are you?

Bill's Ravens, by the way, in the opener, game of the first weekend, please. I would take Buffalo. It's at home. You know, whoever was home, I would take him in that game. Well, I think that's as good as any game this week. And I think if I said to you upset alert, I really worry about the Rams.

The left tackle just started practicing against Will Anderson. Trouble. Let me go back real quick to the bills. So we're told it's a wide receiver league right now. Who's the best receiver on the bills? Slot receiver from Boise State. Shakir. Yeah.

That's it. Well, they got the Keon Coleman from last year. Come on. What is he? They have two very good tight ends. James Cook is happy. And I'm just, everybody loves wide receivers. You got to pay Justin, Jefferson, and Jamar says.

I think the league is slowly shifting away from wide receivers. Well, I mean, you could argue Kansas City, the Chargers, the Bills and the Ravens feel like they, I mean, now, Kansas City, I can't say that. Raiders have gone to the run game. The Chargers wide receiver depth chart, I think they just announced it, and Keenan Allen, who was like not even on a team three months ago, is now back starting.

No, the running game, the Renaissance, there's clearly a pivot, at least in the AFC, back to the run. Well, Detroit drafting, Jemir Gibbs, they're a run team first. By the way, the Packers don't have a clear one. They've got a lot of good receivers, and I think that's the new model.

We don't want to pay one guy. Like, the Bengals are stuck paying two guys all of the money. They don't have balance. And I think that would be my thing. Look at the bills. If they win the Super Bowl this year without a wide receiver, I think that's really interesting. Let's move on to a certain Niners quarterback. Brock Purdy, your boy.

He enters the season. He's now rich. He's rich, rich. I want you to read this headline. It's interesting story developing. Well, okay, so the athletic, your favorite outlet. Excellent, excellent athletics, a very trustable company. So they are reporting rival executives are skeptical the Niners can build around

Purdy making all of that money. Yeah. So, easiest schedule in the league. They'll be fine this year. But the division is getting tasty. Arizona is probably... Arizona's on the uptake. I'll tell you, my favorite pick of the weekend, maybe Arizona. Now, the number's gone up to

like six and a half. Arizona's going to thump the Saints. Well, they're in New Orleans, yeah, against Kellynne Moore and... Who that? That's trailing 27 to 3. That's who it is. But in all seriousness, so they move off Dibo Samuel. They did pay Iyuk, but he's going to be out for like at least the first six weeks.

I don't have as much concern about this. You just have to draft better. You can't whiff on like Trey Lansing. Wift on him. No, I mean, and I think I felt like the last couple years, Shanahan has had a lot of sand personnel. I don't necessarily love it. By the way, the fantasy guys out there love Pierceall this year. Where are you on the young guy who didn't show much last year, but he has a shot in life. He's a two. Okay. Jawan Jennings? He's a two, three. He's a all-world first ballot Hall of Fame.

Did I mention McCaffrey is healthy and ready to rock? Listen, they're going to win games. I'm not denying that. But you're talking about a team defensively when Bose misses three games. It is Fred Warner and a lot of, and a lot of me. In Robert Sala, I trust. By the way, his Jets defenses were great. That wasn't the problem. I like Solom. He's awesome. I like Solomon.

Major upgrade at coordinator defensive. Who's got a better one-two punch of coaches than Shanahan and Solomon? Not a lot of guys are in the... Minnesota's got the best staff, but they're up there. I love Kevin O'Connell. Kenny, what a playoff game before we see. Brian Flores gets run out of Miami

because he fights through this quarter. Can we just take a deep breath? Just like me with Arch Manning. Final story is college football Colin. It was an outstanding week one and the new AP Top 25 is out. It just came out. Hot off The presses. All right.

The Buckeyes are number one. 55 votes. Penn State, too. It's a big 10 world. We just live in it. LSU volts to three after the win at Clemson. Yeah. Let's see here.

Texas only slides down to seven, which is a little surprised. Clemson only at eight after losing at home. Illinois, a little low. You like Illinois a lot. I think Florida State deserves more respect than that. For the win over Alabama? Yeah, you're probably right. Anything surprise you there?

By the way, you have to look down to 21 to see your guy, Kaelin DeBoer, at Alabama. Well, they're not getting rid of him. All that Sabin talk is. They're definitely not getting rid of it. They're not getting rid of him. Also, hot off the presses, we have a full screen comparing Saban to DeBore. Listen, I know you're going to pile on Alabama.

I'm not piling on. I'm being reasonable. Colin, the under 500 is highlighted. Sabin was never under-finding. 500 at any point. But remember, he had a couple bad losses. Nick Saban knew when to get out. That's half the battle. The NIL exploded and he knows Bama doesn't have that kind of money. Colin, Nick Saban in 17 seasons had four unranked losses. Kalen DeBore already has four. But they're coming for him big time. Well, the NIL has actually saved SEC coaches.

You can't bail on these guys. They, Alabama cannot afford 150 mil, in firing one staff and hiring another. They cannot afford it. They can't. I don't know where it's coming from. Their athletic director was basically saying six months ago, we really need the help of our fan base. Forget the fans.

What about the players? Nick Saban put a billion guys in the NFL. You can't hit up Derek Henry for some money? What about all those wide receivers getting paid? Like, they have so many guys, Alabama's not giving back to the U.S. Let me look at that. Let me look at that again. When's the last time?

Miami. The Kid Simpson. Florida and Florida State were all in the top 15. 2006 preseason. How about that? I think Florida State's a little undervalued there. South Carolina is interesting. I watch that quarterback.

He's pretty clever. I love the kids sellers. I would like him with the Jets. Florida Gators have such a brutal schedule. They have landmines everywhere, but they're optimistic. I cannot wait. Once again, where's USC? scored 73 points.

Who did they play? Directional University. It was a very pesky program from one of the states in the middle of the country. Yeah. It'd be like North Dakota State or something. No, I think it was in, I don't know where it was. Missouri. You like to say roast beef tech.

I think it was Missouri. Missouri's a good football state. So you know it was a good program they beat. Missouri State? Is it Southwest Missouri State or was just Missouri State? All right. Somebody told me Sisters of the Blind, but I'm not certain. That's Alabama's lowest ranking

since 2008. And I'm sure they're taking it well. I mean, it wasn't a close game. That's the problem. No, it was a beatdown. I think you called me in the middle of that and you were like, are you watching this? I was like, no, I expected Alabama.

No, it wasn't even, they couldn't move the ball. I was back. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news. I will say this. I think Ohio State's win is more impressive that they're getting credit for

because I think Julian Sands are really your talented kid and look really comfortable but I think Ryan Day was on that sideline because I could see this and you could see this on TV

I think he was on that sideline and he was watching the first two series he was watching Archmanning's feet and body language and motion and he and they were getting a couple of bad field position possessions

and I think he's like guys I think Ryan Day after the second series just said we don't need to take Let's alter our game plan. Let's go super conservative here. And I think it was the right day, right move.

And Ryan Day came on earlier, and he admitted they went a little conservative with their quarterback. As Julian matures, we'll start opening it up. But we didn't want to turn the ball over down there and put our defense in a bad spot. And that's one of the first things that our plan to win is play great defense. And a part of playing great defense is sometimes making sure you play the field position game. Now, we don't love that, you know, in terms of, you know, we want to be explosive. We want to open this thing up. We want to score a ton of points, which you know.

But at the end of the day, the number one goal in a game like this was to win. And, yeah, they did. I thought he was really good. It's funny, lost in that game was how good Julian San was. Very composed. I don't know, you know, listen, you can defend Ohio State differently than last year because Ohio State's running back room last year was insane. It's like Penn State's is this year or Notre Dame's is this year. So it was really hard.

You couldn't cheat on Ohio State. So I don't think Jeremiah Smith is going to be, you're going to have to figure out ways to use him, put him in motion different sets, because people are going to just roll coverage over. Texas certainly did. But I thought Ohio State's win was impressive. I got to chime in here, Colin. I'm sorry. I just looked at the box.

You said Julian saying had a great game like that. He didn't say great game. He looked in that space. against world-class athletes. I thought he, and the world was watching. I thought he looked very comfortable. Good feet, good mechanics, very consistent. He was 13 or 20 for 126 yards, 6.3 yards per attempt.

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