The Herd with Colin Cowherd - THE HERD - Hour 3 - Mark Sanchez Analyzes Aaron Rodgers and Dak Prescott

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Colin talks to Fox Sports NFL analyst Mark Sanchez about Aaron Rodgers leading the Steelers offense and what Brian Schottenheimer has done to elevate Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott.See omnystudio.co...m/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com, or stream us live every day on the IHeart radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Kelly, just looking at some of the teams that Harbaugh, Jimmy Johnson thing. And I said, Jimmy Johnson and Harbaugh are the only ones that hit a home run in both places. It should be noted that Jimmy was such a great personnel guy that when he left, he always left teams with a lot of players. That helps a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:50 When Wanstatt took over, they had dudes. Wonstadt was much more successful in Miami than people realize. I think he's the last coach. Is he the last coach to win a playoff game in Miami? But he had a better record when they fired him than Mike Tomlin at the time had in Pittsburgh, but Pittsburgh doesn't fire coaches. And it just shows you how, you know, it's just tough in this league. Mark Sanchez is now joining us live.
Starting point is 00:03:12 He got Cardinals at the Niners this Sunday, which is fascinating because, you know, I was watching Mac Jones. And I mean, obviously there's certain coaches. Shane Stike and made Daniel Jones 10 for 10 in his first 10 drives. Like, clearly where you land. as a quarterback. It's incredibly valuable. What is it about Shanahan? I joke that his playbook should be called quarterback for dummies. It's virtually impossible not to work. But what is it about? Mac Jones looked,
Starting point is 00:03:43 that's the best pro game I've ever seen Mac Jones have. On the road, they asked him to throw 40 times. What is it about the playbook of Shanahan? Here's what I would equate it to. If you're a coordinator, worth your salt, you're like a GPS for quarterback. It doesn't matter who's driving. I'm going to give you a roadmap, and I'm going to provide you with turn-by-turn directions. You just got to execute these plays for me and stay out of trouble.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Just stay in the center lane, 55 miles an hour, and do what I tell you, right? Sometimes you're going to have to go off script. Sometimes you're going to have to go fill up for gas, whatever it is. But they're going to give you the roadmap, so the McVeigh's. I mean, remember, Sean McVeigh, he brought Baker Mayfield in for, like, less than 24 hours and beat the Raiders in a two-minute drive.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Kevin O'Connell's done it with different players, but Shanahan specifically with Mack Jones, and he started the game pretty shaky. And when you read some of those articles about post-game and Trent Williams going up to talk to him and getting him to relax a little bit, and then he just looked so comfortable. And you can really appreciate when a coach can handle that,
Starting point is 00:04:53 and that truly tells me if this coordinator is any good. That's like the ultimate way of determining if the coordinator's worth it. How many different quarterbacks have played for you? And what does it look like when your superstar is not playing for you? Andy Reed, for example, you know, Donovan McNabb, Jeff Garcia, Kevin Cobb, you name it. Patrick Mahomes, different styles, different attributes, but they're all going to have some level of success. Jimmy Garoppolo, Brock Purdy, now Mac Jones. So this is no different for Kyle Shannon. The thing that I'm almost more impressed with is how he's doing it with the O-line, the patchwork O line that they're having to use right now because they're banged up and they still
Starting point is 00:05:35 find a way to get the ball to the playmakers and get the quarterback to play at a high level. I know you've looked at Arizona. Ten teams in the league are 2 and 0, 10 or 0-2. We know that doesn't mean everything, but Arizona, Arizona to me has a lot of good players. I don't know if they have the depth, the consistent line play, they're 2 and 0, now they face the Niners. Do you buy Arizona's 2-0 start? Because the Rams started, Denver started Baltimore last year, started off slowly and made the playoffs. So 2-0 doesn't guarantee anything. It doesn't guarantee anything.
Starting point is 00:06:08 However, stealing these wins early on does set you up for success later on in the year. You're not chasing potentially another team and keeps you in pace for the divisional race. my my um the themes there really are i do think jonathan gannon's brought a strong culture to uh their team and it's a balanced offense with drew petzig and uh basically tyler murray's playing efficient football he's avoiding a lot of the negative plays uh it's it's making the timely throws and james connor his ability to run downhill run downhill fuels the play action that's that's what really gets his team going and then Kyler picking and choosing his spots to run. I mean, I know people make the joke about, you know, he's he, the way he runs,
Starting point is 00:06:55 he kind of looks like the toddler running around with the remote control. And nobody can catch him. Like, he just can't corral him. And so when he does that, the right way, gets down, doesn't get hits, and then decides to make throws as he extends plays and completes him. I mean, it's some of the best in the league. You can put them up there with Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson in those extended plays. scramble mode situations.
Starting point is 00:07:19 My only concern is the mounting injuries that's really going to test the depth and sustainability of this defense. Remember, Jonathan Gannon, he wants to confuse you with some of those looks in the back end and they're down a ton of players. Their defensive backs are depleted. So how exotic can you get with these coverages?
Starting point is 00:07:40 How much, when you get exotic with coverages, you better communicate. So it's going to be more of an emphasis on guys like Buda Baker to stabilize that unit in the back end. So, Nick Seriani always surprised me. I thought,
Starting point is 00:07:54 his first press conference, I'd call people in the league, and they're like, I don't know if he's quite ready to be a head coaching job, but he's really done a good job, and he works in that city with that culture. And I think,
Starting point is 00:08:04 by the way, I think it's also fair to say that people do get better at their jobs, not just quarterbacks, but coaches. Brian Schotenheimer, I was told by people I trust. He hadn't interviewed for a head job forever.
Starting point is 00:08:15 He was kind of an old school. offensive guy. And then I've watched them the first two weeks. Dack looks great. Clock management's good. Not a lot of penalties. They're getting the ball. I mean, they've created run lanes. I mean, I got to be honest. I'm surprised. I thought this team could be a bit of a mess. I think they've overachieved offensively. You've watched them. You know Schottenheimer. Do you not? Yeah. Well, he was my coordinator for my first three years in the NFL. And the year before I got there, So 2008, he was the coordinator for Brett Favre. They acquired Brett Favre.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Well, Schottenheimer was a disciple of the, you know, Zampi Z system and North Turner system. So that was all numbers. You basically used three numbers to tell the X, the Y, and the Z receivers where to go. And then you'll add a tag for your slot receiver on what his route is. Well, Brett Fav, that didn't jive with him. He was a words guy. He was an old school West Coast guy. And so there was a clash there.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Well, Shadi adapted the whole system, came up with code words that Brett Farrb used. So when I get there, he basically asked me, all right, what do you want to do? Because the coaches, the other players on the team, we might know the system that we ran last year. But just because we can talk about it, if the quarterback can't talk about it, we're all getting fired anyway. So what hits your brain? And I know for a fact the last few years working with McCarthy and DAC, keeping some of those core principles, inserting some of the stuff that he's used throughout his storied and, you know, long career in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:09:53 He's been a coach for over 20 years, just never a head coach. He's got the pedigree of his dad and all the success that Marty Schadenheimer had in Kansas City. So he was primed, poised, and ready to go. And now he's got history with Dak. They're speaking the same language. And then the last point is Dak's health. When he's healthy, he's recognizing stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:13 He's communicating with his coordinator. He's executing at a high level. And it's obvious. It's palpable. I mean, look at the clip after the game of these guys in the locker room celebrating an absolute monster win in overtime against a divisional rival. And he said, on this team, we celebrate really cool stuff. And so he calls out each guy's accomplishments from the game.
Starting point is 00:10:37 So-and-so scored a touchdown. Yes. And the team is like fired up. Those kind of moments. That's why you do it, Colin. As a former player, that's what you missed. The bus rides, the plane rides, the locker rooms after the game, you can tell they have something special going in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Now it's just avoiding all the outside noise that's inherently a part of the Cowboys and continuing to build that culture that he started. Yeah, and it also should be noted when you're building a culture, you need buy-in, and they have looked really good. So pro athletes need buy-in. You can't just keep pounding the table. And so good for Brian Schottnimer. Okay, so you did the Seahawks Steelers game, which was a fascinating game, the second half,
Starting point is 00:11:19 I mean, between the snafu on special teams and Seattle's defense. So I want to start with Pittsburgh, because I had said coming into the season, they haven't been able to create cohesion in their run game for seven years. And Aaron just came from the Jets who didn't run well, and now he's going to the Steelers, and I said, it's going to look like a better version of the Jets, a 41-year-old quarterback who doesn't want to, a run around without a run game. That is a big ask. So let's take, give us some of your video.
Starting point is 00:11:49 You bring, you bring tape. What did you see from Aaron, good player, bad play that you liked or didn't? Well, listen, I think Aaron's going to get to the answer a little more quickly than a lot of players playing because of his history in this league, because of all the reps that have mounted up over time. I do think Arthur Smith and him have put together something special. I think they're still trying to figure out how to use D.K. Metcalf, Calvin Austin, you know, some of their tight ends, Friermuth, Johnny Smith, trying to figure out exactly how these pieces fit into their offense and get them in successful positions, essentially. But Aaron's done plenty to win these first two games. They happened to lose this most recent one, and everything started to go
Starting point is 00:12:35 downhill after this interception. So we're going to start rolling the clip here in a second, but just keep in mind, he had just tied Brett Favre for number four all time in passing touchdowns before this. This was to surpass Brett Favre. And this is an elite play by Aaron Rogers and a mishap by Calvin Austin. So they're using a formation out to the right that they used earlier in the game. And now Rogers is signaling. So he's kind of like counter punching off of a jab earlier that he threw a touchdown to D.K. Metcalfe on. Now we saw this Chris Jones, Kansas City Chiefs, chargers week one. If that defensive end wraps inside and leaves the outside lane open, this is what you're talking about, a defensive rush that has to be in sync. So Boyd Maffa
Starting point is 00:13:19 likes to go inside. Jaron Reed says, hey, I got to cover the outside. Aaron Rogers, reading to the right, nothing's there. Look how fast he processes, realize the defensive end is inside and gets outside. The guy's 41 years old. He just had Achilles surgery two years ago. And he's He's about to throw one of the best throws I saw all weekend and break the record to be number four all time and passing touchdowns to Fryermouth. That's Fryermouth's position, the back pylon right there. He's running a route that keeps him there. Red zone, low red zone scramble rules facing. I need somebody at the back pylon.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I need somebody at the front pylon. Aaron Rogers is throwing this thing to a spot where only his guy can get it. These rules and the integrity of these rules are paramount. Calvin Austin, I said it on air, brings ants to the picnic. You can't go interfere with that lane. Your position is the front pylon. If he doesn't mess with that football, that's a touchdown in this game. We're singing a very different tune about the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Rogers mentioned it in his press conference after the game. It's exactly the way we broke it down, not just in this clip, but in the game live. And those kind of mistakes. We're talking that kind of margin of error. We're talking three to six yards of difference in positioning and spacing, and it's a completely different ballgame. Incredible play by Aaron, complete blunder by Calvin Austin. He's got to get better.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And remember his low red zone, scramble rules, integrity. Now, moving on to Sam Darnold, Clint Kubiak, his coordinator, I just thought he really put him in great positions this weekend. And he's doing some old school kind of West Coast, Shanahan, Kubiak, kind of stuff. He's going under center, five-step plant, and ripping the ball down the field. You just don't see that anymore,
Starting point is 00:15:12 especially near the goal line. So go ahead and roll the clip, and I want you to watch Sam's eyes integrity, his eye integrity, how quick that ball pops out of his hand on a five-step drop plant. You just don't see it anymore. This is like a throwback 20 years ago. You saw Elway do that, Marino do that.
Starting point is 00:15:29 But here's the concept, basically up top, and Jigba's on that post. And that's really your alert. Down here at the bottom, the three receivers, that's a concept that you'll get to if the alert is not open. And when you realize that alert isn't open, and you see Patrick Queen, the middle linebacker number six, adjusting to your formation and shaded to the right, you've got to hold your eyes for those first five steps and move him slightly to the left to create a window to throw this ball to Barner their tight ends, second year man out of Michigan.
Starting point is 00:16:01 So watch the steps. one, two, three, four, five, balls out. I mean, come on, Colin, that's like, that's like the old combine drills. That's, you know, old school Lway. Like, you just don't see players do that anymore. And I love that Clint Cobiac's still employing those things. I love Sam's eyes on that play. It was, it was a real nostalgic moment and a key moment for the Seahawks to get a victory. By the way, before we wrap it up, Justin Herbert, a head coach often in the NFL can help with personnel. Offensive coaches tend to be better at developing run games and offensive lines.
Starting point is 00:16:45 If you look to the last six or seven years, the better offensive lines in the NFL at the end of the year are often offensive coaches. Harbaugh. I'm watching Justin Herbert's first 19 games with Harbaugh, and I go back to his last 20 games with Staley. and I don't know exactly what it is, but, I mean, stylistically, he looks the same. He's still big, smart, moves well. But he has cleaned up something. Harbaugh's cleaned up something.
Starting point is 00:17:14 He just doesn't turn it over. And is that eliminating plays from a playbook? I mean, because the receiving course still feels a guy short. How do you, what is Harbaugh doing here, in your opinion? It just feels like I'm getting just. a cleaner, tighter, Justin Herbert. Still big, still moves, still big arm, still accurate, but it's different.
Starting point is 00:17:40 What do you think it is? I think he's starting to reach that point in his career where his structure, the protocols in place, the preparation and understanding the reeds are really starting to fall in line. That Rolodex of coverages that you see, scene versus specific plays are just coming up to the forefront of his mind. And he's also understanding this is where this is where quarterbacks really take,
Starting point is 00:18:10 uh, the next step in their maturation process. We're not just running plays on the field ever. In practice, you're running a bunch of plays, but you're practicing specific situations. And when the call comes in the headset, do I know why the play caller gave me that play? What's the play caller's purpose? If you can answer that clearly and succinctly, as soon as the play call comes in, you have an excellent chance to be successful in that play. And you can tell it's happening. The one thing I will say, you know, I understand the contrast to Staley versus Harbaugh, defensive guy to offensive guy.
Starting point is 00:18:47 But don't forget, I mean, they were up 28-0 in a playoff game in Jacksonville and absolutely blew it. And that wasn't all Justin Herbert, right? I mean, Joey Bosa got a penalty for slamming his helmet down. Like, you know, come on. So I think things change there if you win that playoff game. But I think part of this is just timing-wise with Herbert. He still has the athleticism. He's like, the prime of your career, to me, you still have the athleticism,
Starting point is 00:19:16 but now you have the knowledge. Now you have the experience. And now you can get to the answer faster than a lot of other players because you're an elite processor. And so it's all coming together for Justin Herbert. Maybe it's the new girlfriend. Maybe it's the new offensive system. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:33 But whatever it is, it's working, and it's awesome to see. Yeah, it really is. One of the really nice guys. Mark, that was great. Absolutely primo stuff today. And enjoy Cardinals at the Niners. That's going to be a good. That game is through the years.
Starting point is 00:19:46 They've given the Niners a lot of trouble. They've matched up well. So that's going to be a great watch on Fox. As always, Mark Sanchez delivers. Jay Mack. your Arizona Cardinals, you picked them as your shocking team in the NFL, and I got to be honest with you. I should have had them last weekend.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I think I like the Niners. Let me just remind you in that opener against the Saints, Joanne Johnson catches a touchdown pass to tie it, but the ball gets dislodged. So they didn't cover against the Panthers, and they barely covered against the Saints. Those are like bottom five teams in the league. So Arizona needs to close the door.
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Starting point is 00:24:59 But also, you know, your guy, Jalen Hertz. I'm calling him your guy because of that segment earlier. But O.C. Kevin Patelo, Patulo, sorry, says the situation dictates his play calling. When you look at when we game plan and stuff like that, that's obviously always the first thing we do is how we want to push the ball down the field. And as a staff, we work really hard on the plan, especially these next couple days to put that on there.
Starting point is 00:25:24 and that's a part of it. And sometimes, you know, in game, it just doesn't happen. It's definitely something we want to do. It's not something we're avoiding. So I know going forward, you know, we have the plan in place. And if it comes up, it'll definitely happen. Yeah. Zero passing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Now, I have Jalen Hertz and fantasy. I'm a big Hertz guy. You know I have in top five. I think you're inching closer to putting him at number five. I will say this. This Ram's secondary is going to be without Witherspoon. who's very good. And, you know, I know Kobe, is it Kobe, yeah, Kobe Durant has played well early.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Safeties, I think there's an opportunity for Hertz to get some big plays down the field. It is a great matchup, certainly the number one game of the weekend. Yeah, I mean, the Rams usually can avoid trouble in the back end because they create such a great pass rush. So they don't need to be. It was a surprise that they didn't take a tackle or a corner in this draft. A lot of people were surprised they took another running back and another outside linebacker. So they feel like they're a corner shy. And it feels like they have to go heavy into a quarterback and a tackle next year, offensive tackle.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But I think their pass rush gets them out of concern most of the time. I mean, Cam Ward again. Just they don't allow a running game. There's a lot of third and longs. So I think this is the game of the weekend. I think it's a really good game. The Rams may have found their Zach Bonn. Remember how Zach Bonn was like a kind of a nobody with the Saints and now he's a
Starting point is 00:26:58 old pro? Landman, there you go. You know, obviously the great show. Out of Atlanta. Yeah. So this is a guy who was undrafted and he looks like he has the chops. You know, sometimes, Colin, it's the undrafted guys, the guys drafted late who have that, they're hungry.
Starting point is 00:27:15 They have that desire to rise up and be a star. And Landman, he's making plays everywhere. He's a ball hawk, similar to Zach Bonn. I like him a lot. And he may be the guy in charge with, hey, you got to stick with Sequin Barclay out of the backfield. That's a tall order. Next up, Colin, let's go to Jaden Daniels. Washington.
Starting point is 00:27:34 I got my buddies in D.C. They are monitoring this closely. Jaden Daniels, this knee injury. They're calling it a sprained knee. Dan Quinn said Daniels will definitely not practice today. There is the potential, potential for him to practice Friday. Now, I'm on record. I would not force him back against the Raiders' non-divisional matchup.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I would save him for next week. I believe they have the Falcons next week at a big one. Marcus Marriota is the backup. What do you do here if you're Dan Quinn? Well, I mean, I think this is with young athletes, it's always a game-time decision. It's amazing with a good night's sleep, 48 hours. I mean, right now it's Wednesday. He could feel, you know, I mean, by Saturday night, he's going to bed.
Starting point is 00:28:16 He's like, I feel great. So you also have dreams. great training staff. So my take is you just have to wait. I would always rather play him. I think playing hurt is almost just a reality of the NFL for a quarterback. You're always playing dinged up by week three and week four. But to your point is it's not one of the bigger games on their schedule. I do think, though, they've had extra time to prepare because they played on Thursday against Green Bay. And if you have an extra time advantage, use it. I mean, in this division, and the NFC.
Starting point is 00:28:47 The NFC this year, I'd argue talked about him is better than the AFC. You have extra prep time. Take advantage of it and win the game. I'd probably play him. They also lost Echler to an Achilles. His season's over. So Washington could be down.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Is Echler their starter? What would you call them? The third down back. You know, I know they got Crosky Merritt. But if you're down QB1 and running back one or two, whatever, like that, I don't know that Washington's a layup this weekend against the Raiders. have no action on this game. Do you have a lean or you're going to wait for the quarterback
Starting point is 00:29:19 certainty? Yeah, I don't. It's like the COVID year. You have to wait until Sunday morning to see who's playing. I'd stay away from it. Yeah. Final story, Colin, is to Sammy D. Sam Darnold. Not off to an amazing start statistically, but they did get the win over the Steelers in Pittsburgh. Coming off their victory, Brock Heward broke down what made Darnold so successful against Pittsburgh. Sam Darnold, I think, knows personnel as much as anything else. Sam can throw it to the number. Sam can throw it outside as well. Sam's got plenty of horsepower.
Starting point is 00:29:51 You can get those giving hitches. You can get those go routes on the perimeter. You can certainly take advantage of things on the outside. But where's the strength of Sam's game? Where's the strength of your personnel right now? Cooper Cup is amazing. Amazing at feeling space between the hashes. JSN, talked about his body control,
Starting point is 00:30:08 Mike McDonald yesterday in those areas and his short area quickness. off the charts. Yeah, I like Seattle in this, but I think Seattle is a ball knocked loose in the red zone away from being 2 and O and a heavy favorite in week three. So I had Seattle making the playoffs as a wildcard team. I like him in this spot. I think the defense is really fast. I think they're really alert.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I thought they totally dominated the second half against Pittsburgh. I like the coach. So, I mean, you know, let's not forget, Kevin O'Connell knows quarter. He tried to resign Donald. Sam wanted to be the starter, well-paid, and have nobody behind him to threaten him. Whereas J.J. McCarthy, if Donald stayed, was, you know, they drafted him. They gave up two picks in the first round. So, I mean, I think you look at that now.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I think Seattle, John Snyder, GM, for the, it's almost like Baker to Tampa. For the price tag, they got a, you know, Tampa got an A quarterback. for a B price. Seattle got a B plus quarterback for a C plus B minus price. So there is value. If you don't have a superstar quarterback, what's the number?
Starting point is 00:31:24 Because you can surround it with more good players. So I think Tampa and Seattle got breaks. They've got real value with the best position, most important position in the sport. I just want to ask about this home field mystique in Seattle. So I'm looking at the numbers here. Two and seven last season at home.
Starting point is 00:31:41 and against the spread as a favorite, one, four, and one. Colin, I, is Lumenfield that much, is it still difficult to play in? We know Legion of Boom, it was very tough. They were unstoppable. Don't team traveling 3,000 miles with a fairly untested quarterback against a hyper-aggressive, young, fast defense. I think that's a spot for Seattle. Dome team cross-country.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I mean, I think Spencer Rattler actually has talent. I mean, I think maybe New Orleans found him. I mean, he always had a good arm. He always moved. Like, he's talented. But my take is this is not a great spot. For the Saints. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:36:16 He's lightened up noticeably the last couple years, just in the last year and a half, two years with the Chargers. Here's some of Jim's finer moments. It feels like New Year's Day. It feels like being born. It was like coming out of the womb, you know. It's like you're in there. It's comfortable and safe.
Starting point is 00:36:35 and now you're out, you're born, lights are on, you know, it's bright. I said myself, it's not just another day, it's two day. He's the opposite of a house plant. I mean, he is field corn, you know. And just like field corn, it doesn't need to be talked to. Like Moses, I'm going to die leaning on my staff. Mr. Miao, you would say karate yes, karate no. you know, safe.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Down the middle, squashed. I think you've also heard me say, I mean, there's not one gene in his body. I wouldn't like immediately trade, you know. Hogregato. Justin Patrick Herbert. I also think when you have so much success, you win a natty at Michigan, and then you, you know, you've gotten to a Super Bowl, and then you take a job where you're familiar with the state,
Starting point is 00:37:35 and you get a great quarterback. that makes it, it's so hard for, like Ben Johnson, whether it works or not, Ben Johnson's like, I'm going to go to Chicago because the quarterback looks pretty good. Like, that's a real thing in this league. It is, you know, if you don't have, I mean, that's why Urban took the Jacksonville job. I mean, you look at it from the outside, you're like, okay, Trevor Lawrence, you know, Matt, the only time a coach has taken a job, maybe in the last 10 years where you're like, oh, that's going to work,
Starting point is 00:38:04 was Matt Lefleur getting Aaron Rogers, on the tail end of his prime, and Harbaugh getting Herbert. Like those were the two, you were like, that's going to work, and it's going to work your one. Like, that's going to work. Most of the time, you've got a weird owner, you know, you've got a billionaire who's impulsive, or you don't have a roster, you know, and even if everything's right, this is such a week-to-week league. But Matt LaFleur with Aaron, Harbaugh to Herbert, those work, and those work instantly.
Starting point is 00:38:34 But, I mean, as good as Kyle Shanahan is, he has a losing record of Christian McCaffrey doesn't play. Like, it is so hard in this league to win games. And Harbaugh just does it fast. And, you know, he's just a very, you know, it's not just a personnel thing. Because the Chargers defense was last in the league, it's first, and they lost a Bosa. You know, it's still Derwin James and Khalil Mack, and it's a couple young fifth round corners. and it's just, you know, it's, it's, they lost a Bosa and got better. That doesn't generally happen.
Starting point is 00:39:09 So it all works. I asked Joel Clatt earlier about how Harbaugh evolved at Michigan. After the COVID year, they struggle. He comes back on, remember that restructured deal at Michigan? And he comes back. And in 2021, he came out and like sat for a production meeting with us for 40 minutes. And I was like, what is happening? What Jim did post-COVID wasn't about football.
Starting point is 00:39:37 It was about people. And he became much more of a people person, even with all of his corks. But what never left him was the foundational things that he believed in from a football perspective. I dealt with two very different Jim Harbaugh's and the one that's coaching right now with the Chargers, I think we'll win a Super Bowl. Yeah, it just, he kind of lightened up. A lot of people, you know, they get older, they have some success. You know, you censure mortality. You're on the back nine of life and you start enjoying it, you know?
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